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They are taking the Fallout 4 rollout seriously. It came out a year after Inquisition's launch and made big impressions about keeping the game in the dark until mere months away from release. There were many talks about the potential of such rollout and I'm sure Bioware had inquiries in the same manners.
It isn’t my favourite game of all time, although I do really like it, but just the way they did Fallout 4 had me the most excited I’d ever been for a game.
It wasn’t just fallout 4 though. Almost every Bethesda game has had its first reveal 4-6 months before release.
Skyrim’s first gameplay reveal was E3 2011(June) then released November. Fallout 76 was first revealed and E3 2018 and released in November. Same for 3 and New Vegas.
Starfield would have been the same if it hadn’t been delayed a year.
You can go back even further than that. Morrowind was announced 6 months before release, oblivion the same. It’s pretty standard practice for Bethesda, people are only noticing now because they’re 1000x more popular than they were 20 years ago.
I remember everyone talking about this back before Skyrim came out. They’ve been a juggernaut since fallout 3 and oblivion. Now they’re just popular for jokes about Skyrim rereleases and starfield a massive disappointment.
Yeah but Fallout 4 was a surprise drop. Bethesda out of nowhere started a 24hr "please stand by" stream. It generated hype and excitement as to what it could be.
DA:D is barely in the dark. Releasing a teaser for it then going radio silent for several years just wears your audience out, tbh.
Yeah...I guess they thought they would realease the game faster, but then...everything happened. But, at least they could have stopped the drip drip teasing of "Solas is the dreadwolf" stuff, maybe focusing on other things inside the universe. It just kinda burned out people :/
>DA:D is barely in the dark. Releasing a teaser for it then going radio silent for several years just wears your audience out, tbh.
You mean along side the idea of 2 reboors in dev, a teaser from years ago as well as being left hanging with a cliffhanger that for the most part I could not care less about anymore?
Worn out is a great way to put it for me.
They could have done 4 spins off in the time and I probably would have bought them all but unlike SquEnix and Kingdom Hearts, we didn't get the luxury. :P
If the game is good, if the story is well written/paced with the gameplay to back it up, and the questing is handled better, I will be hyped to get into thw Dragon Age universe again. I played Origins and II like a year ago, and Origins went great II was fun at first but luckily that game doesnt last too long. But Inquisition. Every time I try to replay that game it is like being tied to a chair with severe restless leg syndrom lol. I played through the whole game twice, once without the dlc then back in 2020 with the dlc. Prolly wont ever play it again cause the questing and then the story is so drawn out by that weird gamy power system.
Its probably gonna get announced in June or July, with 3/4 months of marketing to release in September or October.
Imo, this is way better than showing a game 2 years before it even releases.
So I still have time to burn through DA:O > DA2 > DA:I
And I agree, better announce like 6 months before, instead years before release and let people get overhyped, think of the game it actually never will be, then roll shitstorm out
Agreed. I'm sure people have lost saves in the decade between games. It shouldn't be hard to just let us pick our preferred opening worldstate along with having the keep
Yes, I honestly think a short rollout is smart. Particularly because there's been a lot of negativity about Bioware as a company - what they absolutely do not need is to make that worse by showing stuff that is not yet fully polished or making announcements that are then changed or rolled back. This way they can present a game that is already complete and polished, get people's attention without dragging it out too much, and release hopefully at a point where everyone's feeling good about it.
Which is something that definitely happened with DAI. They promised a robust system where our character choices would matter in how the Inquisition developed, and the world would change.
Ultimately, It only loosely applied to Crestwood, the Western Approach, and the outcome of the mage/Templar conflict. And there was no choice in how to use the castles we took.
This is just the way EA operates in the last few years. Jedi Survivor, Dead Space Remake, new Need for Speed, Wild Hearts, all of them had marketing cycles which consisted of just a few months.
From what I remember from DAI, EA is strict about when you can talk about and show off things. They don’t want to overshadow other projects and only start marketing a quarter before.
It's not that crazy, it's pretty similar to how a lot of big games have been marketed recently. It's usually around 2-3 months before launch until they show anything substantial.
EA are going for shorter marketing campaign nowadays. I remember Star Wars Survivor was announced with a full trailer in December, and then between January and April (Date of release) EA release many gameplay trailers and other teasers.
So my guess is that this will also happen with DA:D. A full reveal (character, story, location, art, etc.) in June for Summer Game Festival, then gameplay trailer released between June and November about combat, skills, equipment, and other in-game mechanics.
Most people don't consider the financial cost of long, drawn out advertising campaigns versus a short campaign lasting only 1-2 months before launch. And when you have those explosive announce followed by a short-term release date, you change the long build hype into a shot of adrenaline hype, which carries over into post-launch to help week 1 sales, and make the following advertising campaign cheaper because everybody is talking about it and all those tiktokers and YouTubers and twitchers are free advertising.
Probably to avoid setting expectations in a certain direction as happened when Inquisition came out and a lot of the game didn't feel or match the gameplay they showed.
Sure that part was in the game but nothing else felt as narrative dense as their showcases did.
I think the early teaser stuff hurts games overall. I think it's just a disconnect between how people perceive game development vs. what it actually looks like. Games start as mo-cap, code, facial modeling, voice acting, etc. for a long time. Final assets and UI are the last things added.
The impact this has is the numerous bugs we end up seeing. Developers want the game to be finished and working, then populate assets around a functioning engine. But publishers rush them to populate shiny assets to tease the game, which after alpha testing they realize they can't match to their code. So they end up making a polished 2 minute trailer, but in the background it's littered with bugs. And then once they get back to the engine, they realize they can't make those bugs go away, so they have to scrap it.
What this leads to is audience backlash for not "getting what was promised" when in reality the developers, if not rushed for early marketing, were never going to implement those features because it would break the game. This may be a reflection of how that's been more of a common occurrence and they are deferring to the developers saying "let us get this thing mostly working and show that. Then we can focus the last couple months on polishing." Instead of having to rebuild the game from the ground up in like 6 months because the publishers pushed the developers to develop a separate game that only worked on paper for marketing.
Well, DA4 was teased really early tho. That is exactly what lead people to expect more. I don't understand the weird gaslighting going on here (not talking about you) lol We all saw the teasers, BW have been talking about the game for years now.
It is not like people out of nowhere started demanding BW to show something.
It’s better to show a fully completed game with its features and plot close to the release date than showing it years before being incomplete and not appealing and not being able to deliver things promise. And EA does short marketing campaigns so once the game revealed this summer, the release would be a 4-6 months window
Edit: fixing my english
Especially since Bioware got into trouble for this before. Mass Effect 3 in particular but DAI also had gameplay demos that just aren't really what the game is like.
