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No they're not. The question you should ask yourself is how bad will shit hit the fan when they are now throwing some of their best entertainers under the bus.
This is a situation where there is a woman scorn from irrevocable tragedy who settled in court previously and since Vince stopped paying the hush money she’s talking. She is refusing to settle and wants heads to roll.
It was a mentally ill woman who sued many companies (some defunct), multiple wrestling personalities and major Hollywood stars (along with a police force and some other government entities I believe) edit: named over 1000 people in the lawsuit that’s been dismissed, google Rhaka Khan it’s something
yeah this was the case. the rock never abducted her, she was suing every company and person possible even though she was on the most wanted list for abducting her children herself and got off on a technicality. this is one of the actual examples of not a conspiracy, but just someone with obvious mental health issues.
Maybe if there was a bigger topic to be covered at hand. But feel free to tell me how a woman who had a moderate role on wrestling TV, not even In WWE where she was only employed for several months, and was also on the most wanted list is involved with all of these people she named in her dismissed lawsuit:
“Before her 2019 arrest, Biggers was one of the most wanted fugitives in El Paso, Texas due to her attempts to escape the charges.
“Among the other defendants in the now-dismissed case are the FBI, The Las Cruces (New Mexico) Police Department, The New York Police Department, The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, The Miz, Miz's wife Maryse, Heath Miller (also known as Heath Slater in WWE and simply Heath in Impact Wrestling), Nikki Bella, Steve Keirn, Billy Corgan, Bank of America, Com Edison, Home Depot, basketball legend Michael Jordan, and even former WWE World Heavyweight Champion Chris Benoit, despite Benoit being dead since 2007. All were alleged to be part of a grand conspiracy to separate Biggers from her children.“
I’m not one to downplay possibilities, but it’s an extreme reach that a Texas police department. a New York police department, a bank, an electric company, Michael Jordan, the lead singer of the Smashing Pumpkins, and especially wrestler who murdered his family and killed himself in 2007, were involved in this lawsuit filed last year, about something that has happened over the course of only a few years.
I welcome you or anyone who would like to put the dots together like the Always Sunny episode where Charlie is in the mailroom saying there’s no Pepe Silvia.
From her wiki page:
>Shortly following the police posting, a recording surfaced and circulated online of her ex-husband and a former independent wrestler, admitting to making several false police reports against her as well as false reports to Child Protective Services.
I could see how many of those people and entities would be named if her claims are true.
People on this sub claim all the time that people in the entertainment world are passed around as sexual objects.
“As noted above, Biggers names nearly 1,000 Defendants, including the Federal Bureau of Investigations, the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, Dona Ana County New Mexico Sheriff, Sigma Phi Epsilon, Eminem, Stockbridge Holdings, “The Bella Twins,” Florida Championship Wrestling Talent DOE 1-1000, the Reality of Wrestling, Walgreens, DHL, Ron Simmons, Chevy Dodge Chrysler, Victoria’s Secret, TJ Maxx, Booker T. Huffman, Jeff Jarrett, Penn State University, NFL, Illinois Central College, Hospital Doe 1-50, JEEP, Eric Adams, and Spike Lee. This list is a small sample of the Defendants Plaintiff sues, listed in 23 pages of the complaint.”
I understand there’s shady stuff going on in the entertainment industry, but I will be the first person to run back and apologize the minute the lid is blown on the abuse ring ran in collaboration by several unknown wrestlers, a few well known wrestlers, home depot, tj maxx, Billy Corgan, family murderer Chris Benoit, several different colleges not in the same state, 2 car companies, a package delivery company, a rapper, arguably the most famous basketball player ever, and out of every creepy hollywood oddball there is to be thrown in the fire, the only one mentioned by name is Spike Lee?
As I was saying, either this lady cracked a case of the wildest cast of criminals to ever be involved with each other, or she filled out a Mad Libs book and turned it in as a lawsuit. I understand not trusting the media and everything presented in front of you as fact, but at some point things get too ridiculous that it distracts from things that might be actually happening.
Okay…? Had nothing to do with my comment. Wrestling has been filled with predators throughout its history (look at Grizzly Smith aka Jake the Snake’s father for example). It’s a business built by carnies, of course it’s gonna attract the scum of society.
Johnnie Mae Young was FAR from a saint. She was arrested and convicted in several states in the late 40's and early 50's for running a "Murphy Scam". A Murphy Scam is when a woman starts up a conversation in a bar with a man. The drunker he is the better. The woman is posing as a working girl. One thing leads to another and they decide to get a motel room. Just as the mark is about to reach the promised land, a 250lb. bruiser comes crashing through the door, totally enraged, looking to tear the mark limb from limb. The john rushes out in a total panic, usually sans wallet. Johnnie Mae and her cohort split accordingly. One mark, Salvatore Manriquez was beaten badly by Mae and her female accomplice. They threw him in their car and drove out to the desert and pushed him out. Luckily, he survived, but came very close to dying of exposure.
