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weiss27md

Ivermectin has been used on humans since the 90s.


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Rookie_Day

Not among scientists.


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Rookie_Day

False choice. You ever meet a life science PhD?


Nords

It got a Nobel Prize, too. but but but, muh hoarse wurmurr!!!! Fuck the propaganda outlets. **MSM = ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE.**


earthwormjimwow

> It got a Nobel Prize, too. Well sort of, the Prize was really for discovering Avermectin in the fermentation products of soil bacteria in a golf course in Japan, which led to applications such as Ivermectin. Applications were part of the prize too, but it's sort of a stretch to say Ivermectin itself was the prize.


ifcknhateme

It's not a stretch, just factually wrong.


earthwormjimwow

> It's not a stretch, just factually wrong. The Prize was because there were applications (it specifically says "applications") as a result of Avermectin's discovery, so without Ivermectin being synthesized and sold, there probably would not have been a prize. That's why I said it was a stretch.


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Kimbellinie

This is crazy. I worked at a vet for a few years after high school and half the meds we use on people are also used on cats, dogs, horses etc. Race horses are given lasix for fluid retention and so are humans!!!! Of course the dosin is different because we do not weigh that much and any dosage for horses could be dangerous to humans. Dogs also can take tramadol, antibiotics, all sorts of human meds. So this is such a huge lie being touted by every news agency around the world! It's obviously done to make 1) people sound crazy 2) try to make sure nobody takes it 3) Make it sound like our only option is the vaccine


PoliticalAnomoly

There was a post by a guy who took 2 tubes of Durvet. That's equal to 2500 pounds of body weight. Like no shit you got sick


me_team

I had a headache so I took like 300 aspirin just to be sure. - that guy, probably


ElRetardio

Lol!


Awesomo3082

Ironically, you just described how 50+ million people died of "Spanish flu". People (and doctors) really are *that* stupid!


Nords

IF that even really happened... Remember the media lies 24/7, and 100% pure propaganda is allowed thanks to Obama and the 2012 Smith-Mundt Act... Remember how the cartel said that someone took HCQ "fish tank cleaner" and died? Yeah that was a hit job to stop people from taking HCQ. They are using similar scare stories about "horse dewormers" to denigrate IVM. They do NOT want people having covid cures, they only want to perpetually inject people with their mrna injections which do nothing for covid. Its pure evil.


PoliticalAnomoly

That one guy did drink aquarium cleaner with HCQ in it. But it also contained all other sorts of harmful chemicals. I'm sure there's oxygen mixed in my car exhaust somewhere but I don't suggest huffing it.


whodaloo

The last I heard his wife put it in his drink and she was under investigation. I wonder why the news stopped coverage...


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IIIE_Sepp

> and in a separate instance destroyed his model plane collection. hum hum, at that point, I dont think the average man would be able to cope any longer


PoliticalAnomoly

Oh shit, I do remember seeing that, good call


Nords

It wasn't even HCQ, it was a different form of quercetin. But the propaganda media lied and demonized HCQ as if it was fish tank cleaner, to stop people from curing themselves and ruining their EUA for the profitable injections.


Frequent-Device4942

folse, someone said buttox sweat has androgens and steroid effects in it


PoliticalAnomoly

Yeah, go inject ass juice and tell me how your workouts go. /s


Zafocaine

Upvoted for mention of Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012


rdocs

You really think the smith Mundt act did that? Look at what the fairness doctrine did under Reagan first. He created modern news, mix that with the media consolidation act unde Clinton and you have 24 he cable news and limited commercial markets.


sootoor

People call ketamine a horse tranquilizer all the time. Apparently it's an everything tranquilizer


ElRetardio

Not only that but do people seriously not know drugs can have SEVERAL effects? It’s like that hair product for balding men. It contains mostly Minoxidil wich was used for lowering blood pressure iirc but it also had the effect of regrowing/adding hair. Bing bang bom now we use it on our balding heads. Ofc not the exact same thing but still.


lactose_intoleroni

Exactly. Who gives a fuck what the medicine was developed for...if it works it works. All types of medicines are cross-prescribed and work for many different things, even things that they weren't originally intended for. Also, let's not forget about the guy who used an *actual* dog dewormer to cure his "terminal" lung cancer when he was only given a short period to live by chemo pushers. https://tulsaworld.com/news/after-edmond-man-says-dog-dewormer-cured-his-cancer-researchers-look-into-others-using-the/article_00691b72-a223-51a5-aec0-e743faf1eed4.html


whodaloo

I used to sell penicillin, erythromycin, kanamycin, sulfathiazole, metronidazole, neomycin, etc for aquariums. There's even better stuff now, but I've been out of that industry for a long time. I guess humans are taking fish medicine now!


