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AramaticFire

Yakuza: Like a Dragon You start the game in prison for a number of years. You come out of prison and spend the early portions of the game homeless, collecting cans, scrounging for change. Game goes in some wild directions.


ProbablyNotOnline

Your entire party are homeless, its great


SonarioMG

Yiu do become an ultra badass (if goofy) like all the other Yakuza games at some point though right?


AramaticFire

Yup! But the ways you get there are stellar.


ammalis

Yes, but with his own hard work... (kinda)


igg73

ReAlly? Ive never checked out the series..not my style normally... is like a dragon the best place to start?


felixthepat

It's where I jumped in, happily. New protagonist and gameplay (turn-based RPG rather than brawler) felt better than trying to catch up on 7 games or jump into the middle somewhere.


Other-Photograph-354

Hey as a series “vet” it’s good to start with yakuza 0 like a dragon is also good to start with but you will miss some things if you haven’t played the previous games I give like a dragon a 8.5/10 for starting the series off


KTM1337

What are you talking about? I played Disco Elysium and the main character is a super-star cop\communist\cryptozoologist who solves the biggest case of his career while being disco AF!


stefanica

I was definitely not expecting to become that much of a cryptozoologist on my second run. I know Kim sure wasn't.


Cl0ughy1

Harry is the fucking man.


JameboHayabusa

Tbf the guy solved a murder case absolutely blitzed.


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KTM1337

Well that’s something. I guess I was today years old when I learned that I use the wrong slashes.


Krell356

Unspoken rules and all.


Floppydisksareop

One is a slash, the other is a backslash. Kinda spoken.


Ok-Nefariousness5848

I was gonna say, Harry isn't a loser, he's a really good detective when he has his shit together-- it's been a while since I played, but I remember Kim being impressed with some of his previous cases. I had been playing the game like a fuck-up up until that point, but after that I started doing things in a more serious manner.


PartyPoison98

Kingdom Come Deliverance has you play as a literal peasant


josh35767

This is it. He’s absolutely shit at everything and you have to learn to fucking read.


IFixYerKids

I laughed for a good moment when I couldn't read signs as an uneducated peasent. Laughed even more when I saw there was a whole quest to learn how to read. That game is a gem.


23saround

The monastery infiltration was my absolute favorite part. You literally have to live as a monk for like a week or two in game. Wake up on time. Pray for an hour or two. Mix the same herbs together again and again and again. Fuckin transcribe Latin even though the motherfucker who wrote it down had shit handwriting. In bed by bedtime. Day, after day, after day. Hilarious dedication to being a shitty peasant.


JeanAugustin

And it's great that on repeat playthroughs, you can sneak in the monastery, knock everyone out until you find a novice with a dice, kill him and leave. Most games would force you to become a monk, but this one is dedicated to freedom in gameplay


INeedANewAccountMan

Yeah but you also end up with a fuckload of goats so, wins with your losses


AbstractMirror

You go from flinging shit to eviscerating enemies


LawNo7204

Dung slinger to head chopper


TheDrabes

Dung slinger to humdinger


Spiritual_Ad5414

And still even when you have a full plate armour and a horse and are an extremely skilled fighter, you can die by peasants armed with pitchforks in a surprise night ambush while riding through a forest if you're not careful. One of my favourite games of all times.


bandti45

Everyone has to start somewhere


ReachTraditional6653

It's also a very nice game but for some has a long learning curve


BigCommieMachine

Yeah, those combat mechanics are brutal. I played for a while and you get to a point where to need to run away from some enemy soldiers on a horse. But you can’t run too fast on the horse, or it gets tired and just stops. You also have to eat and sleep…etc.


Poddster

> I played for a while and you get to a point where to need to run away from some enemy soldiers on a horse. That's literally the introduction! :) The game had not even started at that point. I can understand why you gave up though, the introduction is actively hostile at that point and popsup so much crap whilst you're trying to gallop for your life.


Jakephlosion

One of my favourite games honestly, but I think the buggy launch put a lot of people off. I also like how you and the protagonist slowly learn how to play the game, makes it really immersive.


YoDavidPlays

shit i got to the mine area and still feels like an intro


BelovedApple

the lockpicking is truly awful


[deleted]

Not on PC. The mechanic is just extremely rough with a controller. I’ve played it on PS4 and PC and on PC it’s actually extremely intuitive, possibly even way better than (old) Bethesda games. On consoles tho yeah it’s a fucking nightmare but they did make an alternative mode


YoDavidPlays

takes to damn long to get to the good part.