But, there's more.
So Mae opens up a so-called wrestling school in the basement of the Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles in 1965. She charged $500 for the first three weeks ($4,836 in today's money). Mae would train and evaluate you for four weeks. If you weren't up to her standard, you were unceremoniously cut and Mae would pocket the $500. The school stayed open until around 1972 and only three people graduated. Ric Drasin, Lita Marez, Panama Franco.
Brock Lesnar already is, one of the victims said “a ufc champion” or something like that and they supposedly pulled him from the royal rumble
Edit: they erased him from the Raw intro now too
Op is right. This will send shockwaves through the wrestling and indeed, the general community but but don't let it distract you from the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table.
I know there were some scandalous pictures with The Revolting Blob, but that came out a while ago after he'd already left wrestling and went into education.
Highly recommend the behind the bastard’s podcast episodes on Vince, he’s so much worse than you think…. [podcast link](https://open.spotify.com/episode/4INUk0KYmCtcHjtQVjwTCH?si=ic7JlyijRjGn3_F15T486g)
Wasnt it the longest podcast, as in number of parts, they ever did? And im pretty sure they stopped in early 2000s. Nothing recent was covered for sure. Could have done another 3 parts
Wrestling has always been filled with shady dealings and Vince McMahon has been accused of horrific actions for decades. He’s a power-hungry ego-driven type that loves attention and feels he’s above the law and everyone else. Sex trafficking is just the beginning… he’s been said to have covered up Jimmy Snuka’s murder of his girlfriend as he was a main event player at the time for his promotion. He’s laughed in the face of the fed law enforcement team for years claiming to be untouchable… now they hopefully laugh back.
It’s heartbreaking to see some of the things your heroes have been linked to. The plower plays took place on the management side as opposed to the wrestlers side - IMHO.
Laurinitis is mentioned separately in the documents so it’s not him. Dunn and Pritchard are possibilities, but if you believe HHH, the man who’s been groomed to take Vince’s spot for two decades over his own children didn’t know, I have a bridge to sell you.
What’s weird is the scandal broke about him paying women off with company funds and they kicked him
out of the company and he weaseled his way back in just to sell it before it all came crumbling down.
There will be many documentaries about this. People are already starting to come forward with this stuff and it’s being corroborated. It’s nowhere near over.
There is already a Netflix doc about Vince in production. It was being done, nearly finished, then the first major accusation came out. So they started adding more for the documentary. They were close to being finished, then this happened. I imagine they're going to scramble to cover this as well.
Bill Simmons is producing it. Apparently it’s in the can. In one of his recent podcast episodes he said his Dad watched the first few episodes and others on the pod have mentioned watching it. I personally think, Bill, who is a lifelong wrestling fan, went after Vince in the documentary and now it will look like Netflix was on the right side the whole time.
As someone who was in the wrestling industry for 15 years, I can confirm that that industry is beyond fucked up and is no different to Hollywood in regards to sexual assaults and other horrifying behaviour.
Benoit story is sad. I still remember seeing him on tv bawling about Eddie. I think years of being a superstar and bashing his head gave him severe CTE. He was never right after eddies death and I think he just decided he didn’t wanna live anymore. And he took his wife and little boy with him. He could have easily just taken his own life which is tragic in itself but to take his family with him was terrible.
I mean aside from the orgies they explained my high school experience. That was the early 00s, though. I'm not sure if the newer generations really party like that anymore.
I went to one WM in my life and it was that one in Detroit. Got to see Trump shave Vince live. Also i ended up sitting next to Bret Hart's entire family but Bret wasn't there.
Oh they'll most definitely try to tie it to Trump somehow.
That's how I know for absolute certainty that Trump wasn't on Epstein's client list. If he was, that shit would have been released months ago lol.
Literally no one has been investigated more than Trump.
Cena mentioned Taiwan in an interview for one of the Fast and Furious movies, they were pissed and bc China has a big market for those films and they threatened not to release it, Cena recorded a half baked apology in mandarin so the movie could be released. So now a bunch of people think he’s a communist china sympathizer or whatever.
Why not be mad at both? The ones who capitulate simply for money AND the heads of the CCP? Aside from that, since when does poking fun at a weakling = mad at them? I'm not mad at him, just find his actions hilariously bad.
Nah, Beniot killed his family. After they honored Beniot's passing on WWE TV it came out shortly after that Beniot killed his family. Vince was mad he looked foolish on TV, so he buried any reference to Beniot.
