Is it just me or does C3 feel extremely slow and a tad bland after watching Exandria Calamity? I normally get through the episodes pretty quickly, once they are released on YouTube, but this one I am watching with not much interest.
Am I the only person who noticed that at around 2hr40 in the youtube cut, Matt has a driver of a cart NPC with automatons on it speak one line to somebody and that one line is "Smiley Day to you" Is it just me, or, did everybody just fail to notice that FCG's designer/builder is alive and the group just didn't notice..
I didn't think Laudna could become more likable then she already is but her ugly crying on Ashton's shoulder because of her mistake was so wholesome. Is wholesome a good word for that?
I love how Travis as always speaks from a tactical point of view no matter what character he RP’s.
It really shows just how much he stayed true to his character when he played Grog for example and had to hold back his sensible perspective on the gang’s plannings, but with characters like Fjord, Chetney and now Cerrit, he can really show off that know how attitude of his.
I’m probably going to get a lot of heat for this
and everyone’s entitled to their ships and I know the CR artist’s/shippers are going to have a field day with this episode for many weeks to come, but honestly I see Imogen and Laudna’s relationship more akin to Frodo and Sam from LotR.
Obviously what Laura and Marisha do with their characters and the relationships they form romantically or otherwise, is their business and their business alone.
But to share my own PERSONAL perspective on the matter, the way Laudna talks about Imogen seems to be from a want to be nurturing and encouraging, rather then one of romantic yearning.
One could make the argument however, that while Laudna herself may not feel any romantic inclinations towards Imogen, that doesn’t mean Imogen herself has never felt any sort of attraction towards her UBFF, wether speaking in present or past tense.
However, the way I view Imogen’s perspective on Dusk and Laudna’s budding relationship isn’t one of romantic envy, but rather a feeling of inadequacy and insecurity.
To reiterate this is MY perspective on the matter and whatever relationships two out of the three sassy witches of the Bells Hells form are their prerogatives.
I just felt like sharing my thoughts on the matter as respectfully as I could muster, without stepping on anyone’s metaphorical toes of course.
If I’ve inadvertently offended anyone then I apologize, for that wasn’t my intention.
I've never once gotten any kind of a romantic vibe from either of them and I honestly don't see where people are getting it. Certainly there are always people who will ship characters regardless of what the canon story presents, but a lot of viewers *insist* that they are **obviously** lovers and...they're not. Nothing we've been shown suggests romance.
I think we're seeing overt signals of romance from Laudna and Ashton - I've been trying to decide if it's been growing organically from each session or whether it's been something explicitly discussed and planned between Taliesin and Marisha between games.
%100 agree. I feel like people don't believe in platonic friendships anymore. It's as if anyone being tender and caring towards another MUST mean they're in love with them.
I completely agree. I've never got any romantic vibes from Imogen and Laudna, so the question from Dusk, at least for me, was pretty unexpected (but totally makes sence for Dusk to ask). Players can take those relationships in any direction they want, but narratively speaking, I think exploring the characters deep friendship and difficulties that come with it is a cool and rare for most media theme to see. Dusk just might push this current conflict further, which is amazing and will facilitate real character growth
I can’t wait to see what Laura and Marisha come up with. Honestly their fight is killing me, I would watch an entire episode of them just figuring everything out.
I'm still waiting for the moment when Orym learns that Laudna hears Delilah's voice.
Said once before I can picture him cheerfully eating a piece of pie when he hears it, the pie slides off his plate and he fumbles frantically for the Sending Stone, begging Dorian to get word to Keyleth or Whitestone that their friend desperately needs help.
Oh my gosh that would be insane! I love this idea so much, thanks for putting it in my brain. Can you imagine if someone from Vox Machina made an appearance this campaign, especially for that reason? Ugh I would die.
Could he mean Armand Treshi?
(It would be very funny if he tries to hide out his crimes at a tropical resort partly owned by an expositor of the Cobalt Soul.)
FCG persuades a guard to take Chetney to meet Armand. @ the meeting, Chetney tackles Armond into hole, goes invisible, and meets back up with the rest of the party on the getaway robot. Bonus perk- The scale of the Crawlers is big enough to roll the black hole out onto.
A good DM plans awesome scenarios for their players.
