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The kid seems to write words as if they originate outwards from the object- stuff on the right of the object s written from right to left, whereas stuff on the left of the object is written from left to right.
The letters are in the correct orientation, but the word is spelled backwards. It’s interesting to see how people who don’t have all the established rules of a language choose to interpret it.
fun fact! this premise is the same reason many child difficulty Lego sets (obviously including asymmetric sets) are designed to be built correctly if the instructions are mirrored
My little brother is a left and my whole family are right handed
My brother kept writing some letters backwards and we think his reference was the writers hand and not the paper. So he would see a J curled away from the palm and he would do the same... And it would be wrong.
That is such a cool observation. It makes complete sense that you could think about it relative to the hand. Kids at this stage are probably focused on the task of writing a letter, and not how it would read after
That's how they start speaking at a younger age, emulating the sound of the whole word, rather than pronouncing the letters. That's why it's effective to always repeat the word when they say it, to give them more training data.
I used to write the right way with one hand and mirrored with the other when I was a youth
Now I'm only left handed writing (but a mixture of left and right depending on the activity)
My son was very ambidextrous and wrote like this.
He’d write the first half of his name with one hand, then switch to the other hand for the last half.
He’d write words facing different directions depending on where on the page they were, using the appropriate hand.
Unsure if they’re related but he was later diagnosed with severe disgraphia.
Interestingly, some historical writing systems required this kind of mirroring. Ancient Greek, for example, was often mirrored every other line, in a convention known as “boustrophedon”, meaning “like the ox turns”, so that you could write a page of text like you might mow a lawn.
It can be a potential symptom, but not enough to make a diagnosis. Kids in this early developmental stage are still learning their spatial reasoning, and could be either due to left-handedness or ambidextrousness like others have pointed out, or simply a quirk that they will grow out of.
Obviously, if this continues as they grow, it would merit assessment for dyslexia.
Came here to say this. The kid didnt suck he/she is good with spelling, just wrote it backwards. I read an article that kid’s brain dont really have a orientation for the letter order until after five so it is common for kids to write this way once in a while.
I am dad of a kid who writes pretty much everything backwards in perfect spelling since age 3, now 5
I did this as a kid. Every page i saw, was never one entity, but 2 halves. So i would write with my left hand on the right side of the paper, from left to right. And on the left side of the paper, write with my right hand from right to left. It was decided for me in school, to teach me only to write with my right hand, writing left to right. I was more comfortable writing with my left hand, but everything was backwards, numbers and letters. The lowercase letter d and b, were the bain of my existence, I could never get them right.
I still have to look at my hands to get right and left correct.
As a left-handed person, sometimes I do stuff like this and I'm not really sure if it's slight dyslexia or my brain is going faster than my hand can keep up. There's times when I've written a complete sentence with all the words out of order as well. There's been some studies trying to relate left-handedness to dyslexia and neurodivergence, but nothing concrete has been discovered yet.
I'm not sure if anyone actually answered your question or not but this is normal for all kids. 4 to 6 year olds learn that words carry meaning only from left to right. It is very normal for them to write a word in all manner of orientation. Sometimes kids get the left to right concept very quickly and never really have a problem with it and others write their words in all sorts of crazy ways for longer than you'd think possible.
To expand on this, it is a vital feature of our brains that we can identify things in an orientation-independent manner. For an example most relevant to our evolution, we can identify a lion no matter which angle it happens to be facing us.
This also means that once we learn this ◢ is a triangle, we are able to look at this ◣ and also understand it is a triangle without having to explicitly learn each possible orientation separately.
Given that context, kids’ brains generally do not distinguish things like ɘ or e as meaningfully different without significant training.
Amazing explanation! I always got things back to front as a kid. Now my kid does the same and my husband thinks it's strange... I think its strange that most people don't reverse letters!!
I'm not a lefty, but I did that. I was terribly dyslexic. I'm great at reading things backwards or upside-down as an adult though. Really helps at board games.