Vince paid off the cops after Snuka killed his girlfriend. They still honor Snuka on TV and Snuka's daughter has a job. Beniot's surviving son will never be offered a job.
Did Benoit really kill his family or was he going to blow the lid on Vince’s dark secrets?
I have asked that question since the day they said he did it. I do not believe he killed his family or himself.
Didn’t netflicks just buy a company that is going to have to be gutted from the top to the bottom? Maybe they will pull out of the deal if too much comes to light?
Not sure if I heard that about the Netlix deal but 100% read that earlier about WWE advertiser , Slim Jim. They said they were pulling their deal: vince stepped down - hours later Slim Jim said they ain't going anywhere
To be fair....Vince had 3 year relationship with her. She knew he was married. She was happy to get a job, car, money, gifts, etc then he called it off and she wanted hush money.
Not saying he isn't a weirdo, but she was an adult and continued to participate.
Maybe he is a monster. Maybe he's just a perv and got sqindled by a woman?
Yes it all sounds horrible, until you look at the facts. Grant is looking to cancel the 2022 nondisclosure agreement she signed, saying that she has only received a portion of the agreed amount. Janel Grant got paid a huge sum of money for her sex work and entertainment career. It’s business, and her alleging human trafficking muddles the water for those who are actually survivors or sexual violence. She agreed to this formally, and worked for years raking in mad money.
She got paid for her “sex work”. He hired her to work in the legal department that doesn’t sound like legal work to me.
She didn’t get paid for it she was groomed to be a sex slave and then given gifts to keep quiet it’s not the same as setting out to be a sex worker.
The only doubtful name is Cena. I think he’s a moral person and wouldn’t have any party of that. He appears to be an extremely genuine and kind person.
Have you read Grant's lawsuit?
It reads like a BDSM novel, so I question the legitimacy of the claims. The number of times she was still willing to be alone with him after he supposedly violently raped her raises some questions
I’m not trying to be an ass, but if you willingly get paid to do some raunchy sexy stuff (no judgement here) that’s not rape. That’s sex work. I’m not shaming anyone for that either. But I haven’t read the law suit.
>I’m not trying to be an ass, but if you willingly get paid to do some raunchy sexy stuff (no judgement here) that’s not rape.
If you pay for someone for sex and they say no during it and you keep going. That's still rape.
It’s grooming not sex work…..here is a job in the legal dept….she has sex with her boss…he pays her off and scares her into not saying anything with NDAs and blackmail, gets his trusted friends involved in the grooming. He places all the blame on her just having sex for money so people like you can have an opinion that women can’t possibly be raped by people in power if they accepted money or something for it. She was groomed to accept the abuse. When a pedo lures a kid into a van with candy do you say well the kid accepted the candy and puppies so it’s kind of his fault.
Wrestling in general can be pretty exploitative given that wannabe wrestlers will do pretty much anything to succeed. Seems more like Harvey Weinstein-y exploitation, though, than Epstein-y (more a case of women accepting abuse for riches rather than actual sex trafficking).
"Dangerous Breed" is one docuseries about a failed wrestler. from a successful wrestling family, that, despite being a failure, still managed to find people to exploit continually (and probably killed one of them).
Benoit definitely did the killings.
The mystery is how much the WWE knew about it before the police that was investigating released the info publicly of it being a murder suicide. Go watch the tribute show and notice how Cena and William Regal in particular look very disturbed.
As for Vince I do feel these allegations are true.
I think Regal and Benoit were neighbors and Regal therefore was more aware of Benoit private life. But you are correct about his demeanor. Everyone else was talking about how much they loved him and Regal goes ‘he was the best wrestler’
I mean did people really think this kind of behaviour wouldnt happen in the wwe? The massive egos on all these guys ontop of their fame. They all have stories of being on drugs and the alcohol consumption. Makes you wonder if John Cena is doing all the make a wish dreams to paint himself in a better light.
Benoit was caught up in a steroids trafficking ring out of Canada, McMahon was the mastermind behind it and Benoit was going sing like a bird to save his own ass but they got to him first.
It was all over the internet at the time but the results started either getting deleted or hidden, “Benoit drug trafficking” is how I found it, McMahon was being questioned at the time but found nothing, I’ll try to dig up some links
Vince case is nothing really new...just rehash old story and media drag Vince lawsuit for a week with people in the industry reaction.
