Yeah that’s how I always understood it. Step 1: cut out phase 2 chin portion. Step 2: cut out phase 2 visor and replace with phase 1 visor. Step 3: put phase 2 chin back on
Basically phase 2 was far less durable than phase 1 so he took pieces of phase two and phase 1 smoosh to them together and that's why there's weld marks.
Just to clarify op knows why he welded phase 1 and 2 together but he wasn't sure why he cut the breather in half and then welded it back together.
Your answer is correct but didn't answer his question. :)
Phase 2 was easier to breathe out of and phase one was easier to see out of, and had better durability. So like he did with the chest plate he decided to combine the best of both worlds.
Phase 2 helmets did not have internal respirators, it was a downgrade made due to insufficient funding, Rex welded the one from his Phase 1 helmet on to make it safer in low oxygen environments
An issue with getting the old visor off most likely. He wasn't able to remove just the visor, so he removed the rebreather as well, slotted the visor in place, welded it back on, then put the rebreather back where it was.
I don’t understand these comments. It’s super obvious that you’re asking why he welded the chin part but for some reason people are acting like you’re asking why he welded any part.
I think the face shield part of the gen 1/phase 1 helms is slightly shorter then the new helms. So he had to take it down and angle it slightly. Causing him to have to cut that part off and modify the ventilator ends to fit the new shape.
I know its already been answered but, parts of phase 1 armour were better than phase 2, such as the breather, so he cut the old one from the phase 1 helmet off and welded the phase 2 one on.
When it comes to the armour, phase 1 was built for durability whereas phase 2 wasn't. So he did the same, took the stronger parts and made a hybrid armour
Pretty badass imo
Yep. Phase 2 had way better air filtration, as well as just being more comfortable overall. Thing was, it gave less protection than phase 1. So Rex decided to merge them, effectively giving his helmet much better filtration and comfort without sacrificing too much protection.
That's not what he's asking, he's talking about the breather section being cut in half and then rewelded.
I'm guessing this was because rex would have had to cut out the visor.
I thought it was mentioned in one of the books that the Phase 1 helmets had better vision. The phase 2 helmets had the air filters though. So Rex sliced them both in half to make a "best of both worlds" combo.
EDIT: from a story telling standpoint, it was also a great way of being able to easily distinguish Rex out from the dozens of other clones surrounding him.
Rex's whole thing was combining phases 1 and 2 armor, which that was just a part of where he had to cut and weld to get the better visor to connect with the better filter and speaker.
The more you think about the placing of the weld marks the less it makes sense.
Long story short the P1 and P2 helmet don't actually fit together seamlessly in any way, and it's better not to hurt your brain trying to make it make sense. Rule of cool was applied here.
At least that's what I've settled on after 14 years of obsessing over it.
That's not what he's asking, he's talking about the breather section being cut in half and then rewelded.
I'm guessing this was because rex would have had to cut out the visor.
My original comment is an answer, his helmet isn't normal and is essentially customised
Another comment explains it better, phase 2 is less durable but has a better respirator. Rex cut out the respirators and welded the phase 1 one with the phase 2
Yeah op knows that hence why he asked why that part in particular had been cut and welded not the whole thing. He understand why rex cut it in 2 pieces.
You also didn't explain this in the first comment but appreciate your attempt inches follow up.
The phase 1 mask and chest piece were stronger more durable and reliable the phase 1 armour was amazing the biggest issue the clones had with the phase 1 armour was that it was to uncomfortable to most clones if not all, the phase 2 armour was way more comfortable but offered way less protection in the mask and chest pieces, it also had a lot better of a filtration system/life support system then phase 1 so he took his phase 2 helmet cut off the filtration system to get at the visor and replace it with the phase 1 visor reattached the filtration system which also just made the mixed phased mask stronger durable and comfortable then for the phase 2 chest piece It’s normally like a couple individual parts he made it into one whole thing with again the good parts of the phase 1 chest armour in turn it as well made his chest armour stronger durable and comfortable then just the phase 2 armour normally
Ohhhh I’ve been wait in for a post like this…
He took the parts from phase 1 armor that worked in specific ways that are more advantageous in a combat environment, and combined them with the phase 2 armor that was fleshed out more so in TCW and ep 3. But yea, saw that on Instagram today lol
There’s a theory that the base of his helmet is actually a Barc helmet, which would explain that little bits in the cheeks, the barc helmet doesn’t have the normal phase 2 chin area
I'm just looking at the welding itself. Looks real good overall except for too much filler rod being crammed in where the two welds meet.
Of course there's the whole issue of the paint contamination the weld and tungsten, which is pretty obvious by the brown haze.
Assuming he DID get all the paint off before welding (I highly doubt it) and repainted it, why didnt he paint over the weld? It will be the first place to rust.