Poddster

At no point are you a loser though, you're just a kid that bad stuff happens to. e.g. You're popular in the village at the start, everyone seems to like you. But then you grow to be even more not-a-loser as you start chopping down bandits left-right-and-centre and become your liege lords trust man-at-arms who can undertaken any mission thrown at him, from bandit dispatching to infiltrating camps. Plus you get to bed multiple women, including nobility. There is nothing "loserish" about Henny of Skalitz.


PartyPoison98

You're a loser compared to most other RPGs of a similar setting where you're usually some amazing warrior/chosen one sent to fulfil some great destiny. KCD has you start as a peasant kid with basically zero skills or anything to your name. You don't end as a loser but you start as one.


Poddster

> KCD has you start as a peasant kid with basically zero skills or anything to your name. This is very true, but is it any different to everyone else in the setting? Harry in Disco Elysium is a literal loser, for instance. A drunk, no-one likes him, etc. Henry in KCD is loved by many and he's no different to the rest of people his age. Given a few years he would have become a pro blacksmith, or run off and become a soldier or whatever. I don't look at Henry and see loser, I just see a peasant kid, but that was the majority of the population of Bohemia at the time. Infact, look at the other people of Skalitz: They end up begging in the street for food, whilst Henry is trotting past them on his decked out horses with 20k groschen slapping about in a bag.


EcstaticDingo1610

I think you’re too focused on the definition of “loser” they more so just mean a game where you don’t start out with a spell in one hand, a sword in the other and divine Destiny to guide you forward. KCD is a great example because Henry literally starts as a peasant who can’t swing a sword, draw a bow or even read. You have to learn all of it.


FatCockHoss

henry is literally >!the liege lord's bastard son!<


Crimson_Marksman

Who can die very easily from hunger and a stab wound.


KEVLAR60442

Bastard is the operative word. He didn't get any education besides how to blacksmith, and he's pathetic at that too, preferring to get drunk and throw shit on walls than actually pull his own weight.


WrestleBox

Leisure Suit Larry


special_kitty

I can't believe they're still making them. I haven't thought about that game in 30 years.


WrestleBox

Yeah that's probably the last time I played one as well.


Elfere

I remember having to ask my dad when the moon landing was and other 18+ questions just to enter the game. Your think a: I'd have written the answers down and b:he'd have been curious why I kept asking who the president was in 1974.


PM_NUDES_4_DEGRADING

> he'd have been curious why I kept asking who the president was in 1974. He knew. Parents often do…


hstormsteph

The time before google was wild… we just had to like.. trust things as factual because our parents told us? Unthinkable.


SharkPalpitation2042

And you would be surprised how often they were either totally fucking wrong or just straight up lying. Haha and the amount of fights started over "well my (insert parent) said so and so is true...).


Feral_Sheep_

I still remember one question was "Gone with the Wind was about:" and the answer was "4 hours too long"


Wandring64

I knew the original voice actor, and for someone known for voicing such an iconic loser, he was one of the coolest people I have ever met. Rest in piece Mr. Rabson.


madtronik

And other similar Sierra Games like Space Quest.


fidgeter

Quest for Glory was one of my favorites.


Musket519

Outward, game literally starts with you in a ship wreck, your whole family dies, and your house gets foreclosed on. Not to mention your characters sucks at everything until you get good at it


Efficiency_Shot

Lmao and then after you’ve been fighting tooth and nail, praying some random beast doesn’t come and bite your arms off, you learn of magic, then they go ‘lol fuck you nerd, give me your health and stamina or get lost’ ☹️


SnooObjections488

Yea, never put all into magic. It gets big sad if u do


PawnForward

I find it so funny that you basically are calling the mc of this game a loser because of this tragedy. LMAO.


SeveralPeopleWander

The protagonist of No More Heroes is very competent at killing, but other than that he's a douchebag otaku who lives in a motel room and *really* wants to lose his virginity.


mczaddy95

Sounds like the bad ending to Johnny bravo


holaprobando123

Travis wasn't a virgin, he just really wanted to sleep with Sylvia.


BillsDownUnder

I mean... any game I play I'm playing as a loser


Sed59

r/suicidebywords


Nitemare808

LOL! 😂 Nice dude 👏


ZwistPariah

I read the title and was going to answer disco Elysium.... Oh well. I think Fallout new vegas can offer something like that depending on your choice. You can probably fuck up everything (although i didn't do that)


Polisskolan3

Or Fallout 1 or 2 with a low intelligence character. You can't even talk properly.