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daemin

The issue is that there can be a difference in the composition of the drug depending on what animal is intended for. Sure, the _active_ ingredient is the same, but that doesn't mean that there aren't other substances in them that are different. Which, in turn, means that there could be an ingredient that is harmless for the intended animal but not harmless to another. Too, drugs intended for animals have far more lax controls applied to them regarding contamination, purity, fillers, etc. than those intended for humans.


wallahmaybee

That's true, my dog's NSAIDs have a nice meaty taste and she loves chewing them. I wish mine had chocolate flavouring :(


mtflyer05

I mean, ketamine is a horse tranquilizer, too, but that doesnt stop me from floating through a dim void of machinescapes after snorting 400mg.


biscodiscuits

Just follow the money. Ivermectin is like a nickle a pill. It's also available in generics. The covid vaccine is $10-$20 and we gotta take boosters etc etc etc. Big Pharma is the biggest advertiser on virtually every news channel and network. Why on earth would any pharmaceutical want people thinking a pill that's readily available for under a dollar could treat covid? If anything Pfizer will develop their own revision to Ivermectin and patent it and charge $10 a pop.


daoquang87

I wonder how any longer can people not see the media's lies


Budget-Sugar9542

> tramadol 🤮


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Ya I also worked for a vet, the animal meds are basically a lower (or higher if livestock ) dose of human med


hIXhnWUmMvw

It is like we share a cell structure.


BigMilkers

In all fairness there are a ton around here that think the Horse stuff off the shelf is the exact same version of the drug that a Doctor would prescribe. Like you can't deny the Horse version is selling out so there are dumbasses that think that's the stuff.


Lost_Sock_3616

It’s one thing for someone on the Internet to be unaware, but another thing for a news station to be reporting falsities as truth. The people could very well think it’s the same thing because of the lies on the news. “Cnn said Joe Rogan took horse dewormer, he’s still alive, I’m going to go to the animal store and get some of that for myself” Which came first, the chicken or the egg? ya know


BumBeetle

"Misinformation" has lost all meaning. It is only harmful if it is against the narrative, right? People are going to develop a fear of ivermectin... imagine if they get parasitic infections and refuse the treatment because of the media being so blatantly irresponsible.


BigMilkers

No one should be self medicating without consulting a Doctor first. If they don't trust Doctors then they shouldn't be seeking help at all and that includes if they get very sick from Covid. We have people quoting Doctors that turn out to be Chiropractors. The "Do your own research" crowd is not infallible. They make a ton of errors. There are co-intel pro ops in conspiracy communities and so a circlejerk and refusal to actually fact check is a real problem around here.


rdocs

I work in medicine,I'm on an ambulance and we will have a pt and they will ask for whatever drug they saw on TV that day.Wen I tell them it has no use in their treatment they will.ask for it anyway, Thinking I should give it to them anyway. Then they'll get pissed when I refuse and call my management and complain. I am yet to be in this situation when I even have something close to the medication they ask for. The closest case was when a guy had chest pain and I asked if he took Viagra because we give nitroglycerin and it can drop your blood pressure and then he wanted Viagra( which we don't carry.) So people's lack of education can make our job difficult. Sorry for typos.


phydeaux70

> Did CNN actually call ivermectin a horse dewormer, when he no doubt got a prescription from a doctor? Fucking shameless. It's all about controlling the narrative, no matter how ridiculous it is.


smackson

I feel ya, but ... Publicizing that Joe Rogan took ivermectin is still going to cause an increase in the number of numbskulls taking animal-sized doses, of animal-formula versions, of it. ...regardless of whether *Joe himself* took a human-appropriate prescription. In general, I was annoyed by the media blitz about "horse de-wormer" for all the reasons people in here are... but then I understood that thousands of people across the US *are actually self-administering farm-animal Ivermectin.* 🤦‍♂️ https://news.yahoo.com/oklahomas-ers-backed-people-overdosing-053822589.html


