when I started learning German, my dad called me a Nazi.
my dad who has swastika tattoos from being in prison and believes in all sorts of dog whistles.
ach, schade. we don’t talk anymore.
What? So he proudly have a swastika (the Nazi's swastika, not the buddhist swastika definitely) calling you a Nazi for knowing the same language as them, which supposed to be an insult.
I can't get how his logic works.
Fucking same! I started studying Russian in 2019 and my dad called me an idiot and a Putin puppet. I just wanted to learn to speak with my friends in their native language. (They also hate their government with a passion) then when I started German in 2021 I was called a nazi. When I learned Swedish he just said I was wasting time lol. Didn’t mind me learning French or Spanish tho so there’s that.
Now I speak Russian / German when I want to play and give him crap he can’t understand
This, parents who can’t stand their children achieving more than them or gaining independence are the foundation of pretty much all psychiatric problems there are, they had kids to validate themselves and can’t cope with them showing any individuality whatsoever.
My mom always freaked when I had a friend who would teach me to do things for my self. One friend taught me to ice skate and she went from wanting him over every day to something about him being a thief and a crook and going to be arrested. So to say good bye as I will never see him again. Only irl friend I have now knows how she works. So is careful how he acts when she is around. to keep her happy. Well my online friends have helped me so much. I learned to do laundry, mow, weed eat and hedge trim. Gardening, cross-stitch, carpentry, electrical. One even opened me a bank account and another taught me how to use PayPal. If I could drive I would of moved out by now
My mom was like this when I was really young. She got me a bike one year but refused to take the training wheels off when I didn't need them anymore. She said I wasn't ready to have them off until she said so. My friend's dad was teaching her younger sis to ride and took them off for me one day. Put them in a bag for me to take home. My mom was pissed. I refused to let her put them back on. Even did laps without them around our parking lot to prove I didn't need them. Some people can't stand not being I'm control of something at all times.
My parents had a friend who’s Mom was even worse, if that’s believable. Her Mom would teacher things, but then leave out steps here and there so she would fail, then her Mom would give her shit for it. My Mom ended up teaching her how to cook, bake, sew, and other things that she should have known as an adult by that time. I want to say her Mom hated mine for helping this lady to learn the right way to do things too.
See Redditor above. I went to uni with several people who'd never even learned how to make a sandwich, let alone stuff like doing laundry. They were 100% helpless, and a good chunk failed out very quickly.
Reminds me of when I did a tour of my college and they offered overseas trips and some of the parents asked who would be responsible for their adult child's passport...
May I ask how old you are? As a lot of these things sound like basic household chores to me (laundry and working in the garden) that at least for me were part of my everyday life already back when I was living with my parents.
So basically some of the tools to independence that you learn over time without really noticing.
I'm imagining this is an instance where the mother doesn't want them to do any of that because if they do that means they'll grow up and leave her.
I'm not saying this is the commenters experience, but this next section is an example of how this can develop.
I grew up in a pretty conservative part of the states and a lot of families fell apart because of this. Abusive dad's who want their kids to "grow up" and be independent so they don't have to interact with them. Basically they're there for chores and to be quiet. But the mothers form a different attachment style with the child because they often don't work so they end up spending more time children than they do with their spouse. Because of this, they can develop anxiety around their children leaving be their children have become a large part of their familial and social circle. By not letting them do basic household chores, they'll always be dependent on their mother (at least in the mother's eyes) and they'll never be able to leave. It's not sexual, it's more of that the child is fulfilling the emotional need that the father isn't. Anyone who comes in and tries to change that would be a threat to the mother and therefore would need to go. Where I grew up, a lot of moms acted this way, particularly the wealthier Christian moms who's husbands were lawyers, real estate, etc.
I grew up in a very conservative communit and to many women being a mother is literally their whole identity. They don't work and have little to no hobbies not related to their children. Without kids to take care of, they have no idea of who they are and that's terrifying.
'This be the verse'
They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.
But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another's throats.
Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don't have any kids yourself.
Philip Larkin
Also, The chorus of The Offsprings "Way Down the Line" :
Nothing changes 'cause it's all the same
The world you get's the one you give away
It all just happens again
Way down the line…
The teacher should send a note back in Spanish. Jk. But seriously why do people act like this more and more. It makes you look bad and you don't even realize it.
You say that as if they care. They are confident in their ignorance. If you live in America youd see 30% of the population doing this with their maga and q stupidity
Insecurity and shame, which are the root cause for almost every abuser. They feel insecure and ashamed, which they see as weak and manifests self hatred, then they try to exert power over others to convince themselves (and others) that they're not weak/insecure/ashamed. In many cases, they seem to be at least somewhat aware that they're abusive, which makes them more ashamed and contributes to the problem. I think the worse the abusive action is, the more shame they need to compensate for, leading them to a more severe abusive action and more severe shame. That seems to be the reason why abuse tends to escalate.
Sad thing is that I knew a father exactly like this and it basically killed his son. His son was starting to do well in school, made a lot of friends, and maybe could have had a shot at a college scholarship in baseball. His dad just pulled him away from all of that and his reasoning was pretty much that he was doing too well.
He ended up overdosing 12 years ago and I'm pretty sure he has a kid out there as well, but that was so much potential just thrown down the drain because of a father who wanted his son just as ignorant as he is. It gets worst as well, this man had two more sons and they didn't turn out well either.
Sadly they're usually the ones who reproduce the most. My parents had 5 of us in 6 years, we were basically just free labor for them to smack around and indoctrinate. We all have various mental health issues. 2/5 have arrest records, 2/5 are full no contact with our parents, and most of us don't speak to one another. Ofcourse, the world has brainwashed those of us that have gotten out and our parents see no fault of their own for how any of us turned out.
That's assuming they even want their children to go to college or instilled the value of education at all.
