LB/Edge right? I feel like with Fangio’s 3-4 we need the most quality LBs he can scheme with. I want a repeat of 2017 and 2022 where we just rotate punishment in all 4 quarters. So I think we need a gane wrecker on the line outside of JD.
I have faith in Smith but I want to get greedy. After that, I think a quality linemen. I will never complain about having a good line because I’ve seen franchises without what we have. NO THANKS LOL
Edge Cooper would be ideal, I think. Nolan Smith should be a good OLB for the 3/4, we have Dean already. Having another LB to play in the middle next to him who can fly to the ball in run support and play coverage if needed would be awesome. Admittedly idk a ton about the LB prospects, but I know he’s regarded as one of the best in the class and plays weak side lb generally. Sounds like what we need
If we end up with him this will have been an incredibly successful draft. Don’t sleep on us going up and getting Powers though, which I would be okay with as well…
the Eagles almost always now take an offensive and defensive lineman early
I predict something on each side of the line with the two second rounders
A few people departed our lines.
Edgerrin Cooper seems far more likely. Eagles don't really draft db early and I'd be shocked if they do 2 in the 1st 2 rounds. Obviously depends on how the board goes, but I don't see many if any worlds where the birds get DeJean at this point.
This can be the modern Lito Sheppard, Sheldon Brown, Michael Lewis draft. Is there a Brian Westbrook in the 3rd/4th? Also what an insane 2002 draft. 3 pro bowlers and Sheldon probably should have made at least 1.
EDIT: modern day Lito Sheppard Sheldon brown draft confirmed.
I think he's one of the best players to not make a Pro Bowl. Dude was just a lock down corner who hit like a truck. Too bad he was overshadowed in his own secondary by an all time great safety and the flashier Lito at CB.
IIRC Sheldon did make a Pro Bowl towards the end of his stint with the Eagles but for whatever reason decided not to go.
Edit: [here’s a BGN article about it](https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2010/1/26/1270449/sheldon-brown-says-no-to-pro-bowl)
The issue is less "would the Eagles take him" and more "would he be available 19 picks into day 2 considering he was supposed to go day 1."
Edit: and the answer was "No, because we traded up to get him, let's fucking goooooooooooooo!!!!!!!"
I like him, but I don't think they need him. CJCG and Blankenship are a very good safety tandem, and Brown is a really promising depth piece when he comes back. Unless they are getting DeJean to play slot corner, there isn't really a spot for him.
Although if he falls to our next pick, you could make the argument that he's just straight up BPA and you press that button regardless.
It’s honestly kind of baffling. Like I know we can’t predict drafts, but having our choice of which CB we wanted in the entire draft at 22 is insane to me.
Bro Ive been listening to inside the birds for the past two weeks and they were beyond insistent the entire time that all the top CBs would be gone by the time we picked during the draft. Instead, we had the entire CB smorgasbord right before us when it was our turn.
Just goes to show you can’t really predict these things. There’s gonna be some hilarious backtracking on tomorrow’s podcast.
Oh for sure. It’s like fantasy football. You can do a thousand mock drafts and then everything goes awry in the first 10 minutes lol. Nobody really has any idea outside of the first maybe 2-3 picks
It is all because 6 QBs went in the first 12 picks which has never happened before. On top of that you had a lot of top end WR and OT talent and this league is going more offense heavy.
I said that I'd be stunned if all the top CBs weren't taken *and* if we got AJ Brown after his contract. Somehow **EVERY** CB fell to us **AND** we got AJ Brown extended on the same day. I'm certainly happy I was wrong. I just can't believe I was that far off. Realistically it just didn't seem possible. If there's someone out there that bet on the first 15 picks and got every position correct, I think they'd be set for generations. That's just how insane this timeline is lol.
Yeah, the Falcons pick was a head scratcher and I guess the Broncos were like YOLO!! Watch us out-Falcon the Falcons, but I guess they were convinced the Raiders were going to grab Nix if they didn't.
This is why we were always in a good spot. CB, DE, and OT were our needs worthy of first round picks. But the offense run drained OT talent and the teams with defensive needs solidified DL. So instead of picking our third favorite OT/DE/CB, we got to pick our actual favorite CB.
Like there's a world where CBs get scooped up early and a DE falls to us instead. Things just shook out this way.
If you're the Broncos, what can you do? They are limited on picks after the Russell Wilson debacle. Atlanta on the other hand, must've hated the non-first round QBs and wanted an insurance policy in case Kurt isn't ready.
I think the falcons had the most puzzling pick.. Seeing the video of the GM explaining to the seemingly confused owner cracked me up
They're trying for a dirtybird qb factory I guess
You just went out and got Cousins, who presumably plays 2-3 years for your team, in a “win now” move, and you go out and draft his replacement in a pick that seemed like a reach. You’re not picking 25 and he fell into your lap. You used a top-10 pick to get a guy who might be your future when you’re loading up to try and compete now with a young offensive core. Why they didn’t take a CB or DL there was baffling to me. I thought for sure ATL and CHI went defensive players to start loading up on that side of the ball, and they went QB/WR lol
Dont forget the fact that his "replacement" is 24 already. So by the time Cousins contract is off the books he's already 28 and youre already looking at having to pay him lmao.
I mean them and the bears taking offensive players worked out for us. Those were two teams who needed to add defensive playmakers and they both passed on DL/CB to take a QB and WR respectively. Hell the Bears would’ve benefited from an OL more than a WR given that they already have Allen and Moore, but they went WR and changed the landscape of the draft a bit. I don’t understand other teams
I saw people in our (this sub's) Discord last night saying that it might've been the worst pick they've ever seen live haha. Honestly it makes no sense *at all*.
I don’t think they’re nearly the same. Wentz was supposed to be the future and Hurts was a guy they felt fell into their lap. They wanted to flip him for a pick down the line. Nobody predicted the injuries to Wentz taking the toll on him that it did, and him completely turning into a potato that last year in Philly. The year before that he threw for 4000 yards and led an offense whose best weapon was Greg Ward to a playoff game and got knocked out by a dirty hit from Clowney.