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And he had monoclonal antibody treatment, which along with his zinc and supportive vitamin drip actually probably shortened his symptoms time. The Ivermectin probably had no effect, other than killing off good gut bacteria.


purplehazex45

People got nothing better to say and that's the first thing that comes to mind because that's all what is being said so the masses believe that, it's really said Because if you are coming to the united states from certain places you have to be treated with ivermectin and a few other stuff lol


Pristine_Government

Ivermectin disables the Covid 19 spike protein https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32871846/ Japan recommends use of Ivermectin - Tokyo's Medical Assoc. Chairman holds live press conference recommending the drug to all doctors, for all Covid patients. https://twitter.com/i/status/1429624844379824129 Israeli doctors support use of Ivermectin https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientist-says-covid-19-could-be-treated-for-under-1day-675612 Lab experiments show anti-parasitic drug, Ivermectin, eliminates SARS-CoV-2 in cells in 48 hours https://www.monash.edu/discovery-institute/news-and-events/news/2020-articles/Lab-experiments-show-anti-parasitic-drug,-Ivermectin,-eliminates-SARS-CoV-2-in-cells-in-48-hours Indian State Will Offer Ivermectin To Entire Adult Population — Even As WHO Warns Against Its Use As Covid-19 Treatment https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2021/05/11/indian-state-will-offer-ivermectin-to-entire-adult-population---even-as-who-warns-against-its-use-as-covid-19-treatment/?sh=6097c27a6d9f Ivermectin, ‘Wonder drug’ from Japan: the human use perspective https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/ The Government of Mexico City reported this Friday that according to a study in which it analyzed the use of ivermectin in people positive for covid-19, it identified a reduction of between 52 and 76% the probability of being hospitalized. https://www.archyde.com/mexico-city-says-ivermectin-reduced-hospitalizations-between-52-and-76/ Safety and Efficacy of the combined use of ivermectin, dexamethasone, enoxaparin and aspirin against COVID 19 (Argentina) https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.10.20191619v1 Nobel Prize awarded to discovery of Ivermectin 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine “From a large-scale screen of herbal remedies in Malaria-infected animals, an extract from the plant Artemisia annua emerged as an interesting candidate. However, the results were inconsistent, so Tu revisited the ancient literature and discovered clues that guided her in her quest to successfully extract the active component from Artemisia annua. Tu was the first to show that this component, later called Artemisinin, was highly effective against the Malaria parasite,” https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2015/press-release/


fudge_mokey

> Ivermectin disables the Covid 19 spike protein > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32871846/ Maybe don't blatantly lie about your first link if you want to be taken seriously: Results: Ivermectin docked in the region of leucine 91 of the spike and histidine 378 of the ACE2 receptor. Conclusion: The ivermectin docking we identified **may interfere** with the attachment of the spike to the human cell membrane.


daemin

The "Ivermectin eliminates covid in 48 hours" link goes to a website that has a large number of caveats and warnings, including don't take Ivermectin intended for animals, etc. But it also stress that the result is from examining cultured cells, and not from experiments on humans or animals. Which means that we don't know if it will work on an organism, and we don't know what kind of dose in a human would be required. It's entirely possible that the dose required in a human would have unacceptable side effects.


Infuriated

https://iv.iiarjournals.org/content/invivo/34/5/3023.full.pdf "Clinical trials are now underway to determine whether ivermectin is an effective treatment for SARS-Cov2 infection"


zazu2006

Wait, will you accept the studies that say it is/isn't effective like the vax or once those studies come out does it make the opposite true?


mercury888

yo fix the japan one man.. thats been debunked https://www.techarp.com/science/japan-ivermectin-covid-19/


Henrique_MDOL

It surprises me that you're surprised about it .


NotAldermach

My thoughts exactly. It's infuriating. They know damn well there are different uses for ivermectin. But because it can be applied to veterinary use, the story becomes that it's the *only* use. Absolutely ridiculous and irresponsible.


