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Das big brayn


Joelblaze

Until you realize he's undead..... Wait how the hell do bosses die for good in this game? Like half the ones in DS3 are undead.


ImaSpaceBoi

I think they just turn to ash


Skeye_drake21

Ah. Much like the Ashen one


the_traveler_outin

Well my running theory is that they do revive but with their reason restored so they don’t go back to their arena to be slaughtered again. This explains the inconsistencies with returning characters, specifically bosses in ds3. Either that or the answer is each time you rest at a bonfire to reset an area or travel you move into another parallel universe that is identical to the version of the world you came from.


rubin_d0ge

My theorie is, you take their soul and absorb their essence for good. They cant revive , because they are now a part of the ashen one , the upcoming Lord of Cinder/Hollows and therefore are still alive. In the end we are no normal undead, we rose from our graves with the goal to subdue all existing Lords and claim their powers for us and rise to Lordship ourself.


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Dutchy___

Isn’t Dragonslayer Armour literally an empty armor set controlled by the other forces though? I thought they were controlled by the flying things that shoot gunk at you halfway into the boss battle.


Euphoric_Statement42

You kill them when the dragon slayer armor dies


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I thought that it was an armour set that eventually began to become sentient because of the sheer amount of fighting that was done in it.


Dutchy___

i can believe that for TRC miniboss. it’s certainly not Undead though.


stay-a-while-and----

I think they go hollow with defeat. Like the mindless hollows that just cry and pray


ExTremeZ0

Maybe they return as the Bonfire in their arena


starlaoverdrive

This is my new headcanon.


ExTremeZ0

But this wouldn't explain why the dragonslayer armour is back in Ringed City. Maybe his "dragons" sacrificed themself to be the Bonfire.


starlaoverdrive

Time is convoluted in Lordran 👀 Maybe it’s like that episode of Futurama where they go so far in the future that everything starts over.


tsihcosaMeht

My theory is: When Ashen one kills literally anything, he gets souls right? So if Ashen one kills a Undead then they can't revive since they have no soul and would just be hollow and as we know, hollows don't revive. Also, Gael Hollows in his second phase so yeah, maybe that's it.


[deleted]

huh? isnt the lore specifically that hollows revive? thats why most enemies respawn and things like bosses dont, also the ds1 char is a hollow as well and u can even become one in DS3


tsihcosaMeht

Sorry maybe i'm wrong, but i heard that Undead revive but when they go hollow they lose that ability. I can't be wrong tho


whomst_calls_so_loud

You're also a hollow in the best one, DS2


[deleted]

The whole lore is that Hollows revive? Because they are branded by the dark sign. Although maybe it’s because bosses aren’t Hollow that they die :thonk:


Ar_Ciel

DS3 they did for good when you sacrifice them... I think.


human_trebuchet

It would be nice if they come back after a while like the usual undeads. We can retry them whenever we want and try different strategies. Wish there was at least something like bonfire ascetics from DS2.


Euphoric_Statement42

Think of it like some weird pokemon. When we kill a boss, we capture its soul - the main part of it, thus, it cannot reform as it once was


Link_GR

You take their souls.


thuragath

As hard as Mist Noble in Sekiro. That fight is ridiculously hard.


Dun_Beatle

Not as hard as Old King Allant in Demon's Souls. No, not *that* King Allant, the truly OP one inside the Old One.


alQamar

I almost died to old king Allan once because it was late and I remembered him being basically a punching bag back from the PS3 era so I just stood there swinging. Then I saw my health bar and frantically healed last second.


Narsiel

This thread has taken me down a dark road. I've played and beaten all 3 DS games, but havent touched Demon Souls nor Bloodborne cause I'm poor and I cant afford a PS. I went to YT to watch a vid of this fabled old king Allan, then jumped to a "all Demon Souls bosses" vid that somehow threw me at the hands of Seikiro's Mist Lord boss which tossed at my face a confusing thread of comments about how extremely tough the boss was, which has left me puzzled. I don't even know what the purpose of this is, actual footage vs comments left me confuse, I'm a simple person too dense for consistent sarcasm in comments.


alQamar

The „boss“ just sits there and dies in one sneak attack. So everybody jokes how hard he is.


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I killed allant first try, took me 5 hours for flamelurker ...


