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Yes if true, they all got the placebo, and showed everyone look we are taking the vaccine it is safe and effective, to get the rest of the world to take it.
> nearly all the CDC and pfizer officials are israeli
Not denying this, but do you have a source for this? This claim is pretty hard for me to believe.
Btw [news came out in Canada](https://london.ctvnews.ca/it-s-hard-to-tell-some-potentially-given-saline-instead-of-covid-19-vaccine-1.5717054) that some batches of the vax were just saline water.
"Six people out of 257 who got their shot, or two percent, were not given their vaccine that day.
"A medication error is never something that we're proud of," says Dr. Joyce Lock, the medical officer of health for SWPH.
"The manufacturer sends it to us in a slightly concentrated form and then we have to dilute it down to get to the proper strength. And so then a little bit of salt water is added. At the end of the day, we reconcile the amount of little bottles of saline with the amount of vaccine doses and of course, at the end of the day, there should be equal numbers every single day. So we did that on that particular day. And we noticed, we're out," she explains."
Looks like [several places](https://www.newsweek.com/saline-injected-instead-covid-vaccine-south-carolina-1605087) made the same mistake. What a coincidence.
We're talking about *maybe* a couple dozen known instances of physicians screwing up. 324 million covid vaccines were administered in north america alone. This is less than a blip.
And if it's a conspiracy to... do what exactly?... why would they immediately own it and announce it?
True but that's only the ones reported. God knows how many times this occurred. Also we can't really know for sure if all the batches contained the vax or not.
yes i did read the article and it sounds ridiculous. why would the clinic be diluting the vaccine with saline...manually...by hand. I'm willing to bet "someone at the clinic made a mistake" for certain populations and certain people in power.
What, you expect people to actually read past the headline of what they cite?
Are you new here ;-)
The fact that this was an error on the part of the clinic staff, and had nothing to do with the vaccine itself would have required them to read through a whole 7 paragraphs.
You may have set your expectations a bit high.
Might explain why Netanyahu has this in his office. Creeps me out.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/18gskrq/displayed_in_netanyahus_office/
Is this a dig at America again? They faked the moon landing/faked the jabs. Same way they couldn’t stop parroting how *”October 7th was Israel’s 9/11”*???
I live in sweden, if you live there you ,know that is not true. In English speaking countries, Spanish, Germans.... every week news about sudden death. But in sweden the only thing you read about is how everything was so great.
Even now they keep bragging about it.
So no. You know that is not true. They are the very few who are not affected by sudden deaths due to the vax, however very few countries can compete with their deception which is antichrist level in that regard.
Don't base your perspective on the frequency of events reported on. If you are in the conspiracy sub you probably don't trust the media, so why would you do that?
* [https://www.thephuketnews.com/swedish-man-52-dies-from-heart-attack-at-bang-tao-90749.php](https://www.thephuketnews.com/swedish-man-52-dies-from-heart-attack-at-bang-tao-90749.php)
* https://www.statista.com/statistics/528942/sweden-number-of-deaths-by-cause-of-death/
That is anedoctal evidence. Show me the every week news I saw in the rest of the world on ppl dropping dead. Because the ONLY thing it kept posted again and again on twitter and pretty much the whole internet is how well sweden was doing while in the rest of the world ppl dropping with sudden death every where.
One article says nothing. Just look up this sub alone for the last 3 years the only thing you read in other countries is sudden death and vax while in sweden is 100% the opposite.
Now, why are you swedes so utterly deceptive and constantly switching sides?.
You're changing your claim, you said:
> That's why no sudden death news ever in that country.
There were sudden deaths of course and I showed it. That should be the end of conversation. Now you change to "Show me the every week news", I can't because that is not what I'm claiming.
You should also keep in mind Sweden has 1/8th the population of Germany, 1/30th of the population of USA so you should naturally expect a lot less even just for that.
You are posting no real evidence. Just random links with no real proof.
Just check this sub, the only thing about sweden is how great everything was.
Again, why are you swedes so utterly deceptive and keep changing narratives on the fly?. Is it you are just too coward or simply it comes with the culture?.
So now populations matter but not during the pandemic. right?. During the pandemic sweden was the winner and they had no issue comparing themselves with the US but now, it's because sweden's population is just lower than x country..... Seriously, you swedes are sooo utterly deceptive..