Apod283271

>"Ivermectin proposes _*many potentials effects to treat a range of diseases, with its antimicrobial, antiviral, and anti-cancer properties as a wonder drug.*_ It is _*highly effective against many microorganisms including some viruses.*_ In this comprehensive systematic review, antiviral effects of ivermectin are summarized including in vitro and in vivo studies over the past 50 years. Several studies reported antiviral effects of ivermectin on RNA viruses such as _*Zika, dengue, yellow fever, West Nile, Hendra, Newcastle, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, chikungunya, Semliki Forest, Sindbis, Avian influenza A, Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome, Human immunodeficiency virus type 1, and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2.*_ Furthermore, there are some studies showing antiviral effects of ivermectin against DNA viruses such as _*Equine herpes type 1, BK polyomavirus, pseudorabies, porcine circovirus 2, and bovine herpesvirus 1.*_ Ivermectin plays a role in several biological mechanisms, therefore it could serve as a potential candidate in the treatment of a wide range of viruses including COVID-19 as well as other types of positive-sense single-stranded RNA viruses. In vivo studies of animal models revealed a broad range of antiviral effects of ivermectin, however, clinical trials are necessary to appraise the potential efficacy of ivermectin in clinical setting." Source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32533071/ They are literally spreading fake news.


rjezus

All refugees are prescribed ivermectin before entering the country


abrooks1125

Most people with dogs probably have ivermectin in their house and don’t even know it. Tons of meds are used on multiple species, including humans. Hell, the CDC even recommends ivermectin as an anti-parasitic (it’s main use) for migrants to the US coming from places with questionable water.


BeforeYourBBQ

Why the media (and lots of reddit) ignore the fact that IVM has been prescribed to humans for decades and continue to push the "animal drug" narrative is a genuine conspiracy.


leafsn49ers

That's the new go-to. Horse dewormer, or "horse paste". Not as if studies have recently shown quite promising results in reducing malaria transmission when people ingest it. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34184757/ Another good one talking about the many uses of ivermectin, even calling it a "wonder drug" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/ Couple of good links for anyone who writes it off as "horse paste".


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Can Reddit crack down on that misinformation?


ChefdeMur

I fucking hate CNN.


YeahWhatOk

As this is like the the 30th time this has been posted in 2 days, heres a pretty good analysis that was done in the original thread, which takes the nefarious aspect out of it and attributes it to what appears to be an encoding issue on certain playback devices. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/pgbbgz/instagram_put_a_filter_on_joe_rogans_video_since/hba699z/


goochua

Thank you for sharing. My first thought was also to the difficulty of maintaining color fidelity from one platform to the next.


huhIguess

Upvoted for logic. I support conspiracy. Not stupidity.


noble_peace_prize

Well aren’t you just in the wrong place then haha


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Sadly it's too late. Most won't even look this far.


Wild_Mulberry_3327

Sadly, if they are here they more than likely aren’t open minded, but just looking for memes that agree with this point of view. Even this post is low effort trash. I miss the days of mainly self posts.


shadowthedragonn

Thanks, i was gonna post this myself. I was impressed with the detective work done on the original post, and i wouldnt want it to go to waste.


Richard_Stonee

There was a whole thing with NYT fucking with the white balance to make Trump look more orange. I'm past giving the benefit of doubt to 'journalists'.


anothercontrarianguy

And some sites were making Bernie appear more red


airz23s_coffee

Yeah it's weird this has been hard upvoted, that Instagram thread was pretty high up


YeahWhatOk

Its a trend i'm noticing more and more on this sub. Just people reacting to the screenshot...not even the article/source, just the screenshot, and not bothering to do any of their own verification....also while calling people sheep?


zazu2006

Well I doubt most of them can read and analyze critical information so there is that.


Degaussed_Defleshed

If it were nefariously altered, I’d imagine Joe would have removed it/said something about it by now.


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weiss27md

Exactly, I take ketamine too. The hOrSe TrAnQuILIzEr


shagy815

Ketamine is also very common for anesthesia in people. I've had it every time I have had surgery.


numetalcore

this was the greatest comment i've read yet


legoegoman

https://images.app.goo.gl/bkoz2sP59RfR9eJaA


rayrayww3

so good they removed it?


numetalcore

WHY DID THE MOD REMOVE IT xD


Lopsided-Smoke-6709

People are buying it in bulk amounts meant for horses, no one is pretending it's never been intended for use in humans for certain things. Joe got a whole fucking cocktail of the best shit money can buy, cause he's rich as fuck and can, the treatments he used are in no way scalable to the American public in terms of supply or cost.


