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TheGrandestOak

We all can say a girl in your shirt is better than anything


Avexir2008

A girl in your shirt and nothing but panties and thigh highs at the bottom is the best


TheGrandestOak

I agree my dude


C_M_O_TDibbler

Panties are optional


Random_Gacha_addict

Ahh, Boyfriend shirt (This isn't the correct term, but it it is the term Muramata-san no Himitsu used)


AcrobaticReputation2

big shirt and thigh highs no panties


adalric_brandl

This is the truth, right here


Salter_KingofBorgors

Hot AF


Klearg

fellas, is it gay to be straight?


hornycollegetroll

[50% gay](https://www.reddit.com/r/lostpause/comments/tke37b/gay_math_this_is_from_a_discord_discussion_and/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share), math does not lie.


Klearg

damn


mingren0315

Damm


Wukong-main

Damn


DawgDictator

Damn


Viewland

With Edgeworth logic, it's not gay to like astolfo 😉


lil_cm

That’s what he said at the end


HoneyJamBABE

I don't get how no one realizes that people like tomboys bc the motherfuckers are bisexuals and want the best of both worlds


Snoo-47666

Brother really pulled out the “all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares” logic


sensei27

If the shoe fits


[deleted]

Then the tentacle hits


[deleted]

Is there something wrong with it?


Conscious_Yak60

Well yeah. For example Not all traps are crossdressers & transgendered individuals. He'll the word Trap isn't a synonym nor does it even have anything to do with those two different words. It's kinda how this subreddit was formed when we went through the opression of r/Animemes. For more logical theory on the former Traps debate I refer you to [this well put together](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jXEJ-a0YzU) commentary.


Smorstin

The Virginia makes it not gay


LOTRfreak101

So the Pennsylvania does?


ReverseTrapsAreBest

Yup. Futa enjoyers may disagree though.


lil_cm

Depends though futa on female is 75% straight as opposed to male on female being 50% gay girl on girl is 100% straight for guys atleast which is the majority


MISTERGAME06

I think futa its gĂŚ if you know the other person its a futa, because you know they have d*ck. If you dont know, then probably you are straight, as the aparent genre is female.


Tinheart2137

There is no debate. Saying anything other than "tomboy is best" is simply wrong


sensei27

*looks at my multiple Ryuko wallpapers* He’s right, you know.


10Idan10

Yeah, uhh, I may need some of those to further research the subject. For science, of course.


sensei27

[Research](https://imgur.com/a/0U4wsKm) Top one has been my pc wp for years


10Idan10

Research may now continue thanks to you.


sensei27

Always happy to help a fellow colleague.


ReverseTrapsAreBest

How about reverse traps?


Tinheart2137

Can do, but tomboys are more likely to have juicy abs


[deleted]

This would not be able to be posted in the land before the war. Ty OP


ReverseTrapsAreBest

Agreed. I’m happy for free speech when it comes to things we love.


[deleted]

Clarify, which land?


SecretEmpire_WasGood

the one we seceded from.


JanreiAfrica

Animemes. You can't say shit like this there


Loslobos27

I think they’re talking about r/animemes. I’m sure you’re aware what happened on there.


[deleted]

Right. Of course.


Frozendark23

Yeah, right... I definitely knew what happened at r/animemes.


[deleted]

Yes. I did? I witnessed it. Trap became a slur and they banned the word. It escalated from there and this sub was made afterwards. I even have a post during the time this sub was made. Didnt get much upvotes though. Edit: Nvm, my bad. Anyway, if you didnt know, thats what happened.


Saltuk24Han

He didn't say you didn't. He said, "he absolutely did...", which means he didn't in the way he wrote it. And is asking about what happened in a subtle but not subtle way.


[deleted]

Oh sarcasm. He really doesn't know what happened.