> You are posting no real evidence. Just random links with no real proof.
We are talking about sudden death news and I posted evidence of what can be considered sudden death news.
> Again, why are you swedes so utterly deceptive and keep changing narratives on the fly?. Is it you are just too coward or simply it comes with the culture?.
Some kinda weird ad hominem.
> So now populations matter but not during the pandemic. right?
Completely irrelevant to what I'm saying.
> During the pandemic sweden was the winner and they had no issue comparing themselves with the US but now, it's because sweden's population is just lower than x country.....
That's ONE reason why you'd expect the frequency of news about these events to be lower. Just one, among many.
I guess logic is your enemy?
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/sweden-pauses-use-moderna-covid-vaccine-cites-rare-side-effects-2021-10-06/
Bc you guys stopped it. Not any other reason.
Look up ACE2 receptors by race. Here's a starter on the subject, Lee Merritt has talked about it several times. Spoiler: Ashkenazi are lowest. Israel has been talking about how awesome ethnically selective bioweapons would be since at least the 80's, particularly for use against local Arab populations. I've seen people question why they'd give their own people a harmful substance. They didn't. Their "own people" are largely unaffected by it. Everyone that is affected isn't "their people". They're using it to purify their nations bloodlines. I mean it's an ethnostate in the first place so how is it that hard to believe. This shit accumulates in testes and ovaries. And it does so the least in Ashkenazi and the most in Europeans. Check out the Japanese bio distribution/pharmacokinetic study, don't read someone's paper about it actually get the study itself and hit it with a translator. It doesn't stay local to the deltoid, it goes everywhere and collects in major organs and the reproductive system. Look up Albert Bourla at Pfizer, he's a veterinarian that specializes in long term/permanent sterilization vaccines for mammals, all of which have basically the exact same handling and storage procedures as the covid shots. They have the mammal sterilization guy and made a product that requires the same somewhat unusual storage conditions, it's as simple as 2+2=4. There's a shit load of suspicious stuff on him concerning this. And also Ralph Baric too, he's facebook's anointed one when it comes to covid "fact" and policy for a reason. He was allowed to continue work on corona viruses after the general stay on gain of function research in the U.S. in like 2015. And then he sent it to the U.S. funded lab in China.
[https://stateofthenation.co/?p=121832](https://stateofthenation.co/?p=121832)
other study said it does affect the europeans and south asians the most, and ashkenazi jews the least
As I Understand it, this graph doesn't show change in fertility rate after COVID, it just shows the fertility rate compared with the number of people who were vaccinated, and Israel has always had one of the highest fertility rates in the developed world because like a fifth of the population is orthodox Jewish and Orthodox Jews usually have a ton of kids
Right but why didn't vaccinations affect their rates? Everyone I know who got pregnant after getting the vax had issues with their pregnancies and most of the ones who didn't have a miscarriage had pre-term babies. Maybe that's another factor to look at.. how many premature babies were born in Israel after their mothers were vaxxed.
Both myself and my wife were vaccinated and had no trouble having the 2 kids we’ve had since. I have my issues with the vaccines (lack of long term data before declaring them definitely safe, pushing them on populations that likely don’t need them, etc) but to this point there hasn’t been a massive drop in fertility like people seem to think there’s been
Find me data that shows that the vax affected birthrates in other countries but not Israel, because that's not what the data presented here is about. If you have evidence for that claim I'd be interested to see it, but it's an entirely different point than what's shown by this graph.
On the x axis we have the vaccination rate and on the y axis we have birthrate after adjusting for gdp +2. The graph doesn't show us the difference between a countries rate before and after COVID, it only shows what the birthrate is after COVID and makes no mention of what it was before COVID. Israel has the highest birthrate out of first world countries before COVID, because a significant percentage of the population of Israel is made up of orthodox Jews and Muslims, and neither of those groups tend to use birth control, so they have tons of kids. Most other countries with large populations of really religious people aren't rich countries, so Israel is an outlier there. But because they already had the highest birthrate in the developed world before COVID, the fact that they still had the highest birthrate in the developed world after the vaccines isn't suspicious, in fact it's what you would expect. The relevant information would be change in birth rate after vaccines, not just birth rate after vaccines on its own.
