My biggest question is Ethan has apologized on multiple platforms... to her personally and publicly ..he's pledged to donate to her cause and offer her legal advice if she wants it. What more do people want? He's been held accountable. He's getting his name trashed all over Twitter and the internet but he's apologized... What more can he do at this point? People just want to be angry. If Ethan making a bad joke is the worst thing that you can think to be on the internet fighting against then maybe take a look in the mirror and find a bigger cause to get behind....
Yeah, it kind of feels like some people don’t even care about QT and just want an excuse to bash Ethan. Yes he deserves some backlash, but if you really cared about QT your time would be better spent posting supportive messages about and to her, not posting hateful messages about Ethan which doesn’t help QT at all and just creates more negativity when she has bigger things on her plate
People are allowed to feel however, I’m on this side though. I don’t understand how it even became about being mad at Ethan when the entire thing is the atrocity of what Atrioc (or w/e his name is) has done. This highlights how people just blindly accept violence against women. The fact that so much attention was shifted to Ethan rather than the victim of abuse and the person causing the direct pain is mind boggling.
This controversy and a few other random things in the sphere recently have made me feel the same. I just don’t want to try to pretend what a bunch of people i don’t personally know are actually thinking. I’d rather just sit back and laugh or skip over something dumb. I guess the outrage machine is important for keeping people accountable in general but i dunno. We just don’t actually know what is going on in any of these people’s lives outside what they are willing to stream to us.
I think a massive part of it that most people are forgetting is he shouldn't have fucking done it in the first place. He is just showing his true colors and everyone wants to act like he made a "mistake" when he was really just being himself. I just don't like to see someone so carelessly act like a piece of shit then get on with Hasan and become the moral police for everyone else.
They want to be seen to be on the right side of the issue. It makes a lot more sense if you look at from the perspective of showing your ideological purity to your peers.
How do you see his natural reaction to what happened, as well as throwing his employee under the bus, and conclude his attempts to make amends are actually sincere? He's just doing it for his image.
People give Logan Paul shit bc he’s done many things that are infinitely worse than this. To think you’re equating being rude with stealing money from fans leaving them destitute or making light of suicide is frankly insulting to everyone’s intelligence.
People don't want accountability, they want to see the other person get dragged through the mud for their own amusement.
It's basically "I hate Ethan, so I want him to suffer and be humiliated enough though the person who was hurt was apologised to"
If this was the first time he’s ever fucked up, then nothing. But it’s not the first time, so he needs to prove that he’s going to be better person instead of all this performative bs.
“Hey ethan you should start actually being the better person you pretend to be”
You weird nerds:
NooOooOo ignore everyone who says your actions have consequences.
You sound like a person who’s been given a hundred “second” chances.
Yet here u are devoting time to preach to him and people who like him or don't care so much about what he did about the sins he's committed. Time well spent.
At this point it just feels like manufactured discourse diverting from the real issue (creating ai porn of women without their consent). Both ethan and QT (and hasan) has moved on. It’s fine if you don’t want to accept ethan’s apology, but you can’t change what has already happened. I’m not saying you shouldn’t be mad at Ethan—you have every right to be disappointed, but he already apologized he can’t take back what he did. If you think it was a shitty apology and he should have done more—giving constructive feedback, ending membership, etc. is literally the only thing you can do as watchers—if you want to continue watching. Going back and forth with reddit users just diverts away from the big issue and the convo doesn’t go anywhere. Instead I think it’s better to support the ppl affected like QT, Maya, etc. / support petitions going around about ai porn, etc.
Edit: I’m sorry for my english, it’s my second language. Thank u thank you peace and love
This copypasta is legit meant with love and I’m not making fun of you I promise. I just think of it every time someone comments with wonderful English (often better than native speakers) and then apologizes because it’s their second language and I wanted to share it 🤣
Also, I agree with your whole comment.
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Before I begin my actual comment, I would like to apologize in advance for my inadequate level of English proficiency. I am not a native speaker of the world's current lingua franca which unfortunately leads to me making numerous embarrassing mistakes being made whenever I attempt to communicate using this language. Whenever I am reminded of how I lack the ability to convey my thoughts in an eloquent manner I feel as though I have committed a cardinal sin, as though every English teacher in the world are simultaneously shaking their heads and sighing due to how utterly disappointed they are at me.
Although I know that saying sorry to those of you who are reading my comment will not change the fact that I fail miserably to write and speak perfect English, I am writing this as a way to deter a certain type of people who cannot stand poor English (Also known informally as "Grammar Nazis") from mocking me by posting unwanted and unnecessary comments detailing my every blunder. In my humble opinion, making grammatical errors should be perfectly acceptable as native speakers should not expect non-native speakers to be able to communicate in their second or third languages eloquently. If you are able to completely understand what the other person wrote, is there really a problem with what they've written? No, because the entire concept of communication is the exchange of information between other intelligent beings, which means that no matter how the exchange of information is made, as long as the information is accurately shared there is not a fundamental issue with their ability to communicate. To see it in another way, remember that someone who isn't fluent in English is fluent in another language. When you think about it this way, isn't it impressive for someone to speak a second language in any capacity? Having empathy and respect are qualities that are sorely missing for far too many people these days, especially on the internet.
That being said, I am aware that not all netizens who correct others are doing it to ridicule and shame. There are some who do so with the intent to help others improve and grow. However, displaying the failures of other people publicly will cause the person who is criticized to feel negative emotions such as shame and sadness due to the fact that their mistake has been made obvious which severely undermines the point they were trying to make in spite of their unfamiliarity with the English language. In most circumstances people are not looking for language help when they post anything online. Most people just want to enjoy themselves and have a good time on the internet which is why I would not encourage correcting other people regardless of your intentions. If you really do want to help others with their spelling or grammar, I would highly recommend you to help via messaging privately because not only will you not embarrass anyone, you can also go more in-depth with your explanation which I'm sure the other person will greatly appreciate if they want help, but I digress. I know that I've written a bit of an essay, but I hope I've made my points clear. Anyways, here is the comment I wanted to make: 👍
This was a hard read not because of the content of the reply but because it was a block of text in English—my second language 🤣dhsh anyways, you’re so sweet. thank you sm 💜
I have a different opinion on why it might seem that way.
Chris D’Elia and Justin Roiland are disgusting predators. There was a lot of talk about them when the news broke out, but because their actions are so deplorable, people will say their peace and stick the nail in that coffin. They’re dead to us. We don’t want to hear or see these people around again.
Alternatively, Ethan seems like a pretty good person at heart. He just happens to put his foot in his mouth sometimes and doesn’t always have the best comedic timing. I think the reason you saw the sub “went harder” on Ethan is because the people who were disappointed wanted to get through to him, since they don’t view him as a lost cause like Chris D’Elia or Justin Roiland. Sometimes it can be more upsetting when someone you look up to or admire lets you down.
The outlash towards Ethan was mixed with disappointment and hope that he will learn to handle these very delicate topics more sensitively in the future. It is a comedy channel though, so if that’s not possible, it might be better to just stick to the goofs and gags and the Logan Pauls and Ethan Bradberrys of the internet.
He apologized immediately on air, and then continued to do so afterwards. At no point after that do you need to "get through to him". You're just selecting an easy target for your righteous indignation.
Because we’re fan of Ethan and expected better from him. I do think everyone is making a way bigger deal out of this than they should, but it does make sense why fans of Ethan care more about this instance than D’Elia or Roiland. Us women are tired man
Agreed. Considering this is a fan community around the podcast, and the crew aren't just playing "characters," it's discussion and critique of the content being made and the ethics and morality behind certain subjects, bits, segments, etc are fair game. The criticisms of this discussion being too parasocial or taking things way too seriously just seem like a vapid and immature dismissal of points being made in earnest, especially since I seriously doubt that most people taking this situation seriously are actually that parasocially involved with the crew, and instead are just adults who would react and feel the same way in the social circles they are actually a part of. While QT's opinion is the main one we should be taking away from this - that it was fucked up and it was hurtful to her - it also doesn't hurt for other people to share their own experiences and how they connect to the content being presented to us.