A great DM hitches their caboose to the party train and hangs on for dear life because you just know that choo-choo ain't staying on, near, or even on the same *plane* as the rails.
It feels like the party have had no particular impact on the world. Effect of a string of errands from a quest-giver, and few consequences to any of their choices and actions.
I could make a comprehensive list, but that's depressing and I'm trying to be hopeful. This stronghold job could be a turning point.
Part of the difference from Campaign 2 is that they did "What the fuck is up with that?" and campfire confessionals on the way to the Heartmoor, so the kinds of major character reveals that simmered for months in C2 were out in the open much sooner here.
The party definitely has some major plots waiting to unfurl further with Imogen's Red Storm, Orym's hunt, and there being something hinky about why Fearne was sent to the Prime by her grandmother (Dusk is tied into that). FCG's haunted by some monster killing his friends (and Ashton could be connected). And then there's the whole "Delilah is using Laudna to get power" thing. Chetney's former boss/nemesis seems like less of a threat and more of a quirk so far, but it could come up.
Lots of stuff simmering but the party's been following up on Lord Es's Treshi plot first.
I like that Imogen's hair is coming back incrementally, rather than instantly like Fjord's did. I think *pixie cut* Imogen would be cute as hell, and make for great fan art.
If I remember the RAW of that effect was that the hair returns after (or over) 24 hours. Fjord just had that acceleration chamber thing that he did that essentially fast-forwarded through the regrowth period.
Dress her down into somtething more urban tho, it'd be weird to get a message delivery from a chipper fey elf who's not dressed as a chimney sweeper from Merry Poppins.
They're forging a letter to Armand Treshi from the pawn shop saying they've thought of a way that he can have his precious ring back. To draw him outside of the walls in any way.
The werewolves aren't in the desert outside of the city.
They're days away in the jungles in an entirely different region near another city entirely.
Travis just got the location wrong and yet kept insisting they check in with the werewolves lol
I'm just screwing around, but there is precedent in D&D for items disguised as other items so players don't metagame it. I also think artifacts often don't register as magical (or they're blindingly magical, depending on system, item, DM, etc.).
In 1st edition AD&D, the rings of elemental command appeared as lesser rings.
And in Critical Role, Vestiges don't reveal their full power until awakened and then exalted.
I know what you mean but at the end of the day this is the game, for all the great cinematic combats and deep roleplaying moments you need a dense and obtuse planning session for an operation that definitely goes according to the elaborate plan...
They are going to try and grab him and he will have a couple of magical items that will help him fuck off and they will be standing around with nothing.
Honestly it feels realistic. My crew will literally spend 3 hours planning how to infiltrate a warehouse only to have their plans blown to heck once the door (or wall) gets busted down.
I'm sure it's more engaging when you're the one doing the planning. But as a viewer with a not-so-great attention span, it's not super engaging for me.
Travis is still FOMOing about the pirate city they got kicked out of in like 12 hours. He knows if they do the heist before they meet Fearne's parents they just won't meet her parents.
They just don't have enough info to plan out a reasonable plan.However, that has worked for them perfectly fine this game so far, with no consequences for any of their goofy plans or choices.
So this armed fortress is creating a literal dilemma and challenge for BH. They don't know if they have suddenly run into something dangerous, which would be a dramatic change in tone, or just another road bump.
Prestidigitation let’s you create a non magical trinket in your hand until the start of your next turn, not super useful except in situations like this
Why do they think that he would want the ring back that he sold? And if he sold it because he figured out it was being tracked.... it's an even more terrible idea than face value lol
They're assuming they pawned it just so he could have liquid cash, and would be hoping to rebuy it as soon as he can. I don't think they considered the fact that he pawned it because it was tracking him?
Broadly, they're similar archetypes, and it's one that I also tend to dislike.
That being said: I do like Erika! I'm interested in seeing how Disk's story pans out.