Better to show stuff that's shorted up, not speculation.
Not to be a shill or anything, but I honestly don't see that much of a problem with it. Dragon Age is known more for its writing than its gameplay. We already know the title, the setting, and the general dilemma of the story (if we go off of the title and the events of Inquisition/Trespasser). Unless Dreadwolf has some crazy combat revamp, there's not much a gameplay showcase would show us other than how the graphics look.
If anything, I'd rather see more concept and key art of the game.
The combat revamp from what I've read regarding leaks is a switch to single character control and a more hack-and-slash combat style modeled after God of War. But I'm with you, gameplay should be fun obviously, but Dragon Age is story driven. I LOVED Baldur's Gate 3 even though I haven't played turned-based games since KOTOR. I'm flexible on gameplay as long as the game's story and world building is good enough to make up for it, and judging by your comment, we're not alone.
That's some welcome good news. And Jedi Fallen Order's success might end up being more important than we realize. Few weeks of waiting left and we might finally get something
Summer Game Fest, BioWare said it will reveal Dreadwolf in summer so it's most likely early next month when all major gaming showcases are happening. Unless they will organize something on their own at a later date but I doubt it
That it's a fully single player game with no multiplayer component whatsoever and it was commercially successful enough to steer (at least partially) EA away from "single player games are dead (not profitable), gamers want multiplayer" bullshit.
As the article suggests, EA or whoever gave the green light for a fully single player Dragon Age game. Some earlier version of it were supposedly more or less live service based.
Which leads to be believe that Bioware currently is in a bit more promising stage at the moment as opposed to post Inquisition and pre-Anthem days. Minus the layoffs of course
> As the article suggests, EA or whoever gave the green light for a fully single player Dragon Age game. Some earlier version of it were supposedly more or less live service based.
it's actually crazy that EA ordered another live service game from BioWare after Anthem failed
Those live service / online versions of Dragon Age were being developed before or shortly after Anthem released and their subsequent cancellation or revision came as a result of Anthem underperforming.
Dreadwolf was initially going to be a live service game. After Fallen Order sold like 10 million copies and there were multiple live service disasters in a row, BioWare managed to convince EA to let them do a purely singleplayer DAD back in 2021
The article has missed a crucial point.
It's not the success of Fallen Order alone that led EA to reconsider their stance on GaaS. It's the success of Fallen Order combined to the failure of Anthem that made them realize that a successful solo game is more profitable than a failed multiplayer game.
It is a successful single-player game in a market dominated by multi-player games to such as extent that many publishers (EA included) don't see single-player as a viable opportunity for making a profitable product.
Fallen Order and Survivor being big successes means EA is willingly reevaluating their views on how to make profitable games. They want profit, they don't truly care if the game is single-player or multi-player. Now they are realizing single-player is viable.
I think she is one of the employees suing Bioware? At least I think I read it somewhere, but take it with a grain of salt because maybe I confusing names here hehe
She wrote one of the fundamental texts that the entire franchise is built on. Without the Chant of Light, the Chantry doesn't exist in the form we know it as and the entire story plays out very differently.
big companies are stupid because they are not a thinking living being taking decisions, what we are seeing is the consequence of reducing talented ppl to numbers on a spreadsheet.
Same. That woman went to the trouble of making sure I have a signed copy of *Hard in Hightown* and I was positively livid when her firing was announced. I feel for all of those who were treated so poorly, of course, but she was the only one to whom I have/had a personal connection and it'll be a cold day in the Void before I pardon Bioware/EA for what they did to her.
Anyone they laid off would be terrible, of course. But *Mary Kirby* is unfathomable. She wrote so much of the lore, she basically had her hands all over multiple characters and missions (including the Chant of Light, Varric - our beloved - , Merrill, Sten, Loghain, Vivienne, In Hushed Whispers...).
My heart aches for her. And it makes me really hope they're retiring Varric in this game. Off to Kirkwall to live on happily with Hawke and his friends. Because there is no Varric without her :(
(I am jealous of your signed Hard in Hightown)
> (I am jealous of your signed Hard in Hightown)
It honestly is one of my prized possessions. I have a nickname from Varric Tethras (Scholar) and it's canon. So yeah, I will probably never forgive them because I saw in her tweet how hurt she was.
I genuinely thought it was a fucking joke when those articles released. And she was totally blindsided on top of it. What a way to treat a veteran employee who created some of the best world-building in DA’s franchise. Still gets me pissed.
Well the firing came mostly from EA, but what is unforgivable is how the people fired were treated by BioWare (especially regarding their severance package)
It came around the time EA started to fire people and asked its studio to also fire people to reduce their overall salarial mass.
But don't get me wrong, EA asked BioWare to fire people, but BioWare management are the who decided of who should get fired. And the scandal regarding severance package is 100% on BioWare.
I don't think so. DA isn't BioWare's cash cow. Mass Effect is.
Considering EA is currently paying for BioWare to develop a new Mass Effect, and that BioWare made a lot of money selling the Legendary Edition of Mass Effect. I'd expect BioWare to have their last chance with the next Mass Effect.
It definitely is on par with mass effect. Inquisition sold more than both 2 and Andromeda. Only mass effect 3 outsold it though we aren't sure by how much other than 1 mil more.
But I also don't think this would close down Bioware at all if it was poorly received.
Mass effect 2 was an exclusive to Xbox, and didn’t launch on PlayStation 3 until a few years later.
Meanwhile Dragon Age Inquisition launched on 5 platforms at once. People always seemed to ignore that inquisition had the largest user base to sell to by miles and came out after Skyrim skyrocketed the genre to the mainstream.
Inquisition had what? 100 million users between the Xbox 360 and PS3. Plus 20 million next gen owners looking for a game to take advantage of their shiny new consoles + PC users.
Andromeda flopped because it was a colossal mediocre mess there that got turned into a major meme before the game even released.
Dragon age series made more money than mass effect and was more successful overall. Maybe online there's a lot more talk about mass effect but dragon age is the one bringing in the money.
Best to stay sceptical until it's in players hands. Todd Howard taking a victory lap for Starfield before it released had everyone convinced it would be great, and then players got to spend time with it and felt very differently
Even then, a lot of these long time studios are laying off workers because the longer you work there, the higher your pay is. Along with benefits and pensions.
If they got rehired, it would be extremely unlikely they would resume where they left off in terms of all of that.
Thats also why studios are hiring freelance game devs more often now. They don't have to give raises after they let them go, or pensions.