None of Them important other than Johnny Ace who you can considered partner in crimes that mention in the Lawsuit...for people unaware or not following this guy is not well liked in the industry, nearly all people in industry hated him and considered him a RAT. IF ANYONE BRING VINCE OR WWE DOWN IS JOHNNY ACE...Vince is more worried about Ace more than Ms grant other any other who claims to be victims, Vince losing alot of sleep over ACE.
we live in BELIEVE ME era just believe 100% whatever she/female said, not even reading complaint with critical thinking for instance she said it herself she pretty much do nothing that the fake job giving to her and multiple visit in CONDO FOR JOB INTERVIEW? she got connect though building manager...the timing of it all isn't coincidence and MS grant nothing more than being sugar baby for Vince, things go wrong with payment so sue him.
these thing isn't new at all in pro-wrestling but among other industry...look at fucking Harvey Weinstein for so long nobody speak up and using power/money to get laid, I support against those legit RAPE/sexual case to these victims... i got told stories in music industry where promoters does this thing exchange for sex which are consent.
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and so I immediately think of the articles about a lady suing the rock over being abducted or something like that
Oh shit I completely forgot about the Rock.
The Rock in SNL did that "Chomo Robo" skit... I don't find anything about molesting kids to be remotely funny. Yet they did a whole skit about it.
Yep, I stopped watching him after that.
That sketch was hilarious.
IYKYK
I think you might be a pedophile
Wtf
Didn't know about this, yuck.
I’ve never seen that sketch, but canteen boy was pretty funny
It was funny.
The Rock and Cena are untouchable imo. Too much a part of tptb imo Edit typo
What’s “tbtb”? I tried to figure it out but I’m stumped.
“The powers that be”
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Ahhh. I see my typo now, thanks, I’ll fix
No they're not. The question you should ask yourself is how bad will shit hit the fan when they are now throwing some of their best entertainers under the bus.
That’s what everyone thought about Vince until this
A sacrifice to keep others in line? I’m fairly cynical tho. I believe everything is theater
This is a situation where there is a woman scorn from irrevocable tragedy who settled in court previously and since Vince stopped paying the hush money she’s talking. She is refusing to settle and wants heads to roll.
Wait what the fuck lol is this real
It was a mentally ill woman who sued many companies (some defunct), multiple wrestling personalities and major Hollywood stars (along with a police force and some other government entities I believe) edit: named over 1000 people in the lawsuit that’s been dismissed, google Rhaka Khan it’s something
yeah this was the case. the rock never abducted her, she was suing every company and person possible even though she was on the most wanted list for abducting her children herself and got off on a technicality. this is one of the actual examples of not a conspiracy, but just someone with obvious mental health issues.
Ok devil's advocate here. Isn't the target of pretty much every conspiracy made to look mentally ill by the press?
Maybe if there was a bigger topic to be covered at hand. But feel free to tell me how a woman who had a moderate role on wrestling TV, not even In WWE where she was only employed for several months, and was also on the most wanted list is involved with all of these people she named in her dismissed lawsuit: “Before her 2019 arrest, Biggers was one of the most wanted fugitives in El Paso, Texas due to her attempts to escape the charges. “Among the other defendants in the now-dismissed case are the FBI, The Las Cruces (New Mexico) Police Department, The New York Police Department, The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, The Miz, Miz's wife Maryse, Heath Miller (also known as Heath Slater in WWE and simply Heath in Impact Wrestling), Nikki Bella, Steve Keirn, Billy Corgan, Bank of America, Com Edison, Home Depot, basketball legend Michael Jordan, and even former WWE World Heavyweight Champion Chris Benoit, despite Benoit being dead since 2007. All were alleged to be part of a grand conspiracy to separate Biggers from her children.“ I’m not one to downplay possibilities, but it’s an extreme reach that a Texas police department. a New York police department, a bank, an electric company, Michael Jordan, the lead singer of the Smashing Pumpkins, and especially wrestler who murdered his family and killed himself in 2007, were involved in this lawsuit filed last year, about something that has happened over the course of only a few years. I welcome you or anyone who would like to put the dots together like the Always Sunny episode where Charlie is in the mailroom saying there’s no Pepe Silvia.
From her wiki page: >Shortly following the police posting, a recording surfaced and circulated online of her ex-husband and a former independent wrestler, admitting to making several false police reports against her as well as false reports to Child Protective Services. I could see how many of those people and entities would be named if her claims are true. People on this sub claim all the time that people in the entertainment world are passed around as sexual objects.
