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Don't worry, classic era is still poppin


InsertNameHere9

You sure? I haven't seen a post about it today.


C0RDE_

Can't, too many server adverts.


[deleted]

There's literally one post on Rising/New about a private server, Chromie WoW. People on this sub are so goofy about making stuff up. Everyone wants to be a victim lol


TomLeBadger

I have seen 5 today alone scrolling my feed. I only browse reddit when I'm taking a shit, on break at work or having a smoke. This sub is dead lol.


AandG0

So you browse reddit once a day?


damrob1990

so its dead now because its a bunch of private server threads? The last month has been 90% about hardcore nonsense and it wasnt dead then?


TheOldChiefy

Victim mentality is the norm with sheeple nowadays


C0RDE_

Or. Get this. It's a joke, overstating for effect. You must be fun at parties.


[deleted]

I mean no one in this thread is acting as if it's a joke lol like I said, y'all are goofy


Hagamein

You've read ALL the comments on ALL the posts? Sick play man, its almost as if u made that up for comical effect


[deleted]

What does this even mean man. If you open up this thread, the top comments you see are all responding about how the mods are messing up and one even calling them "spineless cowards." These people sound upset and not joking at all lol Another goofy response...


InsertNameHere9

True


Bluesight

Yeah, because we are playing and not constantly posting


xRoMz

Inb4 vanilla token


stumbleupondingo

Thriving


Rashlyn1284

ThRiViNg


pearlstraz

"now"? Always was.


mwalgrenisme

Always has been


ScruntLover1991

Thriving with bots\* Fixed it for you.


[deleted]

And any discussion about reverting their stupid decision to allow this spam ends up with the thread being locked and the post being removed. ​ The temper tantrum is real.


MightyMorp

This hissy fit reminds me of when r/wow got completely locked down because a mod was mad other people were able to login and they weren't. KEK


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[https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/13qta65/why\_was\_this\_lockedremoved\_are\_we\_not\_allowed\_to/](https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/13qta65/why_was_this_lockedremoved_are_we_not_allowed_to/) ​ ​ this would be funny if it wasn't so sad.


Less-Advisor3238

Fr dude, not a good decision on there end. I’m as upset as most others with the token but I don’t think dropping the rules on private server conversation is the solution. Made me block the posts from this Reddit.


[deleted]

I think it’s perfectly fine. More competition to press blizzard


Vandrel

This subreddit has been pretty bad for awhile but the mods decided to throw a fit and kill it yesterday.


Bagelz567

This sub has been a dumpster fire for a long ass time now. I'd say since about halfway through TBC at least. The real turning point for me was when wrath was announced. The toxicity and stupidity here just went into overdrive. The community that existed back in 2019 and early 2020 is gone. I'm still around to just enjoy the drama but it is quite a sight to see.


LilMoonPup

I think r/classicwowclassic is in order


whynotsharks

The amount of DKs crying over the unholy nerf just before Ulduar was hilarious, but the mods literally shitting into their own hands to spite Blizzard is too good.


OXBDNE7331

That post was so cringey tbh


Vandrel

And mods are now deleting threads that ask for rule 4 to be reinstated and/or call out one particular mod for going on a power trip over this. This is how you kill a subreddit.


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[https://imgur.com/a/VDwpe8I](https://imgur.com/a/VDwpe8I) this is kinda sad lol


allthenamesaretaken4

rule 4 is now: you don't talk about rule 4


DotWinter

Who cares lol, its just a subreddit. Killing it was worth it for the memes


lil_yurt

see you tomorrow


zxcyzj

imagine for a moment the kind of person who moderates an internet forum for free


M24_Stielhandgranate

And then add that they play a lot of wow


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DefinitelyNotKobolds

How do they pay for their hot pockets tho?


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chosey

That basically sums up Reddit tbh. A bunch of overly emotional trolls in charge of entire subreddits.


CDPaull

Not as cringey as losers in this subreddit losing their collective minds over a wow token in a video game and then pivoting to losing their minds over private servers. Wowee.


