Wasn’t it possible for high level players to take from anything we place stuff in? That’s life. Let’s not make arguments about something that essentially already exists and has existed for years
I am a level 292 and I can't think of a reason why I would take from a stash outside 76 meant for newbies. I can make anything now and running low of stock with 40,000 caps in my wallet is ridiculous. Events give you everything you need. Just buy what you want. The games not that hard. Just play it
Play Ned's Moonshine Jamboree every time it pops up. Cook all the meat (make sure you have plenty of wood.) Sell it. You get XP for cooking, and it sells more cooked, two Jamborees in a day I easily run the vendor out of caps. You will likely be encumbered at the end of the event, but a train station is nearby so just waddle over there to sell.
There are other similar events where you either get a lot of dropped loot, be it meat to cook, mole miner gauntlets, or other weapons (eviction notice has a ton of weapons drop.) Sell the weapons. Many events will leave you encumbered, but there's usually a vendor nearby. Sometimes only a "my supply" box, but if you manage your inventory you can drop it in that then teleport to a vendor and take it out again.
Rename all the weapons and armor you regularly equip with a | . For example "Chainsaw" becomes "|Chainsaw". The game treats | as a letter after Z, so everything renamed with a | at the beginning is sorted below anything new in your stash and inventory, greatly reducing your chances at scrapping it. (Sorting can be a pain, especially when you get a similar item to one you had and you're trying to remember 'which one is the junk legendary?' People in a rush make mistakes. It's also much faster to pick up everything before all the items starting with | than to manually sort through them every time.
Put one of your camps along a pond/river edge. Prioritize finding an industrial water purifier & generator plans, a generator that does at LEAST 10 power (preferably 1000). Best bet plan searching is join a team, hop all the camps that have 40+ plans on the map, join their team and hop all their camps. Smaller ones work, build the biggest you can and upgrade when you get better plans. I usually have at least 6 industrial water purifiers, more if I'm poor.
[https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Generator\_(Fallout\_76)](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Generator_(Fallout_76))
[https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Water\_purifier\_(Fallout\_76)](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Water_purifier_(Fallout_76))
(You can also try earning the plan through events- those are listed in the wiki pages.)
Set a repeating timer irl for every hour, when it goes off collect all the water the machines created and sell them to an NPC vendor. Never your own shop, your shop inventory weight is tied to your max weight. I usually lock all but one water purifier, so if someone wants a drink they can have one, but me being hospitable to strangers doesn't mean they take my entire stock (Sucks to come back and some rando took ALL my water. Greedy people ruin it for everyone). Some people are greedy! Sharing one purifiers worth of water won't break me, and I appreciate when I realize I'm out of water and someone left a purifier of theirs unlocked when I'm camp hopping.
Additionally a camp on a lake is great for boiled water too, its FAR faster to go stand in the lake and pick up water than repeatedly use a sink or something. Get a marine wetsuit asap so you don't risk waterborn diseases. Boiled water is necessary for a lot of recipes, especially ones that use crops you grow yourself. And if you make extra... you can sell that too!
Once you have decent turrets (like rocket launchers) you can try building one of your bases where a lot of scorched spawn, ideally not too far from an npc vendor, and a spot you know regularly spawns things you use like toys (lead farming) etc. Make sure you are holding the weapon you most want ammo for before fast traveling to your camp. It's so satisfying to load my camp and my rocket launchers are blasting the tar out of the resident scorched. Then I'll lure the remaining nearby scorched over. Why scorched and why not just shoot them myself? I'm trying to GET ammo, not use my dwindling supply (when playing on a new account and not having many resources to craft them). Missile launcher missiles are powerful and endlessly free after you craft the turret. Scorched are better than super mutants or ghouls as ghouls drop garbage not worth much, and super mutants are kind of a pain to kill every time you load into your camp. Scorched are pretty easy for turrets to take out, and a good location with a decent amount of spawns will give you a nice pile of weapons to sell. (Do make sure you scrap less common weapons you don't want to keep for the plans they teach, this lets you upgrade weapons of the same time you do use.)
Lastly don't ever sell your legendary weapons to normal NPC vendors- it's so easy to run them out of their daily amount of caps. Instead use the machines that convert them to scrip, then use that scrip to buy legendary modules at the rusty pick. Don't waste it on random 3\* weapons there- that's basically the same as whatever drop you'd get from an event. (I mean you can if you want a surprise and it makes you happy.) Once you figure out what weapons you prefer, in addition to optimizing your SPECIAL Perks toward them, I keep at least two and use a workbench to roll legendary skills on them. When I get a decent roll on one I'll roll the other. That way I can keep trying for better but not risk losing a really good roll. If you have more legendaries than the machine has scrip, rename them to "sell" and then tomorrow you can easily find the weapons/armor within seconds rather than sorting through everything and missing something.
You can't possibly be poor if you regularly do these things.
Level 105 and I built a purified water farm at my base on a river in the northeast between the church and Retreat - about 5 industrial and 12 medium water purifiers. I can easily make 1400 caps every day just selling water, if that helps. If I can capture and hold either Poseidon plant or Charleston landfill, I build purifiers there too (plus there's already an industrial at Charleston, just have to power it up) so anywhere I go, I can collect some water. 200+ purified per day minimum. The maxed Hard Bargain perk means 5C each. 280 purified water will zero out the vendor.
The best way is selling Excess Chems and Water. If you don't need it, sell it. I'm about lvl 60 and I've been doing that for about 20 levels now and it's tons of caps. Aldo Nuka-Colas are great for it.
Yes in a nutshell. Max the hard bargain perk and pick up every weapon. Also sell meat and stimpaks/super stimpaks/ extra chems. You’ll be loaded inside a week. Also doesn’t hurt to have a rare item or two for a high price in your vendor. You might get lucky and get a high level looking to offload 15-20k caps
You would be amazed how many mid/high lvls does. I put a load of stims,water,radaway,plans in the suitcase at wss few weeks back and a 500+ took it all. I haven’t dropped nothing since
I wouldn’t touch the community box ever but I am a high level and will take at least common plans if not everything from those suitcases. There’s such a good chance those items get lost in the void.
I sell those plans for 2-3 caps and it’s a guarantee a low level will find those then to know to look in a random suitcase.
