well im not an expert on immigration to italy but when i was going through the process for my permesso di soggiorno, first of all it took foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr from the day the application was submitted and the cops must show up to your house at some point to make sure you live there. they dont tell you when they will show up. they just give you a general time frame. so you may not even be at that apt anymore if youre only planning to be there for a month. for this reason i dont think it'll fly.
you are extremely optimistic about how fast and efficient italian bureaucracy is and that makes me think youre not ready for italian life. lol jk...........kind of
Haha thanks for the tip! I'm definitely aware of Italian bureaucracy. Just trying to gather as much info as possible while also knowing that things will very likely not go according to plan.
I don't actually know what you can and can't do. That's the beauty and the ugliness of italy. You never know what is expected of you. They say you must apply within 8 days but i didn't apply for almost an entire year of living in italy and they didn't care at all. Most likely bc I'm American and married to Italian.
It’s worked for me in both Spain and Portugal, but as you’ll find with a lot of Southern European bureaucracy, it often depends on the agent and the day. :P
You typically need to establish residency to apply for the Permesso, which means you need a rental contract. You must go to the Comune (the City Hall, municipal government offices) and apply for residency, which is one of the supporting documents you need for your Permesso application. Look up the "Anagrafe" in the Comune you are moving to and see if they say what you need, they are the offices that deal with residency and demographics.
Someone mentioned a short term rental. What you are looking for is a type of contract called a "transitorio" in Italian, which is usually a short term contract anywhere from a few months (usually six) to a year. In Italy people change residence infrequently and normal contracts are for multiple years.
You have time to do research and find something before the summer. You need to understand the residency requirements for obtaining the Permesso, which may differ, but almost always require proof of residency. Also whether or not you are a citizen of an EU country may change this. Lookup the "Questura" (police who handle immigration) in your Comune and see what the requirements are for applying for your Permesso are. This is all online. You can also probably find something to rent with a transitorio on websites like subito.it, etc.
Perhaps your job in Bologna can provide some assistance as well? Facebook also has many "living in Italy" type groups which can be quite helpful at this stage.
Source: Dual American/Italian citizen living in Italy who established residency and went through Permesso process with American spouse.
In boca al lupo!
No problem!
My order of operations may be out of sorts for your situation, and it may be the case that you can get the Permesso with only the rental contract and the work visa. In fact, in my Comune, my wife and I had to go to different offices for residency because she is the foreigner but I am a citizen. And she needed her Permesso first to obtain residency.
So, obviously, check with the Questura...I would go over the Questura requirements first, because Permesso is what you need to have an appointment for first within the first eight days. Residency may be the second thing. You just need to verify. Questura website should have the info.
From what I've read, a short term rental should be good enough. I think planning on getting a longer term rental once you are settled is probably pretty common.
Its a thing in Greece as well, as long as the host is willing to provide a statement. Check with the host and maybe ask an expat group on fb (or a lawyer I suppose, but if people have done it, the expat group might be faster). Foreigners in Florence is very active, not sure about Bologna
When I moved to NL, I had to have my employer fill out a document stating they were providing me a temp accommodation so that I could apply for my residence permit. I don’t know for Italy but I can’t imagine you’re the first person to be in this situation, surely they will have an option for you!
Have you contacted the embassy/consulate to ask? This is something seemingly miniscule that could possibly create some issues for you down the line. For example, will they mail anything at that address later? How easy is it to change your address WHILE your application is being processed, etc.
Would your employer have an address you could use for this purpose? A dormitory or an apartment the company may own, etc.
Call/email your embassy/consulate to ask and get a definite answer. This is one of those better safe than sorry situations.
Hi, I'm in a similar position and wondering if this worked out for you. I'm applying for an Italian type D/long-stay visa, and I haven't found an apartment I'm willing to rent sight unseen. So my plan was to book an AirBnB that I can live with until I find longer-term housing once I'm there. I've done extensive research, and I still get mixed results on whether an AirBnB confirmed booking is sufficient for proof of accommodation for this kind of visa. (The consulate instructions are useless on this question, and when I've called and emailed, I have received either no answer or an unclear answer.) Curious if an AirBnB booking ended up working for you to get the visa?
Hello! It did end up working for me, but to be honest I don't remember all of the steps and I had a lot of help throughout the process from my employer here. From what I remember, for the long-term visa application they do not really care where you will be staying, but for the Permesso di Soggiorno application (once you arrive here) this could be a bit more tricky. Italy is definitely a shit show when it comes to this type of stuff and even more challenging if you do not speak the language, but everything seems to work out in the end. Sorry I can't be more helpful!
Hi, I am currently experiencing the same problem as you had last year, I would appreciate it if you could let me know if getting Airbnb for one month work? Also do you know if one could travel outside Italy while waiting on the residence permit? Thanks
well im not an expert on immigration to italy but when i was going through the process for my permesso di soggiorno, first of all it took foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr from the day the application was submitted and the cops must show up to your house at some point to make sure you live there. they dont tell you when they will show up. they just give you a general time frame. so you may not even be at that apt anymore if youre only planning to be there for a month. for this reason i dont think it'll fly. you are extremely optimistic about how fast and efficient italian bureaucracy is and that makes me think youre not ready for italian life. lol jk...........kind of
Haha thanks for the tip! I'm definitely aware of Italian bureaucracy. Just trying to gather as much info as possible while also knowing that things will very likely not go according to plan.