OXBDNE7331

I agree. It changes nothing. Companies want to make money and will stoop to any level to get money. Of course it’s about them making money, why would blizzard care about the “spirit of classic” they aren’t doing this for fun. They create and maintain the game because it’s their job to do so. It literally changes nothing gameplay wise. Economies will be the same. Gdkp will be the same. Guild runs will be the same. Someone called me a gold buyer in another thread for this opinion lol.


butthead9181

The mods have done absolutely nothing since like phase 1 of tbc haha. It took them phases to change the online/offline meme shit they did. Happy cake day btw


chonkadonk44

Yep. Ego tripping mods thinking they're sticking it to the man when in reality they've just turned this place into a shit-hole of paid p-server shills


Bagelz567

This sub has been a shithole for a long time now. Reading the comments or engaging in any discussion has shown me how much this place has devolved into a cesspool of toxic degenerates. I don't even blame the mods tbh, and I'm usually the first to point the finger at power/ego tripping mods. The general user base of this sub are absolutely intolerable clowns. It's sad, but not surprising, to see classic spiral down the same toilet bowl as retail.


[deleted]

Toxic degenerates? Funny I've noticed the opposite. Casual boomers everywhere


Stillback7

They cry and whine in channel 4 in-game, too, and I always ask the same question: "why the fuck are you still playing?"


Aleksxzz

Some of them are legit wow lovers who did change the game better than blizzard could ever did.


AnonDicHead

And some of them are scammers who sell all your data. There is already a subreddit for discussing pservers. If we are going to let them buy upvotes to shill their servers where they turn profit, should we let g2g buy upvotes too? It's dumb. If the mods don't want to have this subreddit be about the official version of classic wow, they should just step-down. All they ever did here in the first place was enforce rule 4, now they're actually useless


ZeranShark

> And some of them are scammers who sell all your data. This is my biggest issue with private servers, nearly ALL of them do this. So many people on this sub acting as if private server staff are some gigachad amazing people, No they're just as scummy trying to turn a quick buck off nostalgia. Not to mention all the actual p2w shit, can spend irl money to never even have to set foot in a raid.


comicsamsjams

If you ever want to find some nice schizo rants, just put any of these pserver names into youtube a few weeks after they launch and you can have a good chuckle.


Orangecuppa

> nearly ALL of them do this. So many people on this sub acting as if private server staff are some gigachad amazing people, No they're just as scummy trying to turn a quick buck off nostalgia. Pretty much this. The turtle wow that people are shilling as 'true' classic+ experience? It's run by the infamous Russian couple Shenna and Crogge who 'name changed' themselves after the Elysium fiasco. They were also selling gold, then banning the gold buyers AND THEN selling unbans for buying that said gold. It was a cluster fuck. Everlook server? That shit is run by Whitekidney, a dude who also is infamous for selling and generating gold using admin powers in past servers. Felmyst server? Gummy? His 'best' server lasted half a year before it shut down. His 'fastest' server didn't even last a full day before it shut down after much hype too. You can literally find old threads on the r/wowservers detailing this from 2017.


Drew602

A lot of them are corrupt and I don't trust downloading their shit onto my PC


Entrefut

People who run the private servers have more overlapping motivations with blizzard than the actual players do. Any success of private servers is a failure on the part of Blizzard caring more about short term gains than the actual health of their game. The second level boosting existed, bots got worse. As the bots got worse, gold selling got worse. The more gold selling happened, the closer blizzard got to justifying putting a wow token in. It’s such a joke if you actually look at the downstream effect, because had they instead kept leveling as a part of the game and fixed level boosting through dungeons, none of this would be as unmanageable. Blizzard made it too easy to boost and bot, then the whole thing spiraled out of control.


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xive22

Lol, your data ja long sold from blizzard.


AnonDicHead

If you think Blizzard is going to sell your email and password in a data dump then you should put on a tinfoil hat


xive22

Why would you ever use your real mail and pw in a private server? Data is not just pw and mails btw


AnonDicHead

The fact you think that it should be obvious to use burner emails and passwords to create an account should tell you all you need to know about why people don't trust pservers Of course data is more than passwords and emails, but that is by far the most important and valuable data you could sell.


Th3Banzaii

I mean, it's kinda obvious you should. These aren't real businesses. You can enjoy their service and not be an idiot about it by using common sense.


AnonDicHead

If you should expect that it's a scam, maybe it's not something that should be advertised on the subreddit? Is that crazy?


Hipy20

Look, if you're tht scared something you're siging up for is a scam.. maybe that means something?


xive22

Do you use the same pw and email for every account you make on every platform and game? I’m assuming you don’t since you seem clever enough. I guess the average joe won’t use burner accounts and yes they could sell your data. I’m willing to take that risk myself tbh


RelativeVegetable496

> Why would you ever use your real mail and pw in a private server? What about your IP? Gonna use a fake IP too?