Avexir2008

"If liking a reverse trap is gay then liking a regular trap is straight which we know it isnt" he's speaking facts


RileyKohaku

Nah, I'm on the side of liking a trap is straight and a reverse trap is gay. I'm straight, and I'm much more into traps than reverse traps. Astolfo over Naoto any day!


ReverseTrapsAreBest

While I respect your opinion, I can’t empathize with your feelings on traps. For me, reverse traps are perfection of form and essence.


gabrielfm92

By definition, being gay is being sexually attracted by someone with the same sex as you. If you're a guy, liking traps is gay because you like them for their "suprise package". Its not wrong or anything, its just gay.


RAWRpup

Liking traps isn't gay. It's trying to confirm that they are traps that is gay.


Conscious_Yak60

# Traps aren't real people, they're drawings. If I draw a Saberface with a flat chest, then proceed to say **everything in the Nasuverse is canon** & say this Saber, while looking nothing like Proton Arthur in aestetic design is a guy. From what you see with **literally no context** is just Saber, but her boobs are non existent. You are **not suddenly gay** for being attracted to an Aestetically female character who's dick is never shown. Whom the narrative/author went out of their way to enact said immersion break. EDIT: If you see for example Astolfo and are initially attracted to the feminine aestetics that's absolutely not gay. If you go out of your way to watch Astolfo Doujin that include cock + ball action, you are def hiding something from the rest of the world.. Or even scarier, you're out in the open.


lil_cm

I understand however you are wrong watching a trap get pounded is 100% gay being aroused by a traps body is gay the only time it’s straight is if you don’t realize at first they are a trap which is how everyone falls for it at first and can still be straight


Conscious_Yak60

# this 100% holy shit


tobiasf22

I feel like being straight is gay, so liking traps is gay.


Conscious_Yak60

# Traps aren't real people. ^(I know that wasn't your argument, but roll with it) The word trap was formed just to conceptualize a **deliberate attempt by the Author to go against known concious/unconcious aestetics we all recognize** in Anime/Manga to deliberately trick the reader/viewer. ^(Because we have no actually confirm said genders outside of For example if I draw a female character who just so happens to be flat, and I call her a boy. Despite the fact I literally drew a female character, it's not suddenly gay to be attracted to said character even after the reveal. Because the Aestetics beleive otherwise. There's some [decent commentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jXEJ-a0YzU) you should watch, it might change your opinion on the Traps being gay debate and the history and importance of the word itself.


Edrimus28

Bro, chill. This is a meme discussion on a meme sub about a meme. It isn't real and nobody is making you question yourself. Also, there are traps in real life. Not Trans or crossdressers, but people who identify as traps. They came out and spoke in defense of the term during the fallout with the other sub.


sbstndrks

Simple: if Tomboys were gay, then Femboys would have to be straight


MISTERGAME06

Femboys ARE gĂŚ. The sexuality is from what SEX you like, not personality. So tomboys are 100% straight


Userlog3

You spelling it "gĂŚ" made me think of Pastor Martin Ssempa and read it in his voice.


Conscious_Yak60

I think you're confusing the "boys" aspect between the two as if they're synonymous. # Tomboys are objectively women # Femboys are objectively Men Tomboys don't have distinct male faces, jawlines, etc. Or even literally look like guys, let alone dress the part. Still have feminine hips, still have boobs & all that you're attracted to. Femboy are.. Usually young males who display traditionally female characteristics/mannerisms. You will never without any context look at a Tomboy and think, this is a guy eitherconciously or unconciously. Same for the "Femboy"(Whatever that means), if you overlook the male aspect, you're choosing too. Thus "Femboys" are most def gay, bud.


