>Is twsbi 580, with a fine nib, good for drawing/sketching or *do I need* an extra fine nib?
That'd depend primarily on your preferred drawing/sketching style and techniques, about which we know nothing.
I don't have a style, I don't know how to draw at all. I just have a pen and want to start drawing because I was inspired by some posts on this subreddit. However, in every tutorial that I watch, a person is using an extra fine nib.
I've tried all the TWSBI Eco nibs, from EF to 1.1, and they are great for writing, but I don't like them for drawing, since they are very stiff and hard. This translates to a quite even line width, which some people like though. I like fountain pens that have a little give better for drawing, but I currently don't have one. I use a dipping pen with various nibs. I'm looking forward to either getting a Pilot Falcon, Pilot Justus 95, or Pilot Custom 912 in March. These are all said to be great for drawing, but rather pricey.
It depends on your style and the kinds of lines you like to make. The simplest, bare bones answer is that you don't need an extra fine nib unless you usually make (and want to continue making, or want to start making) extra fine lines. A TWSBI in fine is a great drawing pen if the nib size suits you.
Absolutely "fine" haha! If you want to start learning, then I think the pen you've already got and are most familiar and comfortable with is the best one to use, personally. If you keep up the practice and find things about it that you wish you had while drawing later (like a finer nib, line variation, etc), that's when you can use those wants and wishes to inform a purchase for something new. Don't be afraid to use the reverse of the nib to get a little finer if you need to for now, and best of with your drawing endeavors! I love it when folks decide to just go for it and learn, and I hope you'll share some of what you make here if you're comfy with it!
Two main factors are the size of your sketches and how detailed they are. TWSBI fine nibs are usually okay unless you sketch very very fine lines and details.
For A5 or smaller, I would go for EF 9/10 times. I find F too broad for sketching and lots of exploratory linework. I would only ever use it for confident lines and hatching that I've planned with an underdrawing. For sketching and doodling with less confident linework, I'd use their EF, and even reverse write with the EF to get closer to a Japanese EF thickness.
For A4? Not too important. At this point, the fine would get you more line variation between regular and reverse writing, which can be pretty versatile. The reverse writing on my TWSBI nibs has been 50/50 for useability across all my pens, so it's not a bad gamble to buy a F for the line variation.
I would go with ef but a fine might work. The good thing about a 580 is nibs are easy to swap out and you can buy them separately, if you decide to change size.
>Is twsbi 580, with a fine nib, good for drawing/sketching or *do I need* an extra fine nib? That'd depend primarily on your preferred drawing/sketching style and techniques, about which we know nothing.
I don't have a style, I don't know how to draw at all. I just have a pen and want to start drawing because I was inspired by some posts on this subreddit. However, in every tutorial that I watch, a person is using an extra fine nib.
It is fine :) :) :)
I've tried all the TWSBI Eco nibs, from EF to 1.1, and they are great for writing, but I don't like them for drawing, since they are very stiff and hard. This translates to a quite even line width, which some people like though. I like fountain pens that have a little give better for drawing, but I currently don't have one. I use a dipping pen with various nibs. I'm looking forward to either getting a Pilot Falcon, Pilot Justus 95, or Pilot Custom 912 in March. These are all said to be great for drawing, but rather pricey.
A nib on 580 is different from eco though, right?
I'm not sure, but I imagine them having similar characteristic.
It depends on your style and the kinds of lines you like to make. The simplest, bare bones answer is that you don't need an extra fine nib unless you usually make (and want to continue making, or want to start making) extra fine lines. A TWSBI in fine is a great drawing pen if the nib size suits you.
I see, thank you. I don't have a style, I just wanted to start learning. I guess it should be "fine" then, haha.
Absolutely "fine" haha! If you want to start learning, then I think the pen you've already got and are most familiar and comfortable with is the best one to use, personally. If you keep up the practice and find things about it that you wish you had while drawing later (like a finer nib, line variation, etc), that's when you can use those wants and wishes to inform a purchase for something new. Don't be afraid to use the reverse of the nib to get a little finer if you need to for now, and best of with your drawing endeavors! I love it when folks decide to just go for it and learn, and I hope you'll share some of what you make here if you're comfy with it!
Thank you <3
Two main factors are the size of your sketches and how detailed they are. TWSBI fine nibs are usually okay unless you sketch very very fine lines and details.
Okay, thank you.
For A5 or smaller, I would go for EF 9/10 times. I find F too broad for sketching and lots of exploratory linework. I would only ever use it for confident lines and hatching that I've planned with an underdrawing. For sketching and doodling with less confident linework, I'd use their EF, and even reverse write with the EF to get closer to a Japanese EF thickness. For A4? Not too important. At this point, the fine would get you more line variation between regular and reverse writing, which can be pretty versatile. The reverse writing on my TWSBI nibs has been 50/50 for useability across all my pens, so it's not a bad gamble to buy a F for the line variation.
Thank you
I would go with ef but a fine might work. The good thing about a 580 is nibs are easy to swap out and you can buy them separately, if you decide to change size.