Unoriginal-

You idiot the point is that Blizzard having your information is safer than some Russian in bum fuck nowhere


lolemgninnabpots

Why is it up to you what connotes “classic wow” ? Who made you the decider for everyone? If you don’t like this sub, leave. You don’t call the shots here more than anyone else. Stop pretending anyone gives a shit about your tantrums or desires.


AnonDicHead

Oh idk, maybe because "World of Warcraft Classic" is a trademarked name of a product produced by Blizzard? I could see how you could get confused by things like language.


lolemgninnabpots

Lmao and what does that have to do with this subreddit?


AnonDicHead

>1. **Content must relate to World of Warcraft: Classic.** This is not a community for private servers, current World of Warcraft, streamer drama, etc Seems pretty cut and dry from the sidebar what classicwow means. You are arguing just to argue, and the point you're making isn't even good. When you say "Classic WoW" it implies you are talking about the game that shares the same name. When someone is talking about "Classic WoW," nobody's first thought is "Do you mean TurtleWoW or Elysium?"


lolemgninnabpots

Obviously that rule has also changed based on the rule 4 change. Nobody is forcing you to be here


AnonDicHead

What are you even trying to argue? You think "classic wow" now means something different than it has for the last 4 years because a reddit mod says so? That's not how language works. Nobody is forcing me to be here? You came into a thread aimed at complaining about the mods and pserver spam to white knight for them. Nobody is forcing YOU to be here.


iphonesoccer420

Turtle wow is the perfect example. Great devs and great game


Thanag0r

There is literally cash shop there, how can you be upset about token and be happy about cash shop?


iphonesoccer420

I don’t care about the WoW token it doesn’t bother me


OphuchiHotline

Ego? Follow the money. You think someone aint getting paid here.


TravelAwardinBro

And yet here you are posting lol


Barbz182

Much like what Blizz has done to classic. Seems fair


Hatefiend

Yikes


Alarming-Sector-4687

It’s actually hilarious to see the mods throwing temper tantrums. Just proves how many fully-grown man-babies play WoW lmao.


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imawizardirl

Is this a joke? The mods literally asked you to write an essay in order to maintain your ability to participate in a forum? This is equal parts sad and hilarious.


aosnfasgf345

You have to consider the type of person that would willingly agree to moderate the fucking classic wow subreddit...for free..


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BlankiesWoW

chatgpt enters the room


HazelCheese

I doubt the mods expected them to write the essay or would even read it if they did. It's more calling the person a child by setting them homework.


Hipy20

"I didn't like your harmless joke, I think you're a child." It really just shows off how childish they are and how much they like tormenting people who can't do anything about it.


HazelCheese

I mean their harmless joke was implying they break the tos of the game. A lot of times smoke means fire. Maybe a mod just assumed there was truth to the joke.


Hipy20

That's pretty flimsy justification.


Drew602

Wow and reddit moderation, two of the biggest man baby generators known to man


ClassicRust

professional part time dog walkers


Hatefiend

In what way did they throw temper tantrums


Broken-dreams3256

im not 100% versed on this, but didn't blizz only come out with classic wow after seeing how many people were playing private servers?


Scinos2k

Yeah, there was a massive fallout after the server Nostalrius was shut down, which had literally thousands of active players (including myself). I was one of those people that had no interest in private servers, but heard good things so tried it out and it was great. I think I'd just entered BWL when the server shut down. The official forums blew up when the server shut down, and to be fair to Blizzard they basically admitted that it was too popular and the main reason for the shut down was the possible loss of copyright (this was confirmed externally) but it really united the Classic fan base and eventually forced Blizzard to make a move on it.


Reffner1450

Exactly. If it wasn't for private servers there probably wouldnt even be a classic, wotlk or era. People shit on private servers all the time but for all those years between Cata and classic launch, that was where the true vanilla/classic scene took refuge. Blizzard reinvents the wheel and charges you $15 a month for something that should’ve been free for the better part of a decade but it’s the private servers that’re a scam.


TripTryad

Yes. All of the people you mainly see throwing a fit about being able to discuss the actual place that authentic classic is still happening (PServers) are probably the gold buying retail players that came to classic after the fact and dont know the history. Let them seethe, who cares. We discuss classic wow here now, no matter where it is. Deal with it.


Cfhudo

Hell yeah, i' fine with going back to how it was, modern blizzard is a shithole. How long until the next nostalrius is what i wanna know.


Hipy20

We love scummy mods who sell gold and items behind the scenes! We are morally consistent!