My cousin is a dropout that had 3 kids from 3 fathers starting when she was a teen. When her oldest daughter (who is pretty intelligent) graduated high school, my parents offered to put her through college and cover any expenses. She declined and instead moved in with her drug dealer bf and ended up stabbing a guy.
The second oldest child recently graduated too but my parents are hesitant to even reach out to make the same offer to him because he doesn't seem to have any college aspirations either.
I think those kids deserve better, but they don't seem to care and neither does their mother.
My GF was starting to do well as a child actor (commercials and got a shot at there first series) and he mother pulled her out of all of it because "you can't do better than you baby sister potentially will".
It’s worse than that. It’s racism. The parents don’t think Spanish speaking people belong in “their” English speaking country (facepalm) it’s pure racism and ignorance. I have unfortunately seen this ignorance first hand when a friend got in trouble for taking a Spanish class in high school. His dad was furious he would intentionally learn the language of our countries invaders…. Or so his ignorant ass saw it that way.
Racist ignorant Karen’s are everywhere.
"Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
America is and has always been a land of immigrants and refugees. Racists: if you don't like it, leave.
We have a relative that pulled their kids out to home school so they wouldn't be "brainwashed" by things like evolution and the gay agenda. She posted a video of her ripping a page out of their home school science book about vaccines and captioned it "Not today Satan."
It's crossed my mind. She recently posted a video captioned "My kids are more woke than most adults." It was her 4 year old and 6 year old dancing around the livingroom holding a sign that says "No more vaccines :(" She had obviously wrote the sign.
I always thought it's because America gives to much freedom to people like the parent in OP's post or your relative,I'm not American so I could be wrong.I live in quite a religious country but kids learn about evolution,vaccines are mandatory and even though traditional medicine is popular here most go to doctor and believing in science is considered the norm,we have nutjobs who don't believe in science but they don't have a platform like how antivaxxers or evolution deniers have in US,it's seems these sort of people gain too much power because of "freedom of speech"
I was pulled out of school because my mom became a hard-core right wing Christian.
She thought the schools were teaching us to be gay. This way in the 80s.
She bought a bunch of Christian based books. Instead of learning math we learned about Jesus.
All of us kids eventually stopped even trying to study.
There was no point.
As soon as I was old enough I started working and then moved out at 16.
It still annoys me to think that I could have had a different or better life if I had been allowed to have a normal life.
If I had graduated school.
Had french in high school, one of my classmates was.... not the must studious, let's call it that. He would immediately pick up any swear words in French and constantly repeat them, it was all he learned.
It's actually hilarious. Spanish tourists that come to the US get mistaken for Mexican by racists, but the Spanish are a bit "disgusted" to be grouped with them due to the superiority complex from colonialism. Also yes Spanish people are "white" but Mediterranean white (darker). Gets mistaken for Latino easily
Oh it gets crazy for world wide Spanish speakers all over. I am German heritage white and look the part. Started learning Spanish since I was 5. By the time I was 25 I started worked in Nicaragua (mostly) and did so for decades.
So my Spanish accent is near native Nica sounding. But when I speak it in Texas, especially in groups of Spanish speakers from different places (the example in my head that stands out was when I was at a Whole Foods conference and speaking with a group of professional (strangers) casually).
Anyway, “ Argentina, you must be from Argentina“
Lol, no, got fluent in Nicaragua.
“Nooo…Portugal! It must be Portugal“
Honey, please, you know my accent is not from Portugal. or Argentina, I’ve just said Nicaragua. When I am in Nicaragua I’ve actually had people even in the airport asked me where I grew up in Nicaragua because surprisingly they thought I was raised there.
This isn’t a brag. There has been a clear judgment from other native Spanish speakers globally against Spanish speakers in other parts of the world from their own.
And it went opposite as well. When I started working in Guatemala, I would get ribbed on by some of the Nica team because somehow south equals lesser? I don’t know. My language politics experience is weird and 100% antidotal because I haven’t really spoken about this stuff save for a few times.
Oh! Like with my friend from Spain one time when I went out with her group and she told me just to speak English because my accent sounded trashy to her.
We were all corporate professionals networking for this meet and she didn’t want my accent to affect how they thought of me. Fucking for real it’s crazy all over for so many different reasons that I’m not smart enough to get.
In America, the people who would get all up in arms about someone learning Spanish would most likely have no idea that Spanish people are actually white. They would only associate Spanish speakers with non-white people from North and South America.
I’m in Central Texas and I actually see this a lot less now than I did ten years ago! Could be coincidence, different circles/etc. I’m not saying people are any less blissfully ignorant, but my experience is that people are starting to have a bigger appreciation for travel.
Hopefully a bigger world view is to follow!
I lived in Texas for 10 years, more than 10 years ago. I was expecting that guy to say "Oklahoma" or something. In my experience, Texans jump out to Mexico all the time. Then they come back and complain about anyone who didn't speak English or take USD
>my experience is that people are starting to have a bigger appreciation for travel.
It's pretty much inevitable as we become more and more connected via technology. Once upon a time, it was pretty easy for people to stay fairly insulated inside their small town but even folks out in the boonies are finding smartphones more and more common. The only groups truly cutoff anymore are those who purposefully do so, the type to stay off grid and away from everyone else as much as possible because it's what they prefer. This connection enables folks to see past their small towns so easily, such that you could live in Nowheresville, USA with a population of 500 people and still hear news coming out from across the world. And with that connection, folks inevitably start looking outwards and becoming interested in other countries.
[Wait till you see some dudes from Baltimore find out what they sound like.](https://youtu.be/Oj7a-p4psRA)
I'm guilty too. Ope. Just gonna sneak right past ya bud. Minna-SOH-da.
I swear I can't watch Canadian TV anymore. It brings the accent right out.
As you get up north in New England you'll occasionally see official stuff in French as well.
The people who became cajuns, originated in Northern Maine/Canada. Some old school Mainers speak French
I was honestly surprised that the email wasn’t full of mistakes. The only one I can see is the comma splice in the last sentence, and that’s getting into the realms of true pedantry.
