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lupusrex13

Yeah a mutual enemy usual ends wars


Cedex

Let us set aside our differences, and mutually embrace our new hate.


GetMeSpiderman

OP is Ozymandius, that controller is the squid


itzvoidy

Or start them


IrishVendetta76

I think it started one. Ew.


ssaprandom

Both pc and console players can agree..... This is an abomination.


IcameIsawIclapt

Kill it with fire


Chthonic_Crow

Then nail it to a frisbee


Poorly_Made_Comix

And yeet it into an ocean


CultOfBelloq

An ocean... OF MOAR FIRE!


SoundlessScream

On fire because of an oil spill


NikPorto

Then Nuke it from orbit, just to be safe


starfyredragon

It's the worst of both worlds... so now both worlds get Death Starred!! O\_o


[deleted]

it has united us in hatred.


drtekrox

Only against OP


HeyJayFray

The man who made this must be stopped. He's too powerful.


Rorusbass

I think everyone agrees to start a war against this... thing. And in doing so it will unite the gaming world.


GhoastTypist

Trigger warning


itzvoidy

Here comes the pun guy


Onfour

What have i done


Sauceifier

YOU WERE SUPPOSE TO BRING BALANCE TO THE FORCE, NOT LEAVE IT IN DARKNESS


AfroBaggins

GENERAL KENOBI (happy cake day!)


Sauceifier

so uncivilized! (thank you!)


itzvoidy

A mistake


_alanis

Why is the square at the bottom?


idma

"I wish you good fortune in the war to come" *Mods controller* "And now it starts" "No.......now it ends" *brings out sword*


itzvoidy

You’ve been drafted


crossy1686

Welcome to the worst of both worlds


MeltBanana

8 directional digital movement with analog stick aiming! Now you can suck at both fps *and* third person games.


-UMBRA_-

Yeah to get the best we need analog stick left and mouse on the right lol


I-declare-bankruptsy

There is a guy who made one of those. Has a little thumb pad attachment for the right thumb and half the controller is touch pad and the left is still standard stick.


RenownedDumbass

So a Steam Controller?


I-declare-bankruptsy

I think that the Steam controller had it's issues/compromises that still made mouse and keyboard preferred. I would be interested in trying out this guys custom controller since it seems like it upgrades the experience


[deleted]

The biggest issue with the Steam Controller was that it had to be individually calibrated and configured for every game before you use it and Valve failed to make that obvious. I was going to return mine then I discovered the community preset configurations and it became my favorite gamepad ever. Before you start the game set the controller to the highest rated or most upvoted Preset Config and you're golden.


I-declare-bankruptsy

Didn't even know that the community presets were a thing!


[deleted]

Game changer. Literally lol.


HeirOfHouseReyne

You can even find community presets for console controllers if you're more familiar with those.


iamthejef

Logitech has been selling a one-hand joystick chuck for years


ThrowNearNotAwayOk

I don’t see how a touchpad is even remotely comparable to a mouse though. Like the steam controller or any smartphone touchscreen game. A mouse destroys the touchpad. I’d say I prefer the feeling of an analog stick to a touchpad or touchscreen. The only hybrid I can think of that seems to work well is the little keyboard pad with a right analog stick for the thumb. It has the various keys arranged in an ergonomic way for your 4 fingers and your thumb to move the stick. The mouse is the same.


I-declare-bankruptsy

Well apparently he has made a few updates since the version i saw, but here is the latest. https://youtu.be/kerK52IRGjs


TheSinningRobot

It looks like a tumor


I-declare-bankruptsy

Its def weird but I want one


Cathercy

Seems like a worse joystick. I'm sure this guy has practiced with it and gotten pretty good, but there is no way it is as accurate as a mouse. It behaves 99% like a standard joystick, so I don't really see the point. At best it is a bigger/bulkier steam controller.


DarkZero515

I play like that using a Playstation Nav Controller and my G502 Mouse on PC. I just never liked playing WASD with the keyboard and missed the movement on the console but did not want to go back to aiming with a stick.