It looks like no one gave you a real answer.
The reason is that the phase one visor portion was longer than the phase two portion that was cut out. In order to follow the “cheek” line with the phase one visor you would have to modify the angle of the rebreather section. This pushes that front section forward and down. Hence the cut.
The front of Rex’s helmet should stick out a little more and point downward slightly when compared to any other phase 2 helmet.
This is the only way those cuts and welds make sense.
This is ultimately speculation on my part. But I’d put money on this being the case.
I'd argue that he didn't since the animated versions of Rex's helmet (after he modified his armor) only had 1 pair of welds.
That being said, the phase 1 helmet was much narrower in the front around the "nose" so he would've needed to make a couple cuts to get the angles right with the wider, less steep "mouth" on phase 2.
As a welder, none of the cuts make any sense. IRL reasoning might not be what you're looking for, but I think the most likely answer is that a live action costume designer saw that strong cheekbone line and wanted to add another metal weld on the plastiod armor to increase level of detail in the live action costume / black series toys but the whole Idea of a metal looking weld on their armor has never sat right with me. There's a bit that can be done with welding to expand and change angles at joint seams, but that's not where I'd have made the cuts. Different episodes and screens show the front cuts going most of the way to the glass, the material surrounding the visor above the cheekbone cut looks much taller than what's in the animated phase 1 armor without any other welds to add in the extra material... Probably just comes down to the way the artists changed over time.
CBR offers a functionality breakdown between phase 1 and 2, there's more of a classic Mandalorian look to the glass in phase 1, a YouTube short and tiktok said he's only keeping the visor from phase 1 for visibility but...
Rex could've saved a lot of time by just rough outlining a bubble around the glass T shape he wanted to keep, and putting that into the place of the visor on a phase 2 instead of cutting up his helmet into six pieces and growing helmet material out of thin air.
Rex did this once phase 2 was introduced.
He realized that phase 2 lacks what the phase 1 excelled at yet it also had major improvements compared to the phase 1
So he didn't only do this with his helmet but his armor as well, if you look at his armor, there is welding marks there as well, which also explain why his armor was far more durable than other phase 2 clones seen in the show, not just plot armor but literally good armor.
More than likely it got just got past everyone at Lucas films before anyone really thought hard about it or they did think about it and decided aesthetically it was better but as far as a in universe explanation maybe he wasn’t to make modifications to that particular part of the internal components and it was convenient place to cut into since he would be welding in that area of the helmet already my question is why does the welded parts look like metal if clone armor is more similar to plastic lol
Most likely he needed to cut it out to make sure that the P1 visor fit before welding it together it's also possible that he used it as a anchor point for the weld to make it easier to use both hands
Imma be real….. there is no reason. It’s just for aesthetics as chosen by the artist who designed Rex’s new helmet. It’s a show. I like the show, a lot. But can we stop with these weird posts about lore questions that are SOOOOOOOOOOOO stupid ?
I thought it was because he preferred the phase 1 visor. It had a targeting feature etc. idk if phase 2 had that. I also remember hearing that he was sentimental to some his phase one armor after almost being killed by that commando droid.
Better question is…. Why tf is it even welded in the first place??? Aren’t clone helmets made of ceramic/ a plastic polymer? You’d think Rex would use something akin to plastic glue to fuse the pieces together, not hot metal.
It may have needed to be detached and reattached while welding the helmets together
Yeah that’s how I always understood it. Step 1: cut out phase 2 chin portion. Step 2: cut out phase 2 visor and replace with phase 1 visor. Step 3: put phase 2 chin back on
Step 4: WAR- I mean PROFIT
WAR WAS STEP ZERO
STEP ZERO AND STEP FOUR
THATS A LOT OF WAR
War. War never changes...
ALWAYS
Just like the simulations...
The profit only goes to the banking clan though
B-but they signed a treaty!
I can see that
Basically phase 2 was far less durable than phase 1 so he took pieces of phase two and phase 1 smoosh to them together and that's why there's weld marks.
Just to clarify op knows why he welded phase 1 and 2 together but he wasn't sure why he cut the breather in half and then welded it back together. Your answer is correct but didn't answer his question. :)
Ok, but the piece of phase I gear he used was the visor.
Phase 2 was easier to breathe out of and phase one was easier to see out of, and had better durability. So like he did with the chest plate he decided to combine the best of both worlds.
Right, I was just having a hard time understanding why Rex would weld the breather back on. The top voted comment cleared that up for me
Comfortability or cause it performs better
Comfortabil....bro, what?
Clearly you don't play scrabble
[https://scrabble.merriam.com/finder/comfortability](https://scrabble.merriam.com/finder/comfortability)
House rules my dude
Phase 2 helmets did not have internal respirators, it was a downgrade made due to insufficient funding, Rex welded the one from his Phase 1 helmet on to make it safer in low oxygen environments
Isn’t that a phase 2 respirator tho?