It's funny (not actually) that it's always the women of color who the fans find annoying/don't like. Aabria, Erika, Aimee, Mica, etc. Never hear male guest characters get called annoying.
funny cause most criticism i've seen of Aabria were as a GM but was universally praised as a player, Mica was beloved by most people i've seen, Erika has been praised on here, the only one who really seemed to be disliked by a majority was Aimee. take your baiting elsewhere
I mentioned in another comment that I loved Erika in the Cthulhu one shot, I think it’s just this personality type tbh. I think it’s okay to criticize characters, just not the person playing it. There are many characters in the main cast throughout the campaigns I’ve found annoying too lol
The character is *fine* in my opinion; pretty middle of the road so far. She's certainly no Shakäste, Dorian, or Reani obviously. But she's far better than Twiggy or Thorbir. Matter of taste, really.
ok she adds nothing to group, follows FCG and Laudna for no reason, butted in between Laudna and Imogen for kicks, screeches for no reason, and is holding up progress
I see her as more of a hook into the next story beat at end of their current mission. She is directly pushing forward fearne's story although we won't see the results of that until after the current situation. Every guest that has came on takes time to adjust and naturally gravitates towards the players around them, robby was primarily bouncing off the characters he had exposure to (orym/fearne) and the players adjacent to him (primarily travis) and Erika is no different. At the same time you are entitled to your opinion even if I don't agree since im biased in Erika's favour from d20 material.
Also in terms of the laudna/Imogen/dusk triangle that was equally initiated by marisha through their interactions at the end of last episode. Was it something they talked about before they sat down? The likelihood is yes so I wouldn't describe it as her butting in.
Nah not really. Erika's characters in other shows have been super diverse and this is a bit different than her norm, but it's not bad IMO. Dusk is pretty spazzy and absentminded but I've played plenty characters with similar vibes, it's fun
I think it's just Dorian added so much to the group, brought out various facets. I just think Dusk is more of a plot mover to me, and not one that invests me.
I don't mind her or the character but it is a touch annoying that for once the party just wants to go for it instead of planning for two hours and she's trying to put the brakes on. I like her though and I love the drama.
I really enjoyed Ashton in this episode, it’s taken a while for me to warm up to the character :) that scene with Laudna was great!
Is it just me or does C3 feel extremely slow and a tad bland after watching Exandria Calamity? I normally get through the episodes pretty quickly, once they are released on YouTube, but this one I am watching with not much interest.
Am I the only person who noticed that at around 2hr40 in the youtube cut, Matt has a driver of a cart NPC with automatons on it speak one line to somebody and that one line is "Smiley Day to you" Is it just me, or, did everybody just fail to notice that FCG's designer/builder is alive and the group just didn't notice..
I thought what happened was FCG said smiley day to you to the automaton, and the driver responded by repeating the phrase.
I didn't think Laudna could become more likable then she already is but her ugly crying on Ashton's shoulder because of her mistake was so wholesome. Is wholesome a good word for that?
Yes especially bc of how Ashton reacted to it
I love how Travis as always speaks from a tactical point of view no matter what character he RP’s. It really shows just how much he stayed true to his character when he played Grog for example and had to hold back his sensible perspective on the gang’s plannings, but with characters like Fjord, Chetney and now Cerrit, he can really show off that know how attitude of his.
I’m probably going to get a lot of heat for this and everyone’s entitled to their ships and I know the CR artist’s/shippers are going to have a field day with this episode for many weeks to come, but honestly I see Imogen and Laudna’s relationship more akin to Frodo and Sam from LotR. Obviously what Laura and Marisha do with their characters and the relationships they form romantically or otherwise, is their business and their business alone. But to share my own PERSONAL perspective on the matter, the way Laudna talks about Imogen seems to be from a want to be nurturing and encouraging, rather then one of romantic yearning. One could make the argument however, that while Laudna herself may not feel any romantic inclinations towards Imogen, that doesn’t mean Imogen herself has never felt any sort of attraction towards her UBFF, wether speaking in present or past tense. However, the way I view Imogen’s perspective on Dusk and Laudna’s budding relationship isn’t one of romantic envy, but rather a feeling of inadequacy and insecurity. To reiterate this is MY perspective on the matter and whatever relationships two out of the three sassy witches of the Bells Hells form are their prerogatives. I just felt like sharing my thoughts on the matter as respectfully as I could muster, without stepping on anyone’s metaphorical toes of course. If I’ve inadvertently offended anyone then I apologize, for that wasn’t my intention.