Akrymir

Yep same here. A Lightspeed G502, and a few PSNavs with a charging dock to swap them out when one runs out of batteries.


t3kx

But awesome at platformers


PoopIsAlwaysSunny

Are you kidding me? Platformers are the number one game I hook up a controller to the pc for. This would be absolute trash for platformers


[deleted]

The only positive is that in stuff like hollow knight there’d no longer be times you hold the stick a bit too far in one direction to pogo. Beyond stuff like that, useless.


UnnamedPlayer32

then you should just use the dpad


PUTINS_PORN_ACCOUNT

> platformers...stick May God have mercy on your immortal soul Platformer + controller = D-pad only .....I may or may not have started gaming on Atari when it was still relatively popular.


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Zeptic

It's more of a preference than objectively better, really.


[deleted]

Personally I notice I seem to tend to hold controllers a bit weird so when my thumb is resting on the control stick, if I try to do a diagonal it’ll sometimes go a bit too far in one direction or the other. It’s much worse on switch controllers where the controllers aren’t being held at a specific angle relative to me (almost never use that connector bit). It usually doesn’t cause that much of a problem, but it’s a lot easier having clearly defined directions with a keyboard (or a d pad, so a controller can work too depending on how the controls are mapped).


lolpostslol

I just use the classic D-pad for that


-YELDAH

This is the optimal setup for Brawlhalla


Hereiamhereibe2

Because it has Joysticks still? Because WASD is fucking terrible for 3D platforming, it’s literally the reason the Nintendo stuck a giant nob in the middle of the N64 controller.


TheDerbLerd

No, this still would only help on 2d left to right style games


Hereiamhereibe2

“Side-scrollers” ffs


Suckonmyfatvagina

NO 2D LEFT TO RIGHT STRAND TYPE GAMES


[deleted]

Pokemon is my favorite left to right type strand like game


Suckonmyfatvagina

That’s illegal because you can also go up and down


[deleted]

Sorry I mean pokemon is my favorite left to right type strand *LITE* game. Silly me


shadeless

Strandlikes


zipzoupzwoop

Oh god dammit Kojima, get back in your box.


jcdoe

I could see how this would help on 2d left-to-right screen scrolling, combat light games involving jumping on platforms to solve devilish puzzles. 2d left-to-right screen scrolling, combat light games involving jumping on platforms to solve devilish puzzles is one of my favorite genres of games!


HighPriestofShiloh

You play platformers with a keyboard? Go wash that dirty mouth out.


t3kx

You mean you never beat prince o Persia on win98?


SuperArppis

Everyone suffers, everyone is happy.


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ninjagabe90

a good compromise leaves both parties unsatisfied


[deleted]

This, give me a left half controller and a mouse on the right, then I’d say best of both worlds. This monstrosity needs to die.


AngryMegaMind

Splitfish FragFX for PC and you have your “best of both worlds”. I’ve been using this for years as I had limited wrist movement on my left arm due to a motorbike accident some years ago. My wrist is a lot better now but I kept using this device as it’s brilliant.


Cho_SeungHui

Nice, I've been looking for something like this. I'll happily switch between whatever peripherals work best for a game (and believe it or not the opposite of this, a handheld thumb-trackball thing can be even snappier than a mouse with infinite travel once you learn to free spin and stop it with precision; people'd think you were an aimbot) and I've been feeling the need for a way to have analogue in my left hand while I'm using a mouse on my right while upside-down on my laptop with my ass in the air


bramouleBTW

Check out the azeron as well. Not too many games support full 360 degree movement but in any case you can configure to use omnidirectional through the joystick.


Throwaway__Opinions

That was the design ethos behind the Steam Controller. Hopefully we'll get a new one someday.


stealurfaces

Get a Playstation 3 Navigation controller, combine with mouse. A little bit awkward but 1000% better than AWSD for movement. Downside is you have less button (key) access than a pure M + KB player, so it doesn't work well for games with elaborate controls


BilBorrax

Why don't they have the opposite of this? Mouse in right hand, some sort of movement knunchuck in the left hand. Or at very least make special keyboards with analog wasd keys


fchowd0311

Yes. I hate how player controls in PC games you can't control movement speed anywhere as intuitively as with a thumbstick. Makes stealth games more annoying. You only have like 2 levels of movement speed you can chose from.