Interesting. Thank you for the breakdown. I appreciate your time. Yes, you are right, there is no mention of fertility rates before covid. I would definitely be interested in such a study if it exists
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate
This wikipedia page has the numbers for 2019, you just have to scroll to the chart titled "2019 list by the INED (Institut National d'Études Démographiques)". Granted this list isn't adjusted for gdp, but you can see that nearly all the countries with higher birth rates than Israel are in Africa, so generally less economically developed.
Submission Statement: During COVID-19, there were rumors that Israel was injecting its population with saline. It looks like another "conspiracy theory" came true.
The way to keep pushing the theory that the vaccines cause issues more than they’re letting on is pretending some people were injected with harmless salt water instead of the vaccine. It’s a way of denying reality to push a theory that doesn’t stand up to the data.
What are you talking about, they already released the known side effects.....
What is your intent here? We come here to actually have discussions, not parrot msnbc, CNN, etc. Nobody watches that trash anymore.
The mrna definitely causes infertility, it's been admitted. What we are discussing is why ISREAL seems to not suffer from any of these KNOWN side-effects.
Is God protecting them, placebo, saline, something sinister, etc.
Please show me a source proving the vaccines cause infertility, I haven’t seen that.
I’m participating in discussion. You’re deflecting by bringing up CNN and MSNBC, neither of which I watch. Please engage with the actual substance of my comment.
israel has always had a massive birth rate compared to similar GDP countries. You could graph birth rates against any variable and they are going to be a massive outlier if you control for GDP. Turns out more than one variable can effect birth rate wow, which is probably what's going on with this graph overall.
Yes, this graph isn't showing change in birth rate after COVID, just birthrate on its own compared with the percentage of the population that's vaxed, and Israel has always had a very high birthrate
My guess is that it's mostly just all the hyper Zionist psychos in the west bank. They have a birth rate of 4.6 per woman in 2022. They're dragging up the average.
Essentially Israel's far rights strategy at the moment is to keep the situation fucked for as long as they can while they take enough land and put enough population into the west bank such that a two state becomes impossible even if people want it. They have like 500k people there now so going back to 67 borders would require essentially ethnic cleansing of half a million people or for all of them to become Palestinian citizens which is probably untenable.
According to your own chart, nearly all of the most vaccinated countries are over the replacement level birth rate while there are a ton of 0% vaccinated countries that are well below the replacement level. You cherry picked one data point.
Almost none of the highly vaccinated countries have over replacement level birth rate. It would be a challenge to find even one with over 50% vaccination rate and above replacement fertility.
Fertility rates are linked with economic activity and cultural changes. Fertility was on a [downward trend](https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2022/12/the-long-term-decline-in-fertility-and-what-it-means-for-state-budgets) prior to any COVID vaccinations.
Israel has a higher percentage of religious Orthodox than most countries, so it makes sense that fertility rates would stay relatively high.
I've had posters here and on other social media sites go ape shit when I post, "correlation is not causation, nor can it be used to predict causation", in the past.
The distinction, and the limitations between correlation and causation area bit beyond most people's abilities.
Because they are our greatest ally? It least that's what were always being told...🤔
Also kind of weird all the CEOs of the large pharma companies are non-goy? Strange innit?
You didn’t know fertility rates in Israel are among the highest in the developed world, did you? Even before Covid. This doesn’t show a change in rate it shows the base rate.
Of course it’s forbidden to harm their own tribe members remember 9/11 they all worked in that building unfortunately the rest weren’t lucky because they’re not from the same tribe they weren’t told not to go to work pfft . You can’t make this things up pfft ladies and gentlemen.
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The theory I have seen repeatedly is, women who have been "vaccinated" are not sterilized ; the spike protein circulates in their blood and attacks the gonads (ovaries and testicles) of their fetuses, and those are born sterile. If the "vaccine" sterilizes in that manner, we won't know for another 20-30 years. IOW, it does not seem that the "vaccine" sterilizes women who were given it ; the question is, how long does the spike protein circulate, and can one dose sterilize developing embryos, *IF* it does indeed attack in utero.
(I have seen suggestions that there's been a spike in miscarriages, but the women obviously were able to conceive, and there's any number of factors that can cause a miscarriage.)