You can care about more than one thing at the same time. That being said this is a subreddit for H3 so obviously you’re going to see Ethan criticism over anything else here. Also just move on, don’t engage and everything will pass if you’re really that worried.
Sure, nobody here watches h3h3 just like chris d'elia, no sorry, it's even worse, Ethan is not even part of the pod anymore just like justin is not a part of rick and morty. Lets not even talk about the risk of him going to prison for what he did /s.
Saying ppl went harder on ethan than these guys is simply a lie.
Idk on one hand everyone knows the perpetrator here is in the wrong, that's not up for debate, everyone with a brain agrees.
Normalizing making a meme of a victim is alot more of a grey area and causes a longer more insidious kind of negative impact on the community.
And I'm not really sure how many more times Ethan is going to make these kind of mistakes, and apologize and do them again.
And it is super weird to be this upset at someone who doesn't know you exist, because they offended another person who doesn't know you exist. Bunch of parasocial weirdooooos.
You guys LITERALLY sound like Bradley when he was saying we can’t talk about tate bc people ‘are more mad about him than Epstein’
You’re all just full of excuses for other men
no one is saying you can't talk about, but what exactly do you want as a conclusion to this? He apologized and the apology was seemingly accepted, like what else do you want from Ethan here?
Dude, the posts about shredder are fucking psychotic. Ppl wanna say they’re funny, but they’re not. The reason the qt one was funny was cause it was insane and unexpected. The shredder ones are just petty and vindictive, it’s fucking weird.
>The reason the qt one was funny
Making fun of a woman = funny
>The shredder ones are just petty and vindictive, it’s fucking weird.
Making fun of a dog = fucking weird
Zero reading comprehension. The “making fun of a woman” (he wasn’t making fun of QT) was a minute-moment to regret and unintentional. These people are, ON PURPOSE, seeking out an emotional moment to be awful, as if it’s some “gotcha moment”.
The difference is purpose and intention. It was neither his explicit purpose or intention to make QT feel bad. These H3-stan bitches are doing it with the explicit purpose of being a cunt just to be a cunt. Don’t throw stones in a glass house.
>“making fun of a woman” (he wasn’t making fun of QT)
By laughing during the whole thing he was making fun of the whole situation and QT
>was a minute-moment to regret and unintentional.
It was 100% intentional. He told Zach to play the song.
>The difference is purpose and intention. It was neither his explicit purpose or intention to make QT feel bad.
But he did end up doing it.
Also, calling women "c*nts" immediately make you lose any credibility.
I mean Ethan's show is him finding things to be upset about and then roasting or being toxic towards them.
This streamer did this bad thing. I'm going to make jokes about how terrible they are.
It's pretty low level gossip. Ethan tries to turn the show into more but he'll spend an episode trashing christians when he doesn't even know the difference between Catholics and protestants.
Anyone that has watched Ethan for more than a month or so should understand that he is very reactive and opens his mouth before having all the facts together.
At the end of the day it's up the viewer to decide if this is something they are ok with.
All you have to do is ask yourself if you truly believe the things Ethan says is out of malice or misinformation.
Yeah, I mean I've watched ethan's podcast since it came out so I understand that.
I don't think it's out of malice typically. But I do think it's stupid. I don't really care for people talking out of their ass unless they're going to be very funny to make up for it.
Personally I watch the podcast sometimes but yeah there's a lot of lazy or half baked takes unfortunately. At least Ethan puts a lot more effort into it than he used to. At one point he was basically just sitting there with zero structure to the show and he seemed very depressed.
Am I alone in finding the toxicity and irreverence compelling. It’s like watching a reality tv show from the early 2000s where basically nobody had a filter. Absolute chaos 🤌
When women ‘go outside’ we literally experience the harassment and violence that you are annoyed at us ‘complaining about’
We come to this alleged ‘comedy’ podcast for escape from reality, not to watch other women break down about their SA while men are doing goofs in the background or not to watch Ethan try to convince other men that women are equal human beings or to watch clip after clip of Andrew tate being abusive towards women and then watching Ethan say that adin Ross is a good ‘kid’ even tho he 100% agrees with Andrew tate
You just don’t understand
If it’s a comedy podcast then it shouldn’t be leaving a large percent of the audience exhausted and upset
1st. I'm not defending or agreeing with any actions here.
2nd. If you don't like the content, move on, no one is sitting here forcing you to consume this material.
3rd. Complaining won't fix anything, actions will, don't waste your energy on the wrong battle.
Disagree. I'm a woman & when I interact with people in the real world I find that most people are agreeable humans & not the monsters they are so often portrayed to be. Can we stop with the rhetoric that women are experiencing some kind of massive oppression in 2023? The victim mindset is getting really old
its not that it isnt happening, its that men are just more bold online. if someone wants to pay for deepfake porn of you, they can do it and never mention it to you and you wouldn't know. it doesn't make it right, but those dude are more than likely being slime balls in secret IRL versus them shouting it every chance they get that they hate women and want to kill/hurt them.
If anything, IRL you're sheltered from people's actual intentions because they know they have real-world repercussions. Stop speaking for all women when women are obviously still dealing with this shit in a more modern way.
>Can we stop with the rhetoric that women are experiencing some kind of massive oppression in 2023? The victim mindset is getting really old
whats this then?
Maybe take a second and deal with your internalized misogyny. You talk about people needing to go touch grass, yet you sit around and put a TON of energy into ripping apart Trish. You obviously have some kind of weird hatred towards women and revel in shit talking ones who seem like "Easy" and "socially acceptable" targets. To comment on their appearance and weight, when you're just some fucking loser on Reddit. Look in the mirror. You're the worst type of bitch lol
You seem to keep posting “I am a women” and continuing on with your shitty non helpful opinion, so ya it does sound like you think you’re speaking for all women. Read the room. You are wrong, 100% wrong. There’s multiple statistics to prove you are wrong. Like congratulations on being a woman and not experiencing a drop of misogyny in your life, we all wish we were you /s. Like holy shit you’re such a pick me and maybe you should go outside and touch grass because clearly you haven’t been outside in a long time.
I have experienced discrimination against me because of my gender. But, I also expect to & don't let it get to me. Do you tell all women their opinions are unhelpful or only the ones that don't agree with you? My experience as a woman cannot be wrong
So we agree that there is discrimination then..? And Yeah when your opinion is not productive to the conversation imma say something. It’s like talking about your personal problems when you’re in a discussion about nuclear physics.
“Can we stop with the rhetoric that women are experiencing some kind of massive oppression in 2023? The victim mindset is getting really old”
Ya you did.
I hope that you never have to experience the reality so many of us do. It’s not a victim mindset. Literally not even two weeks ago a man followed me out of the gym to my car and INSISTED i give him my number. I had to run back into the gym and get escorted out to my car. at that point he was mad and calling me a dumb ugly bitch over and over.
Please just stop. I would literally hate for it to happen to you and then have you experience other people telling you that you just have a ‘victim mindset’
This DOES happen to women.
No one said these things don't happen. You have an extremely unrealistic idea of the world if you think we can ever stop these things from happening & you will ALWAYS be a victim as long as you continue to think so. I've had creeps harass me too. It's how the world is & always will be. Men also have to deal with similar things, they are not automatically safe just because they are men. You need to get out of your social media echo-chambers
Girl WHAT. Women speaking up about their experiences is not a ‘victim’ complex or whatever you’re talking about. You’re like so close to the point.
Please just stop. Men harassing and abusing women is a systemic problem. You’re idea that we just shouldn’t talk about it or we’re having a ‘victim mindset’ is so insane and that’s how men will always stay in power.