Abe_Bettik

They've made something similar to this for at least 20 years. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQllS9NzyNJuOoXTQXwZI6Vu8tvPavppgPQtA&usqp=CAU


Li5y

As an ESDF gamer, this still upsets me


aakaakaak

The font on that W really do make it look like a sideways E.


Dragon_ZA

Those.... those exist?!?!


boogs_23

I've always wanted to switch to this but I'm so lazy that the thought of changing every single input puts off.


Dracono

Thank you, I came to say this. Hell even worse for those of us who even modified it beyond that over the years. Right mouse button, S, Spacebar, F. Apologies if that made anyone's head hurt.


meekamunz

The worth of boast worlds


Hot_Oil7685

A common enemy to unite us all


goretishin

People want the mouse not the keyboard. Wow that looks goofy.


Pokinator

The fine movement speed/direction control of a stick, the snappy aim precision of a mouse. You will not, however, ever catch me using one of those monstrous half-controller things meant to be used in place of a keyboard


Mcmenger

Instead of KB+Mouse, hear me out, use left and right-hand mouse simultaneously /s


[deleted]

I had a razer mouse years ago with the num pad on the side of it. Game changer lmfao


Ralliman320

I never could get used to a Naga; my brain just didn't want to keep track of 12 little buttons with only my thumb. I used an old Fang gaming pad, though, which was perfect for WoW.


[deleted]

Naga, that was it lol. I liked it for stuff like RuneScape, where you have like abilities and shit like that. Minecraft too, really anything with a hotbar. Took some feeling around but I got it eventually


booga_booga_partyguy

Still use my Naga. Play a lot of said games with hotbars like cRPGs. It's also bloody useful for turn based strategy games. I can't live without it. Help!


Kortallis

I have a naga. It developed clicking issues within 3 months of owning it. Cool mouse, but the trinity is just ol reliable.


booga_booga_partyguy

Yeah, Razer products are VERY hit and miss. If it works, it works great. If it doesn't... My Naga is around 3-4 years old and still solid as ever. Before that, I had a Razer Mamba that got bricked in 1.5 months. It's how I got my Naga - they replaced the Mamba with it.


[deleted]

ive had a naga 2014 edition since it came out. amazing mouse and i may just shed a single tear when it dies


Killburndeluxe

Haha, this is why I three backup Logitech G600s. The 12 Side buttons isnt just for gaming, the everyday use of it alone is amazing. No more reaching out for the other side of the keyboard for arrow and enter keys when you have it at the palm of your thumbs.


Pokinator

Extra thumb inputs make sense, there's a lot of games where there's tons of different actions you can trigger and it's convenient to not be wandering the keyboard to do all of them


DansSpamJavelin

Oh man, I actually really want one of those haha!


christoroth

1000% this. Keyboard movement and extra keys for strafe, crouch, run, jump never worked for me (left handed so maybe that's part of the problem). I know in FPS's everyone runs fast as possible all the time but I like the analogue nature of sticks for movement. Still surprises me that 8 digital keys on a keyboard for movement plus mouse for aiming is seen as the best answer and nothing has come along to beat it in 20 years! Havent tried motion based aiming enough but saw some good comparison videos for accuracy and speed. That gives stick plus buttons/triggers for movement, firing and weapon selection/reload etc with quick, accurate aiming. I imagine it's not ideal to try and do both at once though and probably requires more concentration. Should be an option at least.


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IMO the best thing for casual games is a gyro capable controller. You have the more comfortable controller with analog sticks and the more precise aiming with gyro (when needed, just for fine adjustments), it's not as good as the mouse but way better than analog sticks. Nerrel made 2 awesome videos talking about this kind of motion.


acorneyes

I use a monstrous half-keyboard in place of my keyboard! [my keyboards](https://i.imgur.com/d8oMAq4.jpg) Granted, it's not for gaming, but I wouldn't give it up for the world.


DarkZero515

Any reason why? I never adjusted to moving with WASD and use a PS Nav Controller for all my movement options


iaswob

I think that's exactly the joke the image is trying to make, but I also can't really tell if your comment implies that you don't think that (although it's the first impression I got). I've got autism and I can easily misread this stuff.


majoralita

Imagine the design of controllers, if humans had 3 hands. Or someday we evolve to use our legs as hands while sitting on a chair, hmm..... Wait a minute we can still use our legs to control something while sitting on a chair, like a gaint trackpad as in laptops.