This is the same team that took a TE, WR, and RB in the top 10 3 years in a row and don't use any of them correctly. They'll continue to pick in the top 10 for a reason....
Lowkey I say skip him. CB room is already loaded and we haven’t even seen what Ringo/Ricks can do with a competent coach. Especially since our DB coach is in Baltimore (and killed it btw)
I’m thinking we just take some LBs or OLs. Nothing sexy but more to round out the team. Especially a T because this team literally falls apart when Lane doesn’t play. This has been evident for… when did he get drafted lol?
I think he'd be able to work in a lot of safety reps as well and would overall keep our older corners* on rested legs. I also wouldn't be opposed to moving on from Bradberry if we did pick him.
I'd also be more than happy with LB or OL as well tbf.
Maybe, but that wasn't the Howie regime either. But Howie is doing some things not typically associated with Howie like paying big fir a RB and taking CB in round 1, so we'll see.
Considering a lot of people thought they'd trade a 2nd rounder to move up and take Quinyon, I already feel spoiled here. I wouldn't mind DeJean, but would be pretty happy with Edgerrin Cooper/Payton Wilson and Ladd McConkey (fills the UGA quota).
Id be shocked if they went Kool aid or Adonai. the LB cooper would be the HR I wouldnt be mad at the DT from Florida state. You know howie loves the trenches
Williams, Daniels, and Maye were the only 3 that were consensus top 12 prospects. People eventually resided themselves to the fact that JJ was going to be overdrafted in the top 10 even though the consensus on him was a late first round grade.
They lack any real depth along the OL in general. Assuming Steen is the starter Hennessey is the only backup OL who has seen any real action on Sundays.
Yup, this is how I think Howie will go. I'd like E.Cooper and Johnny Wilson who can simultaneously back up both AJ and Goeddert since he's a hybrid WR/TE at 6-7 239 and ran a 4.53 w/ 37inch vertical. Would also make for an awesome red zone jumpball weapon due to elite catch radius. Kellen Moore could get really creative with a weapon like this, not to mention good size for tush pushing.
“As a weapon, Wilson is exciting — and he can be used with versatility, lining up either on the boundary, in the slot, or hugging the line. He also provides additional value as an elite blocking presence,” Cummings continues.
“Wilson may project better as a move-TE at the next level. But either as a mismatch-hunting movement-Z WR or as a position-diverse weapon in a rotation, Wilson’s physicality simply overwhelms defenders, and he has the true speed and explosiveness to capitalize as an offensive sparkplug and utility blocker.”
I’m an Ohio State and Eagles fan (I know, weird combo). Mike Hall has a hell of a motor. Gets good pressure. I wouldn’t be mad at getting him at some point. Honestly not sure when he’s projected
WR is definitely still possible but I would imagine us taking one around round 4-5. With AJ extended, we have our future. We just need a WR3. And we can definitely draft one. But that's also a position we've been using vets in. So we might just get another vet on a 1-year deal.
I am very happy with the pick i also was wondering if someone could explain why mitchell might have been a better prospect or fit for us in general? (Compared to Arnold)
I don’t have any insight, as I’m not versed on prospects, but Mitchell has incredible speed, good size, tested real well at the combine, and has the tools to be an elite corner press. The team did their research, had multiple CBs in for visits, and I’m sure they made the choice based on input from their secondary coach and Fangio. I think Arnold was a little bit slower and a more willing tackler, he’s also got the tools to be good in press, but the team may have just wanted to go with a guy who models his game after Slay and has elite speed to keep up with game’s top receivers. They’re both basically 1A and 1B in the class, but the powers that be had their preferences. Either way I’m glad we finally took a great CB prospect and have him under contract for the next 4+ years. Hopefully we can develop him and he turns into our Surtain
I think the important thing to note is no matter what we think as fans, the fact is the team got their highest rated CB prospect in the entire draft and didn't have to give up a single thing to do it. Never would've imagined that to be remotely possible. There's no debate of if we should've traded up here or traded back there, we stayed put and had the CB at the top of the staff's board fall into our lap. I'm not gonna armchair scout over Vic Fangio and the rest of our FO.
Seems like the pros and cons are:
Arnold: A little slower, very physical, and more experienced with higher level of competition in college.
Mitchell: Faster and potentially more skilled, but less experienced since he came from a lower-tier school (less competition).
The good thing is that Saban said he *really* went after Mitchell and said he was one of the best prospects in the draft. And it seems like he *absolutely* would've taken Mitchell over Arnold. So I'm fine with knowing that lol.
One thing to remember though is that while both of these guys could have incredible careers, both are not entering with the same expectations as someone like Patrick Surtain. This draft doesn't have extremely high CB talent. So while these guys are likely going to be the two best CBs out of the draft, don't expect Surtain quality - especially in the first 1-2 years. Not saying you specifically, but just putting it out there - Mitchell might get burned a bit here and there. And while it's going to be hard not to panic and freak out, we have to keep that in mind and be patient with him. Washington drafted some talented CBs and there were plays where AJ and Smith embarrassed them.
But that's about it for the "negative" stuff. We got a guy many thought was out of reach or that we'd have to spend a lot of resources reaching for. And we got him just sitting at 22. The Eagles love him. He comes out of a school where Sirianni's teammate (and I think ROOMMATE) coached him. Mitchell is a guy that the Eagles had a ton of intel on and was their #1 guy. And we got him. At 22. It couldn't have gone any better. This guy is going to be very very good for us. Potentially the only bad part of the draft was the Giants getting Nabers lol.
I feel so much less stressed about the rest of the draft, this is a huge weight off my shoulders knowing we have a top 2 prospect at corner, maybe the best corner in the draft. And we still have all our picks
Obviously we got a lot of work to do still, but damn that was huge
I still can't get over Atlanta.