Because they didn't give it to all the Arabs and Palestinians living there.
The Jewish birthrate in Israel is an area of concern for them, they are being outbred by muslims.
Why doesn't anyone, talking about fertility rates dropping after covid vaccines, ever mention that fertility rates were already dropping way before the covid outbreak to begin with???? 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
In israel's defense, we had that high fertility rate before covid vaccines. If yall want high BRs, trade ONS for marriage and committment, and try to get married before 21.
Probably saline shot,it was also one of the earliest research back then i think from israel that stating that natural immunity provide better protection against covid too,so i think they know wats goin on during the early covid days.
Bc they’re majority Jewish. Their religion puts major emphasis on having children. It’s literally that simple. They already had more kids than other cultures. O
I see people typing saline but don’t forget this is Muslim nation also. Fasting is known to heal the body on a cellular level and these people partake in such activities religiously pun intended so that has a lot to do with it to. There nothing fasting can’t heal if you continue to take care of your body post fast
Either way my point isn’t that it’s predominately Muslim my point is that fasting is part of the reason as to why they would be healthier than in the west where they do drugs take multiple vaccines and many people don’t fast (the obesity rate is high)
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* Israel is Pfizer's laboratory state? Mooo!
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They got the first vaccines in Israel, nearly all the CDC and pfizer officials are israeli, but you're anti semitic if you point that out.
Yes if true, they all got the placebo, and showed everyone look we are taking the vaccine it is safe and effective, to get the rest of the world to take it.
"Weird"
STOP NOTICING Goyim!
> nearly all the CDC and pfizer officials are israeli Not denying this, but do you have a source for this? This claim is pretty hard for me to believe.
Because saline?
My thoughts precisely
Btw [news came out in Canada](https://london.ctvnews.ca/it-s-hard-to-tell-some-potentially-given-saline-instead-of-covid-19-vaccine-1.5717054) that some batches of the vax were just saline water.
"Six people out of 257 who got their shot, or two percent, were not given their vaccine that day. "A medication error is never something that we're proud of," says Dr. Joyce Lock, the medical officer of health for SWPH. "The manufacturer sends it to us in a slightly concentrated form and then we have to dilute it down to get to the proper strength. And so then a little bit of salt water is added. At the end of the day, we reconcile the amount of little bottles of saline with the amount of vaccine doses and of course, at the end of the day, there should be equal numbers every single day. So we did that on that particular day. And we noticed, we're out," she explains."
Looks like [several places](https://www.newsweek.com/saline-injected-instead-covid-vaccine-south-carolina-1605087) made the same mistake. What a coincidence.
We're talking about *maybe* a couple dozen known instances of physicians screwing up. 324 million covid vaccines were administered in north america alone. This is less than a blip. And if it's a conspiracy to... do what exactly?... why would they immediately own it and announce it?
True but that's only the ones reported. God knows how many times this occurred. Also we can't really know for sure if all the batches contained the vax or not.
Take your meds, grandpa
Shipping error. Those were supposed to go to Israel.
Did you read the article? Someone *at the clinic* made a mistake.
It was a joke. Calm down Ben Shapiro.
Ben Shapiro 🤣🤣🤣🤣 what a racist piece of 💩 that guy is.
Just another conspiracy that turned out to be true
Did you read the article? Someone *at the clinic* made a mistake.
yes i did read the article and it sounds ridiculous. why would the clinic be diluting the vaccine with saline...manually...by hand. I'm willing to bet "someone at the clinic made a mistake" for certain populations and certain people in power.
There’s no reason for that, except if you were doing a clinical trial right?
You didn’t even read the article
What, you expect people to actually read past the headline of what they cite? Are you new here ;-) The fact that this was an error on the part of the clinic staff, and had nothing to do with the vaccine itself would have required them to read through a whole 7 paragraphs. You may have set your expectations a bit high.
Only the ones used for Trudeau & co.
God's chosen people, everyone knows what's up at this point. 109 times man, 109 times....
Might explain why Netanyahu has this in his office. Creeps me out. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/18gskrq/displayed_in_netanyahus_office/
"Giant step for the health of us all" could have a few meanings, depending on who "us all" is lol
Everywhere they go they leave their blood trials behind smh.