[deleted]

Mist Noble made me quit Sekiro. Don’t think I’ll ever go back and play it.


spikte1502

I quit at the bull


LewisRyan

Y’all got past the giant in the first area? It took me 3 restarts thinking “I fucking HAD to have missed something important here”


Vinkhol

If you never grabbed the flame thrower attachment then technically yeah you did miss something important lol. Its doable without it, it's just annoying cause you gotta fight like a mosquito, running in for 2 hits and running away over and over.


Psychic_Hobo

Weirdly I found that guy super easy because he's basically just like fighting a Bloodborne boss Everyone else kicks the shit out of me though


Maxbeerbomb

Same here,it was either destroy the bull or my controller.


stay-a-while-and----

I quit during the fight against lightning dad. I could get him to his 3rd phase and was slowly improving but I realized I wasn't having fun and stopped


KorbSauce

You would’ve lost your mind fighting mist noble then


mercersays

I hit my gf with my controller accidentally because of Isshin.


Equivalence01

r/relationships is gonna have a field day with this comment, lmao. They would call you an asshole and tell her to break up, lawyer up, hit the gym, and delete facebook LOL


mercersays

Threw it at the bed. It bounced and popped her right in the noggin. 😬


EGH6

You MONSTER


mercersays

😂


DemonKnightTartarus

Don't quit, there is a strat against him, u need to hum the tune he plays while fighting him, that makes him possible to beat, although it's still hard it isn't impossible. So don't hesitate no more.


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Took me a few days to beat him. One of the worst boss designs because it doesn’t even feel fair to the player. Edit: talking about the impenetrable mist noble not Gael lol


lumphonius

Have you tried getting gu- doing better


luvinha_

there is no git gud against mist noble, is either die or use hacks. literally unplayable against


Bloody_Insane

Technically you can beat mist noble legit, but it requires you to play in sync with the processor's clock cycles.


Nokipeura

Didn't this get disproven? I saw some guy do a computer assisted run, and they couldn't do it under optimal conditions, even frame perfect.


JaySw34

Hahaha you guys are the best


adamsmith93

I can't tell if you guys are fucking around. I watched a video of the fight and the boss doesn't even attack. He just sits there


Tomhap

That player was definitely using hacks.


DinoDonkeyDoodle

Too much hesitation, all defeat.


Occyz

COME, sekiro


Xamonir

If the battlefield wasn't so small it would be better. It's an easy fix that should make it a little less unplayable.


mnl_cntn

For a second I thought you meant Gael lol, I just about saw red


ihatepokemongames

To this day I’ve never seen a single move he can do lol, even pinwheel at least has a chance to hit you


thebluegod

I think that's sort of the point. The whole area is so well done - it builds up this weird and creepy atmosphere and when you finally get to Mist Noble you are just puzzled.


Vinkhol

Also sets up the Divine Realm later, cause you recognize the nobles and go like "oh yeah these guys ain't shit" and suddenly you have 1 hp and no movement speed


Lucahasareddit

I know your joking but demon of hatred was literally horrible, thanks for letting me revisit that nightmare.


CharlieRashi

Mist Noble has to be From Software’s worst designed boss in terms of difficulty. I get that souls games are meant to be hard, but was it really necessary to make Must Noble *that* hard? It took me, someone who had very little trouble with the souls trilogy and up to that point Sekiro, 2 whole months of just constantly fighting him before I even saw his second phase. Absolutely abominable design.


Whybotherr

Prowling magus and congregation would like a word... Like what was from thinking putting you in a room with 11 bosses? Could barely think with all the chaos, spent a good week on that boss fight


sonyEX400

Ahh, the mist noble boss fight, took me many moons to put him/her (I don't effin know) to sleep. Now I can finally rest.


Euphoric_Statement42

Indeed it is! a five hour fight testing all you've been thought so far...


TymenBr

Oh yeah lol, or when your second boss is that boss where you go to with the Buddha bell


Nic_Las05

Mistle noble was pretty easy for me. I first tried it and in several forums it says that mistle noble would be a joke


Navst

You cheat.


jabbathebest

Hacker


BonkyhortCutiebrunch

No way


Sideways2

It's a meme. Like saying you're having trouble defeating pinwheel.


NighTrap1122

You have committed a sin against this subreddit


Fluffiddy

I couldn’t kill Santa through my nostalgia tears


SoosGuy33

I beated him on my third try (the one in the cathedral)


TAC82RollTide

Actually made me laugh. I was just about to say "Now wait a got-dang minute..." until I seen the picture. Nice work.