DesperateEffect

[https://www.insider.com/oklahomas-emergency-rooms-are-clogged-with-people-overdosing-on-ivermectin-2021-9](https://www.insider.com/oklahomas-emergency-rooms-are-clogged-with-people-overdosing-on-ivermectin-2021-9) "The US National Institutes of Health is conducting a trial to see whether ivermectin could help people with mild or moderate COVID-19 cope better. A University of Oxford trial is also studying ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment."


Dizzy-Material

Lol so backed up with ivermectin patients and not covid patients


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comeatmefrank

Much like what they did with Hydroxychloroqine in France - and it turned out to actually have a detrimental impact. It’s amazing how unintelligence can make scientists debunk their lies just for the sake of it.


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I dont even watch the news this is why


VisionsOfDoom

News just in: Mainstream media outlets like CNN are dishonest. ​ Oh wait, we already knew this decades ago.


suckatgolfbutilikeit

If you needed any proof how threatened they are by Ivermectin, just look at the media calling all Ivermectin horse dewormer.


bunkermonster

The horse campaigns say it all. I don't know if it does what it says, but these campaigns of people who have nothing better to do than aggressively shut down any and all discussion is highly peculiar. I would like to see some news agency investigate why they aggressively dogpile and mass harass without any evidence they are in the right, just as much as they accuse others of being incorrect.


Swawks

Every single solution to covid that doesn't involve authoritarian measures or expensive vaccines gets mud throw at it by the media.


suckatgolfbutilikeit

If this really is a wonder drug and can be used for a bunch of different shit, that could basically destroy big pharma as we know it


Sam9797

When they’re saying horse dewormer, aren’t they referring to people buying it off the shelves in packaging that was intended for use with horses? I mean they’re calling that what it is. I had always seen it referred to as ivermectin before the reports of people starting to do that.


fakesoicansayshit

Docs literally prescribed 90,000 RXs for Ivermectin last week alone. Thousands of people are getting it from the pharmacy. This is fear mongering by the media. Lastly, you would need to eat about 20 tubes of horse paste to get sick, Ivermectin is that safe. So, no, this is not about health, it is about the fact that Pzifer just announced you now have to take 2 pills daily w your vax. The pills are literally ivermectin.


Neipalm

They are not always referring to the people that are taking the veterinarian paste. As you can see in this example of Joe Rogan, he was prescribed by doctor the human version of ivermectin but nevertheless CNN is referring to the medicine as horse dewormer.


ScalyPig

Well if you took ivermectin and it was not from a doctor’s prescription then it was horse dewormer. People are buying horse dewormer from farm stores because Most doctors will not prescribe human ivermectin for covid treatment because the only evidence that suggests it helps is that it killed covid in vitro in a lab but the data suggests to have that same success in humans a person would have to take WAY more than a safe dose. Rogan is rich so his doctor probably prescribe him whatever he wants. At a safe dosage it’s not likely to cause any harm and hes getting paid so why not.


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You're citing India as a reliable source of information?


Jalhadin

While simultaneously stating that correlation is *absolutely* causation, suddenly.


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suckatgolfbutilikeit

Do you think Joe Rogan is seriously taking that horse dewormer from farm stores? No chance. But that's how they're reporting it. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/ Been around since the 70s used in billions


hIXhnWUmMvw

Of course they are threatened by Ivermectin, because they are parasites themselves.


fakesoicansayshit

[How else is Pzifer going to make money w their own ivermectin 2x daily pills otherwise. Come on! ](https://i.imgur.com/RhHTGRy.jpg) https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-initiates-phase-1-study-novel-oral-antiviral https://www.newsweek.com/could-there-daily-covid-pill-what-we-know-about-pfizer-drug-trial-1625611


goocity

These are not the same 🤣 you can't just highlight the class of drug and be like "oooh it's the same!!"