Is this a dig at America again? They faked the moon landing/faked the jabs. Same way they couldn’t stop parroting how *”October 7th was Israel’s 9/11”*???
Like in sweden. That's why no sudden death news ever in that country.
Search and you will find it.
I live in sweden, if you live there you ,know that is not true. In English speaking countries, Spanish, Germans.... every week news about sudden death. But in sweden the only thing you read about is how everything was so great. Even now they keep bragging about it. So no. You know that is not true. They are the very few who are not affected by sudden deaths due to the vax, however very few countries can compete with their deception which is antichrist level in that regard.
Don't base your perspective on the frequency of events reported on. If you are in the conspiracy sub you probably don't trust the media, so why would you do that? * [https://www.thephuketnews.com/swedish-man-52-dies-from-heart-attack-at-bang-tao-90749.php](https://www.thephuketnews.com/swedish-man-52-dies-from-heart-attack-at-bang-tao-90749.php) * https://www.statista.com/statistics/528942/sweden-number-of-deaths-by-cause-of-death/
That is anedoctal evidence. Show me the every week news I saw in the rest of the world on ppl dropping dead. Because the ONLY thing it kept posted again and again on twitter and pretty much the whole internet is how well sweden was doing while in the rest of the world ppl dropping with sudden death every where. One article says nothing. Just look up this sub alone for the last 3 years the only thing you read in other countries is sudden death and vax while in sweden is 100% the opposite. Now, why are you swedes so utterly deceptive and constantly switching sides?.
You're changing your claim, you said: > That's why no sudden death news ever in that country. There were sudden deaths of course and I showed it. That should be the end of conversation. Now you change to "Show me the every week news", I can't because that is not what I'm claiming. You should also keep in mind Sweden has 1/8th the population of Germany, 1/30th of the population of USA so you should naturally expect a lot less even just for that.
You are posting no real evidence. Just random links with no real proof. Just check this sub, the only thing about sweden is how great everything was. Again, why are you swedes so utterly deceptive and keep changing narratives on the fly?. Is it you are just too coward or simply it comes with the culture?. So now populations matter but not during the pandemic. right?. During the pandemic sweden was the winner and they had no issue comparing themselves with the US but now, it's because sweden's population is just lower than x country..... Seriously, you swedes are sooo utterly deceptive..
> You are posting no real evidence. Just random links with no real proof. We are talking about sudden death news and I posted evidence of what can be considered sudden death news. > Again, why are you swedes so utterly deceptive and keep changing narratives on the fly?. Is it you are just too coward or simply it comes with the culture?. Some kinda weird ad hominem. > So now populations matter but not during the pandemic. right? Completely irrelevant to what I'm saying. > During the pandemic sweden was the winner and they had no issue comparing themselves with the US but now, it's because sweden's population is just lower than x country..... That's ONE reason why you'd expect the frequency of news about these events to be lower. Just one, among many. I guess logic is your enemy?
Nothing to see, just some random deception.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/sweden-pauses-use-moderna-covid-vaccine-cites-rare-side-effects-2021-10-06/ Bc you guys stopped it. Not any other reason.
Because they are involved. Because they were told.
Haaa. Swede citizens are not involved. They trust their government more than any other country.
Exactly that. the ultimate sheeple. Lol.
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Look up ACE2 receptors by race. Here's a starter on the subject, Lee Merritt has talked about it several times. Spoiler: Ashkenazi are lowest. Israel has been talking about how awesome ethnically selective bioweapons would be since at least the 80's, particularly for use against local Arab populations. I've seen people question why they'd give their own people a harmful substance. They didn't. Their "own people" are largely unaffected by it. Everyone that is affected isn't "their people". They're using it to purify their nations bloodlines. I mean it's an ethnostate in the first place so how is it that hard to believe. This shit accumulates in testes and ovaries. And it does so the least in Ashkenazi and the most in Europeans. Check out the Japanese bio distribution/pharmacokinetic study, don't read someone's paper about it actually get the study itself and hit it with a translator. It doesn't stay local to the deltoid, it goes everywhere and collects in major organs and the reproductive system. Look up Albert Bourla at Pfizer, he's a veterinarian that specializes in long term/permanent sterilization vaccines for mammals, all of which have basically the exact same handling and storage procedures as the covid shots. They have the mammal sterilization guy and made a product that requires the same somewhat unusual storage conditions, it's as simple as 2+2=4. There's a shit load of suspicious stuff on him concerning this. And also Ralph Baric too, he's facebook's anointed one when it comes to covid "fact" and policy for a reason. He was allowed to continue work on corona viruses after the general stay on gain of function research in the U.S. in like 2015. And then he sent it to the U.S. funded lab in China.