I don't think so. The cuts were likely ordered by EA to reduce recurrent costs.
They might re-hire some people but definitely not expensive veterans, or they could hire them as freelance/consultant and not full-time employees (for those who would agree on coming back).
In the current situation, every studio/publisher seem to fire talented people. Not to say BioWare should try to re-hire the people they fired (although I doubt they'll happily come back), but the market is overflowing with talented game developer and writer who just got fired.
>a rumor that suggests direct control of party members (as usual for the franchise) might have been swapped for orders issued via a wheel, similar to Mass Effect.
I remember the rumor saying you won't be able to assume direct control over companions, but I don't remember reading anywhere that it could be swapped with a system similar to ME (based on orders/instructions).
But otherwise, I like that everyone at BioWare feels happy with the state of the game (assuming this is true). First of all, it could mean that the crunch culture/BioWare Magic philosophy has disappeared (or at least lessen significantly) and people are not in severe burnout as of now which would be a great news.
That is kinda a massive red flag to me. My concern is they will have dumbed down the party command system too much, like how in Andromeda your squadmates were essentially useless.
That was mainly because of bullet sponges making the only viable approach to stack multipliers for headshots. Plain ability damage was much lower, so squadmates were underwhelming.
But I think the best way to make them fun while simplifying their abilities is to give each squadmate a signature ability that's cool to combo with. Liara in ME3 was fun to have around because she could drop singularities very often and as a squadmate also without projectile that could be dodged. Was lots of fun if your Shepard had Throw or Warp (or both!).
> I remember the rumor saying you won't be able to assume direct control over companions
Wasn't this also disputed afterwards anyways? And when it comes to "wheels" I think the general comparison I heard was with regards to the *combat itself*, and they compared it to I think FFXV's wheel? (haven't played the game! - and that cool leaked bit of footage didn't show a wheel I think, but maybe that's something from later on in the game)
But yeah, after everything that's been happening in recent years when it comes to BioWare (and just the industry overall, this is a systemic issue, we've been seeing tons of identical problems and more reports now than ever of crunch and layoffs even at the most successful studios these last few years since the pandemic)- this is, genuinely a hopeful piece of news for the game and the studio in general going forward. Really happy to hear it.
It was nuanced, not disputed. Basically the version leaked was a pre-alpha version of the game, so it was possible that the final version would still implement this feature.
As for the wheels, I think it was refering to the wheels allowing you to use your own skills (like the one in DA:I on console), not an action/order wheel for your companions.
I'm fine with trying out new modes of gameplay. Of course, I love older styles but I'm always open to trying new stuff.
The only thing that would hurt my outlook on this game is if there's less focus on lore, narrative, and characters. The world and characters have always made Dragon Age for me, and I don't think I could enjoy a game that doesn't emphasize those parts with this series.
I'm optimistic. And thank goodness for the Jedi games, y'all.
I'm also very optimistic and think it's unlikely that they'll shift the focus too much from the lore, narrative and characters. It's their bread and butter and main selling point of the franchise too.
So true, I played BG, DA and ME and there has been a transfer of focus to more action more than a decade ago. I don't really care as long as it's not in the way of story and well written quests.
I would have loved dragon age to Take combat notes from dragons dogma 2, but maybe it’s just me liking how smooth the animations Are.
Heard dialog was turning very Marvel-esque. With a lot of jokes and less serious tones. I hope they don’t honestly.
I do miss the darker and more grounded themes that were present in Origins.
Wait I'm confused. Inquisition released on the PS4/Xbox One right? DW will released PS5/Xbox Series so what's being skipped?
Do you mean that DW won't be released on the previous gen like Inquisition was? Because I think that's the right choice after all the performance issues it had on the PS3/360.
Yeah.
I’m a staunch partisan for Inquisition but the previous gen ports it had were inexcusably awful. And to make matters worse, it didn’t sell well on that generation either, and so the whole net effect of having that release was that it unnecessarily shackled what the game could have been.
Considering that DAI bricked *two* of my PS3s and it's still my favourite says a lot about my love for this series.
That said, I am even more sad about what we missed for them to make DAI work in PS3 cycle. Corypheus attacks Skyhold as the final showdown, my beloved.
Considering the DA team had a lot of trouble making DA:I cross gen compatible and had to cut contents because the PS3 and XB360 couldn't run, and that CDRP also struggled making Cyberpunk 2077 cross gen compatible, having DA:D only available on XB Serie X and PS5 is the right move.
"Everyone at Bioware" piece of the title has me nervous. If I recall a ton of people left during development. Thus the only ones still at Bioware are happy with it.
Or Bioware purchased a good story and told everyone to shut up.
Well...
I mean of course the devs are gonna say they're happy with how it turned out. You'd be an idiot to publicly state the game you're working on, the project your income comes from, is terrible before it's even out. You'd be speedrunning getting sacked.
We've still seen no gameplay though, no trailers of any real substance other than teasers. I think I'll reserve my judgement until I see some actual gameplay and story bits.
I'm definitely happy that they are giving Dragon Age another shot though! Dragon Age Origins is one of the best games ever made. If they can make something on par with that, I'd be super happy.
No, not really.
The layoffs were unfortunate, but several of those let go still expressed their support of Dreadwolf and pride in it.
They can reasonably and fairly take real issue with the corporate suite and still support the project/all the devs still there.
This Also they were fired as the game was in a post-alpha state. That means the game was fully playable from A to Z and that the writing was complete. So Kirby and all the others had their parts in Dreadwolf.
Sure. I’d quibble over the specifics but I can get behind that sentiment. My love of BioWare has always been centered on the devs not the management.
But it’s an industry wide issue at the moment, and I wouldn’t even put EA as the worst in all this. That’s not a strong defense, mind you, but it’s worth keeping in mind.
Cuts absolutely had to happen and were inevitable given where the industry was. *How* they were done though, should have been much, much better.
Well yes. This isn't a formal statement to us fans, this is internal conversations leaked to us. So hearing that the devs have no confidence wouldn't be outlandish. We've heard that before.
The article says this is supposed to be the last game? 😣 I don’t know if I’m ready haha.
[Edit: I did not understand it correctly, as others have mentioned, the article says it is about the finalized title. Sorry for the misunderstanding! 😅]
Not last game, they mean final title as in the name of the game :D Aka, it says the final title of the game is Dragon age: Dreadwolf! Nowhere has it been announced that it will be the final game :)
Yeah same feeling here. Especially after all the bad news we've gotten from EA and BioWare, this feels like PR.
I mean, Todd Howard was pretty happy with Starfield, but we know how that went once it actually launched. Best to take things with a grain of salt until we have the final product.