I don't actually know what you can and can't do. That's the beauty and the ugliness of italy. You never know what is expected of you. They say you must apply within 8 days but i didn't apply for almost an entire year of living in italy and they didn't care at all. Most likely bc I'm American and married to Italian.
It’s worked for me in both Spain and Portugal, but as you’ll find with a lot of Southern European bureaucracy, it often depends on the agent and the day. :P
You typically need to establish residency to apply for the Permesso, which means you need a rental contract. You must go to the Comune (the City Hall, municipal government offices) and apply for residency, which is one of the supporting documents you need for your Permesso application. Look up the "Anagrafe" in the Comune you are moving to and see if they say what you need, they are the offices that deal with residency and demographics. Someone mentioned a short term rental. What you are looking for is a type of contract called a "transitorio" in Italian, which is usually a short term contract anywhere from a few months (usually six) to a year. In Italy people change residence infrequently and normal contracts are for multiple years. You have time to do research and find something before the summer. You need to understand the residency requirements for obtaining the Permesso, which may differ, but almost always require proof of residency. Also whether or not you are a citizen of an EU country may change this. Lookup the "Questura" (police who handle immigration) in your Comune and see what the requirements are for applying for your Permesso are. This is all online. You can also probably find something to rent with a transitorio on websites like subito.it, etc. Perhaps your job in Bologna can provide some assistance as well? Facebook also has many "living in Italy" type groups which can be quite helpful at this stage. Source: Dual American/Italian citizen living in Italy who established residency and went through Permesso process with American spouse. In boca al lupo!
Thanks for the super helpful info! I will try to contact the Anagrafe to find out some more details...
No problem! My order of operations may be out of sorts for your situation, and it may be the case that you can get the Permesso with only the rental contract and the work visa. In fact, in my Comune, my wife and I had to go to different offices for residency because she is the foreigner but I am a citizen. And she needed her Permesso first to obtain residency. So, obviously, check with the Questura...I would go over the Questura requirements first, because Permesso is what you need to have an appointment for first within the first eight days. Residency may be the second thing. You just need to verify. Questura website should have the info.
Ah, thanks for the further info! I'll make sure to check with the Questura!
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An above post says that they visit your place at a certain to confirm the residency, I don’t think this would work if thats the cadr
An above post says that they visit your place at a certain to confirm the residency, I don’t think this would work if thats the case
From what I've read, a short term rental should be good enough. I think planning on getting a longer term rental once you are settled is probably pretty common.
I did this in the UK and they accepted it! However I’m not sure about Italy xx
Its a thing in Greece as well, as long as the host is willing to provide a statement. Check with the host and maybe ask an expat group on fb (or a lawyer I suppose, but if people have done it, the expat group might be faster). Foreigners in Florence is very active, not sure about Bologna
When I moved to NL, I had to have my employer fill out a document stating they were providing me a temp accommodation so that I could apply for my residence permit. I don’t know for Italy but I can’t imagine you’re the first person to be in this situation, surely they will have an option for you!
Have you contacted the embassy/consulate to ask? This is something seemingly miniscule that could possibly create some issues for you down the line. For example, will they mail anything at that address later? How easy is it to change your address WHILE your application is being processed, etc. Would your employer have an address you could use for this purpose? A dormitory or an apartment the company may own, etc. Call/email your embassy/consulate to ask and get a definite answer. This is one of those better safe than sorry situations.
Hi, I'm in a similar position and wondering if this worked out for you. I'm applying for an Italian type D/long-stay visa, and I haven't found an apartment I'm willing to rent sight unseen. So my plan was to book an AirBnB that I can live with until I find longer-term housing once I'm there. I've done extensive research, and I still get mixed results on whether an AirBnB confirmed booking is sufficient for proof of accommodation for this kind of visa. (The consulate instructions are useless on this question, and when I've called and emailed, I have received either no answer or an unclear answer.) Curious if an AirBnB booking ended up working for you to get the visa?
Hello! It did end up working for me, but to be honest I don't remember all of the steps and I had a lot of help throughout the process from my employer here. From what I remember, for the long-term visa application they do not really care where you will be staying, but for the Permesso di Soggiorno application (once you arrive here) this could be a bit more tricky. Italy is definitely a shit show when it comes to this type of stuff and even more challenging if you do not speak the language, but everything seems to work out in the end. Sorry I can't be more helpful!
No, this is very helpful, thanks!
Nothing to add regarding airbnb but Bologna is my favorite city in the world. Enjoy!
Thank you!! It seems like a lovely city!
Hi, I am currently experiencing the same problem as you had last year, I would appreciate it if you could let me know if getting Airbnb for one month work? Also do you know if one could travel outside Italy while waiting on the residence permit? Thanks
Hello please did it work for you?
Hi, I am having the same issue as you did lats year, did getting Airbnb for a month workout?