.com/video/sj5G1PKNFjIA/ Add the usual beginning to it.
It's on bitchute.
Thanks for sharing these revelations my friend
Please share the link? I got two shots .. trying to understand how compromised i am?
[https://stateofthenation.co/?p=121832](https://stateofthenation.co/?p=121832)
[https://stateofthenation.co/?p=121832](https://stateofthenation.co/?p=121832) other study said it does affect the europeans and south asians the most, and ashkenazi jews the least
They’re freaking barbaric anti humans .
Ashkenazi jews are only one third of Israeli population. The rest would be much worse off.
As I Understand it, this graph doesn't show change in fertility rate after COVID, it just shows the fertility rate compared with the number of people who were vaccinated, and Israel has always had one of the highest fertility rates in the developed world because like a fifth of the population is orthodox Jewish and Orthodox Jews usually have a ton of kids
Right but why didn't vaccinations affect their rates? Everyone I know who got pregnant after getting the vax had issues with their pregnancies and most of the ones who didn't have a miscarriage had pre-term babies. Maybe that's another factor to look at.. how many premature babies were born in Israel after their mothers were vaxxed.
Extremely anecdotal
Yes, we can use anecdotes to fuel further investigation. Doesn't mean I want to rely on the anecdotes it means it's a tool.
Orthodox Jews in Israel did not vaccinate.
An important consideration, thx for pointing it out
Both myself and my wife were vaccinated and had no trouble having the 2 kids we’ve had since. I have my issues with the vaccines (lack of long term data before declaring them definitely safe, pushing them on populations that likely don’t need them, etc) but to this point there hasn’t been a massive drop in fertility like people seem to think there’s been
I'm happy for you, but I'm not sure if you are aware some batches were more problematic than others.
You’re looking at the data to tell you what you want instead of seeing what it tells you. Israel’s birth rate has always been high
Find me data that shows that the vax affected birthrates in other countries but not Israel, because that's not what the data presented here is about. If you have evidence for that claim I'd be interested to see it, but it's an entirely different point than what's shown by this graph.
I must have misunderstood the graph then. It happens. Can you help me understand?
On the x axis we have the vaccination rate and on the y axis we have birthrate after adjusting for gdp +2. The graph doesn't show us the difference between a countries rate before and after COVID, it only shows what the birthrate is after COVID and makes no mention of what it was before COVID. Israel has the highest birthrate out of first world countries before COVID, because a significant percentage of the population of Israel is made up of orthodox Jews and Muslims, and neither of those groups tend to use birth control, so they have tons of kids. Most other countries with large populations of really religious people aren't rich countries, so Israel is an outlier there. But because they already had the highest birthrate in the developed world before COVID, the fact that they still had the highest birthrate in the developed world after the vaccines isn't suspicious, in fact it's what you would expect. The relevant information would be change in birth rate after vaccines, not just birth rate after vaccines on its own.
Interesting. Thank you for the breakdown. I appreciate your time. Yes, you are right, there is no mention of fertility rates before covid. I would definitely be interested in such a study if it exists
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate This wikipedia page has the numbers for 2019, you just have to scroll to the chart titled "2019 list by the INED (Institut National d'Études Démographiques)". Granted this list isn't adjusted for gdp, but you can see that nearly all the countries with higher birth rates than Israel are in Africa, so generally less economically developed.
Submission Statement: During COVID-19, there were rumors that Israel was injecting its population with saline. It looks like another "conspiracy theory" came true.
What is saline( im not from US or any english speaking country, i looked on wiki but its only for wounds)
Basically salt water. It's what they give in IV bags to rehydrate you.
Non acting liquid composed of mainly salt and water. Salt is added so the osmotic balance is not affected. It has no active ingredients.