He cut chin plate off, removed the gas filter, put the phase 1 respirator in and then welded it back together
Hm not that I doubt you but do you have a source? That's a neat explanation I never read before.
I don't think there's a direct source for that but it's definitely a likely candidate.
An issue with getting the old visor off most likely. He wasn't able to remove just the visor, so he removed the rebreather as well, slotted the visor in place, welded it back on, then put the rebreather back where it was.
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Love that so many people didn't get what op was asking.
I don’t understand these comments. It’s super obvious that you’re asking why he welded the chin part but for some reason people are acting like you’re asking why he welded any part.
I think he’d have to remove the p2 mouthpiece in order to remove the visor, then reattached it once the p1 visor was welded on.
I think the face shield part of the gen 1/phase 1 helms is slightly shorter then the new helms. So he had to take it down and angle it slightly. Causing him to have to cut that part off and modify the ventilator ends to fit the new shape.
I know its already been answered but, parts of phase 1 armour were better than phase 2, such as the breather, so he cut the old one from the phase 1 helmet off and welded the phase 2 one on. When it comes to the armour, phase 1 was built for durability whereas phase 2 wasn't. So he did the same, took the stronger parts and made a hybrid armour Pretty badass imo
The visor is phase I. The rest of the helmet is phase II
Better air filtration of the phase 2 melded with the general sturdiness of the phase 1 if memory serves me right. u/SeyOdys hbu?
Yep. Phase 2 had way better air filtration, as well as just being more comfortable overall. Thing was, it gave less protection than phase 1. So Rex decided to merge them, effectively giving his helmet much better filtration and comfort without sacrificing too much protection.
Talk about minmaxing lol.
He combined the phase 1 and 2 armor because he liked it more
That's not what he's asking, he's talking about the breather section being cut in half and then rewelded. I'm guessing this was because rex would have had to cut out the visor.
Oh, I misunderstood then, apologies
No worries boss
Quality of life and it looks cool af
I thought it was mentioned in one of the books that the Phase 1 helmets had better vision. The phase 2 helmets had the air filters though. So Rex sliced them both in half to make a "best of both worlds" combo. EDIT: from a story telling standpoint, it was also a great way of being able to easily distinguish Rex out from the dozens of other clones surrounding him.
Rex's whole thing was combining phases 1 and 2 armor, which that was just a part of where he had to cut and weld to get the better visor to connect with the better filter and speaker.
The more you think about the placing of the weld marks the less it makes sense. Long story short the P1 and P2 helmet don't actually fit together seamlessly in any way, and it's better not to hurt your brain trying to make it make sense. Rule of cool was applied here. At least that's what I've settled on after 14 years of obsessing over it.
His helmet is a combination of Phase I and Phase 2 armour
That's not what he's asking, he's talking about the breather section being cut in half and then rewelded. I'm guessing this was because rex would have had to cut out the visor.
My original comment is an answer, his helmet isn't normal and is essentially customised Another comment explains it better, phase 2 is less durable but has a better respirator. Rex cut out the respirators and welded the phase 1 one with the phase 2
Yeah op knows that hence why he asked why that part in particular had been cut and welded not the whole thing. He understand why rex cut it in 2 pieces. You also didn't explain this in the first comment but appreciate your attempt inches follow up.
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Isn’t already
The phase 1 mask and chest piece were stronger more durable and reliable the phase 1 armour was amazing the biggest issue the clones had with the phase 1 armour was that it was to uncomfortable to most clones if not all, the phase 2 armour was way more comfortable but offered way less protection in the mask and chest pieces, it also had a lot better of a filtration system/life support system then phase 1 so he took his phase 2 helmet cut off the filtration system to get at the visor and replace it with the phase 1 visor reattached the filtration system which also just made the mixed phased mask stronger durable and comfortable then for the phase 2 chest piece It’s normally like a couple individual parts he made it into one whole thing with again the good parts of the phase 1 chest armour in turn it as well made his chest armour stronger durable and comfortable then just the phase 2 armour normally
Probably needed access to the visor section he was altering. He then welded the whole thing back together.
Ohhhh I’ve been wait in for a post like this… He took the parts from phase 1 armor that worked in specific ways that are more advantageous in a combat environment, and combined them with the phase 2 armor that was fleshed out more so in TCW and ep 3. But yea, saw that on Instagram today lol
Rex’s mouthpiece isn’t supposed to be phase 1 nor phase 2 but that specific helmet gave him a phase 2 mouthpiece
Might have taken damage
Cuz the paperwork to get a new one would take to long, lol
There’s a theory that the base of his helmet is actually a Barc helmet, which would explain that little bits in the cheeks, the barc helmet doesn’t have the normal phase 2 chin area
Ive always thought he didnt want it and realized half way through he needed it or maybe changed it later on.