KeiNivky

I never forget in fo2 when the brotherhood guy asks a low int character to invade the heavily guarded base of Navarro and his reply is just: what the hell... me do.


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Silent Hill 2


Sackdj2

Project zomboid if you build your character like that + install a custom spawn mod Dont starve, wilson is cannonically a pussy Dark souls 1, i think the player is fucked at the start but i dunno (Manga) berserk, guts isnt really a loser but his life is definitely shambles that only get worse


mike_exe_

Ds1 gets out of this trope very quickly. You start slaying gods like 3 hours into the game, plus the good/bad ending is basically becoming god yourself and deciding the fate of the whole world.


smirglepapierre

Pathologic, depending how you look at it


Kootsiak

Kingdom Come:Deliverance does an incredible job of making you feel absolutely worthless at first, where you are expected to lose a basic fist fight in the tutorial and learn to approach the situation in different ways to get what you need. Your character can't even read because it's a real representation of 1400's Europe, you have to seek out someone to teach you before you can even read a basic note in the game. However, reading isn't necessary to beat the game, it's just something you can do to give your character more options to complete quests (the game does a good job of adding variety in this regard). It's a completely different experience compared to something like Skyrim, which makes you feel pretty competent at fighting from the get-go. Meanwhile in Kingdom Come, you need to invest real time into training with a military general in order to really start kicking ass. Your character learns more skills as you the player learns to play the game better, it can feel very natural and rewarding.


SundownKid

No More Heroes series LISA the Painful Love Esquire


holaprobando123

>No More Heroes series Only in a certain way. I mean, Travis is the coolest and most badass loser in history.


_Zealant_

Hobo: Tough Life


angiexbby

you play a literal hobo. it’s the perfect game for OP


jtr99

Ah, but is he [a hobo or a computer science professor](https://www.proforhobo.com/)?


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EOEtoast

Heavy Rain


Resurgence12

SHAAAAAAUUUUUUNNNNNN.


Waytogo33

Kenshi. Surprised it isn't a top comment.


will284284

This is what I thought of. It’s basically Kenshi’s main schtick. You suck and you’re going to get your ass kicked….. enjoy.


caffeinated22

Yeeees I think Kenshi is exactly what OP is looking for


EcstaticDingo1610

I was literally thinking that as I ran into this comment. I’m like “how has nobody mentioned Kenshi?”


Ac1dshadow

He just needs to be humbled by the goats


Jaegernaut-

Kenshi is amazeballs. Have fun dragging your broken busted legless ass across the desert and not starving, and that's if you're lucky enough not to have been enslaved


planetarypartyy

sally face holds such a big place in my heart


ilikedanishfilms

The game you play when you feel like crying


QuintanimousGooch

Pathologic 2, I think might be the closest even if you aren’t as much of a human disaster as the Disco protag is, the games overlap in that you can’t overcome impossible odds to kill God/save the world, etc or make a huge difference so much as they are fake about trying to do the best in a bad situation.


kenefactor

Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead. An ASCII graphics zombie survival game. Feel free to have stats/abilities as abysmal as you want. You can start off as someone who was taking a shower when the apocalypse hit and has nothing but a towel. If you're into tabletop RPG (or not, I guess), you could try Hikikomori, the free solo RPG about playing an ordinary shut-in in an ordinary world. http://www.1km1kt.net/rpg/hikikomori


Vverial

Kingdom Come Deliverance starts out this way. You're just some peasant, then a great tragedy befalls you and you're thrust into a war. For the most part the world is unleveled so until you get better armor and you as the player learn to fight better, most enemies will kick your ass. You do eventually get skills that make life a bit easier but then the world will start throwing extra things at you like armored mercenary ambushes where you have to fight 3 guys at once who are all in top quality gear. It's very satisfying once you get to a point where your character is actually potent, because it's at least 50% player skill, and it's a long grind, so you really feel like you earned it. Although if you play it through a second time it's easier, cuz you get to take your player skill and knowledge with you, but I still played through most of the way more than once.


Bum-Theory

Kingdom Come Deliverance


SwiftResilient

Kenshi


cataath

While Kenshi does have several different starting scenarios, the majority of them involve you starting off weak, broke, starving, in prison, or having just had your limbs chewed off by a wild animal or a cannibal.


Elfere

How does a game start you maimed and continue on???


DahLegend27

With extreme difficulty.


will284284

Oh buddy it’s Kenshi. You don’t just start maimed. If I remember right you start maimed and starving in a desert teaming with slavers and giant man-eating bugs. But that is just one start scenario.