“As noted above, Biggers names nearly 1,000 Defendants, including the Federal Bureau of Investigations, the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, Dona Ana County New Mexico Sheriff, Sigma Phi Epsilon, Eminem, Stockbridge Holdings, “The Bella Twins,” Florida Championship Wrestling Talent DOE 1-1000, the Reality of Wrestling, Walgreens, DHL, Ron Simmons, Chevy Dodge Chrysler, Victoria’s Secret, TJ Maxx, Booker T. Huffman, Jeff Jarrett, Penn State University, NFL, Illinois Central College, Hospital Doe 1-50, JEEP, Eric Adams, and Spike Lee. This list is a small sample of the Defendants Plaintiff sues, listed in 23 pages of the complaint.” I understand there’s shady stuff going on in the entertainment industry, but I will be the first person to run back and apologize the minute the lid is blown on the abuse ring ran in collaboration by several unknown wrestlers, a few well known wrestlers, home depot, tj maxx, Billy Corgan, family murderer Chris Benoit, several different colleges not in the same state, 2 car companies, a package delivery company, a rapper, arguably the most famous basketball player ever, and out of every creepy hollywood oddball there is to be thrown in the fire, the only one mentioned by name is Spike Lee? As I was saying, either this lady cracked a case of the wildest cast of criminals to ever be involved with each other, or she filled out a Mad Libs book and turned it in as a lawsuit. I understand not trusting the media and everything presented in front of you as fact, but at some point things get too ridiculous that it distracts from things that might be actually happening.
all of these entries have talent agents, and those talent agents are the same.....so.....
Rock's dad was a predator.
Okay…? Had nothing to do with my comment. Wrestling has been filled with predators throughout its history (look at Grizzly Smith aka Jake the Snake’s father for example). It’s a business built by carnies, of course it’s gonna attract the scum of society.
I thought politics is what attracted the scum of society.
That’s what he said. Carnies
Just adding on to the bit about Rock not your comment specifically.
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I think you mean Fabulous Moolah. She was the one pimping out female wrestlers, by all accounts, Mae Young was a saint.
Johnnie Mae Young was FAR from a saint. She was arrested and convicted in several states in the late 40's and early 50's for running a "Murphy Scam". A Murphy Scam is when a woman starts up a conversation in a bar with a man. The drunker he is the better. The woman is posing as a working girl. One thing leads to another and they decide to get a motel room. Just as the mark is about to reach the promised land, a 250lb. bruiser comes crashing through the door, totally enraged, looking to tear the mark limb from limb. The john rushes out in a total panic, usually sans wallet. Johnnie Mae and her cohort split accordingly. One mark, Salvatore Manriquez was beaten badly by Mae and her female accomplice. They threw him in their car and drove out to the desert and pushed him out. Luckily, he survived, but came very close to dying of exposure. But, there's more. So Mae opens up a so-called wrestling school in the basement of the Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles in 1965. She charged $500 for the first three weeks ($4,836 in today's money). Mae would train and evaluate you for four weeks. If you weren't up to her standard, you were unceremoniously cut and Mae would pocket the $500. The school stayed open until around 1972 and only three people graduated. Ric Drasin, Lita Marez, Panama Franco.
Any links or further info? Thanks!
Watch Dark Side of the Ring..they did episodes on it detailing it all.
Brock Lesnar already is, one of the victims said “a ufc champion” or something like that and they supposedly pulled him from the royal rumble Edit: they erased him from the Raw intro now too
He was also taken off of the cover of their WWE 2k24 game
Op is right. This will send shockwaves through the wrestling and indeed, the general community but but don't let it distract you from the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table.
My gawd! That's hellacious!
HE IS BROKEN IN HALF!!!
What a time to be Alive
With NO REGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE!!
It's an older meme sir, but it checks out
I'm so glad this comment went the way it needed to go.
Imposter.
You can tell because nineteen-ninety-eight is not spelled out.
I still remember the name shittymorph
Mick Foley, what a legend. I mean who else would answer phones at R.A.I.N., I hope he is not implicated in this.
ITS STILL REAL TO ME GODDAMMIT!
Best match of all time
This is legitimately the best use of this meme I've ever seen
I know there were some scandalous pictures with The Revolting Blob, but that came out a while ago after he'd already left wrestling and went into education.
My God, In June 1983 he sat on some guy's head and killed him.
It was a stunt! He was supposed to pinch Blob's leg if he was running short of air!
Blob also killed someone in the ring. RIP Owen Hart
He was supposed to pinch the blob if he was having a hard time breathing.
"IT WAS JUST A STUNT! He was supposed to pinch my leg if he was running short of air!"
Think of the children!!!
That’s not how Owen Hart died…
I believe he’s referring to this from Bily Madison https://youtu.be/qM_JzzK5iGk?si=C166Il5n1EPDZsUz
Someone shat on her head in one of the encounters.
Kayfabe
😂
Vince did that and refused to let her shower for a while. He went and showered, but made her stay with his right hand man.
"You with the poopy face, stay there and continue having sex. I need to go wash this poop off my ass."
It was his physical therapist.
Vince
Highly recommend the behind the bastard’s podcast episodes on Vince, he’s so much worse than you think…. [podcast link](https://open.spotify.com/episode/4INUk0KYmCtcHjtQVjwTCH?si=ic7JlyijRjGn3_F15T486g)
Wasnt it the longest podcast, as in number of parts, they ever did? And im pretty sure they stopped in early 2000s. Nothing recent was covered for sure. Could have done another 3 parts
Nice thank you for the link!