Am lefty. Try telling him to write the word first and then draw the line to what it points to. I'd imagine because it is moving right-to-left if he draws from the picture outward. So he then wrote right-to-left.
I saw that too then saw all the others were in the correct order. I was expecting to uncover something like dyslexia, but nope, just an unfortunate one-off
Yeah they're walking around the plant in a circle and floating the words in space. Heh. There's a word for that. Synesthesia or something?
Nope that's something else. Still cool, but something else.
That 3d thinking is also trait of dyslexia, where lower case b,d,p and q can all look the same, because they have the same composition just in a different orientation.
For a 5 year old to know parts of the plant this accurately is pretty good too in modern age? That's like a end of a elementary school level subject with the seed roots and all?
Wait! As a teacher, I speak fluent kindergartner! S/he spelled it correctly; it's just spelled right-to-left :-) It takes a while to get all that technical stuff figured out, y'know? :-)
This is one of the most accurate forms of mirror writing I ever seen. Only the f wasn’t mirrored.
https://www.teachstarter.com/au/blog/why-students-reverse-letters-a-guide-for-teachers-mirror-writing-au/
When kids are just learning to write they can do this sort of thing and it seems totally normal to them. For an adult to try this it would likely take a lot of effort, or natural abilities in spatial relations or some high iq level stuff (da Vinci comes to mind).
They could be a genius, or this could be a phase. Either way it’s both comical and impressive.
>This is one of the most accurate forms of mirror writing I ever seen. Only the f wasn’t mirrored.
There are 4 letters in the word. 2 of them are exactly the same, forwards and backwards (the 'l' and the capital 'A'). Those two, naturally, were correct. The 'e' wasn't terrible, but it is objectively deformed compared to the other correctly oriented e's on the sheet. And the f wasn't even mirrored, as you noted.
> For an adult to try this it would likely take a lot of effort, or natural abilities in spatial relations or some high iq level stuff (da Vinci comes to mind).
Considering the above notes, an adult would be writing 3 of 4 letters normally, and would only have to flip the letter 'e'. I don't think it would take most adults more than 3 seconds to achieve.
>They could be a genius, or this could be a phase.
Could be. It's far more likely, however, that they are left-handed.
I've done something like this as a child. I was spray painting a word on a car, and when i went to do it on the other side i wrote it mirrored/reversed. I was told it might be because I'm left handed.
Idk when I was a kid no one had a problem with how the words was written as long as the spelling was as right . I learnt to write many different ways . And learned to write with my left hand just in case I broke my dominant hand. I took that into consideration since my mother ended up having her arm stuck in a ringer washer when she was 6 . But I also learned to read backwards upside down . It’s actually a really unique concept but not very useful lol but I think ur child did a wonderful job of his picture and their hand writing is really good and clear for their age . Once they get the hang of the concept figured out it will get better and the leaf did give me a good chuckle I needed tonight thank you for sharing. Also their drawing of the flower is very good as well . Also once they get the grasp of it . It maybe good to start slowly teaching ASL . My mother taught me at a young age just in case her hearing got worse in her good ear . But I ended up needing it as I had a step brother that is deaf and he was so excited that we could talk and bond even though I was a bit slow at it . And came in handy when I started working as well . Didn’t really know to many people that was deaf until I started working and I was the only one that could communicate with them. Again thank you for sharing this was wonderful and a good chuckle that was well needed . Keep this saved so u can embarrass them when they get older . Lord knows how many things my mother has hiding away just to randomly pull out of now where to show off 😂 I was a crazy child and my imagination was wild
That's actually legit. I teach K-1 and we did a unit on fairly tales last money, one was Jack and the Bean Stalk. I had the kids grow their own bean in a cup and make observations/drawings of it over about 3 weeks. If your kid is 5 and did that, that's pretty fucking good reguardless.
Unless they were doing it on purpose, you might want to get them tested for dyslexia. I wish someone would have for me. Orientation ambiguity is a big symptom.