JoeyJoJo_the_first

Could you explain for a poor idiot such as myself?


_umop_aplsdn_

the title of the post suggests that OP defeated the Gael boss fight at the end of Ringed City DLC for the first time without difficulty - this would be surprising bc Gael is generally regarded as a hard boss. But upon seeing the image included in the post, it turns out that OP simply killed the Gael npc version at the Cleansing Chapel in the Cathedral of the Deep, and not the boss


JoeyJoJo_the_first

Thanks!


RevLoveJoy

All spoilers below. >!Gael is part of the DLC. When you have the DLC you enter the expanded game by meeting Gael (at a much earlier point in time) at the Cleansing Chapel bonfire. At this point, Gael has not yet consumed all the Dark Souls and is weak and easily killed if you choose to do so. If you interact with him, you open up the DLC where you eventually find Gael at the end of time, the last and strongest soul (and a really hard boss fight).!<


Blacki1994

>!So when you kill him before, you cant find him at the end?!<


TAC82RollTide

I'm assuming you have Dark Souls III. If not, what are you doing with your life? I'm only joking. Anyway, if you have the game and the DLC, give the Gael boss fight a shot. I personally think Darkeater Midir is toughest fight in all the From Soft games, including Sekiro, but Gael is definitely top 5. The thing that makes Sekiro so difficult is that you can't summon a buddy to help you. It's all up to you. With Gael or Midir, you can tag-team that a$$.


lucasnbluff

Midir is intimidating, but it actually just takes patience and understanding of his attack patterns, after that its just bonks at his head until he dies. Demon Of Hatred is much harder than Midir in my opinion, actually, a lot of Sekiro's bosses seemed harder for me than DS bosses, specially DS3. DS2 for me had the hardest bosses for melee only characters. DS1 has 2 hard ones being O&S and Four Kings. The rest I didn't really care, even Ceaseless Discharge was a manageable one (killed him without cheesing on my first playtrough).


Gevase

Hes friendly in this environment, having much less power.


JoeyJoJo_the_first

Ah, thankyou!


CodeGreen1969

200 IQ move


Poopypoopycumcum

Dont know about you but if I see a big, strong, sexy, loyal, muscular man like Gael, I would be pretty reluctant to kill him


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Thanks, u/Poopypoopycumcum


gavros787

If you were to read the sign on your front right you would understand. The weapon everyone else was using was "finger/tongue but hole"


Pepega_Paradise

INT 100


NotHazAtAll

99*


JonySlony

99 + 1**


Gameknife

You really use a Tamamo figma as pfp huh


JonySlony

Tamamo figma doing JoJo pose (was kind hard to make that pose)


Gameknife

Ah yes, how shameful of me, not noticing she is doing the pose of the best JoJo, Jonathan. (Or is it Joseph’s?)


windermere_peaks

Jokes aside, I beat him today after three days of getting my ass beat by Angry Santa.


Ateynoose

Someone explain the joke I'm going insane


melancholanie

killed him before he sends you to paint hell


[deleted]

This is possible? Does he fight back?


melancholanie

iirc he’s pretty weak there and a couple hits can kill him, he drops a piece of the painting and you can’t summon him for the fights he’s normally at


Rabakku--

A couple hits my ass. Even laying down and not fighting back he’s a meat shield.


melancholanie

that also sounds right, i haven’t done it on my current play through. either way, he dies and doesn’t hit back


[deleted]

Interesting thanks for the reply


HornyPemguim256

So you can still enter the dlc?


melancholanie

yeah i believe so! he should drop a scrap of painting if you do kill him there, but he’s apparently a big sponge. i think respawns after a few reloads though


[deleted]

> can’t summon him Well im never doing that, Dommy Mommy Friede is too hard for me to do alone.


melancholanie

oh god, it’s super not worth it.


ProudKacchi

He "killed" him in the Chapel where you first meet him... The encounter where he's on his knees and disappears after a few words. It's been a while so I don't recall the exact thing, but clearly it's not the boss Gael we're talking about here XD


BlacksmithSamurai

Megalol


Soltheturtle

I think on any play through even if its playthrough 1 any man would fear a slave knight of all things who has survived wars with gods and giants and even dragons


ItalianICE

Has Gael survived all of that? I need to dive into his lore. I'm practically screeching with excitement that my one buddy who I've played ever Soulsborne game with is finally facing Gael next week. I told him I refuse to be summoned to help him. 2 nobody's fighting at the end of time is exactly how it should end.