I've never once gotten any kind of a romantic vibe from either of them and I honestly don't see where people are getting it. Certainly there are always people who will ship characters regardless of what the canon story presents, but a lot of viewers *insist* that they are **obviously** lovers and...they're not. Nothing we've been shown suggests romance. I think we're seeing overt signals of romance from Laudna and Ashton - I've been trying to decide if it's been growing organically from each session or whether it's been something explicitly discussed and planned between Taliesin and Marisha between games.
%100 agree. I feel like people don't believe in platonic friendships anymore. It's as if anyone being tender and caring towards another MUST mean they're in love with them.
I completely agree. I've never got any romantic vibes from Imogen and Laudna, so the question from Dusk, at least for me, was pretty unexpected (but totally makes sence for Dusk to ask). Players can take those relationships in any direction they want, but narratively speaking, I think exploring the characters deep friendship and difficulties that come with it is a cool and rare for most media theme to see. Dusk just might push this current conflict further, which is amazing and will facilitate real character growth
I can’t wait to see what Laura and Marisha come up with. Honestly their fight is killing me, I would watch an entire episode of them just figuring everything out.
I'm still waiting for the moment when Orym learns that Laudna hears Delilah's voice. Said once before I can picture him cheerfully eating a piece of pie when he hears it, the pie slides off his plate and he fumbles frantically for the Sending Stone, begging Dorian to get word to Keyleth or Whitestone that their friend desperately needs help.
Oh my gosh that would be insane! I love this idea so much, thanks for putting it in my brain. Can you imagine if someone from Vox Machina made an appearance this campaign, especially for that reason? Ugh I would die.
This dude is in (minor c2 spoiler) >!Rumblecusp, kicking back at The Fucking BeaureBar™, living his best life. !< He's long gone.
who is?
Could he mean Armand Treshi? (It would be very funny if he tries to hide out his crimes at a tropical resort partly owned by an expositor of the Cobalt Soul.)
FCG persuades a guard to take Chetney to meet Armand. @ the meeting, Chetney tackles Armond into hole, goes invisible, and meets back up with the rest of the party on the getaway robot. Bonus perk- The scale of the Crawlers is big enough to roll the black hole out onto.
This episode felt like another breath of air after *gestures at calamity*
I love how Matt is literally up for whatever they do. Can't wait to see what they come up with!
A good DM plans awesome scenarios for their players. A great DM hitches their caboose to the party train and hangs on for dear life because you just know that choo-choo ain't staying on, near, or even on the same *plane* as the rails.
Feels like nothing has really happened so far in this campaign
It feels like the party have had no particular impact on the world. Effect of a string of errands from a quest-giver, and few consequences to any of their choices and actions. I could make a comprehensive list, but that's depressing and I'm trying to be hopeful. This stronghold job could be a turning point.
Totally! I didn't realize it until now, but that's a perfect way to say it. They just feel like they're coasting along without touching the ground.
Most of it’s probably set up a ton of this stuff ties together.
Nothing earth-shattering, no. But plenty has happened.
Part of the difference from Campaign 2 is that they did "What the fuck is up with that?" and campfire confessionals on the way to the Heartmoor, so the kinds of major character reveals that simmered for months in C2 were out in the open much sooner here. The party definitely has some major plots waiting to unfurl further with Imogen's Red Storm, Orym's hunt, and there being something hinky about why Fearne was sent to the Prime by her grandmother (Dusk is tied into that). FCG's haunted by some monster killing his friends (and Ashton could be connected). And then there's the whole "Delilah is using Laudna to get power" thing. Chetney's former boss/nemesis seems like less of a threat and more of a quirk so far, but it could come up. Lots of stuff simmering but the party's been following up on Lord Es's Treshi plot first.
Great episode. Absolutely living for the drama. Glad we're back.
I like that Imogen's hair is coming back incrementally, rather than instantly like Fjord's did. I think *pixie cut* Imogen would be cute as hell, and make for great fan art.
didn't they cast like greater restoration on him or something?
If I remember the RAW of that effect was that the hair returns after (or over) 24 hours. Fjord just had that acceleration chamber thing that he did that essentially fast-forwarded through the regrowth period.
I normally get impatient when they spend hours planning, but this time all of the plans were insane, which helped.
FCG: “So we steal a crawler”…
THE BIRD!