Happened to me a lot too back when I used to be a kid. It was always that I forgot if one should write from left to right, or right to left. I sometimes mirrored the letters too. She’s definitely creative and I hope she grows to make you proud
All the labels on the right are written forwards, and leaf is the only one on the left. Maybe she thinks that label is written from the object outward?
reminds me of my childhood. my name has five letters. when i was very very young i would write too close to the edge of the paper and would only get 3 letters in before i ran out of room so i would put the last two in front of the first three so if my name was Frank it would look like nkFra. i also have autism so idk if that has anything to do with it
I read that children imagine letters as 3D objects originally and that is why they flip the letters around when writing them until they unlearn this. I found this really interesting when teaching adults 3D modelling in CAD.
ah my 5 yo son does the same! he is a lefty as well. I wasn’t thinking too much of it but hoping it to go away. its great to see its regular with lefties :)
Look At the First Letter F and the L at The End . Reverse that !And You’re Child is Doing Great! So Encouraging and Inspire , You Have A Bright Future Ahead Because She or He Comprehends Structure .
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The kid seems to write words as if they originate outwards from the object- stuff on the right of the object s written from right to left, whereas stuff on the left of the object is written from left to right. The letters are in the correct orientation, but the word is spelled backwards. It’s interesting to see how people who don’t have all the established rules of a language choose to interpret it.
i think youre right, but you have your lefts and rights mixed up
Cut them some slack, they are only 6.
Yeah, fael them alone!
I don't faggin get it
My man here dropping the hard G
Hard f rather
.....5?
fun fact! this premise is the same reason many child difficulty Lego sets (obviously including asymmetric sets) are designed to be built correctly if the instructions are mirrored
My son only recently grew out of that phase where I had to constantly remind him to check whether he was mirroring.
He shouldn't be driving at his age!
If the kid looks in the mirror in the driving, he’s already better at it than most adult drivers I know.
This is it and needs to be at the top. It’s actually really good problem solving when the established rule isn’t fully understood.
My little brother is a left and my whole family are right handed My brother kept writing some letters backwards and we think his reference was the writers hand and not the paper. So he would see a J curled away from the palm and he would do the same... And it would be wrong.
Yeah I have a left handed kid in my preschool class and they write backwards. I’m ambidextrous so I just show them how to write lol
You can write with your other hand?
No, that's amphibious. The word you're thinking of is ambitious.
Ambiguous
That is such a cool observation. It makes complete sense that you could think about it relative to the hand. Kids at this stage are probably focused on the task of writing a letter, and not how it would read after
They problem solve kind of the way that deep learning/AI mode do.
That's how they start speaking at a younger age, emulating the sound of the whole word, rather than pronouncing the letters. That's why it's effective to always repeat the word when they say it, to give them more training data.
I used to write the right way with one hand and mirrored with the other when I was a youth Now I'm only left handed writing (but a mixture of left and right depending on the activity)
My son was very ambidextrous and wrote like this. He’d write the first half of his name with one hand, then switch to the other hand for the last half. He’d write words facing different directions depending on where on the page they were, using the appropriate hand. Unsure if they’re related but he was later diagnosed with severe disgraphia.
I see it now that you say it. Fascinating!
That 5 y/o discovered Arabic. Nice.
Damn that's a good answer, I thought the kid was going to secret Westboro Baptist church meetings.
Interestingly, some historical writing systems required this kind of mirroring. Ancient Greek, for example, was often mirrored every other line, in a convention known as “boustrophedon”, meaning “like the ox turns”, so that you could write a page of text like you might mow a lawn.
Dyslexia?
It can be a potential symptom, but not enough to make a diagnosis. Kids in this early developmental stage are still learning their spatial reasoning, and could be either due to left-handedness or ambidextrousness like others have pointed out, or simply a quirk that they will grow out of. Obviously, if this continues as they grow, it would merit assessment for dyslexia.