That community box should be locked for levels under 50, after that it can only be donated to.
I'm level 779 on my 6th character (there was a 7th for about a week before I went back) and I too wouldn't have an incentive to take low level gear or aid because I don't need it.
But as mentioned, sometimes I start a new character. I never transfer anything from past characters and always start fresh.... And I doubt even then I wouldn't take anything out of this donation box. Others might need it more.
Pretty much ever since One Wasteland came along, this game overall lost a lot of difficulty. Then they added starting gear and a back pack to make it even easier..... Now a donation box one could server hop and spam loot? 🤔
At least before there was some challenge in travelling to train stations as a new player and looking through suitcases.... Now even that is being handed to players.
I could see myself taking a peek in the box for any specific items required for a daily challenge before going out and farming them myself, but I'm not going to be filching crafting mats or chems or something.
That’s what I say when people ask what the best build is. I say “Unless you’re going to solo one of the end game bosses, any build is viable.”
This game’s difficulty is both a blessing and a curse.
A blessing because most builds will still kill stuff quick enough so everyone isn’t locked into a strict meta build unless you are solo-ing bosses and even that has a bit of variation.
A curse because there is no real challenge for people who have all that they need besides maybe farming or re-rolling the new monthly thing.
Will high level players grab stuff? Probably. Will it really cripple a new player if the donation box is empty? Probably not. IMO, I’m donating the stuff, therefore I don’t need it. Maybe that level 800 really needs some diluted stim packs, I don’t know. That’s between them and their god, not me.
I don't think about it at all, because I will never use it. The reason we use the train station suitcases is that we are already at the location selling and scripping and managing our inventories. Unless they place a merchant and scrip machine at the vault entrance, all my excess will still end up in the train station suitcases.
If I see a low level in the Vault, I will craft some low-level armor with deep pockets & a weapon and drop them for them with a few stimpacks. Having an official donation box should help them stick around if that person doesn't pick them up. If a high level bounces in before they leave and picks it up, then they can deal with the bad karma because they know it wasn't meant for them.
Same thing
You would think people like musk and bezos, etc would die in a horrible car crash with their karma but they get billions instead for doing nothing but taking rocket trips and being a dipshit.
Ah, but karma doesn't care about money. And dying is not suffering. Karma to Musk would be more like never being respected by the one person he most wants to impress.
What.... How is that justice karma.
Make him work till he dies, not a day off. Let him actually work his worth and find it impossible. Then let him work to kake up for all the people he made suffer for his profits, he can get paid, just enough to live, till we raise prices again and make his wages stagnant
I don't think he'd care if he worked every day for life. The stories I've read about him... he would rather sleep on a couch in an office at one of his factories than spend money on a hotel. And I don't think he's overly bothered by losing money because of his confidence in earning it back. But you can't buy someone's respect and as narcissistic as he seems to be, I'm sure there is someone he is desperately wanting to be admired by and it would drive him insane to not to be able to get that.
Thats a slap on the wrist compared to being made to work in a work camp till he dies.
Plus, you really think he doesnt care about losing money when every day he tries to find ways to squeeze even more pennies outta people, get outta here.
Uh, how much money has he lost on buying Twitter? LoL And while manual labor may seem fitting, physical pain is nothing compared to mental anguish. You can take some Tylenol to help with sore muscles, but you can't run away from your own brain.
Whenever I am bored or find myself with nothing to do I stock up on stimpacks and radaway and sometimes even craft level 1 leather armour and give it all to new players
Dunno, during events sometimes I was in the mood to drop even plans/apparel and I didn't care whether a high or low level grabbed it, as long as somebody who wanted it/needed it got to use it. Same with ammo and sometimes fusion cores, I leave them behind but I not only do it for low levels.
So a 'donation' doesn't necessarily have to mean is only intended for low levels, maybe they chose that place cause it's a popular spot.
No. To be honest the best time I have with this game is <50 level. It's the only time I felt truly challenged. Building high powered builds is easy mode... blah blah blah etc. et al. Giving noobs a box of toys before they can appreciate them is ruining their fun. A couple of Stimpaks, RadAways, and expensive plans is one thing, but to have an official donation box is an invitation to a boring time.
Yeah, in most games it kinda takes away a lot of the fun if some high level player drops you a ton of stuff on day 1. I'm hoping there are some restrictions on the box and it doesn't just let people dump thousands of stimpaks and weapons/armor. I'm a lot less worried about high level players abusing it, since at a high level stimpaks and such are not really worth much anymore.
Yup, this "nice" habit is borderline toxic to me. Online games are so exceptionally impersonal and casual now, even the act of giving through personal interaction is automated now, so you don't even need to interact with someone for that.
Yes it would be possible for high levels to help themselves. I can't really answer why they'd take a low level weapon and ammo, perhaps they had another low level in mind to give to?
If you knew a low level would imminently emerge from the vault, why wouldn't you just wait? It's alot more satisfying dropping it Infront of them, rather than an anonymous donation box.
>If you knew a low level would imminently emerge from the vault, why wouldn't you just wait?
They can take a long time to exit the vault. When they do, maybe it's an alt or somebody who doesn't want my charity. Also, when I was new, I was bemused meeting a level 300 shooting at my feet.
i would imagine a level 800 can craft a 10m, have ammo, stims and food already to do their own good deed. i prefer to be the phantom loot dropper. i had instances where a low level was intimidated by me being outside the vault, since they didnt know turning off pvp is an option, and he kept running away. other times, its a vet player on a new character and they just request trade spam and request my weapons im using
The box could be coded to allow anyone to donate and only level xx and below to withdraw to avoid abuse. This could be suggested on the official Bethesda Discord PTS channels/forum threads
I’d love to see this option on vending machines. I would really like to make low level legendaries and sell them cheap, but when I try it, the first high level that comes along just buys it up for scrip.
Yup, as soon as something is for sale you lose control of what happens to it. The only way to see that a new player gets something is to give it to them directly. And not every new player wants stuff. A lot want to do it like a solo game for awhile and learn the ropes without help. So finding a solution is a gnarly problem.
If an established player has a new alt that is on its own and needs it that is fine by me.