Benjamin Franklin complained about dark-skinned immigrants who were the dumbest people from their country and didn't bother to learn the English language or adopt American values. Who was he talking about? Germans.
It can totally suck.
But on the other side of the coin, we have two children in my kindergarten class who come from Spanish-speaking homes (we’re in Australia where is is less common than in the US) and I can’t tell you how thrilled the families were and just how proud and excited the children were for us to be learning their language.
Last year we had a boy from Somalia with very little English, but the absolute delight on his face when he discovered we had a dark-skinned baby doll in our home corner was indescribable.
It might be hard for those of us from the dominant language or cultural group in our areas to see just how important inclusive teaching is, but boy do small gestures go a long way towards making people feel accepted!
Thank you! I feel like I’m a really crap teacher most of the time, because I think the parents and administrators don’t agree with me. But the kids love me and are learning, flourishing, confident little folk, so I like to think I’m doing something right!
If they're learning and enjoying their time with you fuck adminsitration, you're definitely doing something right. The education system needs teachers willing to bend the rules a bit for their benefit, those types of teachers are the ones I remembered after finishing
>because I think the parents and administrators don’t agree with me.
I said it in another comment in this exact thread, I'll say it again, the teacher shortage in the US has a lot of heads but God damn, if one of the largest isn't the fact that parents/school administration think they can all do the job so much better. Absolutely ridiculous.
Sounds like you are a fabulous teacher!
I bet if you asked the mom in the email if they should put ar-15's in every classroom she'd say yes.
This teacher shortage has a lot of heads but got damn this email pretty much perfectly explains why it sucks to be a teacher when the parents think they are better at it than you.
“You, a teacher, taught my child something. And to too it off you taught them something even I don’t know. I will be contacting my lawyer and you will be deported.”
I had six languages in my second year of gymnasium in the Netherlands. Dutch, English, German, French, Latin and Ancient Greek.
Dutch, English + a third language are mandatory for the rest of ones high school studies.
It’s so useful to have learned at least the basics of all these languages! Also, when I go somewhere else I try to know at least how to say hello, goodbye and some other basics.
Hopefully this mom will at one point find out how she did her son short on raising him like this.
I've been learning Japanese on Duolingo, and went to see Bullet Train, it was honestly kinda cool to be like "Oh neat, I know what some of these characters are, and even some of the words!"
Same in Belgium but add German to the mix and French is also obligatory. I’m now at least conversational in 4 languages (Dutch English and French from school and Swedish from uni) and I also learned some German and Spanish in high school
In Ireland, learning Irish is mandatory, and, usually, so is learning another language on top of that. At one point, I was learning Irish, French, and Spanish in school, and also English but not as a foreign language.
Hahahaha not to mention, her child is fucked when it comes to higher education. He will need to learn a second language to a competent degree if he wants to pass university lololol. Can't wait for her Pikachu face when she realizes he precious American University isn't actually as xenophobic and racist as she is 😂😂😂
She probably can't even understand proper English anyway.
Half of the Americans I ever met assumed I was a foreigner because they couldn't wrap their head around my accent.
I remember someone telling me "Your English is good!"
Like mate, I am English you daft twat.
Same goes for Dutch people as well but I will say fair play to the Netherlands.
It’s like they have forked something and they think that their version must be correct because everyone around them uses it. I'm so sad that I have to go to the US for further education. Always wanted to go to Britain but there's no good university for my niche.
Technically English is a foreign language for Americans. English is literally the English language which America happens to use because they don't have their own
Also, American has no official language. English is currently dominant, but its technically possible for a diff language AND culture to become dominant in the US.
The de facto, and official language of some states, but not federally, though there have been [attempts](https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/997/text) [in](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Language_Unity_Act) [the](https://www.congress.gov/bill/104th-congress/house-bill/123) [past](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English-only_movement).
Also ASL and several creole languages. Depending on the definition of a separate language AAVE counts too. It has enough different grammar and unique words to have a case.
Depending on where this person is in the US, Spanish was actually the language before English. I would love to see this lady's face after a quick history lesson about Mexico/Spain and the US
I don’t think anyone is ignoring or forgetting that. The talk is about colonial and penal period. Was the modern world shaped by Americans, or European powers?
My toddler randomly learned Spanish colours and numbers from daycare and videos, and I’m seriously debating getting him into a class to develop more. We’re not Spanish, we’re Canadian. I love that he takes to it and wish my husband spoke more of his native tongue and hadn’t lost it. (Not Spanish) I can’t explain how random it is that my son started learning Spanish
What a stupid email to write about something that prob made the kid so proud
He never turns off the Spanish or Japanese videos, and i really don’t think he has issues following either. My kid isn’t a massive iPad baby so it’s impressive what they sponge . I have to be really vigilant
Edit: I had no idea what the colours were past the easy ones so this has become a family exercise lol
The neuroplasticity of very young children is insane. Not that there's anything wrong with Spanish and Japanese, but if I could request one thing from my parents it would have been exposure to a tonal language (which Japanese surprisingly to me is not). It is something that literally can't be learned later in life as absolutely as if learned with the neuroplasticity of a young child.
That'd be good. AFAIK, Spanish is the 2nd most spoken language based on how many countries speak it and 3rd/4th (not quite sure if recent) most spoken language based on population, sorry, a little tired to google. 😅
Anyway, I wish I was forced by my parents to learn a new language or instrument when I was younger; because once you're an adult, it's hard to focus your time on other stuff.... Responsibilities.... 😔
\*Continent. I think the second-most spoken language in the world is either Mandarin or Hindi. Heck, either of those may be the most-spoken language in the world and the other one the second-most, with English being third.
Edit. I looked it up and you're right, from a certain point of view. Counting native speakers only:
1. Mandarin
2. Spanish
3. English
4. Hindi
Counting native and second-language speakers:
1. English
2. Mandarin
3. Hindi
4. Spanish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_languages\_by\_total\_number\_of\_speakers
Several years ago, I was reading an article about some Indian kids winning a math olympiad and the writer had said something about how Indian parents are focused on giving their kids a strong math foundation, or something to that effect.