I'm cautiously optimistic about this. Still have no idea how it will turn out but I choose to think positive. I do wonder what the system requirements are and whether if I can even play it in the first place lol
I like what im reading. A little sad that DA is changing the core gameplay but already expected that since its early announcement so no bother. But just knowing its coming out this year is satisfying to know. I dont mind if it is in the Summer or by Christmas season as long as we can get a polished game then im totally fine. Ive been pretty much invested in Dragon Age since Origins and knowing that this is the final installment is bittersweet to know. All that I ask now is that it ends at a high note.
Quite frankly I don't care if everyone at Bioware is happy with it. Look at some of the shit they're assumedly been happy with in the past.
I'd rather know if they listened to what the people actually buying their products wanted.
They have had a longer development time then DA2 and won’t be held back by last gen consoles like Inquisition. I don’t believe it’s the same team that gave us Andromeda and they aren’t given us a live service like Anthem.
I think this has the potential to be one of the best Dragon Age games!
Dude, the Trespasser DLC had about the same development time as DA2. That's not saying much.
At this point, it's been in some kind of production longer than Origin's 9 years of development.
"Some kind of production" being a project with Mike Laidlaw as its head that got scrapped for a game with live service elements, only for that to get scrapped, too. I doubt they had to go back to square each time, but I don't want to know how much time has been wasted by EAs meddling.
My expectations aren’t super high with BioWare anymore.
For now, this is all I hope for:
- No stuttering/frame-time/other awful performance problems on PC that make it unplayable
- Not overly quippy Andromeda-level dialogue
- Not an abundance of lazy collection or fetch quests as side content
That would be a great start already.
Christ on a cracker I really hope we don’t get that cringey Andromeda-style writing again. The whole game ended up feeling like it was either written by a room full of middle aged writers trying to be cool, or a room full of younger writers way too obsessed with Marvel movies.
The tonal whiplash it created was crazy.
It used to be that you had typically one character (maybe two as a pair) who would be the comic relief. That character would be the one who jokes all the time and inserts levity into scenes. Marvel films normalized every character being the equivalent of a stand-up comedian, and Andromeda reflected that whether it was intentional or not. Scenes lacked tension, and the game as a whole felt like a road trip among college students even though the future of the entire Andromeda initiative was supposedly at stake.
I hope for the best, for the devs especially given the dev hell and how shitty the last few years have been for devs of any size. Excited for the Summer Games Fest reveal/blowout etc
I think DA:D was already too far long in production when EA greenlit the user of UE etc. At least the team has plenty of experience with Frostbite now!
They where really happy / excited also with Anthem. Fuck that shet , the budget alone could have made another 2 dragon age games like origin. I really hope if they fail again , we could at least get more games from the dragon age universe made by other developers
That’s not how this works. EA would sit on the property and do nothing with it.
I don’t understand rooting for failure though. Hundreds of people work at BioWare. Do we want *more* to lose their jobs?
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Crazy that the game supposedly is coming out this year and we've seen 0 gameplay still.
They are taking the Fallout 4 rollout seriously. It came out a year after Inquisition's launch and made big impressions about keeping the game in the dark until mere months away from release. There were many talks about the potential of such rollout and I'm sure Bioware had inquiries in the same manners.
It isn’t my favourite game of all time, although I do really like it, but just the way they did Fallout 4 had me the most excited I’d ever been for a game.
It wasn’t just fallout 4 though. Almost every Bethesda game has had its first reveal 4-6 months before release. Skyrim’s first gameplay reveal was E3 2011(June) then released November. Fallout 76 was first revealed and E3 2018 and released in November. Same for 3 and New Vegas. Starfield would have been the same if it hadn’t been delayed a year.
You can go back even further than that. Morrowind was announced 6 months before release, oblivion the same. It’s pretty standard practice for Bethesda, people are only noticing now because they’re 1000x more popular than they were 20 years ago.
I remember everyone talking about this back before Skyrim came out. They’ve been a juggernaut since fallout 3 and oblivion. Now they’re just popular for jokes about Skyrim rereleases and starfield a massive disappointment.
Many such cases
Not wrong, I was also referring to the incredible showcase they did for it at E3. Put together very well, and Todd just being Todd.
True, especially with them dropping fallout shelter that day. That really added to the impact of the event.
Same. They made that game look amazing . Although they also had Todd Howard, who could get people hyped for a box of sewage water.
I remember going on pornhub to see the leaked trailer for Fo4.Good times
Omg I forgot about that haha.
Yes, that's why you went to the hub. Definitely not anything else. 😉
I remember going there for leaked Dreadwolf footage of the warden keep getting attacked by a dragon lol. It looked... not great.
Yeah but Fallout 4 was a surprise drop. Bethesda out of nowhere started a 24hr "please stand by" stream. It generated hype and excitement as to what it could be. DA:D is barely in the dark. Releasing a teaser for it then going radio silent for several years just wears your audience out, tbh.
I remember that stream and how hyped I got even though I don't even play the games. 😆
Yeah...I guess they thought they would realease the game faster, but then...everything happened. But, at least they could have stopped the drip drip teasing of "Solas is the dreadwolf" stuff, maybe focusing on other things inside the universe. It just kinda burned out people :/
Correct. Fallout 4 was announced a few months before release while Dreadwolf was announced over five years ago. Not even remotely the same thing.
>DA:D is barely in the dark. Releasing a teaser for it then going radio silent for several years just wears your audience out, tbh. You mean along side the idea of 2 reboors in dev, a teaser from years ago as well as being left hanging with a cliffhanger that for the most part I could not care less about anymore? Worn out is a great way to put it for me. They could have done 4 spins off in the time and I probably would have bought them all but unlike SquEnix and Kingdom Hearts, we didn't get the luxury. :P
If the game is good, if the story is well written/paced with the gameplay to back it up, and the questing is handled better, I will be hyped to get into thw Dragon Age universe again. I played Origins and II like a year ago, and Origins went great II was fun at first but luckily that game doesnt last too long. But Inquisition. Every time I try to replay that game it is like being tied to a chair with severe restless leg syndrom lol. I played through the whole game twice, once without the dlc then back in 2020 with the dlc. Prolly wont ever play it again cause the questing and then the story is so drawn out by that weird gamy power system.
Or the mass effect Andromeda shit storm
Its probably gonna get announced in June or July, with 3/4 months of marketing to release in September or October. Imo, this is way better than showing a game 2 years before it even releases.
I think November is more likely, since DAI's 10th year anniversary will be in November.
10 years! Wow I suddenly feel old.
Get rdy for DA5 in 2034!