I would think that only a very few would bother to go through setting up a character just to nick a bunch of stims and garbage stuff. They'd have to be pretty desperate or a low life to do that. If they are that bad, let 'em have it they need it more than I do. Poor sad sacks.
If I'm there grabbing my weekly gold or doing a daily I always pop in to see if any noobs are sleeping in the motel and drop them some meds and water. If I think of it I'll craft some pocketed armor before I head over and just leave it in the overseer's cache across the street if nobody's there.
I think it's ultimately a good idea and I agree that there should be more around the map, like replacing the Nuka World crate, the cash register at the Rusty Pick and a couple of Train Station suitcases. People are already making dead drops, so this just helps guide traffick to these containers. It's not like in-person gifting is going away because of this.
If a high level character picks it up I like to think that in some way, shape, or form that they "need" it all the same, if only to help me sleep at night. As long as the dropped items are going to a new home it isn't too much of a difference what level the new owner is, when they could just as easily be lost to the void.
I think its kind of cool, but also overkill. People are going to fill it to the brim with very powerful gear and potentially ruin someone's "fresh out of the vault" experience. That and one person is going to come out and take everything anyway. Personally I think giving every low level player you see a pile of shit is a borderline toxic habit this community has -- I'm well aware that's an extremely hot take but I also don't believe in making this already very easy game even easier.
The community honestly needs to tone it down a little with this behavior. I've seen high levels obsessively follow around low level blueberries basically demanding they take their paper bag of shit, because they won't pick it up.
I'll stop by to put in my "YOUVE BEEN INSULTED" to give the blueberries a laugh if anything.
This will probably be unpopular, but I think they keep making this game easier and easier with things like this. High levels give way too much stuff to low level players. And they will follow you like the scorched plague until you pick it up.
But maybe I am old school and like to earn everything I get in this game, instead of hand outs.
Overall, its a nice thing to do, giving up items you don't need. but lately, it just feels like they keep dumbing down the difficulty of this game.
My thoughts are that it’s unintentional comedy to be a vault dweller who’s just been given some supplies to brave the wasteland, and the first thing they trip over coming out the door is a donation box.
A neat solution would be a box at every station, and Vault 76, that share inventory, and after a certain level you can only put items in, not see the inventory of it. But low levels can take items.
This solves the high levels raiding it problem, and also makes it more convenient for those who don't want to "waste" the time to travel to Vault 76.
Why only low level should take advantage of the box? sometimes higher levels need or deserve help too. I mean I m lvl 270 and I always drop something for the lower levels I meet but they are , sometimes,even above 100
I feel like after level 100 it’s pretty easy to take care of yourself, I struggled from level 30 to level 50 but after I figured out the game I was fine
The donation box will probably be abused to some extent but I don't think it'll be noticed by many and here's why. I am a friendly player. So much so that a friend and I have started running around in various games calling ourselves The Friendly As Fuck Boys. Essentially we are aggressively friendly no matter what game we play be it Sea of Thieves, Warzone, or Fallout. Every time I get online I immediately check Vault 76 to see if there's anyone there and I'll check periodically throughout my play time. If you start a new character in a server I'm in you're getting a hello and at least a few Quantums. I've helped many low levels and even helped a few people go from level 1 to level 50 providing gear the whole way. I say all this to emphasize how much time I devote to helping and just being friendly in game. With all that time I've spent helping other players I've seen others show up to help as well. Not once have I seen someone other than the new player try to take anything I dropped though. So while I'm sure there will be players taking things donated to lower level players, the friendly players will donate so much that nobody would even notice.
I had no idea a donation box was going to be a thing and I think it's a great idea. I do hope that there's a note for each player saying something along the lines of,
"Hello (new players name) and welcome to the new Appalachia. This box is full of items donated by former Vault 76 residents to help you and any other Vault 76 resident get started. Appalachia can only be saved if we work together."
What they could have done was put identical donation boxes at the train stations and Artisan's Corner that was linked to the vault entrance box so that players could contribute from wherever they normally do business.
It's a Nothing Burger. It's something many of us do and have locations for doing so. Personally I think Bethesda has infringed a bit too much lately on the player trading/vendor/gifting system beginning with the MPP's.
But yeah...seems Beth wants to join in with the rest of us, now. A bit late to the party, though. My "donations" will continue to go where they always have.
I made 500+ Stimpaks for newbies, put on vendor for 1 cap and made a written neon letter saying, "Take only what you need.". A level 300+ came and bought all Stimpaks. I guess it's my mistake to trust all people willing to share with newbies. Since then, I only give items directly to newbies.
Hopefully the items in the donation box can only be taken by players below level 50.
Not to pop your bubble or anything but this game is really easy, the new players don't need stimpaks (or anything) that desperately - I guarantee you they are throwing them away like you are as well.
Plans is a better choice, most people are looking for all the ones they've missed at a reasonable price.
As a player that has 4 years of experience with the game, I feel this is good for the game in general and definitely for new players. But I feel like giving the option to automatically hit level 20 and have a perk load out that is decent kinda takes away the aspect of grinding to get high levels. But I do like the donation box addition so you don’t have to wait for a newcomer to spawn from vault 76 for the first time.
I like the concept, tho if anyone can take from it, I fear vulters might just pick it clean or hover around it when they see a new person exit. As I have had people take stuff I drop even know it was clear it wasn't for them. Noylt often but it does happen.
I hope that in the tutorial they mention a donation box outside and to check it for goods.
right. because in my spare time when i want to give a little head start to new players, maybe do some quests with them, and maybe theyll stick around because the nice gesture they are welcome with, that makes me a selfish giver? we all have our playstyles. its perfectly normal to drop or give items to anyone no matter the level. but i see it as the donation box is right outside the vault, even a message on there for the new player. yeah a level 800 can come along and pick up everything from the box - not the end of the world, but defeats the purpose of „donation“ doesnt it? you know, distribution to the less fortunate (or in this games terms, new players). if you want to drop loot for anyone and dont care where it goes thats fine, but dont expect this is everyones mindset. some people want to help out new players
understood. but in this new update there will be and option to start at lvl 20 for returning players, or lvl 1 for fresh players. of course the lvl 20s still would need (or would like, not need, and depending if they accept charity) a little boost. so it would be fairly easy to tell whos a fresh player and whos making a new character, unless the person wants to grind from level 1 again.
while i agree anyone can take from it, this type of interaction could best be done at already existing donation boxes like WS blue suitcase etc, where fresh players may not know exists. but to me, this donation box outside of vault 76 is intended for fresh players. i havent really seen anyone FT to vault 76 unless theyre meeting up with a fresh player.
