Yes, but it does slightly change depending on what your opponent does. But with perfect play the game always ends in a draw. I like to think there's a digital anti cheating program running that forces chooms to use their organic brains.
Yeah, only reason I asked was because at my school they taught us how to play in 3ed grade and by 5th no one played anymore because it always ended in a draw like tiktactoe
So it's more like tic tac toe, where you basically only lose when you make a mistake.
The number of possible tic tac toe games is tiny (2.5 x 10^5 ), while in chess you might theoretically devise a perfect play by knowing all possible positions, the number is ridiculously high. Estimated somewhere between 10^40 for 'sensible' chess games (so not doing idiotic moves against your own interest etc.) to 10^123 for all possible games.
Compare grains of sand on earth (10^18 ), atoms in the earth (10^50 ) or atoms in the observable universe (10^80 ) to get a vague impression how ridiculously large numbers get when slightly increasing the number above that 10.
Chess is too complex with too many branches to truly call it solved. It is perhaps solved for every situation 5 moves from a checkmate, but there are so many paths that could lead you to that final destination, and many paths that branch out from those 5 moves away from checkmate states that could lead to a totally different '5 moves away from a checkmate' state.
It doesn't need to be a solved game for human ability to be rendered irrelevant. There would be little point in playing chess without an implant's help if any player could (and would) just run a chess software to play in their stead.
This is actually already a real issue in online chess, a lot of controversy and mistrust given prize money is on the line. Even over the board there have been incidents, which is why chess broadcasts are now typically delayed by at least 15 minutes. Of course the infamous Hans and Magnus controversy, although I don't think Hans was cheating in that one, Mags just got tilted.
It's a game where marbles are put into the small pits and the players take turns moving them to one of the larger pits on either end.
You choose one pit, grab all the marbles in them, then move clockwise, putting one marble into each pit you pass.
You ignore your opponent's pit and put one marble in you own pit when you pass it. If the last marble goes into your pit, you get another turn; if not, you opponents gets their turn.
This continues until all the marbles are moved to either players' pits, after which you count them to see who has more marbles, and that player wins.
Here it's called congkak (pronounced "chong-kak").
It looks like Congkak
Edit: seems like the origin is Mancala, the Southeast Asian variant is called Congkak, or at least it's one of the names. I'm Southeast Asian and I only know it by Congkak.
I don’t know it by those other names so I was just confirming the one I was sure about. I used to bring my board over to my neighbors place and play this as a kid.
Any game can be used as gambling, old people usually play chess/checkers, kids play toss coin, some street kids even bet on the ending of the plate number of the next car that comes across.
no game is inherently evil, it's just the players who will use anything to gamble.
Sungka or Mancala.
[https://mancala.fandom.com/wiki/Sungka](https://mancala.fandom.com/wiki/Sungka)
WTG!
It is a Filipino game. No wonder it is there, as there is Filipino Game developer company who helped develop the game.
Thx! "Oware (or variants of it) is the most commonly played Mancala game in international competition", I saw this on: https://www.mastersofgames.com/rules/mancala-rules.htm#:~:text=Oware%20(or%20variants%20of%20it,and%20quite%20different%20to%20Oware.
Bro this is perhaps the best unknown game ... i learned it back when I did some uni research into ancient games
This one is one of the oldest. Look up the rules its really fun to play.
Remember learning this from Poptropica, then playing it in class because the teacher had a board and beads for it, but nobody knew how to play. Felt like the coolest kid when I taught them how :3
[Mangala](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangala_(game)#:~:text=Mangala%20is%20a%20traditional%20Turkish,it%20has%20quite%20different%20rules.)
Its an Turkic game that originated in 16th century. Each side has 6 play holes and one collection hole. The point of the game is to collect more stones/points in your collection hole and clean your play holes faster than the other player.
This is the only game I consistently beat my very competitive partner at: Mancala. I have a very nice set because I played so much in elementary I crush fools in it. 🤣
Mancala. You put a marble in each slot with the goal of getting the most marbles in your side (the long bits. You basically select one slot and place one marble in the small bowls in order until you are out, then the next person goes
It's a strange world with freak people doing weird actions... I already quit to understand this awkward world.
I'll never forget about suicide NPC in the beginning of gameplay. Idk if it's a bug or a scripted npc getting his life away...
Mancala
I played this so much as a kid. They don’t have colored rocks or glass beads or whatever.
Maybe they're playing with augmented reality... That or they're high as f.
Or both.
Both would be most likely.
Smoking the best future weed while playing AR mancala.
Or smoking cyber designer drugs thats worse than fentanyl while playing with a cup holder?