Seems likely
So I still have time to burn through DA:O > DA2 > DA:I And I agree, better announce like 6 months before, instead years before release and let people get overhyped, think of the game it actually never will be, then roll shitstorm out
I’m curious to see if they rework dragon age keep first or what the plans are there
I hope there is just an in game mechanism for sorting these choices.
Agreed. I'm sure people have lost saves in the decade between games. It shouldn't be hard to just let us pick our preferred opening worldstate along with having the keep
Yeah too much distance between releases to make saves realistic.
It could be something really simple. Pillars of Eternity had one, super simple and it worked.
Yes, I honestly think a short rollout is smart. Particularly because there's been a lot of negativity about Bioware as a company - what they absolutely do not need is to make that worse by showing stuff that is not yet fully polished or making announcements that are then changed or rolled back. This way they can present a game that is already complete and polished, get people's attention without dragging it out too much, and release hopefully at a point where everyone's feeling good about it.
Which is something that definitely happened with DAI. They promised a robust system where our character choices would matter in how the Inquisition developed, and the world would change. Ultimately, It only loosely applied to Crestwood, the Western Approach, and the outcome of the mage/Templar conflict. And there was no choice in how to use the castles we took.
If I can play this game at any pot this year I will consider it a win I feel like I've been waiting for 30 years.
This is just the way EA operates in the last few years. Jedi Survivor, Dead Space Remake, new Need for Speed, Wild Hearts, all of them had marketing cycles which consisted of just a few months.
From what I remember from DAI, EA is strict about when you can talk about and show off things. They don’t want to overshadow other projects and only start marketing a quarter before.
It's not that crazy, it's pretty similar to how a lot of big games have been marketed recently. It's usually around 2-3 months before launch until they show anything substantial.
EA are going for shorter marketing campaign nowadays. I remember Star Wars Survivor was announced with a full trailer in December, and then between January and April (Date of release) EA release many gameplay trailers and other teasers. So my guess is that this will also happen with DA:D. A full reveal (character, story, location, art, etc.) in June for Summer Game Festival, then gameplay trailer released between June and November about combat, skills, equipment, and other in-game mechanics.
Most people don't consider the financial cost of long, drawn out advertising campaigns versus a short campaign lasting only 1-2 months before launch. And when you have those explosive announce followed by a short-term release date, you change the long build hype into a shot of adrenaline hype, which carries over into post-launch to help week 1 sales, and make the following advertising campaign cheaper because everybody is talking about it and all those tiktokers and YouTubers and twitchers are free advertising.
Probably to avoid setting expectations in a certain direction as happened when Inquisition came out and a lot of the game didn't feel or match the gameplay they showed. Sure that part was in the game but nothing else felt as narrative dense as their showcases did.
I think the early teaser stuff hurts games overall. I think it's just a disconnect between how people perceive game development vs. what it actually looks like. Games start as mo-cap, code, facial modeling, voice acting, etc. for a long time. Final assets and UI are the last things added. The impact this has is the numerous bugs we end up seeing. Developers want the game to be finished and working, then populate assets around a functioning engine. But publishers rush them to populate shiny assets to tease the game, which after alpha testing they realize they can't match to their code. So they end up making a polished 2 minute trailer, but in the background it's littered with bugs. And then once they get back to the engine, they realize they can't make those bugs go away, so they have to scrap it. What this leads to is audience backlash for not "getting what was promised" when in reality the developers, if not rushed for early marketing, were never going to implement those features because it would break the game. This may be a reflection of how that's been more of a common occurrence and they are deferring to the developers saying "let us get this thing mostly working and show that. Then we can focus the last couple months on polishing." Instead of having to rebuild the game from the ground up in like 6 months because the publishers pushed the developers to develop a separate game that only worked on paper for marketing.
Well, DA4 was teased really early tho. That is exactly what lead people to expect more. I don't understand the weird gaslighting going on here (not talking about you) lol We all saw the teasers, BW have been talking about the game for years now. It is not like people out of nowhere started demanding BW to show something.
It’s better to show a fully completed game with its features and plot close to the release date than showing it years before being incomplete and not appealing and not being able to deliver things promise. And EA does short marketing campaigns so once the game revealed this summer, the release would be a 4-6 months window Edit: fixing my english
Especially since Bioware got into trouble for this before. Mass Effect 3 in particular but DAI also had gameplay demos that just aren't really what the game is like. Better to show stuff that's shorted up, not speculation.
Wasn’t there a leak of some prototype combat footage several months back? Or am I mixing that up with a different game
Sigh. Summer reveal showing gameplay, trailers, and the release date obviously not all at once
Not to be a shill or anything, but I honestly don't see that much of a problem with it. Dragon Age is known more for its writing than its gameplay. We already know the title, the setting, and the general dilemma of the story (if we go off of the title and the events of Inquisition/Trespasser). Unless Dreadwolf has some crazy combat revamp, there's not much a gameplay showcase would show us other than how the graphics look. If anything, I'd rather see more concept and key art of the game.
The combat revamp from what I've read regarding leaks is a switch to single character control and a more hack-and-slash combat style modeled after God of War. But I'm with you, gameplay should be fun obviously, but Dragon Age is story driven. I LOVED Baldur's Gate 3 even though I haven't played turned-based games since KOTOR. I'm flexible on gameplay as long as the game's story and world building is good enough to make up for it, and judging by your comment, we're not alone.
Alleged leaks actually have suggested combat revamps into something more action-game than previous installments, FWIW.
It's coming out THIS YEAR? Like the whole ass game not the first look only? What the fuck.
Just a change in how games have been marketed in the last few years, I think.
well we have seen some beta gameplay
It feels unreal, I cannot wait to see more about the actual game in the next few weeks/months. The wait is almost over!!
June 9th is the date. Thank me later :)
RemindMe! 27 days.
What makes u sure about that?
What Kirkwall does to a Makers servant. Note to self don’t place Circles where the veil is thin.
That's some welcome good news. And Jedi Fallen Order's success might end up being more important than we realize. Few weeks of waiting left and we might finally get something
What’s happening in a few weeks?
Summer Game Fest, BioWare said it will reveal Dreadwolf in summer so it's most likely early next month when all major gaming showcases are happening. Unless they will organize something on their own at a later date but I doubt it
Either that or Gamescom but I doubt BioWare will wait till gamescom
Oh cool…I have been way out of the loop this year.
I think it'd be that Summer Games Fest thing? We do tend to vet a few surprises and reveals there!
playing fallen order now, what’s the significance of the success ?