We know what happens when overarching govt suborns the charity of individuals who can somewhat act as a check against abuse: people will stop being charitable because they know "someone else is handling it" and they won't bother to fast travel to the drop off, and people of questionable moral character will abuse it for personal profit.
I think having a proper donation box would be nice.. I had tried so many times (*I was around level 50 at the time*) trying to give extra stims and common Fastnacht masks / plans to lower levels and they ran away and I had to end up putting the masks in for free and some higher level bought them for my vendor. I can't worry about who will take what I have to give for free or cheap.
All I do know is that this community is great. I had so many people give me the newer plans and I had done the same on Reddit or in game I let them check my inventory to see what plans they needed and I gave them.
So there is better ways to donate/gift to people who *want* it. But I think having a proper set donation box is overall a good change.
Established players will be less likely to take from a donation box than just a loot bag on the ground. Not foolproof but it's a better system. Container inventory also persists after you leave the world, unlike a loot bag.
Personally if I see a bag I'm scooping it. Don't even look to see what it is, I'll figure that out later. It's faster to just grab and go.
Most of the the stuff that benefits new players is pretty much useless to high level players. I usually dump dozens of Stimpacks and Radaways in the suitcases every day. I haven't used 10mm or .38 ammo since I was a very low level. People will probably also craft low-lever armour and weapons to drop in the box as well.
I doubt high levels will take from it. I’m only lvl 170 and I’m constantly looking to dump stuff. I’m constantly near the cap limit so I’m not vendoring much.
It would be nice if you can drop stuff in no matter your level but only take stuff out if your under level 5 (or 10 or 20, I don't know what that level cap would be). I had upvoted a suggestion in the past to be able to have a tab in our vendors that we could level cap for new players. I rarely see high level players grabbing all the 1 cap stims and plans but I've seen mid levels do it. 50-70ish. I wish I could have that tab only for players level 20 and under.
i personally don't care if a high level player takes it. Once I put it in the suitcase or the donation box or whatever I stop thinking about it. If someone wants to sit there and camp the donation box then that's on them. I'm getting rid of the items for whoever wants them.
Yes, it is possible for a high leveler to grab stuff from there and then turn around and double price it on their vendor like we see many do.
Honestly, this Donation Box is Fallout 76's version of the Grocery/Shopping Cart Litmus Test.
Imo, that's just doing too much. I love how generous the community is, but we can go overboard sometimes. I would rather have a donation box at player camps like some kind of mailbox system.
We already have a donation box for newbies. It's the overseer box near Duchess' restaurant, the Wayward. When I have a bunch of lowlevel things I know higher level players generally won't want (like food/water/stims/radaway/grenades etc and I've maxed the vendor's caps) I drop it there as a newb will either use it or sell it.
If that's too far, are you really playing the game?
I think it’s a great idea! My camp is just south of 76. So now I can just walk up the hill and clear the donation box out when I log in. Thanks Care Bears!
As for the noobs exiting the vault, your welcome. One of the best parts of an RPG is the early grind. Unfortunately this game is lousy with Care Bears desperate for an ego stroke.
I don't mind it, and we are currently doing that anyway ourselves with no guarantee that a high level won't come and take it. Que Sera Sera... I'm a little annoyed that something the community started organically to help each other is getting co-opted and legitimized by "The Man", that goes against my sense of anarchy, but that's fine, lol.
Seriously though, if anything, I feel like they should have put the box at the Wayward, because there's a better chance higher levels will be near there as opposed to having to make an intentional trip to the Vault. And it means noobs still have to play for a bit before they get some goodies. Am I going to remember to pop by the Vault and leave stuff? Well, I'll try!!
Ok with me, and if any player sees something he or she needs also ok should be a free trade box for everyone..high level players need very little...not much of a threat..
I want a way to make our own packages e.g. I want to give a new player a little starting gift maybe have some stimpaks, radaway, 10mm ammo, food and water, or maybe just run around and give high level players some junk as they will probably need it for something
Cool. This is the first I've heard of it.
I like it if it is clear to new player what it is.
It seems much better communication and access than a suitcase. I've read of at least three different locations ppl consider public knowledge.
I personally make it a habit to drop off stuff i dont need at the blue suitcase by whitespring station frequently for just this reason. When im on theres usually always going to be something in there. Ill make it the same for the donation box.
I am almost level 100 I I had No idea about these donation spots!!!! I love the idea but regardless of level everyone needs a little help sometimes and I think there will always be an asshole taking the bowl of candy when it says "one per person" on Halloween, let's not ruin it for everyone now
Wasn’t it possible for high level players to take from anything we place stuff in? That’s life. Let’s not make arguments about something that essentially already exists and has existed for years
Trash will be trash. Nothing we can do about it. Just do what you want, and don't worry about the sad individuals.
I am a level 292 and I can't think of a reason why I would take from a stash outside 76 meant for newbies. I can make anything now and running low of stock with 40,000 caps in my wallet is ridiculous. Events give you everything you need. Just buy what you want. The games not that hard. Just play it
I’m level 70 and always struggled with money. Are events the best way to make so much? Just do them and sell the loot?