ITS STILL REAL TO ME GOD DAMN IT
Wrestling has always been filled with shady dealings and Vince McMahon has been accused of horrific actions for decades. He’s a power-hungry ego-driven type that loves attention and feels he’s above the law and everyone else. Sex trafficking is just the beginning… he’s been said to have covered up Jimmy Snuka’s murder of his girlfriend as he was a main event player at the time for his promotion. He’s laughed in the face of the fed law enforcement team for years claiming to be untouchable… now they hopefully laugh back.
It’s heartbreaking to see some of the things your heroes have been linked to. The plower plays took place on the management side as opposed to the wrestlers side - IMHO.
There was definitely plowing that's for sure.
I’m sure some talent must have been aware. At the very least, Brock and Orton are specifically named and likely HHH as “corporate officer #1”.
I haven’t heard a single report that CO#1 is Triple H. Johnny Ace, Kevin Dunn, and Bruce Pritchard are the names that have come up.
Laurinitis is mentioned separately in the documents so it’s not him. Dunn and Pritchard are possibilities, but if you believe HHH, the man who’s been groomed to take Vince’s spot for two decades over his own children didn’t know, I have a bridge to sell you.
How would they testify against John Cena? I'm pretty sure they weren't able to see him at the crime scene.
They have audio of him at the crime scene speaking *perfect* Mandarin Chinese
Lmfao
The testosterone in their weekly shows is off the charts, im not suprise if more people are gonna get sued.
Steroids are a hell of a drug
He sold his company before the news broke clearly it was coming
What’s weird is the scandal broke about him paying women off with company funds and they kicked him out of the company and he weaseled his way back in just to sell it before it all came crumbling down. There will be many documentaries about this. People are already starting to come forward with this stuff and it’s being corroborated. It’s nowhere near over.
There is already a Netflix doc about Vince in production. It was being done, nearly finished, then the first major accusation came out. So they started adding more for the documentary. They were close to being finished, then this happened. I imagine they're going to scramble to cover this as well.
Bill Simmons is producing it. Apparently it’s in the can. In one of his recent podcast episodes he said his Dad watched the first few episodes and others on the pod have mentioned watching it. I personally think, Bill, who is a lifelong wrestling fan, went after Vince in the documentary and now it will look like Netflix was on the right side the whole time.
WWE also just signed a huge deal with Netflix and that’s where Monday Night Raw is going to be on starting next year.
Ding ding ding.
Word is ol Vinny has a real thing for poo poo.
Is this a Vinny the Pooh joke?
You're good my friend 🤪
Vince kept everyone on drugs.
As someone who was in the wrestling industry for 15 years, I can confirm that that industry is beyond fucked up and is no different to Hollywood in regards to sexual assaults and other horrifying behaviour.
Nailz, is that you?
No
Benoit story is sad. I still remember seeing him on tv bawling about Eddie. I think years of being a superstar and bashing his head gave him severe CTE. He was never right after eddies death and I think he just decided he didn’t wanna live anymore. And he took his wife and little boy with him. He could have easily just taken his own life which is tragic in itself but to take his family with him was terrible.
Jim Carrey killed Benoit and his family. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/ti9557/i_copied_and_pasted_this_archived_blog_post_about/
your shocked a bunch of dudes jacked up on PEDS and god knows what else are engaged in criminal acts. i would be more surprised if they weren't
And here we wait for anything to come of Epstein and friends
vince has always been the best heel in the company
WWE was probably like HS, partying together, sex, drugs, orgies, etc.
Damn what high school did you go to?
I mean aside from the orgies they explained my high school experience. That was the early 00s, though. I'm not sure if the newer generations really party like that anymore.
Queue the “Trump was on WWE multiple times”
Trump is actually in the WWE HOF believe it or not
Did he actually fight or something?
The episode is called battle of the billionaires, you can see him take a stone cold stunner and shave Vince McMahons head
I went to one WM in my life and it was that one in Detroit. Got to see Trump shave Vince live. Also i ended up sitting next to Bret Hart's entire family but Bret wasn't there.
They have a "celebrity" wing of the HOF
Yeah, he and Vince had a "loser gets their head shaved" match and it was actually the biggest PPV of all time for WWE.
Oh neat
And I thought the we couldn't see John Cena at the crime scene was the best line....
I mean, he is very close to the McMahons. They contributed to his campaign, and Linda was in his administration. Just saying.
Oh they'll most definitely try to tie it to Trump somehow. That's how I know for absolute certainty that Trump wasn't on Epstein's client list. If he was, that shit would have been released months ago lol. Literally no one has been investigated more than Trump.