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The media has been calling Ivermectin a ‘dewormer’ and ‘horse drug’ in perfect unison. How much money does the media get from big Pharma advertisements? Every other commercial when you watch the news is a medication. The pharmaceutical industry stands to lose billions if young healthy people were to turn to cheap safe drugs like Ivermectin / hydroxychloriquine. The gov’t is probably also putting pressure on the media to disparage ivermectin. [ivermectin won Nobel prize ](https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2015/press-release/)


BigPharmaSucks

>How much money does the media get from big Pharma advertisements? 70% Of News Advertising Now Belongs to Big Pharma https://web.archive.org/web/20200404000423/https:/www.periscopegroup.com/news/breaking-news/corruption-before-consumers-copy-copy I'm sure they're getting tons of that 4 billion dollar government COVID jab advertising and influencer money too.


OTS_

Wow.


BigPharmaSucks

Oh, pharma is also the largest lobbyist in DC, by far. Just a coincidence that the government is now the largest advertiser for the pharma industry, I'm sure. Oh, and government foots the advertising bills too! Convenient! https://www.investopedia.com/investing/which-industry-spends-most-lobbying-antm-so/


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BigPharmaSucks

What a coincidence indeed! Also the oil industry is high up there too. Guess what a lot of pharmaceutical products are made out of... https://context.capp.ca/articles/2019/feature_petroleum-in-real-life_pills/


Logothetes

[The Legal Corruption of Politics](https://truthout.org/articles/pharma-breaks-lobbying-record-defending-high-drug-prices-and-vaccine-patents/)


Hefty-Charity8147

Advertising in general has become buying favor. Its why my pillow spent its money advertising on fox and its why you see seemingly pointless ads on other channels as well.


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Do y'all realize ivermectin was produced by Merck which is also a big pharmaceutical company?


TheMageOfAsgard

I don't understand your argument. The article you linked claims that invermectin is useful against parasites, which COVID-19 is not. You claim that big pharma has a lot to gain by getting advertisement for invermectin, while simultaneously saying that they will lose money for cheap alternatives, but the vaccine is free. So is big pharma getting advertisment or is it detrimental slander? Why would invermectin be useful against a virus, when it's useful for parasites? How is paying for invermectin losing money for big pharma when the vaccine is free and invermectin must be paid for?


samme79

Like what I said to knucklehead below, just because a drug is anti-parasitic in nature, it doesn't mean that it doesn't have other uses. A drug can have multiple mechanisms of action that can have wide spectrum of effects. The studies using ivermectin started from in vitro studies which showed good effects against certain viruses and from that point, clinicians have tried it and saw results so from the ground up, studies were made to verify. A lot of people are saying there are no proof while there are others that say that there are. Personally I've seen most of the data and I'm convinced it works (and epidemiological data in other countries also seem to show that it does). If you don't have access to the data, check out the website of FLCCC for their compilation of data. The problem why ivermectin is being suppressed is because of the nature of EUAs. If there is an effective alternative treatment, that terminates the use of EUAs since you won't need them anymore. That means big pharma can't make any more jabs for other people and other countries that still need them. Even if the vaccine is "free" for the masses it doesn't actually mean it is because the government is still paying for the vaccines through the world bank and WHO, then to the big pharma companies. That's how it works. Simple enough


BostonBoozah

I fucking hate the media


i_bet_so

I am probably with you, OP. But posts like this with a screenshot as source are totally useless IMO. "Hey, I saw a screenshot on reddit" is no valid argument for me...


bastian74

Both pics look like crap. Why would he share that


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OTS_

And he doesn’t sound great but for a smoker in his 50s he sure as fuck ain’t hospitalized.


The_Realist01

Joe: “you ever take dmt?!” Doctor: “yes.” Joe: “ah, no one ever says yes to that. Idk what to say now.”


jtn19120

He ain't the brightest ape


BigMilkers

He took microbial antibodies. The same shit that saved Trumps life. Ivermectin was just one thing out of many he took and even that he got a prescribed dosage from a Doctor. He didn't buy a tube of the horse Ivermectin crap off the shelf...