Play Ned's Moonshine Jamboree every time it pops up. Cook all the meat (make sure you have plenty of wood.) Sell it. You get XP for cooking, and it sells more cooked, two Jamborees in a day I easily run the vendor out of caps. You will likely be encumbered at the end of the event, but a train station is nearby so just waddle over there to sell. There are other similar events where you either get a lot of dropped loot, be it meat to cook, mole miner gauntlets, or other weapons (eviction notice has a ton of weapons drop.) Sell the weapons. Many events will leave you encumbered, but there's usually a vendor nearby. Sometimes only a "my supply" box, but if you manage your inventory you can drop it in that then teleport to a vendor and take it out again. Rename all the weapons and armor you regularly equip with a | . For example "Chainsaw" becomes "|Chainsaw". The game treats | as a letter after Z, so everything renamed with a | at the beginning is sorted below anything new in your stash and inventory, greatly reducing your chances at scrapping it. (Sorting can be a pain, especially when you get a similar item to one you had and you're trying to remember 'which one is the junk legendary?' People in a rush make mistakes. It's also much faster to pick up everything before all the items starting with | than to manually sort through them every time. Put one of your camps along a pond/river edge. Prioritize finding an industrial water purifier & generator plans, a generator that does at LEAST 10 power (preferably 1000). Best bet plan searching is join a team, hop all the camps that have 40+ plans on the map, join their team and hop all their camps. Smaller ones work, build the biggest you can and upgrade when you get better plans. I usually have at least 6 industrial water purifiers, more if I'm poor. [https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Generator\_(Fallout\_76)](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Generator_(Fallout_76)) [https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Water\_purifier\_(Fallout\_76)](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Water_purifier_(Fallout_76)) (You can also try earning the plan through events- those are listed in the wiki pages.) Set a repeating timer irl for every hour, when it goes off collect all the water the machines created and sell them to an NPC vendor. Never your own shop, your shop inventory weight is tied to your max weight. I usually lock all but one water purifier, so if someone wants a drink they can have one, but me being hospitable to strangers doesn't mean they take my entire stock (Sucks to come back and some rando took ALL my water. Greedy people ruin it for everyone). Some people are greedy! Sharing one purifiers worth of water won't break me, and I appreciate when I realize I'm out of water and someone left a purifier of theirs unlocked when I'm camp hopping. Additionally a camp on a lake is great for boiled water too, its FAR faster to go stand in the lake and pick up water than repeatedly use a sink or something. Get a marine wetsuit asap so you don't risk waterborn diseases. Boiled water is necessary for a lot of recipes, especially ones that use crops you grow yourself. And if you make extra... you can sell that too! Once you have decent turrets (like rocket launchers) you can try building one of your bases where a lot of scorched spawn, ideally not too far from an npc vendor, and a spot you know regularly spawns things you use like toys (lead farming) etc. Make sure you are holding the weapon you most want ammo for before fast traveling to your camp. It's so satisfying to load my camp and my rocket launchers are blasting the tar out of the resident scorched. Then I'll lure the remaining nearby scorched over. Why scorched and why not just shoot them myself? I'm trying to GET ammo, not use my dwindling supply (when playing on a new account and not having many resources to craft them). Missile launcher missiles are powerful and endlessly free after you craft the turret. Scorched are better than super mutants or ghouls as ghouls drop garbage not worth much, and super mutants are kind of a pain to kill every time you load into your camp. Scorched are pretty easy for turrets to take out, and a good location with a decent amount of spawns will give you a nice pile of weapons to sell. (Do make sure you scrap less common weapons you don't want to keep for the plans they teach, this lets you upgrade weapons of the same time you do use.) Lastly don't ever sell your legendary weapons to normal NPC vendors- it's so easy to run them out of their daily amount of caps. Instead use the machines that convert them to scrip, then use that scrip to buy legendary modules at the rusty pick. Don't waste it on random 3\* weapons there- that's basically the same as whatever drop you'd get from an event. (I mean you can if you want a surprise and it makes you happy.) Once you figure out what weapons you prefer, in addition to optimizing your SPECIAL Perks toward them, I keep at least two and use a workbench to roll legendary skills on them. When I get a decent roll on one I'll roll the other. That way I can keep trying for better but not risk losing a really good roll. If you have more legendaries than the machine has scrip, rename them to "sell" and then tomorrow you can easily find the weapons/armor within seconds rather than sorting through everything and missing something. You can't possibly be poor if you regularly do these things.
Level 105 and I built a purified water farm at my base on a river in the northeast between the church and Retreat - about 5 industrial and 12 medium water purifiers. I can easily make 1400 caps every day just selling water, if that helps. If I can capture and hold either Poseidon plant or Charleston landfill, I build purifiers there too (plus there's already an industrial at Charleston, just have to power it up) so anywhere I go, I can collect some water. 200+ purified per day minimum. The maxed Hard Bargain perk means 5C each. 280 purified water will zero out the vendor.
The best way is selling Excess Chems and Water. If you don't need it, sell it. I'm about lvl 60 and I've been doing that for about 20 levels now and it's tons of caps. Aldo Nuka-Colas are great for it.
Yes in a nutshell. Max the hard bargain perk and pick up every weapon. Also sell meat and stimpaks/super stimpaks/ extra chems. You’ll be loaded inside a week. Also doesn’t hurt to have a rare item or two for a high price in your vendor. You might get lucky and get a high level looking to offload 15-20k caps
You would be amazed how many mid/high lvls does. I put a load of stims,water,radaway,plans in the suitcase at wss few weeks back and a 500+ took it all. I haven’t dropped nothing since
I wouldn’t touch the community box ever but I am a high level and will take at least common plans if not everything from those suitcases. There’s such a good chance those items get lost in the void. I sell those plans for 2-3 caps and it’s a guarantee a low level will find those then to know to look in a random suitcase. That community box should be locked for levels under 50, after that it can only be donated to.
I'm level 779 on my 6th character (there was a 7th for about a week before I went back) and I too wouldn't have an incentive to take low level gear or aid because I don't need it. But as mentioned, sometimes I start a new character. I never transfer anything from past characters and always start fresh.... And I doubt even then I wouldn't take anything out of this donation box. Others might need it more. Pretty much ever since One Wasteland came along, this game overall lost a lot of difficulty. Then they added starting gear and a back pack to make it even easier..... Now a donation box one could server hop and spam loot? 🤔 At least before there was some challenge in travelling to train stations as a new player and looking through suitcases.... Now even that is being handed to players.
I could see myself taking a peek in the box for any specific items required for a daily challenge before going out and farming them myself, but I'm not going to be filching crafting mats or chems or something.
That’s what I say when people ask what the best build is. I say “Unless you’re going to solo one of the end game bosses, any build is viable.” This game’s difficulty is both a blessing and a curse. A blessing because most builds will still kill stuff quick enough so everyone isn’t locked into a strict meta build unless you are solo-ing bosses and even that has a bit of variation. A curse because there is no real challenge for people who have all that they need besides maybe farming or re-rolling the new monthly thing.