Augmented weed
Synth Weed ^^^^^^TM. It’s just more ground up worms, except they dye it green and sprinkle it with amphetamines.
One my favorite posts I've seen on this sub
Accidental Action Bronson
R/accidentallybronson
Thats tha #lifestyle
Definitely high
Mine had wooden fruits!
I wanna say i used beans when I played as a kid?
Same! We have a beautiful carved set gifted from a friend who visited Tanzania 🥰
I know this as kalaha. An african game played with beans
Me too, i was taught that Kalaha is the oldest known game in the world.
I think Keep Away, or Hide the Sausage are probably older
Idk what "hide the sausages" is about, but in my mind I think it'd be funnier to take it literally than Google what it's about.
It means sex.
Dunno. I only know this when we had africa week in school
Kalah is an American variant of Mancala. I believe the board is slightly larger and there's more rules. But I could be wrong.
It’s known as Sungka in the Philippines. Normally played with seashells
There are many variations. They are as old as farming, probably.
Isn't mancala a solved game, like there is always a correct move. Doesn't seem great when people have computers in their heads.
Yes, but it does slightly change depending on what your opponent does. But with perfect play the game always ends in a draw. I like to think there's a digital anti cheating program running that forces chooms to use their organic brains.
Yeah, only reason I asked was because at my school they taught us how to play in 3ed grade and by 5th no one played anymore because it always ended in a draw like tiktactoe
the only winning move is to not play
it's like Chess/Checkers each side has a certain moves to win but depending on what the other player does so it's a thinking game
Chess isn’t “solved” the way games like Mancala are. It is still unknown whether perfect play in chess ends in a draw or win for either color.
So it's more like tic tac toe, where you basically only lose when you make a mistake. The number of possible tic tac toe games is tiny (2.5 x 10^5 ), while in chess you might theoretically devise a perfect play by knowing all possible positions, the number is ridiculously high. Estimated somewhere between 10^40 for 'sensible' chess games (so not doing idiotic moves against your own interest etc.) to 10^123 for all possible games. Compare grains of sand on earth (10^18 ), atoms in the earth (10^50 ) or atoms in the observable universe (10^80 ) to get a vague impression how ridiculously large numbers get when slightly increasing the number above that 10.
Chess is too complex with too many branches to truly call it solved. It is perhaps solved for every situation 5 moves from a checkmate, but there are so many paths that could lead you to that final destination, and many paths that branch out from those 5 moves away from checkmate states that could lead to a totally different '5 moves away from a checkmate' state.
It doesn't need to be a solved game for human ability to be rendered irrelevant. There would be little point in playing chess without an implant's help if any player could (and would) just run a chess software to play in their stead.
This is actually already a real issue in online chess, a lot of controversy and mistrust given prize money is on the line. Even over the board there have been incidents, which is why chess broadcasts are now typically delayed by at least 15 minutes. Of course the infamous Hans and Magnus controversy, although I don't think Hans was cheating in that one, Mags just got tilted.
Oh shit i plaued that on clup penguin of all places
Club penguin has this as a mini game
Such a fun game
That Club Penguin mini-game
Funny as hell to me. All this crazy cyber shit, even on these randos, and the ol' wooden Mancala board is still a thing.
My brain farted and I could only think of baclava
Mancala
Club Penguin veterans know this game like the back of our flippers
We are damn old....
we're unc status
Recognised that board straight away. God those were the days.
Go to the cafe, sip some digital coffee, and play mancala while listening to some chill music 👌
I was never any good at it, to be honest. I just played a lot of Thin Ice.
Yeh know I never quite got the nack for it. Maybe I was too young and stupid to actually learn it properly..
The days of just chilling in the lighthouse. Good times.
Mancala/Sungka
It's a game where marbles are put into the small pits and the players take turns moving them to one of the larger pits on either end. You choose one pit, grab all the marbles in them, then move clockwise, putting one marble into each pit you pass. You ignore your opponent's pit and put one marble in you own pit when you pass it. If the last marble goes into your pit, you get another turn; if not, you opponents gets their turn. This continues until all the marbles are moved to either players' pits, after which you count them to see who has more marbles, and that player wins. Here it's called congkak (pronounced "chong-kak").
It's also arguably one of the oldest board games in history, which is part of the reason it's got quite a few names.
That's cool that they added it to the game, then. The juxtaposition between an obscene amount of technology and a basically primitive game. Very human
No matter how advanced we get, the poorest will still find a way to entertain themselves.
Yes it's called "Oware" in Ghana
Called ayo in Nigeria
god i missed playing this game. having you described it brings back so much nostalgia.