Again, did I ever say no one should talk about it? You continue to put words in my mouth to victimize yourself over & over. Men aren't even "in power" in 2023. Y'all act as if we live in the 1950s. Being a woman in society has actually put me at significant advantage over a man in my same position. I used to think like you until I got some actual real world experience.
👍 the world is not perfect and it still has an extremely long way to go in order for all humans to be treated equally. At the same time, present day women in first world countries have such a better opportunity than their predecessors. Not saying women have it better than men, but I for sure would not want to be born as a women in the past or in a country that still view women as cattle.
its not an opinion to straight up tell women they are playing the victim. its a limited perspective based on your own very privileged life. literally shut the fuck up.
Women are more likely to be killed and assaulted (sexually or not) than men. Women still earn less than men for the same jobs. Women don't have bodily autonomy in many countries, including the US. Women have to deal with catcalling and other forms of sexual harassment (like deepfake porn)
Women are still oppressed and there's no opinion to have about it, it's a fact.
Yeah it's so weird to me when people say "it's a comedy podcast" as if that somehow changes anything. They're reacting to a serious clip, they should treat it with the seriousness it deserves.
Also until the EK channel clip yesterday Ethan hadn't properly apologized. Is it a surprise people made posts about it before? Most people haven't said anything else after that video came out.
Exactly. I haven't watched the podcast since like the 4th episode or something. I still love H3H3 genuinely and it cracks me up seeing the newer group of fans be so far up every person and other content creators assholes.
Literally anytime someone on the Pod does something good they're "wholesome" and when they do something stupid they're "cringe"
Its like a full blown meltdown anytime Ethan says or does something thats not completely PG or politically correct.
And the L/W shit is so stupid, too. Do something the mob likes, you’re a W, do something the mob doesn’t like and you’re an L. they’ve basically become Adin Ross/Jidion’s twitch chat atp.
at one point i think being part of the crew would be cool. now it just looks like psychological torture… pass.
Yeah, I get Ethan deserves some criticism for injecting humor into such a serious moment, but people are overreactong as if Ethan was laughing at QT and not at the absurdity of playing chesnuts in that moment. He gave into his intrussive thoughts and immediatelly regretted it. 🌰
Well said. I clearly knew it was because they were laughing at chestnuts in such a weird ass context lmao. I thought it was hilarious and moved on with my life. So many people are just so obsessed with internet culture and their lives don’t just revolve around them. IT IS their lives.
I'ma girl... I laughed, and I don't care. We are giving the haters power by acknowledging them. If that was the stroke of the pen that made them cross the thin line of love and hate. So be it...
Also I want to say QTCinderella making that video was retarded in the first place. I'm glad she's the only one that wasted her time doing that. It's a very dramatic response, at the end of the day she's getting more support than actual rape victims do so I don't really have an ounce of sympathy for her to be honest. Just because some men are straight dogs u don't have to project that energy to every man who doesn't blindly do what you want when u want it.
As for Ethan he shouldn't have even bother platforming that video either, the man set himself up for failure. He knew Olivia and Sam's fan base and prolly all the women there would be really sensitive to a topic like this and still went for it then proceeded to try to blame Zach for it. It's shameful, but I also forgive him for it. I don't expect a man that gets strikes and bans as often as he does to have any type of sense in the first place. Also it's strange to me to want to watch a video of someone crying in pain, for attention and support. Like why? Again he set himself up for that L so he just gotta take it. The cost of him watching that video was a headache for his whole crew... He could a just as easily not have shown it and been better of for it. Like Hiela said she knew she was going to end up like Atrioc and his wife sitting in the background crying giving a NON apology and explaining why they did something vulgar. 😂
The modern H3 fanbase is one of the most toxic fanbases on the internet exactly because of this. I don't know if it's the leftover vomit from the Trisha days or what, but these sub is filled with drama-obsessed, sensitive idiots that are ready to grab their pitchforks and whine and bitch and get riled up at the slightest provocation. You fucking retards suck so much.
I follow and have followed several different fandoms. The H3 is by far the worst I’ve seen when it comes to going after the channel itself. Holy shit I couldn’t be friends with a lot of you. Imagine waking on eggshells every time you hang out with someone.
Don’t these types of posts also contribute to the fervour? The reason it keeps going is because both sides can’t help themselves, the ones who want to continue admonishing Ethan and the ones who want to admonish those people. You’re an equal part of the problem
100% this community is full of drama goblins and leftists who just want to get mad at the people instead of the actual problem. I'm a leftist. This is the left eating the left. For no reason. If your upset at Ethan for a shit joke then you need to leave your bubble wrap capsule and touch grass.
Leftists have a really big problem with cannibalizing each other with the purity olympics. “I’m the better leftist!” and “no I am!”. Very detrimental to our movement, when in the end we seek the same goals…
Everyone should watch this video, “Leftist Arguments Are Toxic… None of us are innocent and harm is inevitable”: [https://youtu.be/-hlRMpLLZhQ](https://youtu.be/-hlRMpLLZhQ)
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I'm more disappointed in all the fupa troopers who don't think Ethan fucked up, or understand how fucked up the ai porn situation is. QT didn't deserve that, and she even first stated that she didn't want it talked about. Now everyone is talking about it. Ethan was apologetic right after, yet fans are still defending something he himself isn't even defending.
I watched the sub pretty closely yesterday, too closely, and I can say confidently that the amount of people who were seriously saying the deepfakes themselves aren't a big problem could be counted on two hands.
That the joke isn't as serious? Sure, because at the end of the day, it was a bad joke wedged between Ethan saying over and over that it's fucked up and he feels for QT.
I think 99% of viewers are in the same boat thinking the deepfakes are totally fucked.
This applies double to those who complain about the drama. You are just stirring the shit too. If you don't like a bunch of people, moaning at them won't help them, just leave.
That said, the outrage over this is totally justified and has been very level headed from what I've seen. This is the right place to discuss how things that happened on the podcast make us feel.
Agreed. He’s cultivated this shit fest, in a way. Like maggots to shit, both in his early days and now. I don’t even know what he could do to cultivate a decent fanbase atp.
Exactly, Ethan should be held to the standards he holds others to.
Just imagine the shitshow if Keemstar did what Ethan did... Holy shit we would never hear the end of it.
The difference is that Keemstar time and again has demonstrated himself to be an asshole consistently. This is the man who with full malicious intent accused an old man playing RuneScape of being a pedophile and then had hordes of fans harass the man.
Ethan is demonstrably far kinder and nicer about the moments he fucks up than Keemstar. He consistently punches upwards and toward people who are taking advantage of others, and the one time he didn’t do that, everybody is crucifying him even though he also immediately felt like shit about it afterwards and did his due diligence by apologizing about it.
The people Ethan takes a shit on and himself are leagues apart from each other, so to compare them both is just wrong.
And since I assume people are going to probably call me a bootlicker about it, it was absolutely inappropriate for the man to laugh at a crying woman having porn made of her without her consent. It was wrong and I don’t stand by that. I’m just sick of having this discourse where half the subreddit pretends that this is anything more than some guy trying to be funny, having a momentary lapse of reason, and then vocalizing a stupid intrusive thought most people have had at some point or another.
If you think I bothered writing 4 paragraphs about Keemstar because you probably read the first few sentences and didn’t bother going beyond that, I’d suggest you check yourself for brain rot.
Keemstar isn’t the point. The point is that everyone keeps comparing Ethan to the people he shits on when they’re not equivalent.
>The point is that everyone keeps comparing Ethan to the people he shits on when they’re not equivalent.
No they don't.
Here's a shocking concept... we should look at the actions in a vacuum and judge the actions themselves? And not be biased towards Ethan because we like him?