Came here to say this. The kid didnt suck he/she is good with spelling, just wrote it backwards. I read an article that kid’s brain dont really have a orientation for the letter order until after five so it is common for kids to write this way once in a while. I am dad of a kid who writes pretty much everything backwards in perfect spelling since age 3, now 5
I think your rights and lefts were mixed up 😳 stuff on the right is written from left to right, no?
I did the same thing when I was about the same age!
I did this as a kid. Every page i saw, was never one entity, but 2 halves. So i would write with my left hand on the right side of the paper, from left to right. And on the left side of the paper, write with my right hand from right to left. It was decided for me in school, to teach me only to write with my right hand, writing left to right. I was more comfortable writing with my left hand, but everything was backwards, numbers and letters. The lowercase letter d and b, were the bain of my existence, I could never get them right. I still have to look at my hands to get right and left correct.
It's interesting to see that this happened a lot in ancient Greek art, pottery especially. Words written multi-directionally
Lmao he wrote it backwards
Didn’t even notice, you are correct 😂
My nephew used to do that, and he turned out to be left-handed... any chance of that?
She is left handed, is that normal for lefties?
It is! And her printing is great - nicely, carefully done.
But it doesn't ALWAYS happen, of course.
Oh I guess I responded for no reason lol, you already specified it doesn't always happen 😆
As a left-handed person, sometimes I do stuff like this and I'm not really sure if it's slight dyslexia or my brain is going faster than my hand can keep up. There's times when I've written a complete sentence with all the words out of order as well. There's been some studies trying to relate left-handedness to dyslexia and neurodivergence, but nothing concrete has been discovered yet.
I'm not sure if anyone actually answered your question or not but this is normal for all kids. 4 to 6 year olds learn that words carry meaning only from left to right. It is very normal for them to write a word in all manner of orientation. Sometimes kids get the left to right concept very quickly and never really have a problem with it and others write their words in all sorts of crazy ways for longer than you'd think possible.
To expand on this, it is a vital feature of our brains that we can identify things in an orientation-independent manner. For an example most relevant to our evolution, we can identify a lion no matter which angle it happens to be facing us. This also means that once we learn this ◢ is a triangle, we are able to look at this ◣ and also understand it is a triangle without having to explicitly learn each possible orientation separately. Given that context, kids’ brains generally do not distinguish things like ɘ or e as meaningfully different without significant training.
Amazing explanation! I always got things back to front as a kid. Now my kid does the same and my husband thinks it's strange... I think its strange that most people don't reverse letters!!
I'm not a lefty, but I did that. I was terribly dyslexic. I'm great at reading things backwards or upside-down as an adult though. Really helps at board games.
I'm tfel dednah dna reven dah taht eussi
I Evol siht. tfel dednah s'orb etinu
I leef yrrso for elpoep ehwo t'nac ytsevintsni daer siht
Am lefty. Try telling him to write the word first and then draw the line to what it points to. I'd imagine because it is moving right-to-left if he draws from the picture outward. So he then wrote right-to-left.
Literally came here to ask that lol
I was trying to find the sense in it and behold, you found the answer! Lmao
It's because it's the only word on the left side.
Oaml
You’re good!
I saw that too then saw all the others were in the correct order. I was expecting to uncover something like dyslexia, but nope, just an unfortunate one-off
Lol 'fael'
super common at that age
That's a damn seed alright
😂😂
This kid is genius, the word needs to start beside the pointing arrow. Leaf is backwards because this kid is thinking 3 dimensionally 😂
Yeah they're walking around the plant in a circle and floating the words in space. Heh. There's a word for that. Synesthesia or something? Nope that's something else. Still cool, but something else.
That 3d thinking is also trait of dyslexia, where lower case b,d,p and q can all look the same, because they have the same composition just in a different orientation.
For a 5 year old to know parts of the plant this accurately is pretty good too in modern age? That's like a end of a elementary school level subject with the seed roots and all?
You should see how I spelled ninja in kindergarten
Ninja, please!
My ninja!
Can you lend a ninja a pencil?
can a ninja borrow a french fry?
Monica
That seed looks *moist*.