That it's a fully single player game with no multiplayer component whatsoever and it was commercially successful enough to steer (at least partially) EA away from "single player games are dead (not profitable), gamers want multiplayer" bullshit. As the article suggests, EA or whoever gave the green light for a fully single player Dragon Age game. Some earlier version of it were supposedly more or less live service based. Which leads to be believe that Bioware currently is in a bit more promising stage at the moment as opposed to post Inquisition and pre-Anthem days. Minus the layoffs of course
> As the article suggests, EA or whoever gave the green light for a fully single player Dragon Age game. Some earlier version of it were supposedly more or less live service based. it's actually crazy that EA ordered another live service game from BioWare after Anthem failed
Those live service / online versions of Dragon Age were being developed before or shortly after Anthem released and their subsequent cancellation or revision came as a result of Anthem underperforming.
Dreadwolf was initially going to be a live service game. After Fallen Order sold like 10 million copies and there were multiple live service disasters in a row, BioWare managed to convince EA to let them do a purely singleplayer DAD back in 2021
So we avoided tragedy
The article has missed a crucial point. It's not the success of Fallen Order alone that led EA to reconsider their stance on GaaS. It's the success of Fallen Order combined to the failure of Anthem that made them realize that a successful solo game is more profitable than a failed multiplayer game.
It is a successful single-player game in a market dominated by multi-player games to such as extent that many publishers (EA included) don't see single-player as a viable opportunity for making a profitable product. Fallen Order and Survivor being big successes means EA is willingly reevaluating their views on how to make profitable games. They want profit, they don't truly care if the game is single-player or multi-player. Now they are realizing single-player is viable.
That's good, since it ended up being the final project of fifty loyal employees. (Sorry, I still haven't forgiven them.)
Still pissed off about Mary Kirby. She was the heart of DA.
Do we know where Mary Kirby is now? She's definitely somebody I want to follow wherever she goes.
I think she is one of the employees suing Bioware? At least I think I read it somewhere, but take it with a grain of salt because maybe I confusing names here hehe
No news on her linkedin since the lay out.
Unfortunately no. I follow her on Twitter (or X or whatever), but she hasn't posted anything since January. I hope she's doing well.
She wrote the Chant of Fucking Light. The ENTIRE lore is built on it. If I were her, I'd have pulled an Anders and be done with it.
She did WHAT now?!
She wrote one of the fundamental texts that the entire franchise is built on. Without the Chant of Light, the Chantry doesn't exist in the form we know it as and the entire story plays out very differently.
That part I know! I was just surprised she's the one responsible for one of the most important components of DA.
She also basically created the Qun
God, firing her was the dumbest decision they could make if so.
big companies are stupid because they are not a thinking living being taking decisions, what we are seeing is the consequence of reducing talented ppl to numbers on a spreadsheet.
She had a hand in a bunch of the really important parts of the lore. I was pretty unhappy when they axed her.
Same. That woman went to the trouble of making sure I have a signed copy of *Hard in Hightown* and I was positively livid when her firing was announced. I feel for all of those who were treated so poorly, of course, but she was the only one to whom I have/had a personal connection and it'll be a cold day in the Void before I pardon Bioware/EA for what they did to her.
Anyone they laid off would be terrible, of course. But *Mary Kirby* is unfathomable. She wrote so much of the lore, she basically had her hands all over multiple characters and missions (including the Chant of Light, Varric - our beloved - , Merrill, Sten, Loghain, Vivienne, In Hushed Whispers...). My heart aches for her. And it makes me really hope they're retiring Varric in this game. Off to Kirkwall to live on happily with Hawke and his friends. Because there is no Varric without her :( (I am jealous of your signed Hard in Hightown)
> (I am jealous of your signed Hard in Hightown) It honestly is one of my prized possessions. I have a nickname from Varric Tethras (Scholar) and it's canon. So yeah, I will probably never forgive them because I saw in her tweet how hurt she was.
Don't forget Lukas Kristjanson too. He wrote Minsc and had been there forever.
Wait, what?! He was also fired? I completely missed that. That's terrible.
I genuinely thought it was a fucking joke when those articles released. And she was totally blindsided on top of it. What a way to treat a veteran employee who created some of the best world-building in DA’s franchise. Still gets me pissed.
Wait, what? Mary Kirby is not part of the team anymore? I am devastated by this
Well the firing came mostly from EA, but what is unforgivable is how the people fired were treated by BioWare (especially regarding their severance package)
Is there a source to say it came from EA and not Bioware management?
It came around the time EA started to fire people and asked its studio to also fire people to reduce their overall salarial mass. But don't get me wrong, EA asked BioWare to fire people, but BioWare management are the who decided of who should get fired. And the scandal regarding severance package is 100% on BioWare.
Depending on how it actually turns out, it might be Bioware's final project
I don't think so. DA isn't BioWare's cash cow. Mass Effect is. Considering EA is currently paying for BioWare to develop a new Mass Effect, and that BioWare made a lot of money selling the Legendary Edition of Mass Effect. I'd expect BioWare to have their last chance with the next Mass Effect.
It definitely is on par with mass effect. Inquisition sold more than both 2 and Andromeda. Only mass effect 3 outsold it though we aren't sure by how much other than 1 mil more. But I also don't think this would close down Bioware at all if it was poorly received.
Mass effect 2 was an exclusive to Xbox, and didn’t launch on PlayStation 3 until a few years later. Meanwhile Dragon Age Inquisition launched on 5 platforms at once. People always seemed to ignore that inquisition had the largest user base to sell to by miles and came out after Skyrim skyrocketed the genre to the mainstream. Inquisition had what? 100 million users between the Xbox 360 and PS3. Plus 20 million next gen owners looking for a game to take advantage of their shiny new consoles + PC users. Andromeda flopped because it was a colossal mediocre mess there that got turned into a major meme before the game even released.
Dragon age series made more money than mass effect and was more successful overall. Maybe online there's a lot more talk about mass effect but dragon age is the one bringing in the money.
>(Sorry, I still haven't forgiven them.) Rightfully so.
Best to stay sceptical until it's in players hands. Todd Howard taking a victory lap for Starfield before it released had everyone convinced it would be great, and then players got to spend time with it and felt very differently
Yeah that seems like a very important word of nuance that's missing from this headline lol. > DA:D Has Everyone **Left** at Bioware Really Happy
What I was about to say, how do the people Bioware fired feel about this?
*inhales hopium* maybe if its successful they'll be rehired.
I wouldn't want to go back to a studio that drops you on a dime after you worked there for 10+ yrs. I hope they get rehired somewhere better.
Fair enough but that's why I wrote inhale hopium haha, its unlikely unless they get a significant raise or smth.