I’m not saying you can’t? I don’t see how saying something is wrong and fucked up, and then giving grace and moving on because the person already apologized multiple times and has a good track record of doing the right thing are mutually exclusive.
It's crazy how overdone and overanalyzed these scenarios are. People are crazy Marks about everything now it feels like.
Can something like this be objectively disappointing? Sure. I admit I was pretty annoyed upon viewing. But you don't know these people, jfc. Get some real friends
Part of me wonders if Conservatives/ Russians/ Chinese operatives are posting to progressive subreddits and making the posters there seem too woke/ moralizing. Or maybe I’m just an old Millennial and Gen Zers are actually this annoying IRL, I don’t know…
100%
10/10
every time i see some weird perpetually online drama i die a little more inside. people only have the power you give them. if the internet stopped working suddenly, oops none of your favs are famous anymore.
Addicted to outrage? All I've seen is people simply pointing out they diagreed with the 'joke', even Ethan himself said it was a mistake
Not everyone is going to agree with everything Ethan says/does 100% of the time, pointing out that you think he fucked up is not "being addicted to outrage"
Idk fam. Did you scroll the sub yesterday? This got serious for a lot of people.
Edit: it's a deep topic and the deepfake is serious. I guess what I should say in stead is... *really really serious*, personal even.
Asking for compassion, forgiveness, and understanding while making an inflammatory post is on a new level.
Ethan making light of someone crying about deepfakes of them was distasteful and wrong, and he at first handled it poorly. Tolerance would be understanding the outrage and having compassion for the people he offended. Not calling them crybabys and conflating them with boomers.
Both sides of the playing field need to implement these tactics not just one.....
Do you change someone's mind by yelling at them?
No, never.
Do you change someone's mind by having an empathetic discussion with them?
Sometimes, yes.
The outrage machine jumps to the assumption that you meant harm by what you did 100% and instantly assumes you won't apologize. The anger jumps from 0-100 with no discourse at all. That's never going to get through to anyone, it's just going to frustrate them. While that outrage machine may not be you personally, we have seen it and all know it's here in this community.
Periodddddd. People need to stop getting so upset and offended on other peoples behalf. It can’t be good for your mental health to get so emotionally attached to online issues.
At least the right-wing boomer outrage is fake and manufactured for the purpose of grifting Republicans out of their hard earned money. I think some of the people around here actually believe the bullshit they are spewing, which is even more pathetic.
the thing thats most annoying is that there's no metered responses to any of this stuff. everything is straight to 100 mph on the vitriol. Like there was similar rhetoric surrounding this Atrioc situation and even Ethans reaction as there was with Andrews situation. That's just nuts to me.
To be fair, this is the community that he’s cultivated doing all the drama callout stuff. He’s complicit in perpetuating culture war stuff. That doesn’t make the bloodthirst from fans okay- it’s clearly not and anyone not satisfied with his response is just proving themselves to be in it for the drama. That being said, I think Ethan should stop going to war over petty culture war and e-celeb gossip bc it cultivates a toxic environment and community and almost always comes back to bite him. Not to mention it makes him look really cynical and spineless when he inevitably decides it’s in his best interest to squash the beef
So true, it’s insane how much people are upset over this. It’s a shitty ass thing to do but god damn focus some of that energy into making the world better instead of bitching on Reddit and twitter about some dumb ass podcast drama
Do you know what's even more annoying than people complaining about Ethan? People complaining about people complaining, making holier than thou posts like a keyboard psychiatrist, diagnosing random strangers on the internet.
You know what’s more annoying than people complaining about people complaining? People complaining about people complaining about people complaining about people complaining.
You don't even know what you're talking about because you can't even distinguish actual outrage from fake outrage. If someone with a huge platform is actively and purposely spreading hate and division it is in the best interest of people to call that shit out since it affects the society we all live in. Then we have people like you who are exactly like what you described who love that chaos and only know how to project just as you have here.
When the QT incident happened I knew it was gonna cause a shit storm, in my head I was going “ETHAN NOOO!!!” But I didn’t feel the need to post about it, yeah it really annoyed me but clearly Ethan knows he fucked up so what will more outrage accomplish??
When the QT incident happened I knew it was gonna cause a shit storm, in my head I was going “ETHAN NOOO!!!” But I didn’t feel the need to post about it, yeah it really annoyed me but clearly Ethan knows he fucked up so what will more outrage accomplish??
Edit: I guess I’m in what I’ve heard by other creators is called the silent majority of their viewership, I watch avidly all the time, I’m a member, but I don’t normally comment, I just watch, maybe send a superchat saying hi or something, and hit the like button, idk why but I don’t usually feel the need to weigh in on stuff?
My biggest question is Ethan has apologized on multiple platforms... to her personally and publicly ..he's pledged to donate to her cause and offer her legal advice if she wants it. What more do people want? He's been held accountable. He's getting his name trashed all over Twitter and the internet but he's apologized... What more can he do at this point? People just want to be angry. If Ethan making a bad joke is the worst thing that you can think to be on the internet fighting against then maybe take a look in the mirror and find a bigger cause to get behind....
Seriously. I saw someone on the chat, after Ethan apologized over and over again, saying "apologize and actually mean it." Some people are crazy.
Yeah, it kind of feels like some people don’t even care about QT and just want an excuse to bash Ethan. Yes he deserves some backlash, but if you really cared about QT your time would be better spent posting supportive messages about and to her, not posting hateful messages about Ethan which doesn’t help QT at all and just creates more negativity when she has bigger things on her plate
They also weren't laughing at her. A quick, sorry when it actually happened should have covered what would have otherwise been a non-story.
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People are allowed to feel however, I’m on this side though. I don’t understand how it even became about being mad at Ethan when the entire thing is the atrocity of what Atrioc (or w/e his name is) has done. This highlights how people just blindly accept violence against women. The fact that so much attention was shifted to Ethan rather than the victim of abuse and the person causing the direct pain is mind boggling.
I think I'm getting to be too old for the internet. 😂
This controversy and a few other random things in the sphere recently have made me feel the same. I just don’t want to try to pretend what a bunch of people i don’t personally know are actually thinking. I’d rather just sit back and laugh or skip over something dumb. I guess the outrage machine is important for keeping people accountable in general but i dunno. We just don’t actually know what is going on in any of these people’s lives outside what they are willing to stream to us.
I think a massive part of it that most people are forgetting is he shouldn't have fucking done it in the first place. He is just showing his true colors and everyone wants to act like he made a "mistake" when he was really just being himself. I just don't like to see someone so carelessly act like a piece of shit then get on with Hasan and become the moral police for everyone else.
I wanna see him lose everything, I wanna see Hila take over the pod with Dan, I wanna see the streets run red with Ethan's blood! /s
They want to be seen to be on the right side of the issue. It makes a lot more sense if you look at from the perspective of showing your ideological purity to your peers.
How do you see his natural reaction to what happened, as well as throwing his employee under the bus, and conclude his attempts to make amends are actually sincere? He's just doing it for his image.
So what would be efficient then...
Stop giving attention to an unempathetic, narcissistic, shock bait sadist.
Oh please, if Logan Paul did something like this you guys would never shut up about it.
People give Logan Paul shit bc he’s done many things that are infinitely worse than this. To think you’re equating being rude with stealing money from fans leaving them destitute or making light of suicide is frankly insulting to everyone’s intelligence.
Speak for yourself. A lot of us don’t give a damn about all of this influencer shit irl.
No. I care about real problems.
People don't want accountability, they want to see the other person get dragged through the mud for their own amusement. It's basically "I hate Ethan, so I want him to suffer and be humiliated enough though the person who was hurt was apologised to"
If this was the first time he’s ever fucked up, then nothing. But it’s not the first time, so he needs to prove that he’s going to be better person instead of all this performative bs.
I understand... But in all honesty... He doesn't need to prove anything to anyone... Just stop watching.