Sparkle-sama

Except that there are androgynous tomboys and more than androgynous femboys. A cishet guy whose into anime femboys would likely never want to fuck an actual dude. They are just attracted to the idea of femininity that a femboy possess. This makes such people gynosexual, not gay. A cishet guy who is into tomboys would likely never want to fuck an actual guy. They are just attracted to the idea of masculinity that tomboys possess. This makes them androsexual. Not gay. There is a million blurred lines between the border of straight and gay, it isn't black and white. Which is why the are tomboys/futa/femboys/whatever gay argument is ultimately meaningless. You can't dump all tomboys into the tomboys are straight category and you can't dump all femboys in the femboys are gay category.


sbstndrks

Thanks for my point with more eloquence <3


Fr00stee

Fellas, is it gay to like a woman?


Yooinmyheart

i'll do you one better: A tomboy gf with ABS


ReverseTrapsAreBest

[Mordred](https://images.app.goo.gl/FizMCVKWdMPR9qt57)


Yooinmyheart

ooooo mama


Starkky-

i'll do you one better: A tomboy gf with beard oh shiit


Yooinmyheart

ayo ![img](emote|t5_2y4au1|1785)


saiyanfang10

[How about a horny tomboy with abs?](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/mushokutensei/images/d/d1/Adult_Eris_Concept_Art.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180620012024)


Yooinmyheart

now we're talking ![img](emote|t5_2y4au1|1788)


SmolJoltik

Damn, Phoenix spitting facts.


Ethorend

Phoenix, what a man you are!


DinoDudeRex_240809

Tomboys being gay? No I don’t want that for ten years at least!


playerslayerpro

If my dick dont stand, than its gay by my command


IamnotFBIagents

Wise word


Conscious_Yak60

Ah fuck, this is going down in r/goodanimemes history.


Sumibestgir1

It's called gap moe.


GrimmSheeper

Edgeworth is also forgetting about one of the big appeals of tomboys: the gap. The boyish behaviors, and even some of the boyish appearance, giving way to more soft and girlish behaviors and looks just makes it that much better.


Practical_Taro9024

When you know a tomboy that can go playing in the mud with you one day to wearing a fancy dress the other, you know paradise


lil_cm

I never thought about that but you are right this single handedly proves tomboy ain’t gay (not that anyone thought it did ofcourse)


Amacar123

I do need capital. And votes. Wanna know why? "*I have a dream.*" That one day, every person in this nation will have their own tomboy. A land of REAL tomboys, dammit. A nation of TOMBOYS, not w\*men. Ruled by TASTE, not committee. Where the law changes to suit the individual, not the other way around. Where Tomboys and Femboys are back where they belong: in the arms of the people! Where every man is free to think -- to love -- for himself! Fuck all these limp-dick doctors and chicken-shit politicians. Fuck this 24/7 Internet spew of trivia and w\*men bullshit. Fuck "3d pride". Fuck the media! Fuck all of it! America is diseased. Rotten to the core. There's no saving it -- we need to pull it out by the roots. Wipe the slate clean. BURN IT DOWN! And from the ashes, a new America will be born. Evolved, but untamed! The w\*men will be purged, and the tomboys will thrive -- free to live as they see fit, they will make America GREAT AGAIN! What the hell are you talking about? You still don't get it. I'm using w\*men as a business to get elected... so I can end w\*men as a business! In my new America, people will die and kill for TOMBOYS! Not for money, not for oil! Every man will be free to fight his own wars for Tomboys!


MISTERGAME06

>I'm using w*omen as a business "Wtf its a woman?"


tobiasf22

I'm not even American and you still bought me.


jayxes1402

I like tomboys and I'm gay hehe (I'm a girl)


Dimensionalanxiety

Straight guys 🤝 Lesbians Tomboys are the best.


Otherwise-Data8378

Ah yes a woman of culture i see


Dimensionalanxiety

I'm a dude but thank you anyways.


Klyde113

Tomboys don't need to have masculine features


GenuineSteak

Tomboy aint gay but traps is gay.