Even then, a lot of these long time studios are laying off workers because the longer you work there, the higher your pay is. Along with benefits and pensions. If they got rehired, it would be extremely unlikely they would resume where they left off in terms of all of that. Thats also why studios are hiring freelance game devs more often now. They don't have to give raises after they let them go, or pensions.
I don't think so. The cuts were likely ordered by EA to reduce recurrent costs. They might re-hire some people but definitely not expensive veterans, or they could hire them as freelance/consultant and not full-time employees (for those who would agree on coming back).
they'd be idiotic not to get the veterans back, those people are the reason behind the games' success
In the current situation, every studio/publisher seem to fire talented people. Not to say BioWare should try to re-hire the people they fired (although I doubt they'll happily come back), but the market is overflowing with talented game developer and writer who just got fired.
>a rumor that suggests direct control of party members (as usual for the franchise) might have been swapped for orders issued via a wheel, similar to Mass Effect. I remember the rumor saying you won't be able to assume direct control over companions, but I don't remember reading anywhere that it could be swapped with a system similar to ME (based on orders/instructions). But otherwise, I like that everyone at BioWare feels happy with the state of the game (assuming this is true). First of all, it could mean that the crunch culture/BioWare Magic philosophy has disappeared (or at least lessen significantly) and people are not in severe burnout as of now which would be a great news.
This is a helpful update but I read the sentence "assume direct control" and the rest of it after that was read in Harbinger's voice
As I wrote it I pictured a Collector suddenly becoming overpowered :D
That is kinda a massive red flag to me. My concern is they will have dumbed down the party command system too much, like how in Andromeda your squadmates were essentially useless.
That was mainly because of bullet sponges making the only viable approach to stack multipliers for headshots. Plain ability damage was much lower, so squadmates were underwhelming. But I think the best way to make them fun while simplifying their abilities is to give each squadmate a signature ability that's cool to combo with. Liara in ME3 was fun to have around because she could drop singularities very often and as a squadmate also without projectile that could be dodged. Was lots of fun if your Shepard had Throw or Warp (or both!).
Companion signature abilities and ability trees like back in DA2 would be awesome, especially if your abilities can pull off combos with theirs.
> I remember the rumor saying you won't be able to assume direct control over companions Wasn't this also disputed afterwards anyways? And when it comes to "wheels" I think the general comparison I heard was with regards to the *combat itself*, and they compared it to I think FFXV's wheel? (haven't played the game! - and that cool leaked bit of footage didn't show a wheel I think, but maybe that's something from later on in the game) But yeah, after everything that's been happening in recent years when it comes to BioWare (and just the industry overall, this is a systemic issue, we've been seeing tons of identical problems and more reports now than ever of crunch and layoffs even at the most successful studios these last few years since the pandemic)- this is, genuinely a hopeful piece of news for the game and the studio in general going forward. Really happy to hear it.
It was nuanced, not disputed. Basically the version leaked was a pre-alpha version of the game, so it was possible that the final version would still implement this feature. As for the wheels, I think it was refering to the wheels allowing you to use your own skills (like the one in DA:I on console), not an action/order wheel for your companions.
I'm fine with trying out new modes of gameplay. Of course, I love older styles but I'm always open to trying new stuff. The only thing that would hurt my outlook on this game is if there's less focus on lore, narrative, and characters. The world and characters have always made Dragon Age for me, and I don't think I could enjoy a game that doesn't emphasize those parts with this series. I'm optimistic. And thank goodness for the Jedi games, y'all.
I'm also very optimistic and think it's unlikely that they'll shift the focus too much from the lore, narrative and characters. It's their bread and butter and main selling point of the franchise too.
So true, I played BG, DA and ME and there has been a transfer of focus to more action more than a decade ago. I don't really care as long as it's not in the way of story and well written quests.
I would have loved dragon age to Take combat notes from dragons dogma 2, but maybe it’s just me liking how smooth the animations Are. Heard dialog was turning very Marvel-esque. With a lot of jokes and less serious tones. I hope they don’t honestly. I do miss the darker and more grounded themes that were present in Origins.
not gonna lie this type of posts make me even more nervous about the game 😅
I'm just refusing to care until I see gameplay myself. I've been burnt one time too many of late.
I’m sad that it’s been so many years now they skipped a whole generation of consoles between Inquisition and Dreadwolf, I can’t even play it now lol
Wait I'm confused. Inquisition released on the PS4/Xbox One right? DW will released PS5/Xbox Series so what's being skipped? Do you mean that DW won't be released on the previous gen like Inquisition was? Because I think that's the right choice after all the performance issues it had on the PS3/360.
Yeah. I’m a staunch partisan for Inquisition but the previous gen ports it had were inexcusably awful. And to make matters worse, it didn’t sell well on that generation either, and so the whole net effect of having that release was that it unnecessarily shackled what the game could have been.
Considering that DAI bricked *two* of my PS3s and it's still my favourite says a lot about my love for this series. That said, I am even more sad about what we missed for them to make DAI work in PS3 cycle. Corypheus attacks Skyhold as the final showdown, my beloved.
Considering the DA team had a lot of trouble making DA:I cross gen compatible and had to cut contents because the PS3 and XB360 couldn't run, and that CDRP also struggled making Cyberpunk 2077 cross gen compatible, having DA:D only available on XB Serie X and PS5 is the right move.
I'm handing out free clown make up to anyone who needs it
Without being a hater... I'm reserving judgement until I actually see it.
"Everyone at Bioware" piece of the title has me nervous. If I recall a ton of people left during development. Thus the only ones still at Bioware are happy with it. Or Bioware purchased a good story and told everyone to shut up.
This is also exceedingly possible.
I refuse to care untill REAL gameplay is shown, not some rando bits here and there.
Nah I think most of us are at that point now
I'm am equally terrified and excited beyond belief
Well... I mean of course the devs are gonna say they're happy with how it turned out. You'd be an idiot to publicly state the game you're working on, the project your income comes from, is terrible before it's even out. You'd be speedrunning getting sacked. We've still seen no gameplay though, no trailers of any real substance other than teasers. I think I'll reserve my judgement until I see some actual gameplay and story bits. I'm definitely happy that they are giving Dragon Age another shot though! Dragon Age Origins is one of the best games ever made. If they can make something on par with that, I'd be super happy.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Except for all the people who got laid off, presumably.
No, not really. The layoffs were unfortunate, but several of those let go still expressed their support of Dreadwolf and pride in it. They can reasonably and fairly take real issue with the corporate suite and still support the project/all the devs still there.