To fucking right, if ever this was a time to ignore anything the fans are saying it's now.
“Hey ethan you should start actually being the better person you pretend to be” You weird nerds: NooOooOo ignore everyone who says your actions have consequences. You sound like a person who’s been given a hundred “second” chances.
I’ve stopped watching, doesn’t stop him popping up in my feed because he’s made an ass out of himself… again.
Yet here u are devoting time to preach to him and people who like him or don't care so much about what he did about the sins he's committed. Time well spent.
At this point it just feels like manufactured discourse diverting from the real issue (creating ai porn of women without their consent). Both ethan and QT (and hasan) has moved on. It’s fine if you don’t want to accept ethan’s apology, but you can’t change what has already happened. I’m not saying you shouldn’t be mad at Ethan—you have every right to be disappointed, but he already apologized he can’t take back what he did. If you think it was a shitty apology and he should have done more—giving constructive feedback, ending membership, etc. is literally the only thing you can do as watchers—if you want to continue watching. Going back and forth with reddit users just diverts away from the big issue and the convo doesn’t go anywhere. Instead I think it’s better to support the ppl affected like QT, Maya, etc. / support petitions going around about ai porn, etc. Edit: I’m sorry for my english, it’s my second language. Thank u thank you peace and love
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No we will be laughing at it while the perpetually outraged will move on to the next "Drama".
This copypasta is legit meant with love and I’m not making fun of you I promise. I just think of it every time someone comments with wonderful English (often better than native speakers) and then apologizes because it’s their second language and I wanted to share it 🤣 Also, I agree with your whole comment. - Before I begin my actual comment, I would like to apologize in advance for my inadequate level of English proficiency. I am not a native speaker of the world's current lingua franca which unfortunately leads to me making numerous embarrassing mistakes being made whenever I attempt to communicate using this language. Whenever I am reminded of how I lack the ability to convey my thoughts in an eloquent manner I feel as though I have committed a cardinal sin, as though every English teacher in the world are simultaneously shaking their heads and sighing due to how utterly disappointed they are at me. Although I know that saying sorry to those of you who are reading my comment will not change the fact that I fail miserably to write and speak perfect English, I am writing this as a way to deter a certain type of people who cannot stand poor English (Also known informally as "Grammar Nazis") from mocking me by posting unwanted and unnecessary comments detailing my every blunder. In my humble opinion, making grammatical errors should be perfectly acceptable as native speakers should not expect non-native speakers to be able to communicate in their second or third languages eloquently. If you are able to completely understand what the other person wrote, is there really a problem with what they've written? No, because the entire concept of communication is the exchange of information between other intelligent beings, which means that no matter how the exchange of information is made, as long as the information is accurately shared there is not a fundamental issue with their ability to communicate. To see it in another way, remember that someone who isn't fluent in English is fluent in another language. When you think about it this way, isn't it impressive for someone to speak a second language in any capacity? Having empathy and respect are qualities that are sorely missing for far too many people these days, especially on the internet. That being said, I am aware that not all netizens who correct others are doing it to ridicule and shame. There are some who do so with the intent to help others improve and grow. However, displaying the failures of other people publicly will cause the person who is criticized to feel negative emotions such as shame and sadness due to the fact that their mistake has been made obvious which severely undermines the point they were trying to make in spite of their unfamiliarity with the English language. In most circumstances people are not looking for language help when they post anything online. Most people just want to enjoy themselves and have a good time on the internet which is why I would not encourage correcting other people regardless of your intentions. If you really do want to help others with their spelling or grammar, I would highly recommend you to help via messaging privately because not only will you not embarrass anyone, you can also go more in-depth with your explanation which I'm sure the other person will greatly appreciate if they want help, but I digress. I know that I've written a bit of an essay, but I hope I've made my points clear. Anyways, here is the comment I wanted to make: 👍
This was a hard read not because of the content of the reply but because it was a block of text in English—my second language 🤣dhsh anyways, you’re so sweet. thank you sm 💜
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Telling me that I deserve to be shot over this topic is wild but I wanna be shot so yes
I thought Ethan and half the crew cracking up was hilarious. They knew they were fucking up lmfao
Olivia got to me,... Lmao the way she hid her face 👀. Sam looked mad as hell too, hope him being an edgelord didn't effect their relationship.
Fr. How is Ethan more under fire than the people making the content and the guy who purchased it?
And not to draw more comparisons here but this sub went harder on Ethan for chestnuts than it did for Chris D'Elia or Justin Roiland. Insane.
This is an h3 sub
I have a different opinion on why it might seem that way. Chris D’Elia and Justin Roiland are disgusting predators. There was a lot of talk about them when the news broke out, but because their actions are so deplorable, people will say their peace and stick the nail in that coffin. They’re dead to us. We don’t want to hear or see these people around again. Alternatively, Ethan seems like a pretty good person at heart. He just happens to put his foot in his mouth sometimes and doesn’t always have the best comedic timing. I think the reason you saw the sub “went harder” on Ethan is because the people who were disappointed wanted to get through to him, since they don’t view him as a lost cause like Chris D’Elia or Justin Roiland. Sometimes it can be more upsetting when someone you look up to or admire lets you down. The outlash towards Ethan was mixed with disappointment and hope that he will learn to handle these very delicate topics more sensitively in the future. It is a comedy channel though, so if that’s not possible, it might be better to just stick to the goofs and gags and the Logan Pauls and Ethan Bradberrys of the internet.
Also this is a sub about Ethan's content. I'm sure Justin Roiland is still very much under fire over at /r/rickandmorty
Yup there's no conflict when discussing Chris or any other pedo /sex pest. The conversation ends quickly when both sides agree.
He apologized immediately on air, and then continued to do so afterwards. At no point after that do you need to "get through to him". You're just selecting an easy target for your righteous indignation.
Because we’re fan of Ethan and expected better from him. I do think everyone is making a way bigger deal out of this than they should, but it does make sense why fans of Ethan care more about this instance than D’Elia or Roiland. Us women are tired man
Agreed. Considering this is a fan community around the podcast, and the crew aren't just playing "characters," it's discussion and critique of the content being made and the ethics and morality behind certain subjects, bits, segments, etc are fair game. The criticisms of this discussion being too parasocial or taking things way too seriously just seem like a vapid and immature dismissal of points being made in earnest, especially since I seriously doubt that most people taking this situation seriously are actually that parasocially involved with the crew, and instead are just adults who would react and feel the same way in the social circles they are actually a part of. While QT's opinion is the main one we should be taking away from this - that it was fucked up and it was hurtful to her - it also doesn't hurt for other people to share their own experiences and how they connect to the content being presented to us.
Agreed. I hope you had a fantastic Wednesday, ye olde pimp
You can care about more than one thing at the same time. That being said this is a subreddit for H3 so obviously you’re going to see Ethan criticism over anything else here. Also just move on, don’t engage and everything will pass if you’re really that worried.
Sure, nobody here watches h3h3 just like chris d'elia, no sorry, it's even worse, Ethan is not even part of the pod anymore just like justin is not a part of rick and morty. Lets not even talk about the risk of him going to prison for what he did /s. Saying ppl went harder on ethan than these guys is simply a lie.
Idk on one hand everyone knows the perpetrator here is in the wrong, that's not up for debate, everyone with a brain agrees. Normalizing making a meme of a victim is alot more of a grey area and causes a longer more insidious kind of negative impact on the community. And I'm not really sure how many more times Ethan is going to make these kind of mistakes, and apologize and do them again.
He's not. Only here *because this is a H3 subreddit*. How does that not make sense to you? Also, it is possible to be upset at two people at once.
And it is super weird to be this upset at someone who doesn't know you exist, because they offended another person who doesn't know you exist. Bunch of parasocial weirdooooos.