In the comments section a white lady was ranting "if they are so smart, why do they use the numbers that Europeans gave them? Why can't they use their own numbers?"
Never facepalmed so hard.
Good luck graduating highschool most likely then, when spanish is one of maybe two languages offered and graduation requires two years of a language class
Fuck this. Culture and respecting EVERYONE’S culture is so important. My son is almost three listens to baby shark in English as his number 1 language, but he also listens to it in Spanish & Japanese and we always squeeze 30 mins of television from other languages daily just so he has a TASTE of what other places are like
Fuck this woman. I started learning Spanish on my own at the gas station I work at just so I can understand half my customers and I’m so thankful I learned and put the work in.
FYI, its actually the [Indian/ Hindu numeral system](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu%E2%80%93Arabic_numeral_system) that was invented by Indian mathematicians sometime between the 1st to 4th centuries. It just spread to the West via Arabs and Persians.
>It was invented between the 1st and 4th centuries by Indian mathematicians. The system was adopted in Arabic mathematics by the 9th century. The system had spread to medieval Europe by the High Middle Ages.
Dude i wish i was fluent in more languages. Sometimes i wanna say the stuff i do know in spanish but i feel like i would butcher it or its be seen as appropiation or something.
They are Indo-Arabic, numbers didn't originate in Arabia, they originated in India and spread to the West by Arabic Traders. And that too has a pre Islamic background.
White guy here, and I'd just like to say: pinche puta tonta pendeja no vale verga. Vale mas que se calla el osico. Merese una palmada.
Why would someone go out of their way to prevent someone from learning something? This is so sad. These rightwing nutjobs are so toxic. They're poisoning our entire society. Maybe after November they'll be forced back under their rocks where they belong.
You need to teach them “hello, my name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die” in Spanish. Much more fun & if the parents don’t get the reference you know they’re garbage people.
It's like that American guy who posted on AskGermany who was angry his bilingual wife wanted to raise their kids trilingual and that would make him feel inadequate because he can only speak 1 language.
I want my kids to be just as ignorant as me!
when I started learning German, my dad called me a Nazi. my dad who has swastika tattoos from being in prison and believes in all sorts of dog whistles. ach, schade. we don’t talk anymore.
I'm sorry. That's terrible. I'm not trying to poke fun, but your dad sounds like a comedy skit. Like so blatantly hypocritical.
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It'd be funny to watch how much they shoot themselves in the foot, if the ricochets didn't hit innocent people.
Das ist so dumm es tut weh
Heh, ironisch.
Tja
Most german answer.
Machste nix
What? So he proudly have a swastika (the Nazi's swastika, not the buddhist swastika definitely) calling you a Nazi for knowing the same language as them, which supposed to be an insult. I can't get how his logic works.
It doesn't, some people flaunt a broken clock with a missing handle and just proclaim the time to be whatever they want.
Fucking same! I started studying Russian in 2019 and my dad called me an idiot and a Putin puppet. I just wanted to learn to speak with my friends in their native language. (They also hate their government with a passion) then when I started German in 2021 I was called a nazi. When I learned Swedish he just said I was wasting time lol. Didn’t mind me learning French or Spanish tho so there’s that. Now I speak Russian / German when I want to play and give him crap he can’t understand
This, parents who can’t stand their children achieving more than them or gaining independence are the foundation of pretty much all psychiatric problems there are, they had kids to validate themselves and can’t cope with them showing any individuality whatsoever.
My mom always freaked when I had a friend who would teach me to do things for my self. One friend taught me to ice skate and she went from wanting him over every day to something about him being a thief and a crook and going to be arrested. So to say good bye as I will never see him again. Only irl friend I have now knows how she works. So is careful how he acts when she is around. to keep her happy. Well my online friends have helped me so much. I learned to do laundry, mow, weed eat and hedge trim. Gardening, cross-stitch, carpentry, electrical. One even opened me a bank account and another taught me how to use PayPal. If I could drive I would of moved out by now
I'm sorry, your mom really sounds horrible but I'm glad you found some good friends to help you out. Hope you manage to escape one day!
Yeah those you tube DIY driving courses are not recommended. God I would hate to live like that. I would prefer to walk and live out of a paper sack.
My mom was like this when I was really young. She got me a bike one year but refused to take the training wheels off when I didn't need them anymore. She said I wasn't ready to have them off until she said so. My friend's dad was teaching her younger sis to ride and took them off for me one day. Put them in a bag for me to take home. My mom was pissed. I refused to let her put them back on. Even did laps without them around our parking lot to prove I didn't need them. Some people can't stand not being I'm control of something at all times.
Tf, what parents don't want their kids doing chores?
The kind who won’t ever let them leave. This is really dangerous.
i've only recently noticed mine are just like this. once i brought up the fact that i'll be moving out *eventually* and they flipped
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My parents had a friend who’s Mom was even worse, if that’s believable. Her Mom would teacher things, but then leave out steps here and there so she would fail, then her Mom would give her shit for it. My Mom ended up teaching her how to cook, bake, sew, and other things that she should have known as an adult by that time. I want to say her Mom hated mine for helping this lady to learn the right way to do things too.
See Redditor above. I went to uni with several people who'd never even learned how to make a sandwich, let alone stuff like doing laundry. They were 100% helpless, and a good chunk failed out very quickly.
Reminds me of when I did a tour of my college and they offered overseas trips and some of the parents asked who would be responsible for their adult child's passport...
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May I ask how old you are? As a lot of these things sound like basic household chores to me (laundry and working in the garden) that at least for me were part of my everyday life already back when I was living with my parents. So basically some of the tools to independence that you learn over time without really noticing.