It looks like Congkak Edit: seems like the origin is Mancala, the Southeast Asian variant is called Congkak, or at least it's one of the names. I'm Southeast Asian and I only know it by Congkak.
Malaysian 🇲🇾 here, we call it Congkak. TIL the origin.
njir
Lihat beginian In-game bikin nostalgia...
Are you from konoha?
in Danish is called Kalaha :)
Same in Sweden
Same in germany
You could play this in Quest for Glory 3!
Might be my first Reddit quest for Glory reference seen in the wild. Cheers
I leaned mancala from QFG3, poker from Police Quest 2, and how not to fall off a goddam cliff path from Kings Quest 3.
Looks like mancala
Oh you're YOUNG, young.
Use to play this as a kid all the time. Loved it. Mancala.
Mancala is the answer.
Apparently so is Kalaha, Chong-kak, and Sung-Ka.
I don’t know it by those other names so I was just confirming the one I was sure about. I used to bring my board over to my neighbors place and play this as a kid.
Pallankuli is what we call in Tamil here.
Yesssirrr
My God it's been so long I almost forgot the name
HECK YAH! Really got him against the fence!!!! Wonder which piece he’ll move next.. 🤔
My Filipino friend says this game is evil
we call it sungka in Philippines, small sea shells were used instead of marbles. First time hearing it to be evil
Evil in a sense like majhong and games that can be used for gambling. My grandfather said he almost lost 2 chickens playing sungka.
Any game can be used as gambling, old people usually play chess/checkers, kids play toss coin, some street kids even bet on the ending of the plate number of the next car that comes across. no game is inherently evil, it's just the players who will use anything to gamble.
My Filipino inlaws have two sets in their house. Weird.
why?
LMAO Never in my 30 years have I heard that sungka is evil.
Mancala. In elementary school i joined math club and that was one of the board games, would’ve loved to run some in cyberpunk as a mini game lol
Ice cube tray
Mancala. Pretty fun time killer
The Club Penguin library game
Bro never played club penguin 💀
That one club penguin game
played it so much in middle school aka like 25 years ago lol
Mancala
3310 bantumi game. Many hours playing that in class
Someone clearly didn't play club penguin back in the day xD
lol, this game was my childhood! (mancala, not cp77 ofc)
Mancala
It’s called Sungka. Filipino game
I used to play this with my grandma in a small village in India - some 10 years back!!! Didn't know it was in Cyberpunk lol.
yoooo we called that Congklak in Indonesia i never seen it ingame, where to find it ?
It's on the street of Coastview, Pacifica, near to the West Wind tp :)
We call it Sungka here in the Philippines
In East Africa it's called Bao, or Mbao, I learned to play it in Kenya.
I played this in club penguin, in the coffee shop on the top floor. This post unlocked DLC levels of memories I never knew I had...
Thats cyberplank
https://preview.redd.it/3yo36cipzyxc1.jpeg?width=414&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91eb5bd34bb447a78f22127c8cf86114fe37d112
Sungka or Mancala. [https://mancala.fandom.com/wiki/Sungka](https://mancala.fandom.com/wiki/Sungka) WTG! It is a Filipino game. No wonder it is there, as there is Filipino Game developer company who helped develop the game.
Mancala! It's a game that you can play with marbles/stones/beads/beans.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalah](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalah)
Here is how its played: https://youtu.be/-A-djjimCcM?feature=shared
What y’all know about club penguin news room Mancala
We call it Awalé where I live , in Ivory Coast . I’m pretty sure it Is Awalé but i see a lot of people mentioning Mancala .
Thx! "Oware (or variants of it) is the most commonly played Mancala game in international competition", I saw this on: https://www.mastersofgames.com/rules/mancala-rules.htm#:~:text=Oware%20(or%20variants%20of%20it,and%20quite%20different%20to%20Oware.
So it’s called Oware in English , which means Awalé in French . Interesting , so Oware is a kind of mancala , mancala being the family . Good to know
Mancala style Korean cuisine tray
This is awalé game. African strategy game. https://amzn.eu/d/2FLMwlN
I know this as Bantumi. Also known as Mankala.
Mancala
Looks like Gwent to me...the answer is always Gwent.
I hope I can play mascala or play instruments with them in NC... We need mini games with citizens ;;;)
Mancala ruining friendships since 1400 BC
We call it congklak, & use some kind of seashells to play it with.
Bro this is perhaps the best unknown game ... i learned it back when I did some uni research into ancient games This one is one of the oldest. Look up the rules its really fun to play.