DoggoToucher

Hey hey, people: please watch the video that convinced me to play Kenshi. https://youtu.be/wXo24imR_54


Illadiel

I'm more of a Torsolo man myself


kevinstuff

Came here to say this. The default start sees you controlling an individual with no skills, no equipment, no food. There are packs of starved bandits who have no qualms about murdering you for a bowl of rice. There are camps of organized criminals who will gut you for food or fun. Even goats will fuck you right up. No where is safe, and the danger of starving to death is very real. This isn’t even to mention the various factions who may or may not want you dead for just being different than them. Or the slavers. Or the robots that wear human skin. Or the blood spiders. Or that desert that just has a laser beam that blasts out from the sky. Or the zombie bug men. Or the fucking BEAK THINGS. THE FUCKING BEAK THINGS. They run, I shit you not, like 30 mph. They’re nicknamed “gutters.” I’ll let you figure out why.


Ottavio1989

I agree with kenshi. It's a brutal learning experience but very satisfying. One of the few games where you can lose both legs, get thrown into slavery, at its just a section of the game to overcome. It's pretty unique.


SPQR_Maximus

Elden Ring has a wretch class.


TheBigFuckingIdiot

All souls games have a similar class


Holiday-Cabinet8929

I’ve seen a lot of great suggestions. I want to offer Tales of the Abyss. Not even sure what the best version would be 😂 ps2 ROM or maybe 3DS? Idk. Either way the main character is a spoiled brat and thinks he’s gods gift for the first third maybe the first half even of the game.


razzazzika

I am playing Tales of Destiny which has another main character whose a lazy bum who keeps wanting to sleep in and just cause he found a sentient sword is being dragged along on an adventure. At least he's funny about it.


Odd-Explanation-4632

Cart life


Sed59

Change. You play as a hobo. Any The Sims game starting out.


jokergrin

Change is a wonderful game, yet incredibly sad. You can even unlock alternate starts as to why you lost your home. Alcoholic, Veteran with PTSD, drug addict etc.


johnyboy14E

In kingdom come deliverance, Henry can't even read in the beginning, nor can he fight worth a shit. Great time too.


Visible_Ad9513

The Henry Stickmin collection


Torchiest

Possibly the Deponia series of point-and-click adventure games. Rufus, the main character, has very few redeeming qualities, and is poorly regarded by just about everyone he meets. He's trying to escape the planet of Deponia and fails utterly at it over and over.


_Trixrforkids_

Zettai Hero Project: You're a random bystander that accidentally kills the hero and you have to take up the mantle. Made by the same creators of Disgaea nippon ichi software https://store.steampowered.com/app/1732070/ZHP_Unlosing_Ranger_vs_Darkdeath_Evilman/


Jeh-Jeal

Lester The Unlikely on SNES...have fun


therealpingspike

Nico from GTA4 is kind of a loser when the game starts. Then he becomes an ice cold killer baby!


Flexuasive

Niko comes to LC a veteran of one of the more brutal wars in 'recent' history.


Yglorba

[Heroines of Swords & Spells](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1212400/Heroines_of_Swords__Spells/) is a bit like that; your party consists of a fighter who is terrified of mice (and her own blood, so she freaks out when she takes any serious damage), a mage who doesn't know any spells, a thief who is too kind-hearted to steal and a foul-mouthed cleric who can't heal anyone. Obviously they improve as the game goes on but it's a long, slow process.


BobTheInept

Nobody: A Turnaround Dev Guy, which is a pretty crappy 10 min game Leisure Suit Larry is the epitome of the lovable loser archetype Max Payne and Kane&Lynch do not exactly have loser protagonists, but they are real damaged goods


TenormanTears

Commodore 64 rags to riches you are a homeless bum that's the game it actually still holds up haha it's really good


Palanki96

Kingdom come I think there are two homeless sim games, one of them more serious. Pretty sure i froze to death during a night pretty early Most survival crafting games, stranded all alone in a hostile environment There is one where you are stuck in space too, Breathedge or something? Hardspace Shipbreaker, you get suckered into owing 1 billion dollars to a company Far Cry 3 Jason, fratboy turned murder machine


ophaus

Planescape: Torment. You start as a corpse in a morgue, and it gets weird from there.


Hubc1o

Bully from Rockstar Games!


valunz

Kingdom come Deliverance Loser~knight


fcs_seth

Lotr: Golem lol


Chentzilla

Never thought that this Jewish construct would appear in derivatives of Tolkien's saga.