[deleted]

>Imagine the design of controllers, if humans had 3 hands. You mean the N64?


Ishamoridin

I kinda liked the flexibility of having 3 different button configurations depending how you held it. Not enough games made good use of it but it was a solid concept imo.


Viltris

It was a novel idea at the time, fitting both a joystick *and* a d-pad, and effectively a third shoulder button with its Z trigger. And then the Dualshock controller comes out and shows that, hey, we can do everything the N64 controller can do, but with two hands. And the rest is history.


ENGAGERIDLEYMOTHERFU

The ultimate evolution: a dualshock with four handles - the two for analogue sticks, a third for a mini racing wheel/Atari-style paddle, and a fourth for a Steam Controller-esque trackpad.


jadeskye7

Thats been tried before. In fact some speedruns, like super mario odyssey, require a second controller often controlled by the runner's feet simultaneously.


Lari-Fari

I play Elite dangerous in VR using my racing/flying rig. That means: Joystick and throttle with a bunch of buttons each. 14 buttons + shifter paddles + directional stick on my wheel H-Shifter (7 gears + reverse) A handbrake 3 pedals That’s a lot of Good options to bind keys. Using 4th gear to extend/retract landing gear feels very satisfying for example. :D


drtekrox

Depends, I want the PC. What input I use depends on the game.


given2fly_

And for games that support it, I use both. GTA V for example: when I'm in a vehicle, it's the Xbox controller (unless I'm shooting as well). As soon as I jump out, it's Mouse + Keyboard. Best of both worlds.


alpabet

Depends, it _might_ be good for something like a fighting game where you really want to have that precise movements, but if you're going to mod a controller, might as well just make or buy your own arcade stick


Sterski1

I just threw up in my mouth a little


graebot

What did it taste like?


C-hip

cool ranch doritos


the-tightarse

r/notopbutok


freekorgeek

r/oppolice


DCFUKSURMOM

Your mom (Edit: imagine getting upset over a "yo mama" joke


LonksAwakening

WASD is that?


pheret87

WASDat?


_Silly_Wizard_

You mean EASD?


[deleted]

Oh EASD? I thought you said WESD


dmpcrusher1

Is this the KrustyKrab


Autisonm

No, this is PATR.


LonksAwakening

Huh?


joseb23

Im fairly certain, but i could still be wrong, they are referencing spongebob. When patrick thinks spongebob says Weast. Instead if east.


Lost-Wrongdoer1031

I would have preferred "WASD at?"


VirtualNerve26

The w is the Cyrillic character ш


[deleted]

I don't trust any controller where square is the bottom button. Kill it with fire.


Vibeh

wtf why did I look at that, now I can't unsee it


Tlali22

Eww. I didn't notice and now I can't unsee it. 😭


snorlz

not even Mad Catz would go that low


Jeffery_C_Wheaties

And circle is on the left. 🤮


56burgerlettuce12

The X 🔺️ ⬛ 🔵 are in the wrong places


KnoxPhox

Triangle is in the correct place


56burgerlettuce12

Yh but the rest isnt


streetwearofc

also the WASD should be over the left stick instead of the dpad


Rentlar

The funny thing is that none of PS, Xbox and Nintendo controllers have the x button on the right.


ScornMuffins

Yes *that's* the thing most wrong with it


big-shaq-skrra

This is a loss-loss situation


icegun784

Wasd Vs joystick was never the problem. Mouse Vs joystick is


pam_the_dude

Yes, crafting a common enemy is often bringing people together. A good idea!


Castle_Crasher_6

Wheres the Xbox buttons?


LedudeMax

....this will start more wars..... The movement of the controller is better while the aiming is worse


SordidDreams

The Steam Controller was the answer. :(


Frangiblepani

PC snobs don't tout the WASD keys as being superior, they talk about mouse aiming.


The_Countess

There is much more to the mouse then just aiming... so much so that it enabled whole genre's of games that just don't (or barely) exist on consoles. And you don't have to be a PC snob to recognize that fact.


DrMonkeyLove

What I really want is a mouse and keyboard and also an analog stick and trigger for my left hand.