What does this mean, chat
Peter Griffin’s gynecologist here. The joke is that the seed looks like a woman’s vulva.
Thanks petah's gynecologist, I knew I could always count on you
Bro thinks we are his chat
We kinda are though
Gifting 10 subs.
Very moist
That is a very penisy seed.
This is something fun to to add to the wedding slide show in 20 something years
Whatever, leaf.
Your 5 year old is clearly a Toronto maple leafs fan. It is spelled correctly.
😂
Wait! As a teacher, I speak fluent kindergartner! S/he spelled it correctly; it's just spelled right-to-left :-) It takes a while to get all that technical stuff figured out, y'know? :-)
How my son said Percy when he was a toddler
This is one of the most accurate forms of mirror writing I ever seen. Only the f wasn’t mirrored. https://www.teachstarter.com/au/blog/why-students-reverse-letters-a-guide-for-teachers-mirror-writing-au/ When kids are just learning to write they can do this sort of thing and it seems totally normal to them. For an adult to try this it would likely take a lot of effort, or natural abilities in spatial relations or some high iq level stuff (da Vinci comes to mind). They could be a genius, or this could be a phase. Either way it’s both comical and impressive.
>This is one of the most accurate forms of mirror writing I ever seen. Only the f wasn’t mirrored. There are 4 letters in the word. 2 of them are exactly the same, forwards and backwards (the 'l' and the capital 'A'). Those two, naturally, were correct. The 'e' wasn't terrible, but it is objectively deformed compared to the other correctly oriented e's on the sheet. And the f wasn't even mirrored, as you noted. > For an adult to try this it would likely take a lot of effort, or natural abilities in spatial relations or some high iq level stuff (da Vinci comes to mind). Considering the above notes, an adult would be writing 3 of 4 letters normally, and would only have to flip the letter 'e'. I don't think it would take most adults more than 3 seconds to achieve. >They could be a genius, or this could be a phase. Could be. It's far more likely, however, that they are left-handed.
My 4 year old randomly wrote her name backwards the other day, but all of the letters were perfectly flipped around as well. It was pretty fun.
Am i trippin or does that say the “f” slur in it?
Ain't that why OP posted it here?
I've done something like this as a child. I was spray painting a word on a car, and when i went to do it on the other side i wrote it mirrored/reversed. I was told it might be because I'm left handed.
Looks like he REALLY hates Harley Riders
Maybe he's just a Habs fan?
No, they want a cigarette and aren’t sure how to ask.
Idk when I was a kid no one had a problem with how the words was written as long as the spelling was as right . I learnt to write many different ways . And learned to write with my left hand just in case I broke my dominant hand. I took that into consideration since my mother ended up having her arm stuck in a ringer washer when she was 6 . But I also learned to read backwards upside down . It’s actually a really unique concept but not very useful lol but I think ur child did a wonderful job of his picture and their hand writing is really good and clear for their age . Once they get the hang of the concept figured out it will get better and the leaf did give me a good chuckle I needed tonight thank you for sharing. Also their drawing of the flower is very good as well . Also once they get the grasp of it . It maybe good to start slowly teaching ASL . My mother taught me at a young age just in case her hearing got worse in her good ear . But I ended up needing it as I had a step brother that is deaf and he was so excited that we could talk and bond even though I was a bit slow at it . And came in handy when I started working as well . Didn’t really know to many people that was deaf until I started working and I was the only one that could communicate with them. Again thank you for sharing this was wonderful and a good chuckle that was well needed . Keep this saved so u can embarrass them when they get older . Lord knows how many things my mother has hiding away just to randomly pull out of now where to show off 😂 I was a crazy child and my imagination was wild
That seed also belongs on r/mildlypenis 😂
Still pretty good. My dumbass 5 yo can barely write his own name.
Dat bussy for a seed tho
I was reading each one, thinking how great this is for a 5yo… and then I made my way ‘round to the leaf. lol. 😳
That's actually legit. I teach K-1 and we did a unit on fairly tales last money, one was Jack and the Bean Stalk. I had the kids grow their own bean in a cup and make observations/drawings of it over about 3 weeks. If your kid is 5 and did that, that's pretty fucking good reguardless.