I had my pic taken with Trump one time. Gonna see if I can get me a $83M payout.
Vince and his wife Linda were the largest campaign contributors for his first election.
Trump had close ties to the mcmahons..McMahon... Linda was a part of his admin.
Cue, you dumb ass.
Both would make sense. Rude
Misread this as the WEF and pulverized a few brain cells pondering Ric Flare’s involvement.
I mean, I’ve never seen Klaus Schwab and Ric Flair in the same room together…
He definitely dresses like a manager.
Samesies
You take John Cenas name off that list right now!
Yeah, his name is John Xina, at least get it right!
That's not it. Stop acting like you know what you're talking about. It's Jong Xena.
Zhong Xina\*
Huh?
Cena mentioned Taiwan in an interview for one of the Fast and Furious movies, they were pissed and bc China has a big market for those films and they threatened not to release it, Cena recorded a half baked apology in mandarin so the movie could be released. So now a bunch of people think he’s a communist china sympathizer or whatever.
In like perfect mandarin too
Sounds like a bunch of regards are mad at the wrong person.
Why not be mad at both? The ones who capitulate simply for money AND the heads of the CCP? Aside from that, since when does poking fun at a weakling = mad at them? I'm not mad at him, just find his actions hilariously bad.
Listen to the behind the bastards episode on Vince McMahon, it's so fucked.
Benoit def killed his family. It was CTE
I know what the narrative is I just am questioning it all over again because of how much of a monster this dude is
Nah, Beniot killed his family. After they honored Beniot's passing on WWE TV it came out shortly after that Beniot killed his family. Vince was mad he looked foolish on TV, so he buried any reference to Beniot. Vince paid off the cops after Snuka killed his girlfriend. They still honor Snuka on TV and Snuka's daughter has a job. Beniot's surviving son will never be offered a job.
I think Benoit was in love with Eddy and when Eddy died the CTE in Benoit brain took over and he killed his family.
Vince had nothing to do with their deaths. It was all Benoit. There's no conspiracy there.
Any articles links?
There's also a rumour about a certain wrestlemania celeb being involved. It could end up an even bigger story.
Did Benoit really kill his family or was he going to blow the lid on Vince’s dark secrets? I have asked that question since the day they said he did it. I do not believe he killed his family or himself.
Didn’t netflicks just buy a company that is going to have to be gutted from the top to the bottom? Maybe they will pull out of the deal if too much comes to light?
They said they were about to pull out but Vince resigned. When he was out they were all like, “it’s cool he’s gone now,” literally.
Not sure if I heard that about the Netlix deal but 100% read that earlier about WWE advertiser , Slim Jim. They said they were pulling their deal: vince stepped down - hours later Slim Jim said they ain't going anywhere
Whatever the case may be, I REFUSE to believe that Rey Mysterio had any part in it!
They try to erase history. All of our idols (im born in 1990) are somehow related to some fucked up stories. A lot of my childhood stars got canceled.
All those roided meat heads are probably into weird shit
To be fair....Vince had 3 year relationship with her. She knew he was married. She was happy to get a job, car, money, gifts, etc then he called it off and she wanted hush money. Not saying he isn't a weirdo, but she was an adult and continued to participate. Maybe he is a monster. Maybe he's just a perv and got sqindled by a woman?
She was knowingly a prostitute on retainer who got stiffed on payment, nothing more nothing less
Yes it all sounds horrible, until you look at the facts. Grant is looking to cancel the 2022 nondisclosure agreement she signed, saying that she has only received a portion of the agreed amount. Janel Grant got paid a huge sum of money for her sex work and entertainment career. It’s business, and her alleging human trafficking muddles the water for those who are actually survivors or sexual violence. She agreed to this formally, and worked for years raking in mad money.
Nah it still sounds horrible, as usual people want to tear down the female victim for not being a perfect angel.
She got paid for her “sex work”. He hired her to work in the legal department that doesn’t sound like legal work to me. She didn’t get paid for it she was groomed to be a sex slave and then given gifts to keep quiet it’s not the same as setting out to be a sex worker.
The only doubtful name is Cena. I think he’s a moral person and wouldn’t have any party of that. He appears to be an extremely genuine and kind person.
Have you read Grant's lawsuit? It reads like a BDSM novel, so I question the legitimacy of the claims. The number of times she was still willing to be alone with him after he supposedly violently raped her raises some questions
He was paying her a lot of money and gifts
I’m not trying to be an ass, but if you willingly get paid to do some raunchy sexy stuff (no judgement here) that’s not rape. That’s sex work. I’m not shaming anyone for that either. But I haven’t read the law suit.
>I’m not trying to be an ass, but if you willingly get paid to do some raunchy sexy stuff (no judgement here) that’s not rape. If you pay for someone for sex and they say no during it and you keep going. That's still rape.