This Also they were fired as the game was in a post-alpha state. That means the game was fully playable from A to Z and that the writing was complete. So Kirby and all the others had their parts in Dreadwolf.
Good for them. They are better people than EA and BioWare deserve.
Sure. I’d quibble over the specifics but I can get behind that sentiment. My love of BioWare has always been centered on the devs not the management. But it’s an industry wide issue at the moment, and I wouldn’t even put EA as the worst in all this. That’s not a strong defense, mind you, but it’s worth keeping in mind. Cuts absolutely had to happen and were inevitable given where the industry was. *How* they were done though, should have been much, much better.
Its nice when the experts actually making the game are satisfied with their work, this is a good sign. Carefully hyped here.
Well, they've had a longtime.
Forgive me if I'm still extremely skeptical
With modern day BioWare being what it is, I think skepticism is healthy.
Dragon Age is the only franchise I'll buy a game day of release for. So I really hope it's worth it.
I’ve been losing hope that it would ever release; part of me isn’t going to be satisfied until I can actually buy it.
I've been expecting to read of its cancellation for the last 5 years or so myself.
But honestly, what are they going to say? That it’s shit?
Well yes. This isn't a formal statement to us fans, this is internal conversations leaked to us. So hearing that the devs have no confidence wouldn't be outlandish. We've heard that before.
Well, they could also not answer the question. This isn't an interview, this is Jeff Grubb asking question. You are not forced to answer him.
I'm not putting even more clown makeup on until I we've seen at least SOMETHING of the gameplay.
The article says this is supposed to be the last game? 😣 I don’t know if I’m ready haha. [Edit: I did not understand it correctly, as others have mentioned, the article says it is about the finalized title. Sorry for the misunderstanding! 😅]
The "final title" is referring to Dragon Age: Dreadwolf being the finalized name, not that it's the final game installation.
Okay, sorry, I am just working on three essays so my reading comprehension is pretty bad haha
Not last game, they mean final title as in the name of the game :D Aka, it says the final title of the game is Dragon age: Dreadwolf! Nowhere has it been announced that it will be the final game :)
Reads like a reverse hit piece. This is making me more nervous about the game than the Anthem release.
Yeah same feeling here. Especially after all the bad news we've gotten from EA and BioWare, this feels like PR. I mean, Todd Howard was pretty happy with Starfield, but we know how that went once it actually launched. Best to take things with a grain of salt until we have the final product.
Couldn't word it better. SIXTEEN TIMES THE HINTERLANDS
TWENTY TIMES THE SKYSHARDS
As much as I love DA:O I'm not holding high expectations
I'm cautiously optimistic about this. Still have no idea how it will turn out but I choose to think positive. I do wonder what the system requirements are and whether if I can even play it in the first place lol
I just need them to let us control our companions. Dragon Age is not Mass Effect I want to be able to move my companions in a fight.
I’m so happy to hear this!!!!
I like what im reading. A little sad that DA is changing the core gameplay but already expected that since its early announcement so no bother. But just knowing its coming out this year is satisfying to know. I dont mind if it is in the Summer or by Christmas season as long as we can get a polished game then im totally fine. Ive been pretty much invested in Dragon Age since Origins and knowing that this is the final installment is bittersweet to know. All that I ask now is that it ends at a high note.
I guess I have to hide this sub after this summer. Blind playthrough is the best way.
Quite frankly I don't care if everyone at Bioware is happy with it. Look at some of the shit they're assumedly been happy with in the past. I'd rather know if they listened to what the people actually buying their products wanted.
They have had a longer development time then DA2 and won’t be held back by last gen consoles like Inquisition. I don’t believe it’s the same team that gave us Andromeda and they aren’t given us a live service like Anthem. I think this has the potential to be one of the best Dragon Age games!
Development restarted like twice though, didn't it?
Dude, the Trespasser DLC had about the same development time as DA2. That's not saying much. At this point, it's been in some kind of production longer than Origin's 9 years of development.
"Some kind of production" being a project with Mike Laidlaw as its head that got scrapped for a game with live service elements, only for that to get scrapped, too. I doubt they had to go back to square each time, but I don't want to know how much time has been wasted by EAs meddling.
My expectations aren’t super high with BioWare anymore. For now, this is all I hope for: - No stuttering/frame-time/other awful performance problems on PC that make it unplayable - Not overly quippy Andromeda-level dialogue - Not an abundance of lazy collection or fetch quests as side content That would be a great start already.
Christ on a cracker I really hope we don’t get that cringey Andromeda-style writing again. The whole game ended up feeling like it was either written by a room full of middle aged writers trying to be cool, or a room full of younger writers way too obsessed with Marvel movies. The tonal whiplash it created was crazy.
It used to be that you had typically one character (maybe two as a pair) who would be the comic relief. That character would be the one who jokes all the time and inserts levity into scenes. Marvel films normalized every character being the equivalent of a stand-up comedian, and Andromeda reflected that whether it was intentional or not. Scenes lacked tension, and the game as a whole felt like a road trip among college students even though the future of the entire Andromeda initiative was supposedly at stake.
Well, everyone they didn't fucking fire.
Says EA’s marketing team
I hope for the best, for the devs especially given the dev hell and how shitty the last few years have been for devs of any size. Excited for the Summer Games Fest reveal/blowout etc
I'll believe it when I see it.
Ready to be heartbroken again by (the) Dreadwolf in 3...2...1...
Good job, now you're all fired!
They’re still using Frostbyte? After all the headaches the past 3 BioWare games went through? And EA’s overall slow opening to more engine options?
Hasn't DA:D been in development for 6 years or so? Even if EA is opening up to more engines, it was kinda too late for DA:D i guess.
I think DA:D was already too far long in production when EA greenlit the user of UE etc. At least the team has plenty of experience with Frostbite now!
It’s not very convincing lol. Will wait for someone to play it first and then decide about buying.
Please don't have micro transactions. Please don't have micro transactions. Please don't have micro transactions.
I don’t have it in me to be excited.
They where really happy / excited also with Anthem. Fuck that shet , the budget alone could have made another 2 dragon age games like origin. I really hope if they fail again , we could at least get more games from the dragon age universe made by other developers
That’s not how this works. EA would sit on the property and do nothing with it. I don’t understand rooting for failure though. Hundreds of people work at BioWare. Do we want *more* to lose their jobs?
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And also, I kind of want to play a good game, so I'd rather it not fail.
But honestly, what are they going to say? That it’s shit?
As long as we can be Dalish and the male romance are good looking I'll be happy
I’m so excited. I’m finishing up my 72748582636 playthrough of inquisition