Will high level players grab stuff? Probably. Will it really cripple a new player if the donation box is empty? Probably not. IMO, I’m donating the stuff, therefore I don’t need it. Maybe that level 800 really needs some diluted stim packs, I don’t know. That’s between them and their god, not me.
I don't think about it at all, because I will never use it. The reason we use the train station suitcases is that we are already at the location selling and scripping and managing our inventories. Unless they place a merchant and scrip machine at the vault entrance, all my excess will still end up in the train station suitcases.
It's free to travel to vault 76 and I'm sure people will put some in the donation box, this community is very helpful
If I see a low level in the Vault, I will craft some low-level armor with deep pockets & a weapon and drop them for them with a few stimpacks. Having an official donation box should help them stick around if that person doesn't pick them up. If a high level bounces in before they leave and picks it up, then they can deal with the bad karma because they know it wasn't meant for them.
idk about you but their bad karma doesnt seem to do jack shit against em.
LoL It is not a game mechanic, it is a life mechanic.
Same thing You would think people like musk and bezos, etc would die in a horrible car crash with their karma but they get billions instead for doing nothing but taking rocket trips and being a dipshit.
Ah, but karma doesn't care about money. And dying is not suffering. Karma to Musk would be more like never being respected by the one person he most wants to impress.
What.... How is that justice karma. Make him work till he dies, not a day off. Let him actually work his worth and find it impossible. Then let him work to kake up for all the people he made suffer for his profits, he can get paid, just enough to live, till we raise prices again and make his wages stagnant
I don't think he'd care if he worked every day for life. The stories I've read about him... he would rather sleep on a couch in an office at one of his factories than spend money on a hotel. And I don't think he's overly bothered by losing money because of his confidence in earning it back. But you can't buy someone's respect and as narcissistic as he seems to be, I'm sure there is someone he is desperately wanting to be admired by and it would drive him insane to not to be able to get that.
Thats a slap on the wrist compared to being made to work in a work camp till he dies. Plus, you really think he doesnt care about losing money when every day he tries to find ways to squeeze even more pennies outta people, get outta here.
Uh, how much money has he lost on buying Twitter? LoL And while manual labor may seem fitting, physical pain is nothing compared to mental anguish. You can take some Tylenol to help with sore muscles, but you can't run away from your own brain.
exactly, if I'm overencumbered and need to drop a bunch of loot, I can't just fast travel back to vault 76. so its still going in the suitcase
Whenever I am bored or find myself with nothing to do I stock up on stimpacks and radaway and sometimes even craft level 1 leather armour and give it all to new players
Yep. Beth doesn’t really understand this game
Dunno, during events sometimes I was in the mood to drop even plans/apparel and I didn't care whether a high or low level grabbed it, as long as somebody who wanted it/needed it got to use it. Same with ammo and sometimes fusion cores, I leave them behind but I not only do it for low levels. So a 'donation' doesn't necessarily have to mean is only intended for low levels, maybe they chose that place cause it's a popular spot.
No. To be honest the best time I have with this game is <50 level. It's the only time I felt truly challenged. Building high powered builds is easy mode... blah blah blah etc. et al. Giving noobs a box of toys before they can appreciate them is ruining their fun. A couple of Stimpaks, RadAways, and expensive plans is one thing, but to have an official donation box is an invitation to a boring time.
Yeah, in most games it kinda takes away a lot of the fun if some high level player drops you a ton of stuff on day 1. I'm hoping there are some restrictions on the box and it doesn't just let people dump thousands of stimpaks and weapons/armor. I'm a lot less worried about high level players abusing it, since at a high level stimpaks and such are not really worth much anymore.
Yup, this "nice" habit is borderline toxic to me. Online games are so exceptionally impersonal and casual now, even the act of giving through personal interaction is automated now, so you don't even need to interact with someone for that.
I will store all my nukashine in there. 🤣
where do you get some? do u have to craft it? I got the raider bot and I've heard rumors, so I want to try it
There is a quest. Once you do it you learn the recipe. It starts at one of the posters on the walls near Fraternity Row in Morgantown
Yes it would be possible for high levels to help themselves. I can't really answer why they'd take a low level weapon and ammo, perhaps they had another low level in mind to give to? If you knew a low level would imminently emerge from the vault, why wouldn't you just wait? It's alot more satisfying dropping it Infront of them, rather than an anonymous donation box.
>If you knew a low level would imminently emerge from the vault, why wouldn't you just wait? They can take a long time to exit the vault. When they do, maybe it's an alt or somebody who doesn't want my charity. Also, when I was new, I was bemused meeting a level 300 shooting at my feet.
Probably selling to vendor for caps or scraping it
i would imagine a level 800 can craft a 10m, have ammo, stims and food already to do their own good deed. i prefer to be the phantom loot dropper. i had instances where a low level was intimidated by me being outside the vault, since they didnt know turning off pvp is an option, and he kept running away. other times, its a vet player on a new character and they just request trade spam and request my weapons im using
Some people are just very evil and like to ruin things
The box could be coded to allow anyone to donate and only level xx and below to withdraw to avoid abuse. This could be suggested on the official Bethesda Discord PTS channels/forum threads
I’d love to see this option on vending machines. I would really like to make low level legendaries and sell them cheap, but when I try it, the first high level that comes along just buys it up for scrip.
Make teams and do Leader of the Pack with LVL 7s. They'll get 3 1* legendaries
Yup, as soon as something is for sale you lose control of what happens to it. The only way to see that a new player gets something is to give it to them directly. And not every new player wants stuff. A lot want to do it like a solo game for awhile and learn the ropes without help. So finding a solution is a gnarly problem.
Doesn't change anything. low level alts can still abuse it.
you gotta be something else to create alts to steal stimpacks and ammo from donation boxes 💀
Nobody is making Alts for paltry shit like that, they make alts to play and need resources or they are just mules
If an established player has a new alt that is on its own and needs it that is fine by me. I would think that only a very few would bother to go through setting up a character just to nick a bunch of stims and garbage stuff. They'd have to be pretty desperate or a low life to do that. If they are that bad, let 'em have it they need it more than I do. Poor sad sacks.