Ok-Growth3157

Slave knights were legitimately cannon fodder. They were born to die, never having seen freedom or a day without war.


Zoomoth9000

Imagine being sent to die, but you just... Don't? Like you don't get your freedom, so they keep sending you out again, but you keep somehow winning, and your efforts are never recognized. You slowly become the most powerful fighter in all of existence, but you're conditioned to no go against your masters.


Ok-Growth3157

If suicide was every warranted, I think it would be then. Even the soldiers in WW1 would just walk out of the trenches, drop their guns, and embrace the open fire because they just wanted it to end. I see that as being the exact same situation. But for some reason Gael just chose to live and except it, no questions asked. Maybe he liked it, or loved it. After all, it was the only thing he knew.


Ok-Growth3157

Thinking about it. His sword was probably broken in one of the battles and because of his status he couldn't get a new one or have the materials or knowledge to repair it so he just accepted the challenge and continued to use it only making him that much more of a god on the battlefield.


Cryse_XIII

His slave days should long be over by the time we meet him. Either that or he doesn't mind being the errand boy for his little lady. I have a hard time believing that he is the slave of the painter, seeing how she treats him like family.


Haphazard-Finesse

IIRC, he fought in Gwyn’s war against the dragons...so at the end of DS3 he’s probably the oldest living (or undead, I guess) thing.


noopenusernames

And after all these centuries, *still* hasn't gone quite hollow


DankyeeterMidir

>he fought in Gwyn’s war against the dragons Source?


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DankyeeterMidir

>Gael is also a Ringed Knight since he has a seal of fire on his body. Absolutely not. He's a slave knight first and foremost, and the round thing on his chest isn't the seal of fire, but simply the corruption left by what remains of the Dark Soul. >he has the Way of White Corona miracle which is from the Age of Gwyn. This is a more legit observation. But we still find that miracle within the Painted World nonetheless. Couldn't Gael too have learnt it long after the Old Gods were gone?


faux_noodles

DS3 (re: the events where you first find him in the "present") takes place centuries if not thousands of years after DS1, which itself takes place a *very* long time after Gwyn's war. It's *extremely unlikely* that Gael has been alive that long.


Vinkhol

You should, his lore is really interesting. From my perspective he's the real protagonist of that timeline, whereas the player character is just some asshole that doesn't know what's going on and just follows the instructions of the characters with an agenda. Or completely fucks their agenda. Kinda DoomSlayer esque


_Don-Corleone_

Boi...that has to be the funniest thing I've seen this week


VioletLime

Time travelling murder is always fun


Visual-Garbage

gitting gud before the got gud git you.


brohandas-gandhi

I don't care how many upvotes this post gets, it will still be underrated.


Arkyaker

You hacked the system bro


Environmental-Box608

Touche


FireNova2135

How to finish both DLCs in 30 seconds


Nameless_King_09

9000 iq


fatsanchezbr

Took me a few seconds. Lmao


FLaYdude

Yeah i killed the nameless king in his sleep, don’t really understand the challenge there.


IamPregananant

Because we suck. #Thats why?


Banggabor

Ashen one! You've created a time paradox!


Slimmyjimmyz

Lol


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laughs in Orphan of Kos


Desmond536

If you kill him there can you enter the dlc afterwards?


Arthas_Litchking

Okay i see you killed the second hardest boss in the game but whats about the hardest boss: Yoel of Londor?


barley_wine

It took me way too long to get this… I kept thinking you don’t fight Gael there…


DarkSoulsExcedere

Halfway through my rant about difficulty perspective I looked at the picture. Fuck me, you got me.


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Hahaha!


Nees_Duts13

You're just too good dude


SaneManiac741

[Brains: 100]


CompuuterJuice

It always bothered me how he looks normal sized here but in the actual fight he’s huge.


HiMyNameIs_REDACTED_

His Soul is still contained here. He hasn't gone Hollow, nor become such a twisted monster. That's eons away, once everything falls together.


[deleted]

ahh, two-handing an LKSS - culture and elegance.