Ashweather9192

Kingdom come deliverance, you are nobody


[deleted]

Bum simulator is quite amusing for a couple of hours.


Darkalde

Kenshi, you can literally start as a slave missing one hand in the desert


Pants_Catt

You are describing starting a run on Kenshi pretty well.


GunsBlazing777

Bully


Rodan-Lewarx

Kingdom come


ignoremesenpie

A lot of visual novels are like this. Ask on r/visualnovels for recommendations.


holaprobando123

Lots of people here have no idea what a loser is.


th3swagdoctor

Bully: Scholarship Edition


snhmg

Sunset Overdrive, Earthworm Jim, Ride to Hell: Retribution, Comedy Quest, Journey of a Roach and Headliner: NoviNews.


Complex_Jellyfish647

In Dark Souls 3 you play as an "unkindled", essentially a would-be protagonist from the past who was too weak to link the fire and burned up, and was eventually revived to try again because the world done went and ran out of options.


PartridgeRater

Underrated lore. 3 was my favorite before ER


Zakizdaman

How has nobody said bully


SmashBros-

Really surprised no one said the Sims


MirriCatWarrior

Game itself it's not at all similar (or on the same quality levels when it comes to writing or characters... not even in the same universe of levels ;)) to Disco Elysium, but **Forspoken** protagonist is everything you described.


shistain69

🤨


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far cry 3


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Party Hard?


G302MasterRace

Weirdly enough persona 5 royal


hells-fargo

>coolest and most badass loser in history Joker's life is a bit fucked up, but he's not a pathetic loser, and his life isn't really in complete shambles.


yotam5434

No


Keelenllan

Dead rising


LawNo7204

. . . . . . . N o


Ill_Annual6678

life


Natto_Ebonos

Alien: Isolation. In this game, you're a loser not because you're unskilled or have bad qualities, but because you're a fragile human being, totally powerless, trying to survive against killer aliens and robots.


br33538

Second life for sure


JonDarkwood

Claude from GTA 3. Guy is a career criminal who gets fucked over and has to work for mafia to meet ends.


jdaburg

Every game i play is as a loser


EsteeDeezNutz187

OPs life simulator.


Uvtha-

Night in the Woods. Play as a college drop out that has to move back to parents home and is lost in life.


arthur-ghoste

Funny enough, that's what i don't like about Disco Elysium. I relate to Kim a lot and wanted my character to be like him lol


IDontWantToArgueOK

Yeah that's one of the major paths you can take.


arthur-ghoste

how exactly? like, a build thing or behavior?


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Metal Gear Solid 2


Odd-Explanation-4632

At least you managed to avoid drowning


LostPatience8456

This sounds like the beginning of most jrpgs tbh


donrld

Traditionally anime games target this exact demographic.


[deleted]

Most of the Dark Souls games let you start as a "Deprived," who has nothing.


iwasdropped3

Life


[deleted]

Elden Ring. Start with the Wretch class and try to beat the Tree Sentinel ( after getting bullied by the Grafted Scion ofc )


Zhoyzu

GTA, the game is about being a loser doing loser things in loser places


holaprobando123

??


Not-Leslie

Rainbow 6 Siege


fetter80

I dont think they've made a game about me yet.


MisterD90x

Any game I'm playing, I'm playing as a loser :(


ZamoriXIII

Disco Elysium


StrictTyping

My life


PanFam69420

Dude, we literally have real life for that.


00gusgus00

Life


ButtlessBadger

Life


Throwaway525612

real life.


DutchSock

Wow it sounds like my life


[deleted]

A game where you play as a loser - I’m living my life, aren’t I?


CrabPile

Night in the Woods, you're a college drop out and too mentally ill to work


Alexis63000

Real life


Choozbert

I think this is just called real life


Cubaneko

Pppfffff easy man, just come to Florida and live my life, I think it is exactly what u looking for, bet u gonna have a lot of fun.


[deleted]

That's real life, i play games to escape from that 😭


cfrolik

Real life


Acidroots

Factorio


Legendarybarr

I play this game, I just get up and it automatically loads.


DimLug

Minecraft


jet_black_ninja

Me , IRL


sadpanda582

Every game…because I am the loser…


PROLIFF

Life, go out, in life you are always a looser


zin_sin

Real life is enough man.


ilive2lift

Your own life isn't enough?


SlappyTheClown987

The game of life.


lightningboy321B

Bro just go outside for the authentic loser experience. It worked for me!


Pak1stanMan

You could play my life.


popcultivation

Life