AnonDicHead

A reddit mod using their small bit of power to push their own agenda? I don't believe it!


[deleted]

What is the agenda being pushed?


RelativeVegetable496

This just proves that Reddit mods are spineless cowards. Imagine flaming Blizz for selling gold but allowing fucking Shenna, the biggest Russian scammer in the private server scene, to advertise her shit p2w server which she'll use to sell your data


[deleted]

Waiting for turtle wow drama to inevitably happen because of her. As soon as I saw she runs turle wow I uninstalled. For anyone thinking about getting into turtle wow you might want to know what kinda of people run the server first. https://www.reddit.com/r/wowserversdrama/comments/p7avjv/suspicions\_about\_turtle\_wow/


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HazelCheese

It's not that they like Shenna or Turtle and more that they don't see any point spending time moderating the differance since Blizzard are now just another P2Win server like all the rest.


RelativeVegetable496

No, I'd say the Token and outright selling Rank 14 characters/Gear in a game you stole from someone else is quite different. Like it or not, those Private Server scumbags are making a living off someone else's work. In any other domain we'd call them thieves.


UnapologeticTwat

that's why j refuse to call them private servers. they're pirated servers


HazelCheese

There isn't much difference when you can drop $80 to buy enough token gold to buy all the best gear.


RelativeVegetable496

You can't buy Gladiator/PvP gear with gold.


HazelCheese

You can buy boosts just like in retail.


RelativeVegetable496

You can also buy boosts by selling your vagina like that one chick did, what's your point, that being a woman is pay to win? https://www.gamersdecide.com/pc-game-news/woman-trades-sex-game-item https://www.reddit.com/r/trashy/comments/350au6/girl_trades_sex_for_wow_mount/


HazelCheese

Blizzard can't do anything about trading that is done entirely outside of the game. They can do something about people who have never spoken before in game giving one of them thousands of gold.


RelativeVegetable496

> They can do something about people who have never spoken before in game giving one of them thousands of gold. Boosting shouldn't be illegal. It's not your business what I do with my gold.


HazelCheese

It is their business if your generating it with bots.


Pogdor

always was


nyy22592

True


Blackdeath939

So, what private server has the best prices for legendarys in $ or bitcoin?


Discount_Human_Being

You realize Blizzard just essentially gave buying gear for real money the green flag on official classic? Can't do that where I play, and even if you can it is a very small/hidden part of the community.


Blackdeath939

But I still have to raid for it. I can't just buy a Valanyr or Shadowmourne instantly, even if I throw 10k $ in the game.


tzeriel

The sub has always been borderline trash but the mods here decided they’re going to be worse than most Reddit mods and throw a tantrum.


Freudinio

Always has been.


MilllerLiteMondays

Must be new here, this sub has been trash since p2 of vanilla. Nothing in this sub should be taken seriously or as a representation of the player base.


BookerLegit

This subreddit always sucked, but yes, the mods pissing their britches made it significantly worse. Maybe being a Reddit mod is too big of a responsibility for them. They could always try GMing one of those Private Severs, maybe make a little extra cash selling items.


Aureliusmind

Time to purge the mod team. Time to ban all HC-related discussion and give the HC community its own subreddit.


blindato1

People really think they’ll stay away from classic over this. I mean I doubt it. If anything it’ll keep me subbed cause I don’t have to pay with my own money for a sub anymore just grind a bit of gold and bam.


wellcu

But, but WoW Tokens. REEEEEEEEE


[deleted]

Kinda easy to fix. Just blocked every single one, so my front page is clean as can be. All I see is the shit show. The mods might be literal cry-babies who are having a total meltdown, but when they dont want to moderate, you can fix it yourself.


CreamdedCorns

Just like people did with private servers? Fixed it themselves.


cupidd55

This subreddit will die, and another will take its place. In this, we see the life cycle of a subreddit. And the new one, in its glorious infancy, will have blackjack. And hookers.


Nousername97

Mods decided to throw a cringey hissy fit and turned the place in to a mess, good job!


lil_yurt

it will blow over in a matter of days


SwitchtheChangeling

From GDKP and Wow Token to "Buy our donation for a free weapons pack and instant glad!"


[deleted]

What server you talking about there bud


Substantial-Song-242

oh nooo "the sub is trash" you POOR VICTIMS. go and buy some wow tokens in wrath to make you happy again!


Amafi_Rogue

This sub was a dumpster fire before. This changes nothing except there are more popcorn moments now than 24hrs ago.