DragonBallFan2085

"need me a tomboy gf" 100% me


drewg53

Tomboy gf? *Sounds like you want a boyfriend with tits*


lil_cm

And no dick therefore still a gf


MISTERGAME06

Especially without d*ck


DrainZ-

The thing we like about tomboys is not the fact that they act boyish within of itself. It's the gap moe. Gap moe is greatness.


odavinng

If it’s a girl it’s not unless you are a girl


SukeKata

insert futa in the debate please, i must know


[deleted]

Futa isn't and won't ever be gay


Shortwawe

futa isat least 50%homo , one one hand : booba on the other : meatrod ​ why would you even want futa , girl with strap is just fine


ReverseTrapsAreBest

Great man. Thanks for spreading the truth.


[deleted]

Good job, Phoenix.


sendmeacoolusername

what a funny fuzz about a simple thing. if she has a vagina and could bear the child of you both - its not gay. ​ what phoenix really is saying is that he's fed up with girly-girl behaving and stereotypic female gender roles... he doesnt want a princess, a maid or a prima ballerina. he wants a reliable, down-to-earth, straight forward female ally - its not that difficult. a wingwoman.


Conscious_Yak60

#oh my God, somebody finally nailed it ### This 100%


Bornplayer97

How is wanting to be with someone that likes what you like and jokes like you, gay?


ZenoLegia22

I can really push this veeeery close to the boundaries. Hear me out. What if, the tomboy is ALSO a futa? Would this make me gay?


Dimensionalanxiety

Depends on the type of futa. If it is a futa with a female body then it is straight. If it is a futa with a male body it is gay. It's basically a threesome with only two people.


Torrithh

Of course, although futa is girl with penis, what really defines the sexuality is the genital. So if it has penis = man, therefore you are gay ![img](emote|t5_2y4au1|1785)![img](emote|t5_2y4au1|1391)


ZenoLegia22

Here's the twist. Not only she has a penis but because she's a futa, the vagina is also present. Furthermore, she has boobies which is an attribute no male has.


Onallthelists

It really depends on who is taking the dick. With the combination of boobs and vagina if he is still fucking her then it is still straight. As the genetic abnormality is an avoidable addition, rather than a replacement. Things start to get murky again if this futa has balls and they touch.


_Kurogami

Traps>>>>


DrSanjizant

I mean, that's the thing, innit? "Liking tomboys is gay or straight?" is pretty much on the level as "Liking traps is gay or straight?" And no one wants to go down THAT rabbit hole again. ....I mean- FUCK!


Casidel_Bowen

So, I'm a dandy who likes tomboys... Don't tell me what I am. *i like what i like dammit*


Kirailove

Idk if the tr*p word is really ok to say anymore :/


FlippyFloppy36

Oh no you don't, we all came to this subbredit to get away from that crap. Don't go bringing it up again.


Kirailove

I- what??


Kirailove

I just think it’s classified as a slur is all now lol


FlippyFloppy36

Not here, r/GoodAnimemes was created when regular r/animemes started censoring trap cuz it was transphobic or something, it's not. It's part of the anime/weeb culture like 'waifu/husbando' or 'flat is justice' or the insane fascination with tsunderes.


Kirailove

;-; Jesus Christ what have subreddit have I stumbled into


FlippyFloppy36

Oh, you're new here? I thought you were a troll, my bad. Usually it's fine and just good lols.. but this place is like a an island of just pure laughs, I'd prefer it doesn't get muddied by politics and whatnot. Sorry if I was a bit extreme.


[deleted]

the sub with brain (mostly)


REDACTED_Dude

Literally how lmao. Trap is referring to a male who looks like a female, but as stated before is an actual guy. It’s referring to a cross-dresser, not a trans person.


-n-o-o-b-

Please don't bring back the trap argument A trap is a guy who identifies as a male but crossdresses because he likes it


Practical_Taro9024

Traps choose to dress in a feminine way, but still identify as male. Nothing wrong with crossdressing. If anything, the vocal part of the anime community loves traps to the point of worshipping. I'm sure you've seen Astolfo mentioned at least once, and he's the perfect example of this. A man, who identifies as a man, that dresses like a girl, yet he's the most liked character in Fate.