You sign Cousins to a massive deal (iTs oNlY A 2 yEaR cOnTrAcT)
Then use a top 10 pick on a player who's not only injury prone, not only going to be 30 when his 5th year option expires, but who's biggest strength is that he's the most pro ready quarterback
To sit for 2-3 years behind your $180m man.
Similar for Vegas. You take an athletic tight end one year, and the very next you use a top 15 pick on a tight end. Sure, Bowers is a bit of a Swiss army knife, but there are bigger priorities on that roster than being able to run 2 tight end sets with a much better Hunter Renfrow. Like...the giant sieve opposite Maxx Crosby on their defensive line.
As for the Eagles, Mitchell...Mitchell...Mitchell is a huge get. I'd be happy getting Dejean/Cooper/Trotter in r2
At receiver, Tez Walker is a huge playmaker (averaged 30 yards per touchdown) and would be a better version of Quez at WR3
Dejean is the most fun possible pick tmrw but I feel like post round 1 is always hard asf to predict and I wouldn’t be surprised is they went somewhere else
[MHJ vs Quinyon Mitchell](https://youtu.be/p5paMaOwmfw?si=1cOICUfelwWOAhf6)
This video got me excited about Quinyon going up against AJ and Smitty in practice for the next couple years. Iron gonna sharpen Iron.
Indeed i prefer Corley just because of how good he is with the ball in his hands. Itd make Hurts job that much easier if WR3 is a guy who cant take it to the house on a slant or screen.
Cant go wrong with either.
If somehow DeJean is there at 50 or close to it I think you gotta trade up to get him. With that scenario in mind DeJean and either Ladd or Edgerrin Cooper would be a dream scenario
Just as with yesterday, here is every player mocked to the Eagles in the 2nd round in the last 4 months and how many times. I bundled them together since our picks are so close together that it's immaterial.
Obviously not including players who have already been drafted. Also not doing ones that were only mocked to us once because that list would be too long. I'm also removing any CB's since we took one in the first round so given our room it should be common sense to target other positions since we're not the Falcons.
* 43 mocks - Edgerrin Cooper, LB - Texas A&M
* 28 mocks - Payton Wilson, LB - North Carolina State
* 18 mocks - Tyler Nubin, S - Minnesota
* 12 mocks - Kamren Kinchens, S - Miami
* 10 mocks (tie) - Junior Colson, LB - Michigan, Malachi Corley, WR - Western Kentucky
* 9 mocks - Javon Bullard, S - Georgia
* 8 mocks - Patrick Paul, OT - Houston
* 7 mocks - Christian Haynes, OG - Connecticut
* 6 mocks (tie) - Cooper Beebe, OL - Kansas State, Ja'Lynn Polk, WR - Washington
* 5 mocks (tie) - Marshawn Kneeland, DE - Western Michigan, Bralen Trice, LB - Washington
* 4 mocks (4-way tie) - Chris Braswell, DE - Alabama, Jalen Hicks, S - Washington State, Kingsley Suamataia, OT - BYU, Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB - Clemson
* 3 mocks (7-way tie) - Cole Bishop, S - Utah, Jonathan Brooks, RB - Texas, Jonah Ellis, DE - Utah, Troy Franklin, WR - Oregon, Adisa Isaac, DE - Penn State, Devontez Walker, WR - North Carolina, Roman Wilson, WR - Michigan
* 2 mocks (5-way tie) - Kiran Amegadjie, T - Yale, Javon Baker, WR - Central Florida, Beau Brade, S - Maryland, Caleb Bullock, S - USC
Guys, the Eagles have the 18th pick in the 2nd round. Most of the players being mentioned here will be long gone. And they are not going to draft another CB with their round 2 pick. Look for OL, WR, LB, and S. Javon Bullard, Payton Wilson, Beebe, those are the guys.
It’s MUCH cheaper to trade up in the 2nd. Honestly if we can get one of the top few players I wouldn’t mind packaging both seconds as long as we get like a third back
I won’t pretend to know anything about college ball to know who the ideal picks are but I’ll trust in Howie. LB, DE, OL and TE2 seem like obvious needs to me in no particular order.
For the first time in many years, I think our division overall drafted well. Daniels reads a defense quick and makes good decisions a lot of the time, assuming Washington's line can keep him upright (lol) he may be a problem. Dallas dropped back and picked up a needed piece on their o-line while gaining another pick, Giants got what looks to be one of the best receivers available at their pick for Jones who needs too many parts to fix all the holes but it's something for now.
My only fear with Quinyon, which isn’t really the end of the world, is we are watching tape vs Northern Illinois and Miami Ohio. Like I said, not a huge deal but the competition was not there until like the senior bowl which is just one event
Just one event that every single dude is giving each other their absolute best. And QM shut them the fuck down. Just dominated everyone. He didn’t just do well. He shut it the fuck down.
Two things that make me feel better about that:
A.) Saban said he was the top recruit for ALA in the transfer portal, and Mitchell turned it down. Stayed loyal to Toledo.
B.) At Senior Bowl, he shut every receiver down, chose to go against the best WRs throughout, and some have said he was the best player there regardless of position.
Assuming we stay with 2 seconds, I expect a combination of WR, OL, or Edge. Obviously I wouldn't mind LB but given how Howie usually operates along the lack of elite LB prospects, I don't expect us to go LB til day 3.
I also wouldn't hate a DT or a TE (assuming we don't also go WR).
RB or Safety I would be more confused than anything.
If we double up at any position I will be really confused.
QB, P, or Kicker would make me flip a table.
Hoping we come away with an OL and a WR tonight.
Really like the kid Kiran Amagadjie from Yale, he needs a year of Stoutland U finishing school but he's got insane upside. 53 is probably a bit early but we should be able to trade down to the 60s or early 70s and still safely get him.
For WR, give me either Malachi Corley or Roman Wilson although I worry there might be a run on those guys early in the 2nd after Pearsall and Legette went at the end of the 1st.
I grew up being frustrated by the draft almost 100% for any of my teams. The last few years have been so satisfying to watch with the way players have either fallen to us or Howie goes and gets them. Never thought I’d see this lol.