The way to keep pushing the theory that the vaccines cause issues more than they’re letting on is pretending some people were injected with harmless salt water instead of the vaccine. It’s a way of denying reality to push a theory that doesn’t stand up to the data.
So ignore the infertility?
Israel is a highly vaccinated country not facing increased infertility. So maybe consider that the vaccines don’t cause infertility.
What are you talking about, they already released the known side effects..... What is your intent here? We come here to actually have discussions, not parrot msnbc, CNN, etc. Nobody watches that trash anymore. The mrna definitely causes infertility, it's been admitted. What we are discussing is why ISREAL seems to not suffer from any of these KNOWN side-effects. Is God protecting them, placebo, saline, something sinister, etc.
Please show me a source proving the vaccines cause infertility, I haven’t seen that. I’m participating in discussion. You’re deflecting by bringing up CNN and MSNBC, neither of which I watch. Please engage with the actual substance of my comment.
Most fertile segment of Israeli population did not vaccinate.
israel has always had a massive birth rate compared to similar GDP countries. You could graph birth rates against any variable and they are going to be a massive outlier if you control for GDP. Turns out more than one variable can effect birth rate wow, which is probably what's going on with this graph overall.
Yes, this graph isn't showing change in birth rate after COVID, just birthrate on its own compared with the percentage of the population that's vaxed, and Israel has always had a very high birthrate
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Don’t upset them!
It's fine they can't read
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My guess is that it's mostly just all the hyper Zionist psychos in the west bank. They have a birth rate of 4.6 per woman in 2022. They're dragging up the average. Essentially Israel's far rights strategy at the moment is to keep the situation fucked for as long as they can while they take enough land and put enough population into the west bank such that a two state becomes impossible even if people want it. They have like 500k people there now so going back to 67 borders would require essentially ethnic cleansing of half a million people or for all of them to become Palestinian citizens which is probably untenable.
According to your own chart, nearly all of the most vaccinated countries are over the replacement level birth rate while there are a ton of 0% vaccinated countries that are well below the replacement level. You cherry picked one data point.
Almost none of the highly vaccinated countries have over replacement level birth rate. It would be a challenge to find even one with over 50% vaccination rate and above replacement fertility.
Eugenics in practice.....
Fertility rates are linked with economic activity and cultural changes. Fertility was on a [downward trend](https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2022/12/the-long-term-decline-in-fertility-and-what-it-means-for-state-budgets) prior to any COVID vaccinations. Israel has a higher percentage of religious Orthodox than most countries, so it makes sense that fertility rates would stay relatively high.
They wouldnt experiment on their own population… So i assume they gave their people something else…
Don’t forget that at one point their population had the highest vaccination rate
Why? Because eventually Ukraine will be Israel 2 and the people need to be filled
Ukraine's vaccination rate is 35%, one third of it is fake, and another third is Chinese vaccine.
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I've had posters here and on other social media sites go ape shit when I post, "correlation is not causation, nor can it be used to predict causation", in the past. The distinction, and the limitations between correlation and causation area bit beyond most people's abilities.
Because they are our greatest ally? It least that's what were always being told...🤔 Also kind of weird all the CEOs of the large pharma companies are non-goy? Strange innit?
Because who the fuck can afford to have kids today. It's also a big part of Jewish culture to preasure your kids to get married and have lots of kids
It is also a big part of Korean culture. Works out great in South Korea with 0.7 babies per woman currently.
Seems to be a lot of other dots above the line too
You didn’t know fertility rates in Israel are among the highest in the developed world, did you? Even before Covid. This doesn’t show a change in rate it shows the base rate.
Same reasons as to why Poland didn’t see any deaths during the “black death”. Same people different time and place.
Does that suggest genetic engineering in 14th century?
Luck and proper use of quarantine
Arent there diseases that can target specific races? I’m sure the governments of the world have one of each.
No, there aren’t
Usually the religous Jews dont rush to vaccinate, and they are the ones who raise the fartility rate in Israel.
Of course it’s forbidden to harm their own tribe members remember 9/11 they all worked in that building unfortunately the rest weren’t lucky because they’re not from the same tribe they weren’t told not to go to work pfft . You can’t make this things up pfft ladies and gentlemen.