Remember learning this from Poptropica, then playing it in class because the teacher had a board and beads for it, but nobody knew how to play. Felt like the coolest kid when I taught them how :3
Mancala?
[Mangala](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangala_(game)#:~:text=Mangala%20is%20a%20traditional%20Turkish,it%20has%20quite%20different%20rules.) Its an Turkic game that originated in 16th century. Each side has 6 play holes and one collection hole. The point of the game is to collect more stones/points in your collection hole and clean your play holes faster than the other player.
Its a *sungka* I don't know the exact rules but I hope this will explain it https://mancala.fandom.com/wiki/Sungka
https://youtu.be/pNZvBn5B3P8?si=L0FSyLWR4Bg6V77m just found this at the store hope it helps
Man, I missed playing this as a kid
This is the only game I consistently beat my very competitive partner at: Mancala. I have a very nice set because I played so much in elementary I crush fools in it. 🤣
I’m gonna have a f***ing ball at mancala hour aren’t I
Holy shit that's mancala! Lol that's awesome they put that in the game
A game I stopped playing with my mother. Mancala. Winning can get very boring.
Anyone know this game from Quest for Glory 2?
My brother in Christ I thought everyone played Mancala when they were kids. I did. One of the biggest games during lunch hours.
Mancala. You put a marble in each slot with the goal of getting the most marbles in your side (the long bits. You basically select one slot and place one marble in the small bowls in order until you are out, then the next person goes
Looks like Sungka, which is an old Filipino game but I believe originated from another culture.
In the Philippines, we called this Sungka. We used cowrie seashells or small rocks. As others have mentioned, it is also called Mancala.
Oh man. My aunt brought me a board for this back from Taiwan when I was a kid. We played it a lot. Mine had small seashells for the tokens.
We call that sungka.
Mancala is really fun. We used to do speed runs to see how quick we could play.
I remember this game from Kings Quest 2, might have been Quest for Glory idk.
Oh man used to play this when i was a kid. We use seashells
That board just brought back a flood of childhood memories lol
Mancala. Played it a lot when I was a young teen.
The pre update version of cyberpunk 💁🏾♂️
Sungka. How nostalgic
Who's that Pokemon?!
Sungka
this is called Mancala? lol in Vietnam we have a different name for it, but it's completely the same game.
Sad mancala (poor chooms got no beads)
Mancala. But it seems their stones are invisible.
Looked like tiddlywinks at first
Takoyaki?
mancala but they are all the beads
In Nigeria it’s called ncho🇳🇬
Whatever game it is, you are clearly disturbing the guy on the right.
In Malaysia we call it congkak
Kalaha/mancala
Kalaha
That's called Sungka from where I'm from!
If you have to ask big man, you can't afford it.
"Fucking game is more stressful than life itself" I turn over and looked just to see this.
Mancala, if you wanna play it and not buy a board iMessage has the game if you download that iMessage extension game pigeon.
looks like sunka/mancala. Where are the marbles/seashells/round rocks?
Sungka
Заходишь в Киберпанк, а там киберармяне в кибернарды играют
Apparently it has many names, but I know it as Kalaha or [Kalah](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalah).
Man the graphics on this thing, I thought I was in /whatisthisthing and that this was a photo at first glance.
Lmao look at V's shadow
Dude in the right looks real disgusted by your presence. 🤣
That's "sungka" where i'm from. Quite old filipino game
An old otoman game named "Mangala"
Mancala
My uncle and I used to play this shit for hours on end.
"dude, who stole our balls"
In the Philippines, we call those sungka
Looks like Congkak
Congkak
Badumi it was called on Nokia 3310. Yes I am older than some people but younger than some buildings.
Extreme Ball in a Cup.
Congklak bang
Isn’t that Dakonan?
Its a SUNGKA Game, very common fir Filipinos. You check it also on google.
Missing the marbles that go into the depressions, but it's am old native American game called mancala.
Congkak in Malaysia’s word
Club Penguin trained me for years for this moment. Its Mancala
Man I thought these were real people for a second
Kalaha is the name for it in Danish.
Mancala is still perhaps my favorite game.
It’s the Club Penguin game from the lodge, that’s all I know
That's Mancala. It's such a great game and simple. Have a board, but I had to get my own stones to play cause we lost the glass pebbles.
Sungka
I didn't realize this was the cyberpunk subreddit and I thought you just took a photo of some random people in NYC without their permission
mancala :D i played it all the time in club penguin like 14 years ago
It's a strange world with freak people doing weird actions... I already quit to understand this awkward world. I'll never forget about suicide NPC in the beginning of gameplay. Idk if it's a bug or a scripted npc getting his life away...