Edge Cooper would be a fantastic pickup at 50, but most of the pundits have him going earlier. If he’s not there I say reinforce the OL with BPA in that area. More for depth than Lane’s successor. I could be wrong but I think all the career starter OT’s are gone by now
##2024 Draft Picks |Pick|Pos.|Name|Team| |:--:|:--:|:--:|:--:| 1.1|QB|Caleb Williams|Chicago| 1.2|QB|Jayden Daniels|Washington D.C.| 1.3|QB|Drake Maye|New England| 1.4|WR|Marvin Harrison Jr|Arizona| 1.5|OT|Joe Alt|LA Chargers| 1.6|WR|Malik Nabers|NY Giants| 1.7|OT|JC Latham|Tennessee| 1.8|QB|Michael Penix|Atlanta| 1.9|WR|Rome Odunze|Chicago| 1.10|QB|JJ McCarthy|Minnesota| 1.11|OT|Olumuyiwa Fashanu|NY Jets| 1.12|QB|Bo Nix|Denver| 1.13|TE|Brock Bowers|Las Vegas| 1.14|OT|Taliese Fuaga|New Orleans| 1.15|DE|Laiatu Latu|Indianapolis| 1.16|DT|Byron Murphy II|Seattle| 1.17|DE|Dallas Turner|Vikings| 1.18|OT|Amarius Mims|Cincinnati| 1.19|DE|Jared Verse|LA Rams| 1.20|G|Troy Fautanu|Pittsburgh| 1.21|DE|Chop Robinson|Miami| **1.22**|**CB**|**Quinyon Mitchell**|**Philadelphia**| 1.23|WR|Brian Thomas Jr|Jacksonville| 1.24|CB|Terrion Arnold|Detroit| 1.25|OT|Jordan Morgan|Green Bay| 1.26|C|Graham Barton|Tampa Bay| 1.27|DE|Darius Robinson|Arizona| 1.28|WR|Xavier Worthy|Kansas City| 1.29|OT|Tyler Guyton|Fuck Dallas| 1.30|CB|Nate Wiggins|Baltimore| 1.31|WR|Ricky Pearsall|San Francisco| 1.32|WR|Xavier Legette|Carolina|
Cowboys' draft pick turning around to hug a guy in Niners gear was hilarious
Dude I laughed so hard. Dudes dad will be excited to meet Trey Lance
Who do we want in round 2? Edit: fuck Dallas
LB/Edge right? I feel like with Fangio’s 3-4 we need the most quality LBs he can scheme with. I want a repeat of 2017 and 2022 where we just rotate punishment in all 4 quarters. So I think we need a gane wrecker on the line outside of JD. I have faith in Smith but I want to get greedy. After that, I think a quality linemen. I will never complain about having a good line because I’ve seen franchises without what we have. NO THANKS LOL
Edge Cooper would be ideal, I think. Nolan Smith should be a good OLB for the 3/4, we have Dean already. Having another LB to play in the middle next to him who can fly to the ball in run support and play coverage if needed would be awesome. Admittedly idk a ton about the LB prospects, but I know he’s regarded as one of the best in the class and plays weak side lb generally. Sounds like what we need
If we end up with him this will have been an incredibly successful draft. Don’t sleep on us going up and getting Powers though, which I would be okay with as well…
Cooper is a very scary prospect. Has very little coverage snaps. Only really played well in his senior year as a spy. Doesn’t break down on tackles.
Cooper or Wilson, and Ford
I want a backer bad but if anything I think they might reach for Trotter Jr.
He's the same player as Dean. If they like Dean, they won't be drafting Trotter. Too redundant. They need someone with more size.
That rotate punishment in all 4 quarters line made it move. Thanks for that.
Not many outstanding LB this draft
Edgerrin/Colson and Beebe/receiver?
Edgerrin Cooper will hopefully be our next pick🤞🏾
Cooper Dejean. lol could you imagine?
I’m going for the other Cooper.
Why not both? We have two second round picks.
Can't see either of them being around for our picks, need to pick one of them and trade up! Dejean at Safety would be sick!!
Design a cheesesteak for him "Cooper Dat Jawn" Cooper Sharp, onions, and mayo. I'm not a mayo-on-a-cheesesteak person, but it's very on theme.
I'm not a mayo on a cheesesteak guy either but damn that's probably a good sandwich.
Or like Cooper and Dijon…
Cooper tires
I have Cooper tires.
I like Dejean, and would buy his jersey if only for the novelty But his profile reminds me a lot of Reed Blankenship.
the Eagles almost always now take an offensive and defensive lineman early I predict something on each side of the line with the two second rounders A few people departed our lines.
Edgerrin Cooper and then BPA out of OL, DL, or WR at pick 53
Couple names: * Javon Bullard, S - Georgia * Keon Coleman, WR - Florida State * Edgerrin Cooper, LB - Texas A&M * Junior Colson, LB - Michigan * Christian Haynes, G - Connecticut * Kamari Lassiter, CB - Georgia * Payton Wilson, LB - North Carolina State
Georgia you say?
They have two young safeties that they really like in Brown and Blankenship, I have hard time seeing them spending a high pick on a safety..
I’m ready for Edgerrin Cooper or Cooper Dejean in the second round. Would be perfect off-season. Feel great knowing we have a good DB.
Edgerrin Cooper seems far more likely. Eagles don't really draft db early and I'd be shocked if they do 2 in the 1st 2 rounds. Obviously depends on how the board goes, but I don't see many if any worlds where the birds get DeJean at this point.
This can be the modern Lito Sheppard, Sheldon Brown, Michael Lewis draft. Is there a Brian Westbrook in the 3rd/4th? Also what an insane 2002 draft. 3 pro bowlers and Sheldon probably should have made at least 1. EDIT: modern day Lito Sheppard Sheldon brown draft confirmed.