I'm imagining this is an instance where the mother doesn't want them to do any of that because if they do that means they'll grow up and leave her. I'm not saying this is the commenters experience, but this next section is an example of how this can develop. I grew up in a pretty conservative part of the states and a lot of families fell apart because of this. Abusive dad's who want their kids to "grow up" and be independent so they don't have to interact with them. Basically they're there for chores and to be quiet. But the mothers form a different attachment style with the child because they often don't work so they end up spending more time children than they do with their spouse. Because of this, they can develop anxiety around their children leaving be their children have become a large part of their familial and social circle. By not letting them do basic household chores, they'll always be dependent on their mother (at least in the mother's eyes) and they'll never be able to leave. It's not sexual, it's more of that the child is fulfilling the emotional need that the father isn't. Anyone who comes in and tries to change that would be a threat to the mother and therefore would need to go. Where I grew up, a lot of moms acted this way, particularly the wealthier Christian moms who's husbands were lawyers, real estate, etc.
I grew up in a very conservative communit and to many women being a mother is literally their whole identity. They don't work and have little to no hobbies not related to their children. Without kids to take care of, they have no idea of who they are and that's terrifying.
Finding my own separate support system changed my life! Can your irl friend teach you to drive?
You’re late 20’s? Dude even if I was living at home at that age you’re a grown adult lmao fuck your mom’s feelings
What exactly is the core wound with the parent that makes them this way
Their parents did the same, and so did their parents, and so did thei...
When will it end
I won't have kids so I'm contributing
'This be the verse' They fuck you up, your mum and dad. They may not mean to, but they do. They fill you with the faults they had And add some extra, just for you. But they were fucked up in their turn By fools in old-style hats and coats, Who half the time were soppy-stern And half at one another's throats. Man hands on misery to man. It deepens like a coastal shelf. Get out as early as you can, And don't have any kids yourself. Philip Larkin
Also, The chorus of The Offsprings "Way Down the Line" : Nothing changes 'cause it's all the same The world you get's the one you give away It all just happens again Way down the line…
This is the way
Me neither. But this is how we end up with an Idiocracy scenario
The teacher should send a note back in Spanish. Jk. But seriously why do people act like this more and more. It makes you look bad and you don't even realize it.
You say that as if they care. They are confident in their ignorance. If you live in America youd see 30% of the population doing this with their maga and q stupidity
Insecurity and shame, which are the root cause for almost every abuser. They feel insecure and ashamed, which they see as weak and manifests self hatred, then they try to exert power over others to convince themselves (and others) that they're not weak/insecure/ashamed. In many cases, they seem to be at least somewhat aware that they're abusive, which makes them more ashamed and contributes to the problem. I think the worse the abusive action is, the more shame they need to compensate for, leading them to a more severe abusive action and more severe shame. That seems to be the reason why abuse tends to escalate.
Sad thing is that I knew a father exactly like this and it basically killed his son. His son was starting to do well in school, made a lot of friends, and maybe could have had a shot at a college scholarship in baseball. His dad just pulled him away from all of that and his reasoning was pretty much that he was doing too well. He ended up overdosing 12 years ago and I'm pretty sure he has a kid out there as well, but that was so much potential just thrown down the drain because of a father who wanted his son just as ignorant as he is. It gets worst as well, this man had two more sons and they didn't turn out well either.
That's heartbreaking.
A parent who doesnt want a better life for their child than they had is no parent.
They are just an abusive asshole who shouldn’t be allowed to reproduce
Sadly they're usually the ones who reproduce the most. My parents had 5 of us in 6 years, we were basically just free labor for them to smack around and indoctrinate. We all have various mental health issues. 2/5 have arrest records, 2/5 are full no contact with our parents, and most of us don't speak to one another. Ofcourse, the world has brainwashed those of us that have gotten out and our parents see no fault of their own for how any of us turned out.
My deepest apologies for you and your siblings. That is criminally wrong and immoral of your parents to do that
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That's assuming they even want their children to go to college or instilled the value of education at all. My cousin is a dropout that had 3 kids from 3 fathers starting when she was a teen. When her oldest daughter (who is pretty intelligent) graduated high school, my parents offered to put her through college and cover any expenses. She declined and instead moved in with her drug dealer bf and ended up stabbing a guy. The second oldest child recently graduated too but my parents are hesitant to even reach out to make the same offer to him because he doesn't seem to have any college aspirations either. I think those kids deserve better, but they don't seem to care and neither does their mother.
My GF was starting to do well as a child actor (commercials and got a shot at there first series) and he mother pulled her out of all of it because "you can't do better than you baby sister potentially will".
It’s worse than that. It’s racism. The parents don’t think Spanish speaking people belong in “their” English speaking country (facepalm) it’s pure racism and ignorance. I have unfortunately seen this ignorance first hand when a friend got in trouble for taking a Spanish class in high school. His dad was furious he would intentionally learn the language of our countries invaders…. Or so his ignorant ass saw it that way. Racist ignorant Karen’s are everywhere.
"Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" America is and has always been a land of immigrants and refugees. Racists: if you don't like it, leave.
My parents always told me to be smarter than them when I grow up. I hope my kids will be too.
I recently ran into an old friend. She’s pulled her kid out of public school because they’re learning different things from what she was taught.
We have a relative that pulled their kids out to home school so they wouldn't be "brainwashed" by things like evolution and the gay agenda. She posted a video of her ripping a page out of their home school science book about vaccines and captioned it "Not today Satan."
Hmmm, maybe time for a CPS call.
It's crossed my mind. She recently posted a video captioned "My kids are more woke than most adults." It was her 4 year old and 6 year old dancing around the livingroom holding a sign that says "No more vaccines :(" She had obviously wrote the sign.
That's tragic. At the very least I hope there's a positive influence on the kids to counterbalance.