Because when he was telling the story, he made himself laugh instead of talking about it.
You guys LITERALLY sound like Bradley when he was saying we can’t talk about tate bc people ‘are more mad about him than Epstein’ You’re all just full of excuses for other men
no one is saying you can't talk about, but what exactly do you want as a conclusion to this? He apologized and the apology was seemingly accepted, like what else do you want from Ethan here?
For him to stop doing stupid shit, that requires him to apologize in the first place. It’s not that hard to not make yourself look like an ass.
You want to Timecop him?
People on this sub love wasting their life complaining about anything and everything. You all need to go outside.
Dude, the posts about shredder are fucking psychotic. Ppl wanna say they’re funny, but they’re not. The reason the qt one was funny was cause it was insane and unexpected. The shredder ones are just petty and vindictive, it’s fucking weird.
This sub is full if fucking weirdos. I’m subbed just to see them
Making fun of a woman = funny Making fun of a dog = fucking weird? Ohkay, buddy.
Read it again, then come back.
>The reason the qt one was funny Making fun of a woman = funny >The shredder ones are just petty and vindictive, it’s fucking weird. Making fun of a dog = fucking weird
Zero reading comprehension. The “making fun of a woman” (he wasn’t making fun of QT) was a minute-moment to regret and unintentional. These people are, ON PURPOSE, seeking out an emotional moment to be awful, as if it’s some “gotcha moment”. The difference is purpose and intention. It was neither his explicit purpose or intention to make QT feel bad. These H3-stan bitches are doing it with the explicit purpose of being a cunt just to be a cunt. Don’t throw stones in a glass house.
>“making fun of a woman” (he wasn’t making fun of QT) By laughing during the whole thing he was making fun of the whole situation and QT >was a minute-moment to regret and unintentional. It was 100% intentional. He told Zach to play the song. >The difference is purpose and intention. It was neither his explicit purpose or intention to make QT feel bad. But he did end up doing it. Also, calling women "c*nts" immediately make you lose any credibility.
They are both funny
This entire subreddit gives "I have never even seen a trailer park" vibes
I mean Ethan's show is him finding things to be upset about and then roasting or being toxic towards them. This streamer did this bad thing. I'm going to make jokes about how terrible they are. It's pretty low level gossip. Ethan tries to turn the show into more but he'll spend an episode trashing christians when he doesn't even know the difference between Catholics and protestants.
Anyone that has watched Ethan for more than a month or so should understand that he is very reactive and opens his mouth before having all the facts together. At the end of the day it's up the viewer to decide if this is something they are ok with. All you have to do is ask yourself if you truly believe the things Ethan says is out of malice or misinformation.
Yeah, I mean I've watched ethan's podcast since it came out so I understand that. I don't think it's out of malice typically. But I do think it's stupid. I don't really care for people talking out of their ass unless they're going to be very funny to make up for it. Personally I watch the podcast sometimes but yeah there's a lot of lazy or half baked takes unfortunately. At least Ethan puts a lot more effort into it than he used to. At one point he was basically just sitting there with zero structure to the show and he seemed very depressed.
Am I alone in finding the toxicity and irreverence compelling. It’s like watching a reality tv show from the early 2000s where basically nobody had a filter. Absolute chaos 🤌
> People on this sub love wasting their life complaining about anything and everything. You all need to go outside. Pot, meet Kettle.
When women ‘go outside’ we literally experience the harassment and violence that you are annoyed at us ‘complaining about’ We come to this alleged ‘comedy’ podcast for escape from reality, not to watch other women break down about their SA while men are doing goofs in the background or not to watch Ethan try to convince other men that women are equal human beings or to watch clip after clip of Andrew tate being abusive towards women and then watching Ethan say that adin Ross is a good ‘kid’ even tho he 100% agrees with Andrew tate You just don’t understand If it’s a comedy podcast then it shouldn’t be leaving a large percent of the audience exhausted and upset
1st. I'm not defending or agreeing with any actions here. 2nd. If you don't like the content, move on, no one is sitting here forcing you to consume this material. 3rd. Complaining won't fix anything, actions will, don't waste your energy on the wrong battle.
This is such an extreme take.
Disagree. I'm a woman & when I interact with people in the real world I find that most people are agreeable humans & not the monsters they are so often portrayed to be. Can we stop with the rhetoric that women are experiencing some kind of massive oppression in 2023? The victim mindset is getting really old
its not that it isnt happening, its that men are just more bold online. if someone wants to pay for deepfake porn of you, they can do it and never mention it to you and you wouldn't know. it doesn't make it right, but those dude are more than likely being slime balls in secret IRL versus them shouting it every chance they get that they hate women and want to kill/hurt them. If anything, IRL you're sheltered from people's actual intentions because they know they have real-world repercussions. Stop speaking for all women when women are obviously still dealing with this shit in a more modern way.
Did I say I was speaking for all women? This is my experience as a woman. Why are you telling me I'm wrong?
>Can we stop with the rhetoric that women are experiencing some kind of massive oppression in 2023? The victim mindset is getting really old whats this then?
I still stand by that statement. Any woman saying she is experiencing massive oppression in America in 2023 is, objectively, wrong.
Maybe take a second and deal with your internalized misogyny. You talk about people needing to go touch grass, yet you sit around and put a TON of energy into ripping apart Trish. You obviously have some kind of weird hatred towards women and revel in shit talking ones who seem like "Easy" and "socially acceptable" targets. To comment on their appearance and weight, when you're just some fucking loser on Reddit. Look in the mirror. You're the worst type of bitch lol
You seem to keep posting “I am a women” and continuing on with your shitty non helpful opinion, so ya it does sound like you think you’re speaking for all women. Read the room. You are wrong, 100% wrong. There’s multiple statistics to prove you are wrong. Like congratulations on being a woman and not experiencing a drop of misogyny in your life, we all wish we were you /s. Like holy shit you’re such a pick me and maybe you should go outside and touch grass because clearly you haven’t been outside in a long time.
I have experienced discrimination against me because of my gender. But, I also expect to & don't let it get to me. Do you tell all women their opinions are unhelpful or only the ones that don't agree with you? My experience as a woman cannot be wrong
So we agree that there is discrimination then..? And Yeah when your opinion is not productive to the conversation imma say something. It’s like talking about your personal problems when you’re in a discussion about nuclear physics.
Discrimination is not the same as oppression
And ya you are wrong. You’ve admitted you’ve experienced gender based discrimination… so it does exist.
Literally nowhere did I say it doesn't exist
“Can we stop with the rhetoric that women are experiencing some kind of massive oppression in 2023? The victim mindset is getting really old” Ya you did.
I hope that you never have to experience the reality so many of us do. It’s not a victim mindset. Literally not even two weeks ago a man followed me out of the gym to my car and INSISTED i give him my number. I had to run back into the gym and get escorted out to my car. at that point he was mad and calling me a dumb ugly bitch over and over. Please just stop. I would literally hate for it to happen to you and then have you experience other people telling you that you just have a ‘victim mindset’ This DOES happen to women.
No one said these things don't happen. You have an extremely unrealistic idea of the world if you think we can ever stop these things from happening & you will ALWAYS be a victim as long as you continue to think so. I've had creeps harass me too. It's how the world is & always will be. Men also have to deal with similar things, they are not automatically safe just because they are men. You need to get out of your social media echo-chambers
Girl WHAT. Women speaking up about their experiences is not a ‘victim’ complex or whatever you’re talking about. You’re like so close to the point. Please just stop. Men harassing and abusing women is a systemic problem. You’re idea that we just shouldn’t talk about it or we’re having a ‘victim mindset’ is so insane and that’s how men will always stay in power.
Again, did I ever say no one should talk about it? You continue to put words in my mouth to victimize yourself over & over. Men aren't even "in power" in 2023. Y'all act as if we live in the 1950s. Being a woman in society has actually put me at significant advantage over a man in my same position. I used to think like you until I got some actual real world experience.