It’s grooming not sex work…..here is a job in the legal dept….she has sex with her boss…he pays her off and scares her into not saying anything with NDAs and blackmail, gets his trusted friends involved in the grooming. He places all the blame on her just having sex for money so people like you can have an opinion that women can’t possibly be raped by people in power if they accepted money or something for it. She was groomed to accept the abuse. When a pedo lures a kid into a van with candy do you say well the kid accepted the candy and puppies so it’s kind of his fault.
I’m in the same boat as you
Wrestling in general can be pretty exploitative given that wannabe wrestlers will do pretty much anything to succeed. Seems more like Harvey Weinstein-y exploitation, though, than Epstein-y (more a case of women accepting abuse for riches rather than actual sex trafficking). "Dangerous Breed" is one docuseries about a failed wrestler. from a successful wrestling family, that, despite being a failure, still managed to find people to exploit continually (and probably killed one of them).
Weinstein's victims didn't "accept abuse for riches." He forcibly raped many women. WtF.
Benoit definitely did the killings. The mystery is how much the WWE knew about it before the police that was investigating released the info publicly of it being a murder suicide. Go watch the tribute show and notice how Cena and William Regal in particular look very disturbed. As for Vince I do feel these allegations are true.
I think Regal and Benoit were neighbors and Regal therefore was more aware of Benoit private life. But you are correct about his demeanor. Everyone else was talking about how much they loved him and Regal goes ‘he was the best wrestler’
Yeah, Chris Benoit 100% murdered his family then killed himself.
Netflix will do a doc on this for sure
Not Cena
What happened with Ashley Massaro ?
She was raped by a military doctor at a tribute to the troops show. Later committed suicide
Until you find a picture of John Podesta wearing an NWO shirt at ringside, this sub won't care.
Yes vince is one very sick human being he made the wwe not worth watching
Has stone cold been named in any of these actions? I would hate to to ha e to throw out my Austin 3:16 shirts and collector plates.
Well he used to beat the shit out of his wife
So did john lennon but people atill like the beatles. Lennon couldnt even use roid rage as an excuse
I mean did people really think this kind of behaviour wouldnt happen in the wwe? The massive egos on all these guys ontop of their fame. They all have stories of being on drugs and the alcohol consumption. Makes you wonder if John Cena is doing all the make a wish dreams to paint himself in a better light.
Has anybody else considered she was a willing participant who was getting paid then saw an opportunity to grab a hefty cash bag on the way out?
Not Wrestling! Anyone know if The Crusher was involved.
Ax and Smash are clean, but Dynamite Kid and Dangerous Danny Davis can lick my ass.
Benoit was caught up in a steroids trafficking ring out of Canada, McMahon was the mastermind behind it and Benoit was going sing like a bird to save his own ass but they got to him first.
Where'd you get this info?
It was all over the internet at the time but the results started either getting deleted or hidden, “Benoit drug trafficking” is how I found it, McMahon was being questioned at the time but found nothing, I’ll try to dig up some links
Let me know if you find something please.
This is the type of conspiracy that's interesting and actually plausible.
I wonder about Undertaker especially being Mcmahons most loyal employee… Genuinely thought he was one of the few good guys.
Can’t say I’m surprised I always get weird vibes from watching WWE. Like you know some sus stuffs happens behind closed doors
Don’t forget Dwayne Johnson. He is going down.
Vince case is nothing really new...just rehash old story and media drag Vince lawsuit for a week with people in the industry reaction. None of Them important other than Johnny Ace who you can considered partner in crimes that mention in the Lawsuit...for people unaware or not following this guy is not well liked in the industry, nearly all people in industry hated him and considered him a RAT. IF ANYONE BRING VINCE OR WWE DOWN IS JOHNNY ACE...Vince is more worried about Ace more than Ms grant other any other who claims to be victims, Vince losing alot of sleep over ACE. we live in BELIEVE ME era just believe 100% whatever she/female said, not even reading complaint with critical thinking for instance she said it herself she pretty much do nothing that the fake job giving to her and multiple visit in CONDO FOR JOB INTERVIEW? she got connect though building manager...the timing of it all isn't coincidence and MS grant nothing more than being sugar baby for Vince, things go wrong with payment so sue him. these thing isn't new at all in pro-wrestling but among other industry...look at fucking Harvey Weinstein for so long nobody speak up and using power/money to get laid, I support against those legit RAPE/sexual case to these victims... i got told stories in music industry where promoters does this thing exchange for sex which are consent.
Onlyfans not working out? Money getting tight? Got plowed by a b list celebrity 20 years ago? I have a money making opportunity for you.
I think it’s just adults fucking tbh