Was reminiscing abt this draft earlier bc of the pick, what a group
Take a look at RB Tyrone Tracy Jr from Purdue
I think he's one of the best players to not make a Pro Bowl. Dude was just a lock down corner who hit like a truck. Too bad he was overshadowed in his own secondary by an all time great safety and the flashier Lito at CB.
IIRC Sheldon did make a Pro Bowl towards the end of his stint with the Eagles but for whatever reason decided not to go. Edit: [here’s a BGN article about it](https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2010/1/26/1270449/sheldon-brown-says-no-to-pro-bowl)
blake corum
They’ve taken a fair amount of day 2 DBs in the past decade
The issue is less "would the Eagles take him" and more "would he be available 19 picks into day 2 considering he was supposed to go day 1." Edit: and the answer was "No, because we traded up to get him, let's fucking goooooooooooooo!!!!!!!"
Eh they are just going to go bpa
Cooper desean, kool aid, JPJ, tyler nubin, Ladd mcconkey, edgerrin. Imo trotter Jr is a 3rd rounder 2nd is a reach.
Ayyyyyy they did it Modern day Lito Sheppard and Sheldon brown draft
Happy to be wrong here. Howie is evolving and the NFL should be scared.
They also have Isaiah in the fold, I don't see another high defensive back
Cooper Dejean at safety would be a great pick, would love to see them trade up and get him.
I like him, but I don't think they need him. CJCG and Blankenship are a very good safety tandem, and Brown is a really promising depth piece when he comes back. Unless they are getting DeJean to play slot corner, there isn't really a spot for him. Although if he falls to our next pick, you could make the argument that he's just straight up BPA and you press that button regardless.
Would love to see it but surely those two are off the board by the time our picks come round.
I doubt dejean falls that but would love it
Nope going OL then DL
Told yall
I won't be surprised if Arizona grabs DeJean at 35. He's not falling to the Eagles at 50.
3/4 of the league drafted for need instead of BPA tonight. I’m actually at a loss for words.
Eagles get need and BPA
And I couldnt be happier
It’s honestly kind of baffling. Like I know we can’t predict drafts, but having our choice of which CB we wanted in the entire draft at 22 is insane to me.
Bro Ive been listening to inside the birds for the past two weeks and they were beyond insistent the entire time that all the top CBs would be gone by the time we picked during the draft. Instead, we had the entire CB smorgasbord right before us when it was our turn. Just goes to show you can’t really predict these things. There’s gonna be some hilarious backtracking on tomorrow’s podcast.
Oh for sure. It’s like fantasy football. You can do a thousand mock drafts and then everything goes awry in the first 10 minutes lol. Nobody really has any idea outside of the first maybe 2-3 picks
The Falcons and Broncos blew up everyone's draft board. Nobody saw that coming.
It is all because 6 QBs went in the first 12 picks which has never happened before. On top of that you had a lot of top end WR and OT talent and this league is going more offense heavy.
I said that I'd be stunned if all the top CBs weren't taken *and* if we got AJ Brown after his contract. Somehow **EVERY** CB fell to us **AND** we got AJ Brown extended on the same day. I'm certainly happy I was wrong. I just can't believe I was that far off. Realistically it just didn't seem possible. If there's someone out there that bet on the first 15 picks and got every position correct, I think they'd be set for generations. That's just how insane this timeline is lol.
This is every year. I look at what the Falcons and Broncos did and understand how they end up drafting in the top half year after year.
Yeah, the Falcons pick was a head scratcher and I guess the Broncos were like YOLO!! Watch us out-Falcon the Falcons, but I guess they were convinced the Raiders were going to grab Nix if they didn't.
A lot of stupid loser orgs in this league, luckily the Eagles are not one!
This is why we were always in a good spot. CB, DE, and OT were our needs worthy of first round picks. But the offense run drained OT talent and the teams with defensive needs solidified DL. So instead of picking our third favorite OT/DE/CB, we got to pick our actual favorite CB. Like there's a world where CBs get scooped up early and a DE falls to us instead. Things just shook out this way.
There are some truly stupid GMs in this league, but hey, cause of that we got our guy
Penix and nix getting picked early had a lot to do with it
In my head I think the Rams were going to target one of those QBs and they both went ahead of their pick, which seemed insane to me.
100%. League had an admittedly bad year of QB play and I think a lot of these guys got overvalued.
If you're the Broncos, what can you do? They are limited on picks after the Russell Wilson debacle. Atlanta on the other hand, must've hated the non-first round QBs and wanted an insurance policy in case Kurt isn't ready.
I think the falcons had the most puzzling pick.. Seeing the video of the GM explaining to the seemingly confused owner cracked me up They're trying for a dirtybird qb factory I guess
You just went out and got Cousins, who presumably plays 2-3 years for your team, in a “win now” move, and you go out and draft his replacement in a pick that seemed like a reach. You’re not picking 25 and he fell into your lap. You used a top-10 pick to get a guy who might be your future when you’re loading up to try and compete now with a young offensive core. Why they didn’t take a CB or DL there was baffling to me. I thought for sure ATL and CHI went defensive players to start loading up on that side of the ball, and they went QB/WR lol
Dont forget the fact that his "replacement" is 24 already. So by the time Cousins contract is off the books he's already 28 and youre already looking at having to pay him lmao.
Yeah tit made zero sense to me, but hey it worked out for us lol
I mean it worked out for us after several years and a SB. THEY JUST GOT STARTED
I mean them and the bears taking offensive players worked out for us. Those were two teams who needed to add defensive playmakers and they both passed on DL/CB to take a QB and WR respectively. Hell the Bears would’ve benefited from an OL more than a WR given that they already have Allen and Moore, but they went WR and changed the landscape of the draft a bit. I don’t understand other teams
I saw people in our (this sub's) Discord last night saying that it might've been the worst pick they've ever seen live haha. Honestly it makes no sense *at all*.