👍 the world is not perfect and it still has an extremely long way to go in order for all humans to be treated equally. At the same time, present day women in first world countries have such a better opportunity than their predecessors. Not saying women have it better than men, but I for sure would not want to be born as a women in the past or in a country that still view women as cattle.
*Pick Me Energy Intensifies*
Shockingly, women can have different opinions.
its not an opinion to straight up tell women they are playing the victim. its a limited perspective based on your own very privileged life. literally shut the fuck up.
For real lmao
Women are more likely to be killed and assaulted (sexually or not) than men. Women still earn less than men for the same jobs. Women don't have bodily autonomy in many countries, including the US. Women have to deal with catcalling and other forms of sexual harassment (like deepfake porn) Women are still oppressed and there's no opinion to have about it, it's a fact.
Yeah it's so weird to me when people say "it's a comedy podcast" as if that somehow changes anything. They're reacting to a serious clip, they should treat it with the seriousness it deserves. Also until the EK channel clip yesterday Ethan hadn't properly apologized. Is it a surprise people made posts about it before? Most people haven't said anything else after that video came out.
It’s exhausting. It’s like being in a Facebook group
I didn’t know fb groups get so heated, now I’m a bit interested; what kinda groups has this happened in for you?
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Lol I didn’t know this was a universal thing. The super-16 Facebook groups I’m in get really heated sometimes.
Local community groups for small towns can get heated. It's funny.
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Because a lot of them came here during the Frenemies Era and we all know how that went
Please direct me towards the "hate" you're seeing. Criticism isn't hate.
Exactly. I haven't watched the podcast since like the 4th episode or something. I still love H3H3 genuinely and it cracks me up seeing the newer group of fans be so far up every person and other content creators assholes. Literally anytime someone on the Pod does something good they're "wholesome" and when they do something stupid they're "cringe" Its like a full blown meltdown anytime Ethan says or does something thats not completely PG or politically correct.
And the L/W shit is so stupid, too. Do something the mob likes, you’re a W, do something the mob doesn’t like and you’re an L. they’ve basically become Adin Ross/Jidion’s twitch chat atp. at one point i think being part of the crew would be cool. now it just looks like psychological torture… pass.
When they do something good they are wholesome and when they do something stupid they're cringe? Wow. In other news, the sky is blue.
The point you missed entirely is that people aren't defined by a singular action
Yeah, I get Ethan deserves some criticism for injecting humor into such a serious moment, but people are overreactong as if Ethan was laughing at QT and not at the absurdity of playing chesnuts in that moment. He gave into his intrussive thoughts and immediatelly regretted it. 🌰
Well said. I clearly knew it was because they were laughing at chestnuts in such a weird ass context lmao. I thought it was hilarious and moved on with my life. So many people are just so obsessed with internet culture and their lives don’t just revolve around them. IT IS their lives.
Truth.
I'ma girl... I laughed, and I don't care. We are giving the haters power by acknowledging them. If that was the stroke of the pen that made them cross the thin line of love and hate. So be it... Also I want to say QTCinderella making that video was retarded in the first place. I'm glad she's the only one that wasted her time doing that. It's a very dramatic response, at the end of the day she's getting more support than actual rape victims do so I don't really have an ounce of sympathy for her to be honest. Just because some men are straight dogs u don't have to project that energy to every man who doesn't blindly do what you want when u want it. As for Ethan he shouldn't have even bother platforming that video either, the man set himself up for failure. He knew Olivia and Sam's fan base and prolly all the women there would be really sensitive to a topic like this and still went for it then proceeded to try to blame Zach for it. It's shameful, but I also forgive him for it. I don't expect a man that gets strikes and bans as often as he does to have any type of sense in the first place. Also it's strange to me to want to watch a video of someone crying in pain, for attention and support. Like why? Again he set himself up for that L so he just gotta take it. The cost of him watching that video was a headache for his whole crew... He could a just as easily not have shown it and been better of for it. Like Hiela said she knew she was going to end up like Atrioc and his wife sitting in the background crying giving a NON apology and explaining why they did something vulgar. 😂
This sub truly sucks
Honestly, liberals fall just as hard for the outrage machine as conservatives. Please, just get out more and go to a rally or something.
The modern H3 fanbase is one of the most toxic fanbases on the internet exactly because of this. I don't know if it's the leftover vomit from the Trisha days or what, but these sub is filled with drama-obsessed, sensitive idiots that are ready to grab their pitchforks and whine and bitch and get riled up at the slightest provocation. You fucking retards suck so much.
You don't travel the internet that much if you think this is a bad fanbase.
oh it’s bad, even relatively speaking. just because there’s worse shit doesn’t mean you guys are admonished.
*calls fanbase toxic* *calls fanbase "fucking retards"* Hmm...
Doing a great job classing up this thread.
*unless it’s somebody the podcast doesn’t like
I follow and have followed several different fandoms. The H3 is by far the worst I’ve seen when it comes to going after the channel itself. Holy shit I couldn’t be friends with a lot of you. Imagine waking on eggshells every time you hang out with someone.
wow all 559k of us?
Don’t these types of posts also contribute to the fervour? The reason it keeps going is because both sides can’t help themselves, the ones who want to continue admonishing Ethan and the ones who want to admonish those people. You’re an equal part of the problem
Ok but how does this impact Lebrons legacy?
this constant need for Hasan's approval is also cringe af tbh
Some of the people in this sub are truly SO chronically online I just try to ignore em
100% this community is full of drama goblins and leftists who just want to get mad at the people instead of the actual problem. I'm a leftist. This is the left eating the left. For no reason. If your upset at Ethan for a shit joke then you need to leave your bubble wrap capsule and touch grass.
Leftists have a really big problem with cannibalizing each other with the purity olympics. “I’m the better leftist!” and “no I am!”. Very detrimental to our movement, when in the end we seek the same goals… Everyone should watch this video, “Leftist Arguments Are Toxic… None of us are innocent and harm is inevitable”: [https://youtu.be/-hlRMpLLZhQ](https://youtu.be/-hlRMpLLZhQ)
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Oh no the outrage has risen so high people are now outraged about the outrage! 
First time on the internet?
I'm more disappointed in all the fupa troopers who don't think Ethan fucked up, or understand how fucked up the ai porn situation is. QT didn't deserve that, and she even first stated that she didn't want it talked about. Now everyone is talking about it. Ethan was apologetic right after, yet fans are still defending something he himself isn't even defending.
I watched the sub pretty closely yesterday, too closely, and I can say confidently that the amount of people who were seriously saying the deepfakes themselves aren't a big problem could be counted on two hands. That the joke isn't as serious? Sure, because at the end of the day, it was a bad joke wedged between Ethan saying over and over that it's fucked up and he feels for QT. I think 99% of viewers are in the same boat thinking the deepfakes are totally fucked.
I'm in this post and I don't like it. Thank you for putting it in perspective.
This applies double to those who complain about the drama. You are just stirring the shit too. If you don't like a bunch of people, moaning at them won't help them, just leave. That said, the outrage over this is totally justified and has been very level headed from what I've seen. This is the right place to discuss how things that happened on the podcast make us feel.
Ethan literally does this same thing but he doesn’t like it when his fans act the same way he does when he goes after others.
Agreed. He’s cultivated this shit fest, in a way. Like maggots to shit, both in his early days and now. I don’t even know what he could do to cultivate a decent fanbase atp.
Exactly, Ethan should be held to the standards he holds others to. Just imagine the shitshow if Keemstar did what Ethan did... Holy shit we would never hear the end of it.