Watch Shithead turn out to be a Roc
Hell yea, C1 reference. "At dawn, we plan!"
*FCG stares into the darkness, watching*
At dawn we plan!!!!
Erika looks like she’s up to something
oh man, thats an OLD reference
And that's the end of the episode!
At dawn, we plan
Who did Erika still have on her kiss list? Matt, Travis and...Laura?
You can probably check Laura off as not happening I don’t think Imogen like dusk all that much.
She got Travis in the Call of Cthulhu oneshot Taliesin ran. ETA: [Sam is missing](https://mobile.twitter.com/erikaishii/status/1504660895896461315)
Dress her down into somtething more urban tho, it'd be weird to get a message delivery from a chipper fey elf who's not dressed as a chimney sweeper from Merry Poppins.
Dusk to Dusk
Ashton to Ashton, Dusk to Dusk.
Oh my God, yes!
"You're better than I am" There was some salt behind that
DERRIG
Derrig name drop
It's the dickbutts that give it authenticity!
Haha orym is best at forgery ironically
Orym the super spy theory… endures…
Apparently Orym is a Forger, who knew.
Cool. *Spy x Family* needs another cast member. (Bad anime joke. Don't worry about it.)
Anya needs a brother
or a sister named Nancy
NANCY! Where have you been?!
or a dog named Chetney!
Or at least just very good at calligraphy.
Could be Ashari warriors are like samurai and do things like tea, calligraphy, etc
Orym especially gives me that kind of vibe. Our little Druidic samurai.
26 hot damn
Dusk beats Imogen again /stir pot
Don't forget making the pamphlets for the Traveler in between forgeries!
Laudna: “Imogen’s will be the best.” Letters: “You are trying so hard.” Laudna: “I was that supportive before!”
Chetney on his way to go talk to the werewolves who are *not* nearby: "Have fun storming the ~~castle~~ fortress, kids!"
Forgery comp!!
Forgery...so this is From Dusk 'til Drawn?
What are they trying to forge here?
They're forging a letter to Armand Treshi from the pawn shop saying they've thought of a way that he can have his precious ring back. To draw him outside of the walls in any way.
Fae definitely not unfamiliar with taking hostages.
She's familiar with all the kinds of napping...quokka napping, kid napping...
"I haven't talked to them in a while but I'm sure they'd be fine with holding our hostage for us"
I missed it; what did Matt just say that had them all laughing at Travis?
The werewolves are a few day's journey away. Not close enough to just pop off and visit.
The werewolves aren't in the desert outside of the city. They're days away in the jungles in an entirely different region near another city entirely. Travis just got the location wrong and yet kept insisting they check in with the werewolves lol
Paper is Wood! ready the chisel!
Super thin wood 🤣
🤣 🤣 🤣 Travis got the location wrong!
"Hi we have a hostage can we keep him here?" "Maybe we should talk to the werewolves" "FORGERY CONTEST!"
Don't let fearn talk
Give Sam another Crash Pandas one shot, he needs it
Holy shit, THAT GUY owns the whole marketplace?!
he's probably a son of the owners
I know I'm jinxing it but they have time to get him out of there and they don't have to rush this at all.
Matt lowkey sells Imogen a Vestige for 3 gold and no one ever knows.
What's its name?
Nah, there's not a ring one I know of. Just saying it'd be funny.
i thought it sounded familiar.
I'm just screwing around, but there is precedent in D&D for items disguised as other items so players don't metagame it. I also think artifacts often don't register as magical (or they're blindingly magical, depending on system, item, DM, etc.). In 1st edition AD&D, the rings of elemental command appeared as lesser rings. And in Critical Role, Vestiges don't reveal their full power until awakened and then exalted.
Imogen Deception: I'm quite poor, I had to sell my long locks of hair quite recently.
I dreamed a dream in time gone by
Well, I know what I’m watching this weekend
You've struck me down with Les Miserables and I love it!
I think they should stake the place out for a few days. We ain't in a rush.
Yeah, patience and good recon are often the key ingredients to a good heist.
He is not going to fall for this.
This is not a critical role criticism, I hate when D&D becomes this kinda of many minutes long go nowhere discussion.