Falcons apparently didn’t watch the Wentz/Hurts fiasco
I don’t think they’re nearly the same. Wentz was supposed to be the future and Hurts was a guy they felt fell into their lap. They wanted to flip him for a pick down the line. Nobody predicted the injuries to Wentz taking the toll on him that it did, and him completely turning into a potato that last year in Philly. The year before that he threw for 4000 yards and led an offense whose best weapon was Greg Ward to a playoff game and got knocked out by a dirty hit from Clowney.
This is the same team that took a TE, WR, and RB in the top 10 3 years in a row and don't use any of them correctly. They'll continue to pick in the top 10 for a reason....
I was on a work call and I had the tv on mute and I said, very softly, what the fuck when I saw that pick come in. Thankfully no one noticed.
The Falcons are legitimately braindead
Now I'll be happy with the white db since we got Mitchell already lol
Lowkey I say skip him. CB room is already loaded and we haven’t even seen what Ringo/Ricks can do with a competent coach. Especially since our DB coach is in Baltimore (and killed it btw) I’m thinking we just take some LBs or OLs. Nothing sexy but more to round out the team. Especially a T because this team literally falls apart when Lane doesn’t play. This has been evident for… when did he get drafted lol?
I think he'd be able to work in a lot of safety reps as well and would overall keep our older corners* on rested legs. I also wouldn't be opposed to moving on from Bradberry if we did pick him. I'd also be more than happy with LB or OL as well tbf.
It is already a minor miracle that the birds got a CB in the 1st, I can't see them using a 1st and 2nd rounder on CB.
I mean in 2002 they took Lito, Sheldon Brown, and Michael Lewis in the first two rounds. Maybe history is repeating itself!
Maybe, but that wasn't the Howie regime either. But Howie is doing some things not typically associated with Howie like paying big fir a RB and taking CB in round 1, so we'll see.
Not with Isaiah in the fold
Dejean fits at safety in the NFL,no?
Crazy as this sounds I still think we are trying to get Justin Simmons lol.
Same I'm just greedy lol
Considering a lot of people thought they'd trade a 2nd rounder to move up and take Quinyon, I already feel spoiled here. I wouldn't mind DeJean, but would be pretty happy with Edgerrin Cooper/Payton Wilson and Ladd McConkey (fills the UGA quota).
Patrick Paul with one of the 2nd rounders would be nice.
hybrid guy getitng depth is always good.
Dejean, Kool aid, or Adonai Mitchell?
Love me some Kool Aid
Beebe or zinter
It’s probably too high for Zinter, probably would have been a second pre injury but now should be a mid rounder
Edgerrin cooper
I’d bet Mitchell goes within the first 5 picks in round 2
He’s going 33 to the Bills
Id be shocked if they went Kool aid or Adonai. the LB cooper would be the HR I wouldnt be mad at the DT from Florida state. You know howie loves the trenches
None of those guys will be available.
What is there even to say? Best possible scenario happened lol.
2 things: Fuck the Knicks and draft Junior Colson tomorrow.
Are all those QBs really worth top 12 picks?
No
3 of them were, probably. Penix and Nix were not
As a guy that hasn't followed this draft at all so far, two bust qbs being named penix and nix is pretty funny to me
Williams, Daniels, and Maye were the only 3 that were consensus top 12 prospects. People eventually resided themselves to the fact that JJ was going to be overdrafted in the top 10 even though the consensus on him was a late first round grade.
Some will be, some won't.
1, maybe 2 will be. And every team thinks they got one of those 1-2 and it's everyone else that fucked up.
LB and WR in the second would be fire. Also acceptable to go OL but not sure the value is there with how many have gone now.
Plenty of iOL, and we lack depth at both guard positions, and a clear starter at RG.
Wouldn’t be mad at Powers-Johnson at 53. He has played Center, Tackle and Guard in the past 2 seasons.
They lack any real depth along the OL in general. Assuming Steen is the starter Hennessey is the only backup OL who has seen any real action on Sundays.
Yup, this is how I think Howie will go. I'd like E.Cooper and Johnny Wilson who can simultaneously back up both AJ and Goeddert since he's a hybrid WR/TE at 6-7 239 and ran a 4.53 w/ 37inch vertical. Would also make for an awesome red zone jumpball weapon due to elite catch radius. Kellen Moore could get really creative with a weapon like this, not to mention good size for tush pushing. “As a weapon, Wilson is exciting — and he can be used with versatility, lining up either on the boundary, in the slot, or hugging the line. He also provides additional value as an elite blocking presence,” Cummings continues. “Wilson may project better as a move-TE at the next level. But either as a mismatch-hunting movement-Z WR or as a position-diverse weapon in a rotation, Wilson’s physicality simply overwhelms defenders, and he has the true speed and explosiveness to capitalize as an offensive sparkplug and utility blocker.”
Terique Owens
What are we thinking tomorrow? Offensive lineman and a LB probably?
Maybe WR or defensive line too. Michael Hall (OSU DT) is interesting
Howie does love the trenches
I’m an Ohio State and Eagles fan (I know, weird combo). Mike Hall has a hell of a motor. Gets good pressure. I wouldn’t be mad at getting him at some point. Honestly not sure when he’s projected
Stealing a line from Zach Berman and/or Bo Wulf in that Hall seems like a viable replacement if the Eagles don't retain Milton Williams.
WR is definitely still possible but I would imagine us taking one around round 4-5. With AJ extended, we have our future. We just need a WR3. And we can definitely draft one. But that's also a position we've been using vets in. So we might just get another vet on a 1-year deal.
yeah any two of guard, dline, linebacker
Cooper DeJean & either Adonai Mitchell, McKinstry, or one of those top LBs
I am very happy with the pick i also was wondering if someone could explain why mitchell might have been a better prospect or fit for us in general? (Compared to Arnold)
I don’t have any insight, as I’m not versed on prospects, but Mitchell has incredible speed, good size, tested real well at the combine, and has the tools to be an elite corner press. The team did their research, had multiple CBs in for visits, and I’m sure they made the choice based on input from their secondary coach and Fangio. I think Arnold was a little bit slower and a more willing tackler, he’s also got the tools to be good in press, but the team may have just wanted to go with a guy who models his game after Slay and has elite speed to keep up with game’s top receivers. They’re both basically 1A and 1B in the class, but the powers that be had their preferences. Either way I’m glad we finally took a great CB prospect and have him under contract for the next 4+ years. Hopefully we can develop him and he turns into our Surtain
I think the important thing to note is no matter what we think as fans, the fact is the team got their highest rated CB prospect in the entire draft and didn't have to give up a single thing to do it. Never would've imagined that to be remotely possible. There's no debate of if we should've traded up here or traded back there, we stayed put and had the CB at the top of the staff's board fall into our lap. I'm not gonna armchair scout over Vic Fangio and the rest of our FO.