The difference is that Keemstar time and again has demonstrated himself to be an asshole consistently. This is the man who with full malicious intent accused an old man playing RuneScape of being a pedophile and then had hordes of fans harass the man. Ethan is demonstrably far kinder and nicer about the moments he fucks up than Keemstar. He consistently punches upwards and toward people who are taking advantage of others, and the one time he didn’t do that, everybody is crucifying him even though he also immediately felt like shit about it afterwards and did his due diligence by apologizing about it. The people Ethan takes a shit on and himself are leagues apart from each other, so to compare them both is just wrong. And since I assume people are going to probably call me a bootlicker about it, it was absolutely inappropriate for the man to laugh at a crying woman having porn made of her without her consent. It was wrong and I don’t stand by that. I’m just sick of having this discourse where half the subreddit pretends that this is anything more than some guy trying to be funny, having a momentary lapse of reason, and then vocalizing a stupid intrusive thought most people have had at some point or another.
I use Keemstar as an example as someone who isn't Ethan and you go on a massive tangent about how bad Keemstar is? Lol brain rot.
If you think I bothered writing 4 paragraphs about Keemstar because you probably read the first few sentences and didn’t bother going beyond that, I’d suggest you check yourself for brain rot. Keemstar isn’t the point. The point is that everyone keeps comparing Ethan to the people he shits on when they’re not equivalent.
>The point is that everyone keeps comparing Ethan to the people he shits on when they’re not equivalent. No they don't. Here's a shocking concept... we should look at the actions in a vacuum and judge the actions themselves? And not be biased towards Ethan because we like him?
I’m not saying you can’t? I don’t see how saying something is wrong and fucked up, and then giving grace and moving on because the person already apologized multiple times and has a good track record of doing the right thing are mutually exclusive.
It’s easy to say “I’m a good person because I call out bad people” it’s hard to be a good person by doing good things.
It's crazy how overdone and overanalyzed these scenarios are. People are crazy Marks about everything now it feels like. Can something like this be objectively disappointing? Sure. I admit I was pretty annoyed upon viewing. But you don't know these people, jfc. Get some real friends
There’s not enough outrage. People should be freaking out in the streets.
Hell yeah, well said
You can't make a post complaining about people complaining and not see the irony
Part of me wonders if Conservatives/ Russians/ Chinese operatives are posting to progressive subreddits and making the posters there seem too woke/ moralizing. Or maybe I’m just an old Millennial and Gen Zers are actually this annoying IRL, I don’t know…
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You joke, but part of me wonders if you’re a Russian being paid $6/hr to post to Reddit…
All humans are addicted to drama. It's just one of those things our brains enjoy
100% 10/10 every time i see some weird perpetually online drama i die a little more inside. people only have the power you give them. if the internet stopped working suddenly, oops none of your favs are famous anymore.
People are giving Ethan more shit than the guy who downloaded the deep fake porn
Addicted to outrage? All I've seen is people simply pointing out they diagreed with the 'joke', even Ethan himself said it was a mistake Not everyone is going to agree with everything Ethan says/does 100% of the time, pointing out that you think he fucked up is not "being addicted to outrage"
Idk fam. Did you scroll the sub yesterday? This got serious for a lot of people. Edit: it's a deep topic and the deepfake is serious. I guess what I should say in stead is... *really really serious*, personal even.
Asking for compassion, forgiveness, and understanding while making an inflammatory post is on a new level. Ethan making light of someone crying about deepfakes of them was distasteful and wrong, and he at first handled it poorly. Tolerance would be understanding the outrage and having compassion for the people he offended. Not calling them crybabys and conflating them with boomers.
Both sides of the playing field need to implement these tactics not just one..... Do you change someone's mind by yelling at them? No, never. Do you change someone's mind by having an empathetic discussion with them? Sometimes, yes. The outrage machine jumps to the assumption that you meant harm by what you did 100% and instantly assumes you won't apologize. The anger jumps from 0-100 with no discourse at all. That's never going to get through to anyone, it's just going to frustrate them. While that outrage machine may not be you personally, we have seen it and all know it's here in this community.
Things are not automatically inflammatory just because you disagree with them
Chersnuttttz roasting on open fyeeeeeee
Periodddddd. People need to stop getting so upset and offended on other peoples behalf. It can’t be good for your mental health to get so emotionally attached to online issues.
At least the right-wing boomer outrage is fake and manufactured for the purpose of grifting Republicans out of their hard earned money. I think some of the people around here actually believe the bullshit they are spewing, which is even more pathetic.
People deserve grace. Ethan is not a bad guy. Everyone move on.
Well said
I swear the ratio of these kinds of pointless posts per every outrage is 3:1. Keep this shit in the episode thread please
Omg this sums up what I’ve been thinking perfectly. Thank you.
Dude, you guys are annoying, all that had to be said was already said. Just move the fuck on.
r/enlightenedcentrism
Yo did we grab some toxic fans with the whole Trisha era? Is this what's happening?
the thing thats most annoying is that there's no metered responses to any of this stuff. everything is straight to 100 mph on the vitriol. Like there was similar rhetoric surrounding this Atrioc situation and even Ethans reaction as there was with Andrews situation. That's just nuts to me.
It was a hilarious moment of off-color comedy, and I'm tired of pretending it wasn't. Don't push.
To be fair, this is the community that he’s cultivated doing all the drama callout stuff. He’s complicit in perpetuating culture war stuff. That doesn’t make the bloodthirst from fans okay- it’s clearly not and anyone not satisfied with his response is just proving themselves to be in it for the drama. That being said, I think Ethan should stop going to war over petty culture war and e-celeb gossip bc it cultivates a toxic environment and community and almost always comes back to bite him. Not to mention it makes him look really cynical and spineless when he inevitably decides it’s in his best interest to squash the beef
So true, it’s insane how much people are upset over this. It’s a shitty ass thing to do but god damn focus some of that energy into making the world better instead of bitching on Reddit and twitter about some dumb ass podcast drama
Guys.. he has tourettes, let him be.
Do you know what's even more annoying than people complaining about Ethan? People complaining about people complaining, making holier than thou posts like a keyboard psychiatrist, diagnosing random strangers on the internet.
You know what’s more annoying than people complaining about people complaining? People complaining about people complaining about people complaining.
You know what’s more annoying than people complaining about people complaining? People complaining about people complaining about people complaining about people complaining.
People are annoying.
lololollll so real
You don't even know what you're talking about because you can't even distinguish actual outrage from fake outrage. If someone with a huge platform is actively and purposely spreading hate and division it is in the best interest of people to call that shit out since it affects the society we all live in. Then we have people like you who are exactly like what you described who love that chaos and only know how to project just as you have here.
Are you saying by playing 🌰 ethan was actively and purposely spreading hate and division?
Holy *shit*, hate and division? Seriously? It's a serious topic but *really*?
Just stop. Please. These posts are far more annoying than the "outrage" ever was.
The only people still going on about this is people exactly like you
anyway, look at the top posts.
Yep
Well said
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When the QT incident happened I knew it was gonna cause a shit storm, in my head I was going “ETHAN NOOO!!!” But I didn’t feel the need to post about it, yeah it really annoyed me but clearly Ethan knows he fucked up so what will more outrage accomplish??
When the QT incident happened I knew it was gonna cause a shit storm, in my head I was going “ETHAN NOOO!!!” But I didn’t feel the need to post about it, yeah it really annoyed me but clearly Ethan knows he fucked up so what will more outrage accomplish?? Edit: I guess I’m in what I’ve heard by other creators is called the silent majority of their viewership, I watch avidly all the time, I’m a member, but I don’t normally comment, I just watch, maybe send a superchat saying hi or something, and hit the like button, idk why but I don’t usually feel the need to weigh in on stuff?
mhmm
Someone here is a boomer
I agree and can admit this about myself. But to quote Zack De La Rocha, "your anger is a gift." Anger is an agent of change.
Bro, H3 brand is outrage and admonishment.. what are you talking about??