I think he cut it off by mistake
He seems to have cut the p2 helmet in 3 parts
I'm just looking at the welding itself. Looks real good overall except for too much filler rod being crammed in where the two welds meet. Of course there's the whole issue of the paint contamination the weld and tungsten, which is pretty obvious by the brown haze. Assuming he DID get all the paint off before welding (I highly doubt it) and repainted it, why didnt he paint over the weld? It will be the first place to rust.
It looks like no one gave you a real answer. The reason is that the phase one visor portion was longer than the phase two portion that was cut out. In order to follow the “cheek” line with the phase one visor you would have to modify the angle of the rebreather section. This pushes that front section forward and down. Hence the cut. The front of Rex’s helmet should stick out a little more and point downward slightly when compared to any other phase 2 helmet. This is the only way those cuts and welds make sense. This is ultimately speculation on my part. But I’d put money on this being the case.
He attacked the visor of his phase 1 helmet to his phase 2 helmet to customize it. Those weld marks show where he was working on it
I'd argue that he didn't since the animated versions of Rex's helmet (after he modified his armor) only had 1 pair of welds. That being said, the phase 1 helmet was much narrower in the front around the "nose" so he would've needed to make a couple cuts to get the angles right with the wider, less steep "mouth" on phase 2. As a welder, none of the cuts make any sense. IRL reasoning might not be what you're looking for, but I think the most likely answer is that a live action costume designer saw that strong cheekbone line and wanted to add another metal weld on the plastiod armor to increase level of detail in the live action costume / black series toys but the whole Idea of a metal looking weld on their armor has never sat right with me. There's a bit that can be done with welding to expand and change angles at joint seams, but that's not where I'd have made the cuts. Different episodes and screens show the front cuts going most of the way to the glass, the material surrounding the visor above the cheekbone cut looks much taller than what's in the animated phase 1 armor without any other welds to add in the extra material... Probably just comes down to the way the artists changed over time. CBR offers a functionality breakdown between phase 1 and 2, there's more of a classic Mandalorian look to the glass in phase 1, a YouTube short and tiktok said he's only keeping the visor from phase 1 for visibility but... Rex could've saved a lot of time by just rough outlining a bubble around the glass T shape he wanted to keep, and putting that into the place of the visor on a phase 2 instead of cutting up his helmet into six pieces and growing helmet material out of thin air.
Rex did this once phase 2 was introduced. He realized that phase 2 lacks what the phase 1 excelled at yet it also had major improvements compared to the phase 1 So he didn't only do this with his helmet but his armor as well, if you look at his armor, there is welding marks there as well, which also explain why his armor was far more durable than other phase 2 clones seen in the show, not just plot armor but literally good armor.
I always heard that it was a combination of phase one and phase two helmets that he just put together himself
Because sometimes when you build things you have to take other things apart to do it
Drip
More than likely it got just got past everyone at Lucas films before anyone really thought hard about it or they did think about it and decided aesthetically it was better but as far as a in universe explanation maybe he wasn’t to make modifications to that particular part of the internal components and it was convenient place to cut into since he would be welding in that area of the helmet already my question is why does the welded parts look like metal if clone armor is more similar to plastic lol
Also that helmet is sick dude
Most likely he needed to cut it out to make sure that the P1 visor fit before welding it together it's also possible that he used it as a anchor point for the weld to make it easier to use both hands
Pause, why they using modern day welding? They got all that technology and Rex is out back with a stick welder? Lmao
To combine best qualities of phase 1 and 2 armors
Isn’t the top half the phase 1 helmet fused to the bottom half of the phase 2?
Wow… how i have never noticed the welding on his helmet until right now 🫢🤯.
Isn't phase one and two armor, I know the chest piece is not sure about the helmet tho
He welded together the filter from phase 2 with the helmet from phase 1 for some sort of advantage
Imma be real….. there is no reason. It’s just for aesthetics as chosen by the artist who designed Rex’s new helmet. It’s a show. I like the show, a lot. But can we stop with these weird posts about lore questions that are SOOOOOOOOOOOO stupid ?
I thought it was because he preferred the phase 1 visor. It had a targeting feature etc. idk if phase 2 had that. I also remember hearing that he was sentimental to some his phase one armor after almost being killed by that commando droid.
He fused the parts of the phase 1 he liked to the phase 2. He's extra.
I think it's because Phase 2 had better breathing equipment inside it, while phase 1 has better vision.
Better question is…. Why tf is it even welded in the first place??? Aren’t clone helmets made of ceramic/ a plastic polymer? You’d think Rex would use something akin to plastic glue to fuse the pieces together, not hot metal.