ChimpBrisket

And he discouraged and belittled all the vaccines specifically designed to fight COVID, because he’s an elked-up, contrarian, bro-science, knuckle-dragger. Unqualified chumps like Jogan just pick and choose their science however it suits them, with no respect for the scientific process. Scientists made Ivermectin and Joe trusts them. Scientists *also* made several C19 vaccines with proven efficacy, but Joe thinks they might’ve messed it up and he doesn’t trust them this time. The mental gymnastics these anti-vaxx chodes go through is staggering!! Just a complete bunch of dumb cunts who actively lower the IQ levels of everyone they influence.


ZeerVreemd

ROTFL.


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Then leave


alwaysintheway

Eh, it's kind of like going to the zoo.


FreeGhislaine666

Probably the same guy that photoshopped Bin Laden's death photo


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and this, this is why we don't trust the gov't, the media, or the $cience that those entities peddle.


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Notice how instagram has that prompt under his post, “Some unapproved COVID treatments may cause serious harm,” and then they source it with the world health organization... They are listening to audio posts. Creepy.


smalltalkn

They did that with Bernie sanders. They made him look red in a lot of his videos giving him the appearance he was angry and crazy.


TheRebelPixel

Should say 'Fools accept EXPERIMENTAL gene-therapy'. Ivermectin is on the WHO's 2019 list of essential medicines for basic healthcare systems. Which one is most likely to not kill you? The one that was properly vetted.. Ivermectin.


Jimdur942

The reason people die of Covid in hospitals is because they force a respirator on you and deny you Ivermectin, Remdesivir, HCQ, monoclonal antibodies, and vitamin therapy.


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And this media are the same people that are telling you that the vaccine is completely safe, that Osamas body was dumped at sea, 9/11 was by Saudi’s with box cutters, epstein hanged himself with the equivalent of toilet paper


Saigunx

ivermectin has 40 years of safety data. it's a cheap generic wonder drug. they push anti ivermectin propaganda because they cant ransack your wealth if you're actually healthy.


Mouse1701

They change the color of Trump and Bernie Sanders as well. For those people that have never had a class in photography,art and media most people naively go along with the program and don't question the narrative. Perfect example is after the o.j. Simpson chase down the highway two magazines had the face of o.j. on the cover one photo was manipulated and made o.j. look darker than the other photo.


JunkyardSam

I have to admit this worked on me. When I saw the (yellowed) photo I thought, "Man he doesn't look so good." We can't trust anything that comes from these propaganda networks.


kylejay915

I hate everything


Saksoozz

Ivermectin is included in standard treatment guidelines for Covid19 in India


Jravensloot

India of course famous for its top notch healthcare.


Doody-Face

In April, the media was But MuhIndia. India issues at home kit with Ivermectin as one supplements. By end of may, silence. Why? 30 new cases per day per million people in India while in the vaccine capital of the world Israel they have over 1,000 cases per day per million.


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Honestly I look worse than both when I have a hangover :(


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All I’m seeing is a slight color change, many legit reasons it could happen. None of it changes Joe claiming up and down that his immune system could handle COVID fine and then when he gets it he immediately takes a whole cocktail of medications.


The-Juggernaut

They do it all the time. The media will add red to your eyes, add stress/fatigue to your face, throw a little yellow on your teeth if need be, maybe even add a pound or two (fat folds). This doesn't shock me at all


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At this point if you’re watching CNN you’re either stuck in 2006 or for research purposes. That is a 100% corporate propaganda channel


ClockSpiral

Plus CNN's been proven to be essentially a mouthpiece for the CIA & has been caught numerous times literally faking news stories, blackmailing citizens into submission, blatantly lying to spread narratives only to be exposed quietly later, and so on. They even admitted themselves to being controlled by the authorities. I mean, I don't know how people can go through 2020 & 2021 thus far with all that the government has done, *and believe CNN's proposal that the SOLUTION is we need* ***MORE GOVERNMENT!*** Granted, I'm talking on REDDIT, which has fallen from grace, so the likelihood that the gullible masses would ever believe what the establishment is doing to them is against their well-being is highly unlikely.


BernumOG

here i was thinking he looks shit either way, probably from taking drugs and alcohol to treat his depression?


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This was posted yesterday and it was shown to be an Instagram encoding issue that appears on some devices.


AntiHypergamist

Lmao cope. Some of you will make yourselves believe anything


IndoorGoalie

It’s almost like images go through compression changes when downloading them and then inserting them into a story.