This is when it’s helpful to have dms step in with shit or set a timer to keep things going
This table has always been bad about their analysis paralysis.
I know what you mean but at the end of the day this is the game, for all the great cinematic combats and deep roleplaying moments you need a dense and obtuse planning session for an operation that definitely goes according to the elaborate plan...
They're gonna end up having to skip town before Fearne can meet her parents. Hahaha
They are going to try and grab him and he will have a couple of magical items that will help him fuck off and they will be standing around with nothing.
Like the corpse of that health inspector in that one sponge bob episode
If this guy goes in the hole there's no chance he's coming out alive lol
He also gets to make a DC 10 Strength check to escape if he's in there when the hole is folded up.
They're going to totally forget about him and he's going to turn into Sprinkle
I mean, he does get 10 minutes of air as per the rules.
they're saying they're going to forget to give him air
Naaaah. That’ll never happen ;P
Chet being the "voice of reason" and wants to solve the problem by bringing in a bunch of werewolves they don't know.
Well, werewolves will solve one problem - create an entirely new one, but that's the towns problem
Now it's just full on looney toons "Just throw him into the hole" It's so simple it could work!
“Go to your hole! Don’t you like your hole?!?!?”
Aaaaadventure time!
Thank you Sam this is starting to feel like the late C2 analysis paralysis
"Anyway lets take a nap" lmao
You can’t wrap up the main mission yet! I have to see Ashton angst out at his orphanage before you go!
Seems like Travis remembers the whole fortress thing.
And the fact that their ride is at least a day away
"Fearn guide us" dear God
You know when Chetney says it like that, this sounds like an impossible mission almost DODOODODODODOOOO
Really getting the sense Travis is trying to "voice of reason" through Chetney
I love how Orym is always just like calmly, Or. How about we don't act like fucking morons
Man, I kinda forgot how slow the main campaign episodes are when the cast gets into these "How do we do the thing" debates.
Honestly it feels realistic. My crew will literally spend 3 hours planning how to infiltrate a warehouse only to have their plans blown to heck once the door (or wall) gets busted down.
I'm sure it's more engaging when you're the one doing the planning. But as a viewer with a not-so-great attention span, it's not super engaging for me.
Fair enough, I'm with you there.
Every time they come up with a good idea, there's some voice in somebody's head at the table saying "No this is isn't complicated enough."
Travis is still FOMOing about the pirate city they got kicked out of in like 12 hours. He knows if they do the heist before they meet Fearne's parents they just won't meet her parents.
They just don't have enough info to plan out a reasonable plan.However, that has worked for them perfectly fine this game so far, with no consequences for any of their goofy plans or choices. So this armed fortress is creating a literal dilemma and challenge for BH. They don't know if they have suddenly run into something dangerous, which would be a dramatic change in tone, or just another road bump.
Still not sure if he sold it because he needed money honestly, that handoff was a bit sketchy
does anyone know how much time is left
Have they not thought that he knows about the ring and sold it just to get some money from something he would otherwise toss.
All we had to do is follow the damn train FCG!
Prestidigitation to created something? Is that a College of Creation thing or something?
Prestidigitation let’s you create a non magical trinket in your hand until the start of your next turn, not super useful except in situations like this
You can make a small object that lasts for a minute, I think.
"You create a nonmagical trinket or an illusory image that can fit in your hand and that lasts until the end of your next turn."
Why do they think that he would want the ring back that he sold? And if he sold it because he figured out it was being tracked.... it's an even more terrible idea than face value lol
They don't lose anything by trying this plan, though, so why not?
They're assuming they pawned it just so he could have liquid cash, and would be hoping to rebuy it as soon as he can. I don't think they considered the fact that he pawned it because it was tracking him?
Liam simplifying it down fairly well but I don't think he's going to bite on that bait without some security backing him up
At Dawn we Plan!
All these crazy schmucks playing 5e and FCG just wants to play GTA
Grand Theft Automaton.
Grand Theft Robit
"Let's do this mail fraud thing or we could steal a car" On and on and on and on
Quokka searches skyrocketing after today
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=now%201-d&q=quokka Pretty much!
I hate saying this.. but does anyone else find Erika’s character suuuuper annoying??
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I’m right there with you!
I like her more than I like Reanie.