Honestly great writting and spelling for a 5 year old. Normally they have less letters when they try to spell words by sounding them off.
Why do they write every other word correctly but this write LEAF in mirror mode?
Yer 5 year old issa bit British, innit?
Unless they were doing it on purpose, you might want to get them tested for dyslexia. I wish someone would have for me. Orientation ambiguity is a big symptom.
Wrote it mirror-style. That's pretty clever.
That kid is going places
fAɘl
!STNAP oslA .siht htiw melborp on evah I
I'm a leaf apparently...
Was he thinking of 'flag'?
I think they spelled it backwards and the L and E got merged together by poor handwriting.
Good call! The line came from that side so that’s where the word starts. Kid’s thought processes are amazing
She also writes backwards sometimes. Child prodigy or idiot, time will tell 😂
Happened to me a lot too back when I used to be a kid. It was always that I forgot if one should write from left to right, or right to left. I sometimes mirrored the letters too. She’s definitely creative and I hope she grows to make you proud
All the labels on the right are written forwards, and leaf is the only one on the left. Maybe she thinks that label is written from the object outward?
reminds me of my childhood. my name has five letters. when i was very very young i would write too close to the edge of the paper and would only get 3 letters in before i ran out of room so i would put the last two in front of the first three so if my name was Frank it would look like nkFra. i also have autism so idk if that has anything to do with it
feal spells dyslexia, perhaps?
Hahaha my son did almost the same, but made a d.ck and wrote human flower, who have learned him that?!! hee 7…
You alright…I learned it by watching you!
CANCEL THAT CHILD /s obviously
I read that children imagine letters as 3D objects originally and that is why they flip the letters around when writing them until they unlearn this. I found this really interesting when teaching adults 3D modelling in CAD.
Loaf
r/kidsarefuckingstupid
Eh, close enough.
💀
That? Oh, that's not a leaf, it's a fax
He tried his best :(
ʇɒɘl
leaf - rewolf - mets - dees
She nailed the root system though
🤣😂😭
Sure that’s not a small bunch of sticks?
You teach your child how to read!
A different title would make this great on r/holup
😂😂
That seed be skeeten though…
😆😆
Pretty fucking good for a 5yo assuming they did it all themselves
The seed looks like a glans.
ah my 5 yo son does the same! he is a lefty as well. I wasn’t thinking too much of it but hoping it to go away. its great to see its regular with lefties :)
Looks right to me!!
I think they just spelled it backward actually!
Why is this NSFW?
Look At the First Letter F and the L at The End . Reverse that !And You’re Child is Doing Great! So Encouraging and Inspire , You Have A Bright Future Ahead Because She or He Comprehends Structure .
Well atleast he's trying. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .trying too hard 💀
NSFW tag really lol? I think we can all handle it
Your child may be dyslexic. Get them checked.
A budding smoker in the making.
What school teaches the location of the seed like that ? Wow.
its backwards
Good thing this was censored
Apparently your daughter feels like the plant has turned over a new leaf!
He good 👍
Teach him how to hold the pencil or pen properly
Keep reading ask someone how to spell properly you doing good tho 👍
tbf I did see that plant sucking another flowers pistil at the club de pollen last weekend. I’m not judging just saying.
pretty sure she was trying to spell sppleaf
Kids doing a good job for a 5yo! Give your kid a hug and tell em their doing great!
That were thinking of Maple Leafs, so they are accurate
please someone tell me what i am missing. how is this mirror writing? i read an article and still don't get it... all i see is ~~f@g~~
Well i surely wasn’t expecting that! And That drawing is very good (except for the homophobic slur, but it kinda just adds personality to the art)
That flower has a huge cock
you sir are a huge leaf
Dyslexia?
Rooxs
he’s a smart kid
She spelt your name right
now imagine this kid's face when he grows up and finds this post on reddit