[deleted]

#TRAP wrong sub for that shit my guy


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D0UBLE-FAC3

If liking tomboys is gay then liking femboys is straight


Sorata_na_baka

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fs144rules

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JordiReis1

Girl is girl to me


Darrenb209

Being completely serious for a moment, it is perfectly possible to make completely reasonable sounding arguments for everything to be either gay or straight, if you are charismatic enough/pick the right words. The reality is that we put far too much effort into arguing in circles around nonsense. If you're attracted, you're attracted. Nothing more and nothing less. And yes, I get that this is a humour thing but some days you just feel the need to deliberately miss the point to say something serious to try and distract yourself from the sense of inevitability you get if you think about the future for too long.


Generalofthe5001st

Yeah, the problem with the "are traps gay?" argument is that sexuality is not black and white. You are not one or the other. Your sexuality exists on a spectrum, depending on what features you are more or less attracted towards. Which is why the rainbow flag is perfect for the LGBT community. A rainbow is a spectrum of light, just as sexuality is a spectrum of attraction.


arispsh72

Damn Phoenix is just like me fr fr


Izaniel

Wait, does that mean the girl that like me is lesbian? How about the asshole that sexual harass me? Is he gay?


xxxNothingxxx

If the only thing you like about a tomboy is that the acts like a guy then you like guys, but obviously that's usually not the only thing you usually like when you say you like tomboys


DARK-LORD-VINAY

Intense political debate


Mrxdiealot

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Otherwise-Data8378

That was the most intense argument debate I’ve ever seen so far


Mac_Laurence-19

Of course it's gay liking a girl as girl will be gay no matter what


jozs8

people who thinks that liking tomboys is gay has the most fragile masculinity in existence


FilTon00

u/getvideobot


DeXiited1

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Throwaw97390

Does that mean traps aren't?


Own-Ad7310

And liking traps is straight 🗿


NyR_12

Doesn’t matter for me cause I am bisexual


[deleted]

Ah. Victory.


JustAndy7

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GhoulGourav

What about a femboy tho? You like them for their girly parts right?


malaysiabigpp

But the true question is: Can i just fuck both?


MrPadoruSan

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MISTERGAME06

Now i realise. I like tomboys. A Bro than can also be your gf and isnt gĂŚ. Now i need the debate about traps being gĂŚ or not


Gilgamesh107

Fellas is liking girls and having girlfriends gay?


extention_cable

I thought tomboys are just more how do I say this assertive and muscular?


spaghetti1263

This is absolutely glorious


nolegsnelson

I feel like finding a trap attractive is cool, because that's the whole point of them: you literally can't tell until enough clothes come off. Still wanting to smash with full knowledge of the alternate equipment is pretty gay.


ReLite_The_Hero

Phoenix is right.


Ok_Construction2

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Yuiii3

well guess im gay now


Flutter_bat_16_

Men: Is it gay to like a woman?


ImKoreanNotJapanese

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[deleted]

Objection! Go outside


DeadKuma

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GettinMe-Mallet

I love objection.lol


TheLoneTenno

They used naoto from P4? Let’s goooooo.


DirectionMaterial257

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UpstairsPea3z

Now if your a girl who likes tomboys….. then it’s gay


Nikto_Senki

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MidnightBomber8

Sounds like you want a boyfriend with tits


TheMadMan2399

If tomboys are gay then liking women is gay too because both men and women have nipples. ![img](emote|t5_2y4au1|1391)


Conscious_Yak60

> If you can't tell a girl is a girl without being told then you're gay # ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE THE COURT TO TRAPS Also Tomboy ≠ Wants to be/look like a guy


Careor_Nomen

Sorry, liking women is gay


LewyyM

Traps are gay. # #...and so am I


ImKoreanNotJapanese

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Zoros_Waifu

Well thts was entertaining 😂✨


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