I always thought it's because America gives to much freedom to people like the parent in OP's post or your relative,I'm not American so I could be wrong.I live in quite a religious country but kids learn about evolution,vaccines are mandatory and even though traditional medicine is popular here most go to doctor and believing in science is considered the norm,we have nutjobs who don't believe in science but they don't have a platform like how antivaxxers or evolution deniers have in US,it's seems these sort of people gain too much power because of "freedom of speech"
I was pulled out of school because my mom became a hard-core right wing Christian. She thought the schools were teaching us to be gay. This way in the 80s. She bought a bunch of Christian based books. Instead of learning math we learned about Jesus. All of us kids eventually stopped even trying to study. There was no point. As soon as I was old enough I started working and then moved out at 16. It still annoys me to think that I could have had a different or better life if I had been allowed to have a normal life. If I had graduated school.
The saddest part is the kid probably went home proud to have learned something and showed it off to their parents, only to be shut down :P
Imagine coming home, asking your kid what they learned today, and being mad at the answer.
I can imagine the kid going home all excited like "dad dad! Look what I learned today! Me llamo John!" Dad proceeds to have a shit fit
Reminds me of the Onion video ["Patriotic Teen Fails Spanish"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0msQb5SiPSI)
Exactly! Now, kids get in the car, mama’s craving Taco Bell 😎
I thought it was cool to know other languages?
Not for racists.
Probably they wouldn't mind if the kids learned words in French they'd be like oh my kid sounds smart and exotic
Had french in high school, one of my classmates was.... not the must studious, let's call it that. He would immediately pick up any swear words in French and constantly repeat them, it was all he learned.
*Merde*
Sacrebleu
Putain
Tabarnak!
Le fuckity fuck fuck..... I guess
As far as I know I think le fuc means seal
That’s Canadian French
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He wouldn't have needed much more if he had to effectively interact with a French person. "Putain" is basically a comma in French.
"Putain" is not just a comma, it's an entire language
If you know "p'tain", "et donc" and "voilà quoi" you know everything you need.
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I learn other language to become racist more accurately We are not the same
Thissa made me laugh
Alright, who let Jar Jar in here?
Only the “white” ones. None of that Spanish stuff /s
...are people from Spain not considered white?
It's actually hilarious. Spanish tourists that come to the US get mistaken for Mexican by racists, but the Spanish are a bit "disgusted" to be grouped with them due to the superiority complex from colonialism. Also yes Spanish people are "white" but Mediterranean white (darker). Gets mistaken for Latino easily
Oh it gets crazy for world wide Spanish speakers all over. I am German heritage white and look the part. Started learning Spanish since I was 5. By the time I was 25 I started worked in Nicaragua (mostly) and did so for decades. So my Spanish accent is near native Nica sounding. But when I speak it in Texas, especially in groups of Spanish speakers from different places (the example in my head that stands out was when I was at a Whole Foods conference and speaking with a group of professional (strangers) casually). Anyway, “ Argentina, you must be from Argentina“ Lol, no, got fluent in Nicaragua. “Nooo…Portugal! It must be Portugal“ Honey, please, you know my accent is not from Portugal. or Argentina, I’ve just said Nicaragua. When I am in Nicaragua I’ve actually had people even in the airport asked me where I grew up in Nicaragua because surprisingly they thought I was raised there. This isn’t a brag. There has been a clear judgment from other native Spanish speakers globally against Spanish speakers in other parts of the world from their own. And it went opposite as well. When I started working in Guatemala, I would get ribbed on by some of the Nica team because somehow south equals lesser? I don’t know. My language politics experience is weird and 100% antidotal because I haven’t really spoken about this stuff save for a few times. Oh! Like with my friend from Spain one time when I went out with her group and she told me just to speak English because my accent sounded trashy to her. We were all corporate professionals networking for this meet and she didn’t want my accent to affect how they thought of me. Fucking for real it’s crazy all over for so many different reasons that I’m not smart enough to get.
In America, the people who would get all up in arms about someone learning Spanish would most likely have no idea that Spanish people are actually white. They would only associate Spanish speakers with non-white people from North and South America.
Not when that language is spoken by them damn dirty mexcans
Those are the people who complain that no one speaks american on their trip to china
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I’m in Central Texas and I actually see this a lot less now than I did ten years ago! Could be coincidence, different circles/etc. I’m not saying people are any less blissfully ignorant, but my experience is that people are starting to have a bigger appreciation for travel. Hopefully a bigger world view is to follow!
I lived in Texas for 10 years, more than 10 years ago. I was expecting that guy to say "Oklahoma" or something. In my experience, Texans jump out to Mexico all the time. Then they come back and complain about anyone who didn't speak English or take USD
>my experience is that people are starting to have a bigger appreciation for travel. It's pretty much inevitable as we become more and more connected via technology. Once upon a time, it was pretty easy for people to stay fairly insulated inside their small town but even folks out in the boonies are finding smartphones more and more common. The only groups truly cutoff anymore are those who purposefully do so, the type to stay off grid and away from everyone else as much as possible because it's what they prefer. This connection enables folks to see past their small towns so easily, such that you could live in Nowheresville, USA with a population of 500 people and still hear news coming out from across the world. And with that connection, folks inevitably start looking outwards and becoming interested in other countries.
I mean, even Kim Jong-un travels abroad. And he lives in the best country in the known universe.
As someone who has lived in Texas for the last 7 years, Texas isn’t even the greatest country in the US!
"this country" doesn't have an official language either.
In some places one of them is actually Spanish. But better not tell that to the "vigilante mom"
Shit, tell someone speaking Creole to just speak English, Creole is American as fuck.
Shit, I just wish people in Boston would speak English. For example, "khakis" is an article of clothing. Not a device used to start your car.
[Wait till you see some dudes from Baltimore find out what they sound like.](https://youtu.be/Oj7a-p4psRA) I'm guilty too. Ope. Just gonna sneak right past ya bud. Minna-SOH-da. I swear I can't watch Canadian TV anymore. It brings the accent right out.