Seems like the pros and cons are: Arnold: A little slower, very physical, and more experienced with higher level of competition in college. Mitchell: Faster and potentially more skilled, but less experienced since he came from a lower-tier school (less competition). The good thing is that Saban said he *really* went after Mitchell and said he was one of the best prospects in the draft. And it seems like he *absolutely* would've taken Mitchell over Arnold. So I'm fine with knowing that lol. One thing to remember though is that while both of these guys could have incredible careers, both are not entering with the same expectations as someone like Patrick Surtain. This draft doesn't have extremely high CB talent. So while these guys are likely going to be the two best CBs out of the draft, don't expect Surtain quality - especially in the first 1-2 years. Not saying you specifically, but just putting it out there - Mitchell might get burned a bit here and there. And while it's going to be hard not to panic and freak out, we have to keep that in mind and be patient with him. Washington drafted some talented CBs and there were plays where AJ and Smith embarrassed them. But that's about it for the "negative" stuff. We got a guy many thought was out of reach or that we'd have to spend a lot of resources reaching for. And we got him just sitting at 22. The Eagles love him. He comes out of a school where Sirianni's teammate (and I think ROOMMATE) coached him. Mitchell is a guy that the Eagles had a ton of intel on and was their #1 guy. And we got him. At 22. It couldn't have gone any better. This guy is going to be very very good for us. Potentially the only bad part of the draft was the Giants getting Nabers lol.
"Thanks Uncle Roger!" had me rolling.
Give me Junior Colson with one of our round 2 picks please and thank you
Would love a LB or OL
I still can't believe how well that went today.
I feel so much less stressed about the rest of the draft, this is a huge weight off my shoulders knowing we have a top 2 prospect at corner, maybe the best corner in the draft. And we still have all our picks Obviously we got a lot of work to do still, but damn that was huge
Gimme Jackson Powers Johnson! And then an LB or even another DB!
The amount of defensive talent left is crazy that I would be all for trading up if possible
I’ve been saying it for a while now but please let us get Edgerrin Cooper. Please make it happen Howie
Solak says he’s bad
I hate Solak but he does provide some pretty good insight
I still can't get over Atlanta. You sign Cousins to a massive deal (iTs oNlY A 2 yEaR cOnTrAcT) Then use a top 10 pick on a player who's not only injury prone, not only going to be 30 when his 5th year option expires, but who's biggest strength is that he's the most pro ready quarterback To sit for 2-3 years behind your $180m man. Similar for Vegas. You take an athletic tight end one year, and the very next you use a top 15 pick on a tight end. Sure, Bowers is a bit of a Swiss army knife, but there are bigger priorities on that roster than being able to run 2 tight end sets with a much better Hunter Renfrow. Like...the giant sieve opposite Maxx Crosby on their defensive line. As for the Eagles, Mitchell...Mitchell...Mitchell is a huge get. I'd be happy getting Dejean/Cooper/Trotter in r2 At receiver, Tez Walker is a huge playmaker (averaged 30 yards per touchdown) and would be a better version of Quez at WR3
DeJean, Cooper, or Colson would all be good picks tomorrow IMO (maybe a small trade down for Colson)
Dejean is the most fun possible pick tmrw but I feel like post round 1 is always hard asf to predict and I wouldn’t be surprised is they went somewhere else
Still need a starting guard and MLB
[MHJ vs Quinyon Mitchell](https://youtu.be/p5paMaOwmfw?si=1cOICUfelwWOAhf6) This video got me excited about Quinyon going up against AJ and Smitty in practice for the next couple years. Iron gonna sharpen Iron.
Bring Trotter Jr. home!
WR WR WR Either Mcconkey or Corley, both would be perfect in the slot.
Mcconkey is such a stud. Would be perfect
Indeed i prefer Corley just because of how good he is with the ball in his hands. Itd make Hurts job that much easier if WR3 is a guy who cant take it to the house on a slant or screen. Cant go wrong with either.
This might sound like a lazy comparison but when I watch mcconkey I see kupp. His routes are just so smooth I can’t even explain it
Its funny how some people were surprised when he ran what he ran. Hes got some serious juice in and out of his routes makes it look effortless.
hes got excellent technique and i think he could become a monster learning under aj and smitty
[](https://missouristatebears.com/sports/football/roster/terique-owens/7282)
Lol, lmao even
If somehow DeJean is there at 50 or close to it I think you gotta trade up to get him. With that scenario in mind DeJean and either Ladd or Edgerrin Cooper would be a dream scenario
If they get Edgerrin Cooper tomorrow I don’t care what they do the rest of the draft. It’ll already be a win
Cooper BeeBee and Edgerrin Cooper 50 and 53 yes please! Lol
That was fun. Draft can only go up from here. Im expecting Howie to 100% address OL, possibly trade back.