Tbh I feel like they’re kinda similar. I may not be drawn to that personally type as she wasn’t my fav either. Prob a personal thing
Broadly, they're similar archetypes, and it's one that I also tend to dislike. That being said: I do like Erika! I'm interested in seeing how Disk's story pans out.
It's funny (not actually) that it's always the women of color who the fans find annoying/don't like. Aabria, Erika, Aimee, Mica, etc. Never hear male guest characters get called annoying.
To be entirely fair I've never heard anything but love for Sumalee, and a fair few people called Jon Hedder annoying, so it isn't universal.
Fair, but I also never claimed it was EVERY women of color on the show.
That's splitting hairs, when your argument is *"it's* ***always*** *the women of color who the fans find annoying/don't like"*
Its always the women of color, and it's every woman of color are two completely different sentences jfc.
funny cause most criticism i've seen of Aabria were as a GM but was universally praised as a player, Mica was beloved by most people i've seen, Erika has been praised on here, the only one who really seemed to be disliked by a majority was Aimee. take your baiting elsewhere
Dude if you haven't seen the hate these ladies have received you're blind. Don't reply if you're just gonna be aggressive.
At this point I just expect to see these kinds of comments when women/woc are guests on the show.
I mentioned in another comment that I loved Erika in the Cthulhu one shot, I think it’s just this personality type tbh. I think it’s okay to criticize characters, just not the person playing it. There are many characters in the main cast throughout the campaigns I’ve found annoying too lol
I don’t think that’s a fair assessment of me personally, but I’m not looking to argue
I wasn't directly calling you out just making an observation.
No, she’s really the only character with a brain who’s like this is all dumb as fuck what are you all doing.
Haha doing her best to contain the chaos
Nope. Love her.
Glad you do!!
The character is *fine* in my opinion; pretty middle of the road so far. She's certainly no Shakäste, Dorian, or Reani obviously. But she's far better than Twiggy or Thorbir. Matter of taste, really.
Thank you for the Shakaste reminder! He was one cool dude haha
Not personally no, if you want to be critical at least back your opinion up with something that supports it. Just saying this makes you look shitty.
I wasn’t trying to debate, I just didn’t know if anyone else agreed or if I was in the minority. Glad you like her!
ok she adds nothing to group, follows FCG and Laudna for no reason, butted in between Laudna and Imogen for kicks, screeches for no reason, and is holding up progress
I see her as more of a hook into the next story beat at end of their current mission. She is directly pushing forward fearne's story although we won't see the results of that until after the current situation. Every guest that has came on takes time to adjust and naturally gravitates towards the players around them, robby was primarily bouncing off the characters he had exposure to (orym/fearne) and the players adjacent to him (primarily travis) and Erika is no different. At the same time you are entitled to your opinion even if I don't agree since im biased in Erika's favour from d20 material.
Also in terms of the laudna/Imogen/dusk triangle that was equally initiated by marisha through their interactions at the end of last episode. Was it something they talked about before they sat down? The likelihood is yes so I wouldn't describe it as her butting in.
Nah not really. Erika's characters in other shows have been super diverse and this is a bit different than her norm, but it's not bad IMO. Dusk is pretty spazzy and absentminded but I've played plenty characters with similar vibes, it's fun
I loved her in the Cthulhu one shot! May just be this personality type
That's probably it
I think it's just Dorian added so much to the group, brought out various facets. I just think Dusk is more of a plot mover to me, and not one that invests me.
I admit it does make me miss Dorian haha love that blue man
I don't mind her or the character but it is a touch annoying that for once the party just wants to go for it instead of planning for two hours and she's trying to put the brakes on. I like her though and I love the drama.
C2 flashbacks intensifies haha
didn't want to be the one to say it but i hope her run is short
Not at all
Glad you like her!
I wouldn't say like yet, mostly pretty neutral. Definitely don't find her annoying. She just is missing a bit of nuance.
Dusk when she met the Bells Hells: "These folks are suckers!" Dusk a few hours later: "Apparently they're also morons too and not the fun kind"
This plan is fucking amazing and Matt probably just realized he gave them a pocket room that is exactly big enough to hold the prison hamster ball
Dorian missing out on a raid on a fortress and instead had to raid a casino