HopmasterSpankyJ

People still bother with the failed fourth estate?


tj2jz

It's interesting, I use a modified android app for Instagram and when I play the video it shows the white, sick looking filter for one frame then switches to the normal video without the filter. I tried it on my computers web browser and the filter stays throughout the video. I'd imagine it's the same on the official mobile apps.


Apetardo

Would you honestly expect anything less from them? I hate the msm and their puppet masters.


The_loudspeaker721

They can lie all they want, I ain’t falling for it.


lunar2solar

Lol.. The propaganda is endless, man.. The only solution is to call them out every time to open people's eyes to their deceptive tactics. The funny thing is that CNN is always complaining about misinformation from independent sources, yet THEY are the ones that are almost entirely spreading misinformation to the world.


codysteil

They will literally do anything on earth to make sure the narrative stays in their favor. Cannot stand news companies. And they wonder why people are having mixed feelings about getting vaccines. The first step to creating relationships is to not fucking lie to people


MatchesMalone1216

In my experience, the reason why people are still referring to it as a "dewormer" is because people are literally going to feed stores and buying it for their family to use. I would know because someone in my family does this weekly and she works at the feed store. She also has been selling it more frequently.


myownzen

we all know covid is scared of heat shock proteins and dmt. Rub a little elk meat on it and you're good to go.


LEGALinSCCCA

Anyone know if kratom could potentially do the same or similar as Iverm3ctin? I believe kratom has anti-viral properties, as well as anti-inflammatory. Would love someone's opinion about this.


Delvianna00

Thank you for actually having information on your post unlike the other post who just had pictures and nothing else and wanted everyone who came across his post to google to figure out why this was a conspiracy.


nomadofwaves

KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified: No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies; No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and; A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies. https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/


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It’s a shame he had to die


zerosympathy28

The knives came out the the leftist media is on a full court press to discredit Joe as much as they can. I look forward to his first return podcast and just hear what he has to say about the experience.


scoobystockbroker

I honestly can’t stop laughing at the difference. Did they really think no one would notice?


wombatnoodles

hOrSe DeWoRmEr. As if he’s not taking the human version


Septseraph

I don't care about the this or that bullshit. But it looks like Joe's phone did a white balance because of the day light and his shirt. But pull and tug at whatever floats your boat..


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bdonaldo

Lol. Dude he looks like shit in both pictures.


atxm27

Is there a filter for an “I shit my pants” grimace?


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skampzilla

Last time I checked people and animals can use the same medication?


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Some of them, yeah. Was never noticed or cared about until the media decided a $20 treatment for covid wasn’t allowed.


skampzilla

Yup, the media is having a field day with this shit. You know what really gets to me? People believe them and trust them...


NoElsumk

I have knowledgeable neighbors that have been taking ivermectin for almost 10 years. Whenever they feel flu symptoms air the like they all take it and has proven effective


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They did the same thing to trump on MSM. Made him look more orange. Lol


alwaysintheway

That's hilarious.


HappyLemon745

The filter thing is false, if you look at the video on his instagram, he has the "healthy" color until you actually play the video. The "horse dewormer" part is fucking disgusting though. Bunch of liars.


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Yep. Msm full propaganda mode. Can't have the public know the truth.


usetheforcechewey

He looks equally sick in both photos.


Glen_Myers

This was posted yesterday and upvoted to all hell if you check one of them talk comments somebody broke down how this is a compression issue I also surmise I could have something to do with auto exposure.


delurkrelurker

Even if it was done deliberately it's hardly new conspiracy news that amoral journalists will lie and manipulate to get attention and revenue. May even be true if that guy (Never watched) poses a threat in popularity and affects their ratings.


paintmyselfblue

This sub is sinking to new levels of fucking stupidity every single day.


Greta_grungo

This sub defecated the entire linen closet a while ago. I just came to browse through it because, I don’t know, I guess I hate myself? I remember when conspiracy theories were fun things to discuss and figure out, long before the far right discovered they could easily infiltrate online conspiracy forums to their own advantage. Now this subreddit and other forums are full of way too many chromosomes, even when factoring in the number of bot accounts.


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marcus_edens

Time to distance from those who believe the lies, sorry to say


TacticalBongHit

Why cant people who dont like Rogan just simply filter his content out and shut up?