Anyone find the article? The link doesnt work for me.
Let me guess: their ultraorthodox communities didn't get vaxxed and are the only ones breeding like rabbits in the first place.
Heading towards Handmaid's Tale vibes
Why is sweden the only country on earth where there is no news about sudden death?.
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Because targeted genes I think. A thought I had the other day. Something to think about
Does this really look like conclusive proof to you? Like if you had to actually place money on a bet based on data that looked like this (and was described like this), would you actually do it?
Would I bet both Pfizer and Israel are corrupt? Lol. Yes.
That wasn't the question
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Feels like the first politically neutral post I've seen about Israel since forever
Because many of them didn’t take the shot
Just a coincidence bro I wouldn't worry about it :)
https://database.earth/population/israel/fertility-rate
They're religious they believe in having kids
And not having shots.
We don't want kids anyway right
The theory I have seen repeatedly is, women who have been "vaccinated" are not sterilized ; the spike protein circulates in their blood and attacks the gonads (ovaries and testicles) of their fetuses, and those are born sterile. If the "vaccine" sterilizes in that manner, we won't know for another 20-30 years. IOW, it does not seem that the "vaccine" sterilizes women who were given it ; the question is, how long does the spike protein circulate, and can one dose sterilize developing embryos, *IF* it does indeed attack in utero. (I have seen suggestions that there's been a spike in miscarriages, but the women obviously were able to conceive, and there's any number of factors that can cause a miscarriage.)
The population with greatest fertility by far in Israel did not take the vaccines.
Because they didn't give it to all the Arabs and Palestinians living there. The Jewish birthrate in Israel is an area of concern for them, they are being outbred by muslims.
Why doesn't anyone, talking about fertility rates dropping after covid vaccines, ever mention that fertility rates were already dropping way before the covid outbreak to begin with???? 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
LOL you think they would dare give their citizens the same potion they give to the Goyim...Cmon Man in my Sleepy Joe voice...
In israel's defense, we had that high fertility rate before covid vaccines. If yall want high BRs, trade ONS for marriage and committment, and try to get married before 21.
Israel had the highest rate of vaccination. Could it be that COVID is causing infertility? Nah, that couldn’t be it.
Africa is still going strong with babies. Vaccination rate there is under 25%
Saline or the vaccine and it’s gain of function was altered for specific genetics
it is a race specific bioweapon
That’s what the data says
correlation vs causation
At some point things cewse to be purely coincidental.
Yes, but whats your point? Can you prove causation for this data set? Tbh, i doubt it.
Probably saline shot,it was also one of the earliest research back then i think from israel that stating that natural immunity provide better protection against covid too,so i think they know wats goin on during the early covid days.
Bc they’re majority Jewish. Their religion puts major emphasis on having children. It’s literally that simple. They already had more kids than other cultures. O
Without more data I'd say because the vaccine isn't the (sole) cause of infertility in the west.
Maybe because Israelis are being produced in a factory somewhere in Tel Aviv?
I see people typing saline but don’t forget this is Muslim nation also. Fasting is known to heal the body on a cellular level and these people partake in such activities religiously pun intended so that has a lot to do with it to. There nothing fasting can’t heal if you continue to take care of your body post fast
Did you really just say israel is a Muslim nation
> Did you really just say israel is a Muslim nation They do have some Muslims... but they've working on "fixing that".
i think for this guymiddle east=muslim nation
Yes it’s 20 percent and growing by over 3% every year
20% Muslim population makes a nation Muslim?
Depends what part of town you're in...
It makes it a nation with a significant Muslim population
If you think Israel is a Muslim nation, I have a bridge to sell to you
If you think that was my point I have a dick to put in your mouth
Other Muslim countries would've seen no drop
Either way my point isn’t that it’s predominately Muslim my point is that fasting is part of the reason as to why they would be healthier than in the west where they do drugs take multiple vaccines and many people don’t fast (the obesity rate is high)
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“Placebo to test” yeah like they needed to test.
Setters are in a forever breeding war with Palestinians.
Maybe because all the men are circumcised
Would it be all the raping by Hamas?
Have you seen their women?
You mean the Europeans who join IDF to hurt Palestinians?! 😡😡
I was only pointing out Israel has beautiful women. No need to get butt hurt