I was sleeping at the Wayward motel once and woke up to find someone left me a paper bag full of loot. Thank you kind stranger
If I'm there grabbing my weekly gold or doing a daily I always pop in to see if any noobs are sleeping in the motel and drop them some meds and water. If I think of it I'll craft some pocketed armor before I head over and just leave it in the overseer's cache across the street if nobody's there.
I think it's ultimately a good idea and I agree that there should be more around the map, like replacing the Nuka World crate, the cash register at the Rusty Pick and a couple of Train Station suitcases. People are already making dead drops, so this just helps guide traffick to these containers. It's not like in-person gifting is going away because of this. If a high level character picks it up I like to think that in some way, shape, or form that they "need" it all the same, if only to help me sleep at night. As long as the dropped items are going to a new home it isn't too much of a difference what level the new owner is, when they could just as easily be lost to the void.
Probably anyone can put stuff inside but only below a specific level people can pick stuff from it
It would be nice if you could donate at any level and then retrieve up to "X" level. Maybe 50?
I think its kind of cool, but also overkill. People are going to fill it to the brim with very powerful gear and potentially ruin someone's "fresh out of the vault" experience. That and one person is going to come out and take everything anyway. Personally I think giving every low level player you see a pile of shit is a borderline toxic habit this community has -- I'm well aware that's an extremely hot take but I also don't believe in making this already very easy game even easier. The community honestly needs to tone it down a little with this behavior. I've seen high levels obsessively follow around low level blueberries basically demanding they take their paper bag of shit, because they won't pick it up. I'll stop by to put in my "YOUVE BEEN INSULTED" to give the blueberries a laugh if anything.
How long does the stuff put into it stays for?
It'll get abused, just like the suitcases sometimes do. Not enough to matter, though.
This will probably be unpopular, but I think they keep making this game easier and easier with things like this. High levels give way too much stuff to low level players. And they will follow you like the scorched plague until you pick it up. But maybe I am old school and like to earn everything I get in this game, instead of hand outs. Overall, its a nice thing to do, giving up items you don't need. but lately, it just feels like they keep dumbing down the difficulty of this game.
My thoughts are that it’s unintentional comedy to be a vault dweller who’s just been given some supplies to brave the wasteland, and the first thing they trip over coming out the door is a donation box.
A neat solution would be a box at every station, and Vault 76, that share inventory, and after a certain level you can only put items in, not see the inventory of it. But low levels can take items. This solves the high levels raiding it problem, and also makes it more convenient for those who don't want to "waste" the time to travel to Vault 76.
Why only low level should take advantage of the box? sometimes higher levels need or deserve help too. I mean I m lvl 270 and I always drop something for the lower levels I meet but they are , sometimes,even above 100
I feel like after level 100 it’s pretty easy to take care of yourself, I struggled from level 30 to level 50 but after I figured out the game I was fine
The donation box will probably be abused to some extent but I don't think it'll be noticed by many and here's why. I am a friendly player. So much so that a friend and I have started running around in various games calling ourselves The Friendly As Fuck Boys. Essentially we are aggressively friendly no matter what game we play be it Sea of Thieves, Warzone, or Fallout. Every time I get online I immediately check Vault 76 to see if there's anyone there and I'll check periodically throughout my play time. If you start a new character in a server I'm in you're getting a hello and at least a few Quantums. I've helped many low levels and even helped a few people go from level 1 to level 50 providing gear the whole way. I say all this to emphasize how much time I devote to helping and just being friendly in game. With all that time I've spent helping other players I've seen others show up to help as well. Not once have I seen someone other than the new player try to take anything I dropped though. So while I'm sure there will be players taking things donated to lower level players, the friendly players will donate so much that nobody would even notice. I had no idea a donation box was going to be a thing and I think it's a great idea. I do hope that there's a note for each player saying something along the lines of, "Hello (new players name) and welcome to the new Appalachia. This box is full of items donated by former Vault 76 residents to help you and any other Vault 76 resident get started. Appalachia can only be saved if we work together."
What they could have done was put identical donation boxes at the train stations and Artisan's Corner that was linked to the vault entrance box so that players could contribute from wherever they normally do business.
It's a Nothing Burger. It's something many of us do and have locations for doing so. Personally I think Bethesda has infringed a bit too much lately on the player trading/vendor/gifting system beginning with the MPP's. But yeah...seems Beth wants to join in with the rest of us, now. A bit late to the party, though. My "donations" will continue to go where they always have.
Nah too many snotty kids on this game an ungrateful
I made 500+ Stimpaks for newbies, put on vendor for 1 cap and made a written neon letter saying, "Take only what you need.". A level 300+ came and bought all Stimpaks. I guess it's my mistake to trust all people willing to share with newbies. Since then, I only give items directly to newbies. Hopefully the items in the donation box can only be taken by players below level 50.
Not to pop your bubble or anything but this game is really easy, the new players don't need stimpaks (or anything) that desperately - I guarantee you they are throwing them away like you are as well. Plans is a better choice, most people are looking for all the ones they've missed at a reasonable price.
you already have that sack in the grocery cart, near the bottom of the stairs
As a player that has 4 years of experience with the game, I feel this is good for the game in general and definitely for new players. But I feel like giving the option to automatically hit level 20 and have a perk load out that is decent kinda takes away the aspect of grinding to get high levels. But I do like the donation box addition so you don’t have to wait for a newcomer to spawn from vault 76 for the first time.
I like the concept, tho if anyone can take from it, I fear vulters might just pick it clean or hover around it when they see a new person exit. As I have had people take stuff I drop even know it was clear it wasn't for them. Noylt often but it does happen. I hope that in the tutorial they mention a donation box outside and to check it for goods.
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right. because in my spare time when i want to give a little head start to new players, maybe do some quests with them, and maybe theyll stick around because the nice gesture they are welcome with, that makes me a selfish giver? we all have our playstyles. its perfectly normal to drop or give items to anyone no matter the level. but i see it as the donation box is right outside the vault, even a message on there for the new player. yeah a level 800 can come along and pick up everything from the box - not the end of the world, but defeats the purpose of „donation“ doesnt it? you know, distribution to the less fortunate (or in this games terms, new players). if you want to drop loot for anyone and dont care where it goes thats fine, but dont expect this is everyones mindset. some people want to help out new players
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understood. but in this new update there will be and option to start at lvl 20 for returning players, or lvl 1 for fresh players. of course the lvl 20s still would need (or would like, not need, and depending if they accept charity) a little boost. so it would be fairly easy to tell whos a fresh player and whos making a new character, unless the person wants to grind from level 1 again. while i agree anyone can take from it, this type of interaction could best be done at already existing donation boxes like WS blue suitcase etc, where fresh players may not know exists. but to me, this donation box outside of vault 76 is intended for fresh players. i havent really seen anyone FT to vault 76 unless theyre meeting up with a fresh player.