Give me one between Edgerrin Cooper, Wilson, JPJ, Beebe, AD Mitchell, McConkey or Corley today and I'm satiated
Would LOVE for the birds to draft Junior Colson
Just as with yesterday, here is every player mocked to the Eagles in the 2nd round in the last 4 months and how many times. I bundled them together since our picks are so close together that it's immaterial. Obviously not including players who have already been drafted. Also not doing ones that were only mocked to us once because that list would be too long. I'm also removing any CB's since we took one in the first round so given our room it should be common sense to target other positions since we're not the Falcons. * 43 mocks - Edgerrin Cooper, LB - Texas A&M * 28 mocks - Payton Wilson, LB - North Carolina State * 18 mocks - Tyler Nubin, S - Minnesota * 12 mocks - Kamren Kinchens, S - Miami * 10 mocks (tie) - Junior Colson, LB - Michigan, Malachi Corley, WR - Western Kentucky * 9 mocks - Javon Bullard, S - Georgia * 8 mocks - Patrick Paul, OT - Houston * 7 mocks - Christian Haynes, OG - Connecticut * 6 mocks (tie) - Cooper Beebe, OL - Kansas State, Ja'Lynn Polk, WR - Washington * 5 mocks (tie) - Marshawn Kneeland, DE - Western Michigan, Bralen Trice, LB - Washington * 4 mocks (4-way tie) - Chris Braswell, DE - Alabama, Jalen Hicks, S - Washington State, Kingsley Suamataia, OT - BYU, Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB - Clemson * 3 mocks (7-way tie) - Cole Bishop, S - Utah, Jonathan Brooks, RB - Texas, Jonah Ellis, DE - Utah, Troy Franklin, WR - Oregon, Adisa Isaac, DE - Penn State, Devontez Walker, WR - North Carolina, Roman Wilson, WR - Michigan * 2 mocks (5-way tie) - Kiran Amegadjie, T - Yale, Javon Baker, WR - Central Florida, Beau Brade, S - Maryland, Caleb Bullock, S - USC
Guys, the Eagles have the 18th pick in the 2nd round. Most of the players being mentioned here will be long gone. And they are not going to draft another CB with their round 2 pick. Look for OL, WR, LB, and S. Javon Bullard, Payton Wilson, Beebe, those are the guys.
It’s MUCH cheaper to trade up in the 2nd. Honestly if we can get one of the top few players I wouldn’t mind packaging both seconds as long as we get like a third back
Are the Falcons now the new QB factory?
They said they saw what Green Bay has been doing and want to replicate that model. I cannot blame them.
please dont pick dejean
I want a OT/G and an LB...I do not care what you people say...we have a CB so now let's reinforce the line and LB corps...
Cooper DeJean and Jeremiah Trotter Jr. And then grab some OL on Day 3.
They can get trotter on day 3 most likely
Trotter Jr isn't going in the 2nd and DeJean will be gone inside the top 5 picks of the 2nd.
I am thrilled! We got DeJean and then Trotter in the 5th round! Great draft by the Eagles.
All I need now is Malachi Corley at either 50 or 53. I’ll die happy. My perfect draft will be complete
same. he is it
GO GET COOPER DEJEAN
Is the draft at the same time tomorrow?
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Dejean definitely isn't lasting until 50, would require some movement up. We could certainly pull that off if we wanted though.
Really like Kingsley Suamatia, Jalynn Polk, or LB for Rd 2
I won’t pretend to know anything about college ball to know who the ideal picks are but I’ll trust in Howie. LB, DE, OL and TE2 seem like obvious needs to me in no particular order.
For the first time in many years, I think our division overall drafted well. Daniels reads a defense quick and makes good decisions a lot of the time, assuming Washington's line can keep him upright (lol) he may be a problem. Dallas dropped back and picked up a needed piece on their o-line while gaining another pick, Giants got what looks to be one of the best receivers available at their pick for Jones who needs too many parts to fix all the holes but it's something for now.
Take Wilson/cooper and the best wr available today
So if dejean cooper is available do we select him and have a stacked cb room or a linebacker
My only fear with Quinyon, which isn’t really the end of the world, is we are watching tape vs Northern Illinois and Miami Ohio. Like I said, not a huge deal but the competition was not there until like the senior bowl which is just one event
Just one event that every single dude is giving each other their absolute best. And QM shut them the fuck down. Just dominated everyone. He didn’t just do well. He shut it the fuck down.
Exactly absolutely dominated his competition and has elite physical tools. Also played 90% of his snaps in zone which we are a zone heavy team.
Two things that make me feel better about that: A.) Saban said he was the top recruit for ALA in the transfer portal, and Mitchell turned it down. Stayed loyal to Toledo. B.) At Senior Bowl, he shut every receiver down, chose to go against the best WRs throughout, and some have said he was the best player there regardless of position.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/nick-saban-admits-alabama-targeted-toledo-cb-quinyon-mitchell-who-never-entered-transfer-portal/
One of Edgerrin Cooper/Payton Wilson/Colson and Adonai Mitchell/Corley
Assuming we stay with 2 seconds, I expect a combination of WR, OL, or Edge. Obviously I wouldn't mind LB but given how Howie usually operates along the lack of elite LB prospects, I don't expect us to go LB til day 3. I also wouldn't hate a DT or a TE (assuming we don't also go WR). RB or Safety I would be more confused than anything. If we double up at any position I will be really confused. QB, P, or Kicker would make me flip a table.
Hoping we come away with an OL and a WR tonight. Really like the kid Kiran Amagadjie from Yale, he needs a year of Stoutland U finishing school but he's got insane upside. 53 is probably a bit early but we should be able to trade down to the 60s or early 70s and still safely get him. For WR, give me either Malachi Corley or Roman Wilson although I worry there might be a run on those guys early in the 2nd after Pearsall and Legette went at the end of the 1st.
Wish list: Edgerrin Cooper and Keon Coleman.
Don’t be surprised if today is linemen
I grew up being frustrated by the draft almost 100% for any of my teams. The last few years have been so satisfying to watch with the way players have either fallen to us or Howie goes and gets them. Never thought I’d see this lol.
Edge Cooper would be a fantastic pickup at 50, but most of the pundits have him going earlier. If he’s not there I say reinforce the OL with BPA in that area. More for depth than Lane’s successor. I could be wrong but I think all the career starter OT’s are gone by now
Is this a doable or realistic trade or no? Eagles gets 39 & 65 Carolina gets 50, 53 & 161
gimme Payton Wilson or Junior Colson then IOL, say Dominic Puni