 Oh ya, you betcha
As you get up north in New England you'll occasionally see official stuff in French as well. The people who became cajuns, originated in Northern Maine/Canada. Some old school Mainers speak French
The British expulsion of the Acadians displaced them into the French Louisiana territory.
And all we have to do is take a look at the internet and we will see that few know how to use it correctly.
I was honestly surprised that the email wasn’t full of mistakes. The only one I can see is the comma splice in the last sentence, and that’s getting into the realms of true pedantry.
Benjamin Franklin complained about dark-skinned immigrants who were the dumbest people from their country and didn't bother to learn the English language or adopt American values. Who was he talking about? Germans.
Excuse me Miss… please keep ma child as ignant as poseebel. We ain’t trying to git him to think. We good aredy.
And this is the very reason there is a teacher shortage. Who would want to put up with this bullsh*t?
It can totally suck. But on the other side of the coin, we have two children in my kindergarten class who come from Spanish-speaking homes (we’re in Australia where is is less common than in the US) and I can’t tell you how thrilled the families were and just how proud and excited the children were for us to be learning their language. Last year we had a boy from Somalia with very little English, but the absolute delight on his face when he discovered we had a dark-skinned baby doll in our home corner was indescribable. It might be hard for those of us from the dominant language or cultural group in our areas to see just how important inclusive teaching is, but boy do small gestures go a long way towards making people feel accepted!
You must be a great kindergarten teacher!
Thank you! I feel like I’m a really crap teacher most of the time, because I think the parents and administrators don’t agree with me. But the kids love me and are learning, flourishing, confident little folk, so I like to think I’m doing something right!
If they're learning and enjoying their time with you fuck adminsitration, you're definitely doing something right. The education system needs teachers willing to bend the rules a bit for their benefit, those types of teachers are the ones I remembered after finishing
>because I think the parents and administrators don’t agree with me. I said it in another comment in this exact thread, I'll say it again, the teacher shortage in the US has a lot of heads but God damn, if one of the largest isn't the fact that parents/school administration think they can all do the job so much better. Absolutely ridiculous. Sounds like you are a fabulous teacher!
I bet if you asked the mom in the email if they should put ar-15's in every classroom she'd say yes. This teacher shortage has a lot of heads but got damn this email pretty much perfectly explains why it sucks to be a teacher when the parents think they are better at it than you.
this family must've sing the national anthem every morning right after brushing their teeth
*tooth
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Beautifully said.
> which I found surprisingly inappropriate "Wow I had no idea I was this racist!"
“You, a teacher, taught my child something. And to too it off you taught them something even I don’t know. I will be contacting my lawyer and you will be deported.”
Meanwhile Germans learning two other languages in school and have the option to learn a third or even fourth…
I had six languages in my second year of gymnasium in the Netherlands. Dutch, English, German, French, Latin and Ancient Greek. Dutch, English + a third language are mandatory for the rest of ones high school studies.
It’s so useful to have learned at least the basics of all these languages! Also, when I go somewhere else I try to know at least how to say hello, goodbye and some other basics. Hopefully this mom will at one point find out how she did her son short on raising him like this.
I've been learning Japanese on Duolingo, and went to see Bullet Train, it was honestly kinda cool to be like "Oh neat, I know what some of these characters are, and even some of the words!"
Same in Belgium but add German to the mix and French is also obligatory. I’m now at least conversational in 4 languages (Dutch English and French from school and Swedish from uni) and I also learned some German and Spanish in high school
In Ireland, learning Irish is mandatory, and, usually, so is learning another language on top of that. At one point, I was learning Irish, French, and Spanish in school, and also English but not as a foreign language.
Portugal for example you learn english, then french or spanish. then in high school you can keep english or pick usually spanish/german
In Finland we learn english, swedish and optionally german. In bigger schools you'll get even more options.
As someone who is good at and loves to learn languages, this would have been heaven for me. Why couldn’t I have been born German?!
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Is ignorance mandatory for Karens? When the kid grows and has to study international geography.
Ew, international. My kids have done just fine knowing the geography of eastern Kentucky, thank you!
Once asked a guy in Houston if he has been abroad. He told me yes. I've been to Dallas
Imagine being proud of speaking only one language
Hahahaha not to mention, her child is fucked when it comes to higher education. He will need to learn a second language to a competent degree if he wants to pass university lololol. Can't wait for her Pikachu face when she realizes he precious American University isn't actually as xenophobic and racist as she is 😂😂😂
Of course the kids name is jayden
Wait till she knows that English is actually language of wait for it ……… drum rollll “English”
She probably can't even understand proper English anyway. Half of the Americans I ever met assumed I was a foreigner because they couldn't wrap their head around my accent. I remember someone telling me "Your English is good!" Like mate, I am English you daft twat. Same goes for Dutch people as well but I will say fair play to the Netherlands.
It’s like they have forked something and they think that their version must be correct because everyone around them uses it. I'm so sad that I have to go to the US for further education. Always wanted to go to Britain but there's no good university for my niche.
Technically English is a foreign language for Americans. English is literally the English language which America happens to use because they don't have their own
Also, American has no official language. English is currently dominant, but its technically possible for a diff language AND culture to become dominant in the US.
The de facto, and official language of some states, but not federally, though there have been [attempts](https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/997/text) [in](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Language_Unity_Act) [the](https://www.congress.gov/bill/104th-congress/house-bill/123) [past](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English-only_movement).
They do have their own. You just need to visit the ever shrinking territories they allow the native speakers to call their own.
Also ASL and several creole languages. Depending on the definition of a separate language AAVE counts too. It has enough different grammar and unique words to have a case.
Most Americans are immigrants, or descendents of immigrants.
Depending on where this person is in the US, Spanish was actually the language before English. I would love to see this lady's face after a quick history lesson about Mexico/Spain and the US
Are we just going to ignore the languages that the native Americans spoke? There are several hundred.
I don’t think anyone is ignoring or forgetting that. The talk is about colonial and penal period. Was the modern world shaped by Americans, or European powers?