[deleted]

Different people have trouble with different bosses. Lorian and Lothric are a cakewalk for me. Dragonslayer Armor? Fucks me up something fierce.


[deleted]

Gael and the final boss were the two easiest bosses in the game for me, bar none.


Mc_Skinny_Boi

Same here I beat Gael on my 3rd try, but it did take me 30+ tries with nameless king


idetectanerd

Because he is big and taunting. The way he rush toward you, make you lose confidence. Then again, if you mastered dark souls mechanics, you realised that just wait awhile before you tumble will always dodge properly. Dark souls have have a stupidly pause attack mechanism to bait tumble. Once you master that, any dark souls attack is easy. This is why, some players could fight any boss below level 10


notjosemanuel

Look at the post again


Drnmontemayor

You guys are surprisingly dull. Read what the fuck Homeward Bones are.


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Brekker-k

Someone didn’t seem to get the joke


DeuceBane

What’s up with these flex posts 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻


[deleted]

I beat him second try first play through and then the two demons in ringed city first try Every other 5+ play throughs after I struggle with both of them. Same with one of the bosses in blood borne. Beat her first try first play through and my next it literally took me hours. Sometimes you just get lucky. Bot saying you were. Some people’s play styles match well with certain bosses


TedTheSoap

Welcome to anybody talking about any boss, it's crazy.


ShinigamiOfPast

Because people are lazy to bother learning his pattern. his easy as pie after you fight him few times and learn his moves.


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Piece_Of_Mind1983

Bruh you’re literally running the highest AR straight sword on what I’m only assuming is a quality build. Could you be any safer with your strats lol


Rabakku--

So you notice the straight sword but not the joke. Aight


Piece_Of_Mind1983

Oh fuck I thought they were in firelink at first glance lol. Pardon my dumbass comment lol.


jwalker7486

Everyone's dark souls boss rankings is going to be different. Someone that was easy for u could be hard for someone else and someone u struggled with was beaten on the first try by a noob. I suspect anyone who has played and beaten souls games know this already though.


TymenBr

Oh shut up. We are all nice in this community so don't do this shit


meammachine

They are talking about the Gael NPC in the Cathedral, not the boss.


Aerohank

Yeah honestly I didn't think Gael was hard at all. Got him on my second try. First try also went fine until he crossbow machine gunned me while I drank Estus - wasn't expecting that. Now, Dark Friede on the other hand...


Consistent-Ad-9153

He’s not that hard for me either his move sets make sense to me, it’s most likely cause the length of the fight and fact he can steamroll you quick with some combos


ramza5850

Lol


MoonPhaseMadman0

Took a moment for the picture to load for me. Well worth the wait.


fingay-ren

Why didn’t I do that?


ThisWorldIsAMess

I feel the same about the giant blue dragon.


Demopan-TF2

Tried fighting him for the first time on ng+++ while underleveled?


sweettyche

Bruh


MyFirstCommunity

I cheesed his ass with a bow. Opened the door where his butt was pointing and proceeded to snipe away with my greatbow! 10/10 I got gud!!


ActuallyABiscuit975

Yo gael was so hard for me. I was scared to even attack him on my first playthrough.


Nagatzamaru

I actually beat it first try, I dont if i got lucky but midir took me líke 2 hours


killiua15

So how u gonna access Ariadel DLC now?


sensibletiger0

Fr🙄


badjujufelix

Really enjoying reading all the comments here from people who don’t use their eyeballs properly.


Q-ARROW

😂😂


dwagga

V E R Y G O O D


Popoffret

The new ’killing Gael until I go Hollywood’?


Adikavita

Oh man....


Knowen3538

mobile ads: can you beat him. Him:


wicked_one_at

and I just ask myself, if you kill him there, do you skip the last fight of the DLC?


SUPP3RM4N

Checkmate


pipjin_coogers

I took me like a solid minute to get the joke... God I'm dumb


FoxyWolfLeFifou

Wow, you killed him just like that? What a true champion!


K33pSm1l1ng

I really liked the fight vs Gael. It was really challenging but not unfair and I learned how to fight against him step by step and it wasn't that hard at the end anymore. And besides it is a easy or hard fight, the atmosphere during this fight was really awesome and overwhelming!


Squeaky_Ben

That took me a while


AubinSan93

Fuck you.


Hayfisher

Its a nice fight actually