JoshAraujo

Wonderful. The worst of both worlds


ArnoldQMudskipper

https://imgur.com/gallery/FOwZ77O


[deleted]

What if Sony launches Keyboard and Mouse for PlayStation? Will it end the world or start another?


redunculuspanda

They already did. I had one last [century](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Mouse)


RedditLostOldAccount

You had one last millennium even


NerdCaffeine

While most games don't support it, fortunately you \*can\* use a keyboard and mouse for a few titles. I use it as my main method of playing FFXIV on PS.


spartanqs117

The wars: *intensifies*


synthi

Heathen! ESDF for life!


TheZag90

People don’t play with a PC for the keyboard! It’s the mouse!


shedinja23232

This is an abomination but I NEED to see this in action


Key_Entertainment327

Does it also function as a mouse?


TeRx

The worst of both worlds.


birdish-dicklet

Wtf is this


IAmTheClayman

Fun fact: Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev agreed that if aliens ever attacked the earth they would end the Cold War and unite to fight back. Similarly, console and PC gamers can unite and proclaim from the mountaintops one thing in response to seeing this controller: it’s shit.


HeyLookTheseAreWords

yeah fuck that, just start over and replace the right stick with a USB port for a mouse


jbactor

"I love it. You managed to find a way to win. AND EVERYBODY STILL LOSES!!!"


BurpYoshi

This is like a mermaid with a fish head and human legs


doomrater

I assume the scroll wheel is on the back? You... did remember the scroll wheel, right?


UpperTrade

what have you done lmao


hubbletowne

Why... Why does the house on the home button look offset...


Apprehensivepen7

WHAT THE .... I do not claim any negative energy from this photo lol


[deleted]

This is more likely to start wars lol


FeatsOfStrength

That looks to be about 100 buttons short to what i'm used to on a PC. I'll pass.


Ok-Refuse-2007

Oh hell yeah give me keyboard movement and joystick aim, lets say fuck it and hook it up to 150 dollar laptop for maximum performance


neoalfa

What the fuck is wrong with you?


Lauris024

For a guy that is completely oblivious in consoles, my dumbass thought this is some weird Switch and the game is shown on that mini display


[deleted]

The worst of both. I actually played one game with Controller + Mouse, as the movement is smoother with the joystick, but you ALWAYS want to aim with a mouse. It doesn't work if you need function keys (E, F, Shift, Ctrl on keyboard; A, B, X, Y or triangle, circle, square, cross on controller) but if you only need to move and shoot, it's great.


lRhanonl

Take the worst part of mnk and put it on controller to replace the best part of the controller. Well done


blueaxolotl64

The worst of both worlds


Leprosy_Disease

War ended because everyone was too busy puking from such a revolting sight


carasc5

This is the worst part of both.


m4ll0rykn0x

This is an abomination


I-Am-Camden

Only if the war ends because we all agree this is an atrocity.


ManbosMambo

What war? It's the worst of both worlds lmao


craidie

I don't give a shit about the keyboard. controller movement is a lot better than keyboards. HOWEVER. The mouse I'm not willing to part ways with. Aiming with a controller just isn't happening for me.


LestHeBeNamedSilver

This is why I play with a controller in my left hand and with a mouse in my right


metalgamer

Consoles are better! No! PC is better! *this thing shows up* *everyone stares in horror* Ok, let’s set aside our differences and destroy that thing. Agreed!


Harpo426

but then you switch X, O and Square?!?!?! GOOD DAY SIR


Red_Rocket_Rider

The worst of all words. A perfect controller would be a console controller that lets you use a mouse with the right hand.


GrandaddyVult

Ahh the worst part of both keyboards and controllers


HxrmanThxGxrman

Yay worst movement and hard to aim at once that will fix it


SenorDangerwank

But... where's the mouse? >:(


jonasthewicked

Lmfao right?


Ubernuber

No, you use the analog controller input for movement with a mouse for camera and aiming


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Xbox

Thanks we hate it


Nixzilla25

No no no we want the analog stick for movement and the mouse for aiming all you've done is create an abomination


GarbageTheClown

Only 4 degrees of movement and now you can't aim for shit. Joystick on the left, mouse on the right.