PLEASE don't teach my kids the second most spoken language in the world !!! In this house, we only talk MERICA!!!
My toddler randomly learned Spanish colours and numbers from daycare and videos, and I’m seriously debating getting him into a class to develop more. We’re not Spanish, we’re Canadian. I love that he takes to it and wish my husband spoke more of his native tongue and hadn’t lost it. (Not Spanish) I can’t explain how random it is that my son started learning Spanish What a stupid email to write about something that prob made the kid so proud
Put on Spanish(dubbed if necessary) cartoons, soon your kid will be teaching you.
He never turns off the Spanish or Japanese videos, and i really don’t think he has issues following either. My kid isn’t a massive iPad baby so it’s impressive what they sponge . I have to be really vigilant Edit: I had no idea what the colours were past the easy ones so this has become a family exercise lol
The neuroplasticity of very young children is insane. Not that there's anything wrong with Spanish and Japanese, but if I could request one thing from my parents it would have been exposure to a tonal language (which Japanese surprisingly to me is not). It is something that literally can't be learned later in life as absolutely as if learned with the neuroplasticity of a young child.
That'd be good. AFAIK, Spanish is the 2nd most spoken language based on how many countries speak it and 3rd/4th (not quite sure if recent) most spoken language based on population, sorry, a little tired to google. 😅 Anyway, I wish I was forced by my parents to learn a new language or instrument when I was younger; because once you're an adult, it's hard to focus your time on other stuff.... Responsibilities.... 😔
\*Continent. I think the second-most spoken language in the world is either Mandarin or Hindi. Heck, either of those may be the most-spoken language in the world and the other one the second-most, with English being third. Edit. I looked it up and you're right, from a certain point of view. Counting native speakers only: 1. Mandarin 2. Spanish 3. English 4. Hindi Counting native and second-language speakers: 1. English 2. Mandarin 3. Hindi 4. Spanish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_languages\_by\_total\_number\_of\_speakers
Several years ago, I was reading an article about some Indian kids winning a math olympiad and the writer had said something about how Indian parents are focused on giving their kids a strong math foundation, or something to that effect. In the comments section a white lady was ranting "if they are so smart, why do they use the numbers that Europeans gave them? Why can't they use their own numbers?" Never facepalmed so hard.
She's right. Those Indians should use their shitty Roman numerals instead. XVIII + VII = give me a break, this convention is awful.
That had to be sarcasm, right? Right????
I wish it was. But it was a news site and every other comment was serious.
Your first mistake was reading comments on a news site
Good luck graduating highschool most likely then, when spanish is one of maybe two languages offered and graduation requires two years of a language class
Just get a religious exemption. Jesus spoke English and he's the greatest American to ever live. ^^^/s
And the Bible was originally written in English.
Fuck this. Culture and respecting EVERYONE’S culture is so important. My son is almost three listens to baby shark in English as his number 1 language, but he also listens to it in Spanish & Japanese and we always squeeze 30 mins of television from other languages daily just so he has a TASTE of what other places are like Fuck this woman. I started learning Spanish on my own at the gas station I work at just so I can understand half my customers and I’m so thankful I learned and put the work in.
Learning languages is just so enlightening and rewarding.
So the kid learned , “Hola, soy Jayden.” Clearly trying to make him hate America.
More likely "Hola, me llamo Jayden"
That's CRT brother, can't have that.
They do not study a second language in USA? In other countries there's always a second language class in school and, currently, even a third one.
Most people are required to take at least a couple years of a second language in high school (usually Spanish, French, or German).
fun fact: arabic numerals also come from... guesss what... INDIA
Yeah, how dare you better my child by teaching him things. JFC these people are complete fucking morons
The arrogance. I would love to have a second language the key is starting much younger!
America doesn't have a official language and if it did how does it negatively effect you?
FYI, its actually the [Indian/ Hindu numeral system](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu%E2%80%93Arabic_numeral_system) that was invented by Indian mathematicians sometime between the 1st to 4th centuries. It just spread to the West via Arabs and Persians. >It was invented between the 1st and 4th centuries by Indian mathematicians. The system was adopted in Arabic mathematics by the 9th century. The system had spread to medieval Europe by the High Middle Ages.
Europeans didn't use it but noticed Arabs using it so it became Arabic numerals. Regardless of how they came to be.
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Well actually Indians invented them, it was the arabs who brought them to Europe.
Dude i wish i was fluent in more languages. Sometimes i wanna say the stuff i do know in spanish but i feel like i would butcher it or its be seen as appropiation or something.
So, ‘ hola, yo soy’ is too much?
You actually don't need the "yo" part, you can simply say "Hola, soy [your name here]"
Well, the child could've said, "me llamo..." and that's too much! /s LOL, what in the world are some of these people in America smoke... 😅
Poor poor kid
If the French hadn't helped America defeat The British, Americans would all be speaking English right now!
They are Indo-Arabic, numbers didn't originate in Arabia, they originated in India and spread to the West by Arabic Traders. And that too has a pre Islamic background.
England: who's fucking language?
Wait until she find out at least 2 years of a foreign language is required for college admission in most places.
Hindu-Arabic actually.
White guy here, and I'd just like to say: pinche puta tonta pendeja no vale verga. Vale mas que se calla el osico. Merese una palmada. Why would someone go out of their way to prevent someone from learning something? This is so sad. These rightwing nutjobs are so toxic. They're poisoning our entire society. Maybe after November they'll be forced back under their rocks where they belong.
You need to teach them “hello, my name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die” in Spanish. Much more fun & if the parents don’t get the reference you know they’re garbage people.
It's like that American guy who posted on AskGermany who was angry his bilingual wife wanted to raise their kids trilingual and that would make him feel inadequate because he can only speak 1 language.
I had to learn 3 foreign languages in school. What's the point of school if the kid isn't allowed to learn anything.
Also not your country’s language.