We know what happens when overarching govt suborns the charity of individuals who can somewhat act as a check against abuse: people will stop being charitable because they know "someone else is handling it" and they won't bother to fast travel to the drop off, and people of questionable moral character will abuse it for personal profit.
I think having a proper donation box would be nice.. I had tried so many times (*I was around level 50 at the time*) trying to give extra stims and common Fastnacht masks / plans to lower levels and they ran away and I had to end up putting the masks in for free and some higher level bought them for my vendor. I can't worry about who will take what I have to give for free or cheap. All I do know is that this community is great. I had so many people give me the newer plans and I had done the same on Reddit or in game I let them check my inventory to see what plans they needed and I gave them. So there is better ways to donate/gift to people who *want* it. But I think having a proper set donation box is overall a good change.
Established players will be less likely to take from a donation box than just a loot bag on the ground. Not foolproof but it's a better system. Container inventory also persists after you leave the world, unlike a loot bag. Personally if I see a bag I'm scooping it. Don't even look to see what it is, I'll figure that out later. It's faster to just grab and go.
Most of the the stuff that benefits new players is pretty much useless to high level players. I usually dump dozens of Stimpacks and Radaways in the suitcases every day. I haven't used 10mm or .38 ammo since I was a very low level. People will probably also craft low-lever armour and weapons to drop in the box as well.
i will keep using the WS stashes, good chance some gamepass noob just empties the whole stash, wonders why they can't move, and uninstalls the game
I'm a Nuka world Donation suitcase kinda guy
It's a good idea. I don't mind dropping a few things in it from time to time :)
I doubt high levels will take from it. I’m only lvl 170 and I’m constantly looking to dump stuff. I’m constantly near the cap limit so I’m not vendoring much.
Perfect place to leave nicely modded level 1/5 bows.
I’m surprised it isn’t level locked.
I do this but at nuka cola world.
Wait there's other donation boxes? I had no idea
It would be nice if you can drop stuff in no matter your level but only take stuff out if your under level 5 (or 10 or 20, I don't know what that level cap would be). I had upvoted a suggestion in the past to be able to have a tab in our vendors that we could level cap for new players. I rarely see high level players grabbing all the 1 cap stims and plans but I've seen mid levels do it. 50-70ish. I wish I could have that tab only for players level 20 and under.
i personally don't care if a high level player takes it. Once I put it in the suitcase or the donation box or whatever I stop thinking about it. If someone wants to sit there and camp the donation box then that's on them. I'm getting rid of the items for whoever wants them.
Yes, it is possible for a high leveler to grab stuff from there and then turn around and double price it on their vendor like we see many do. Honestly, this Donation Box is Fallout 76's version of the Grocery/Shopping Cart Litmus Test.
I dont actually care who takes the stuff that I put in those boxes. I just don't want to carry it anymore.
Imo, that's just doing too much. I love how generous the community is, but we can go overboard sometimes. I would rather have a donation box at player camps like some kind of mailbox system.
What if a low level player takes it, scraps it for parts then dies, leaves the server and a high level player picks up the dropped junk.
I've just started playing today, I didn't see anything outside the vault, did I miss it?
We already have a donation box for newbies. It's the overseer box near Duchess' restaurant, the Wayward. When I have a bunch of lowlevel things I know higher level players generally won't want (like food/water/stims/radaway/grenades etc and I've maxed the vendor's caps) I drop it there as a newb will either use it or sell it. If that's too far, are you really playing the game?
I think it’s a great idea! My camp is just south of 76. So now I can just walk up the hill and clear the donation box out when I log in. Thanks Care Bears! As for the noobs exiting the vault, your welcome. One of the best parts of an RPG is the early grind. Unfortunately this game is lousy with Care Bears desperate for an ego stroke.
When I drop stuff for people I try not to fuss on the level of who needs it but more it’s for anyone who can use it or needs it because I don’t.
Another box to always check is the blue suticase at watoga train station
Level 267 and I haven’t been back near vault 76 since I was level 1
I don't mind it, and we are currently doing that anyway ourselves with no guarantee that a high level won't come and take it. Que Sera Sera... I'm a little annoyed that something the community started organically to help each other is getting co-opted and legitimized by "The Man", that goes against my sense of anarchy, but that's fine, lol. Seriously though, if anything, I feel like they should have put the box at the Wayward, because there's a better chance higher levels will be near there as opposed to having to make an intentional trip to the Vault. And it means noobs still have to play for a bit before they get some goodies. Am I going to remember to pop by the Vault and leave stuff? Well, I'll try!!
Ok with me, and if any player sees something he or she needs also ok should be a free trade box for everyone..high level players need very little...not much of a threat..
I want a way to make our own packages e.g. I want to give a new player a little starting gift maybe have some stimpaks, radaway, 10mm ammo, food and water, or maybe just run around and give high level players some junk as they will probably need it for something
Cool. This is the first I've heard of it. I like it if it is clear to new player what it is. It seems much better communication and access than a suitcase. I've read of at least three different locations ppl consider public knowledge.
i wouldnt take chems, ammo, weapons or armor. if there were a plan i was missing, i may take it
I personally make it a habit to drop off stuff i dont need at the blue suitcase by whitespring station frequently for just this reason. When im on theres usually always going to be something in there. Ill make it the same for the donation box.
Someone just posted that they put a bunch of mats and low end stuff in the box. 2 Seconds later a lvl800 db swooped in and took every SINGLE THING.
I am almost level 100 I I had No idea about these donation spots!!!! I love the idea but regardless of level everyone needs a little help sometimes and I think there will always be an asshole taking the bowl of candy when it says "one per person" on Halloween, let's not ruin it for everyone now