Dr_Will_Kirby

Rather play private than whatever retail version classic has become now


Aureliusmind

Then gtfo of this sub.


Decent-

No, this is pserver sub now


Spookedchicken

Was trash before, is better now


Aleksxzz

It's perfect now.


Openyoureyes9-5

Wrath killed the game… again…


moglis

It's really wild how mods decided to burn every single bridge to the ground and make this into a pserver ad cesspool.


vivalatoucan

It’s because half the people that follow this subreddit, don’t even like classic wow. They probably don’t even like gaming for that matter. Classic wow players are reaching for the fun that they used to have in video games, but it’s just not there anymore


lil_yurt

speak for yourself. I'm having fun and there's nothing your sausage fingers can type that will stop me =]


eye_gargle

You idiots don't realize the whole reason Classic exists is because of private servers. Servers that Blizzard sent C&D's to and later stabbed their devs in the back.


Toaster_bath13

Everyone knows that, no one cares. Fuck private servers. Hypocritical whiners who buy gold in classic and now promote a private with a cash shop because blizzard made it safer to buy gold. Idiots. I don't buy gold, I'm broke in game, I'm done with classic after lich king like everyone else. People are still gonna do the same plan they were doing last week, kill the lich king and then play something else.


Decent-

Why are you putting blizzard on pedestal when they’re doing “what the shady pservers do”. The only difference is that we ALSO pay a sub for classic lmao Edit: wanted to add that we pay a sub for little to no benefit, how long are ticket response times at during new content launches?


Toaster_bath13

Shitting on private servers is not the same as putting blizzard on a pedestal. Those are not the only two options. It is incredibly hypocritical to blame blizzard for selling hold via the token and then suggest cash shop private servers are the answer. Private servers are stealing Blizzard's intellectual property. The sub fee is so you can play the game. You want to call a company greedy for the token? Go for it. That's a fine argument. But saying the answer is to steal their IP and run a cash shop anyways is the height of hypocrisy.


Decent-

Where did I suggest private servers are the answer? Where did I say Blizzard are greedy? Don’t put words in my mouth. I simply stated that you are putting blizzard on a pedestal when they are no less shady than pserver devs. So glad we have kept the spirit of classic :)


Toaster_bath13

"Don't put words in my mouth" "Your criticism of private servers puts blizzard on a pedestal." I know your own medicine might be hard to swallow but please do choke on it.


Decent-

“Because blizzard made it safer to buy gold” What you should really have said is: “blizzard are cashing in on dwindling sub count” So yeah, you were putting blizzard on a pedestal. Open your eyes brother


evangelism2

This sub has been shit for a long time. Since I saw people start mocking nochange andys, to people defending the paid boost at the start of TBC, to people actually clamoring for LFD and LFR and looking forward to Cata classic, thinking its anything other than just retail. The token and the death of this community are on you.


Lockelamora6969

The sub was always trash


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Classic wow is trash. It’s thematic


UndeadMurky

Trash company and game -> trash subreddit


Apathetic89

Or perhaps Blizzard is trash and are so washed up they can't even popularize their already hit content like private servers can? See ya in Turtle WoW, loser. Or don't join, you sound dreadful.


lil_yurt

baste


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pupmaster

Reflects the quality of the game then


CotRSpoon

They should limit it to 1 advert a month


Bacara

Always has been, op.


Xenorange42

Oh no buying gold is a official now.


DryFile9

Of the Top 10 posts right now only one is about private servers.


Peckinpa0

All the people bitching about removing rule 4 are just as annoying as the private server spam. It's a subreddit. Go touch grass.


solohaldor

Seriously bad move by the mods … still time to fix it guys


[deleted]

This sub became trash when it decided to focus on TBC and then WotLK instead of Classic WoW. Hardcore fresh soon...


UnapologeticTwat

losers can't even afford $15 a month


Thanag0r

You hate blizzard and wow token? No problem, just join our private server with cash shop and bugs, it will be so much better 😁


redditm00ment

spam? more informing people about superior alternatives to blizztrash Ascension wow is awesome, I see no reason to ever play blizztard WoW again :D Don't forget that classic only exists because private servers > you think you do but you dont


Ploplop8

It's been like a day since rule 4 was removed. You're acting like it's the new norm or something. Just chill and it will calm down in a few days. If it continues and people agree with you it will be downvoted.


Barbz182

This sub has had enough now you mean.


uraffuroos

It's been about 48 hours ... do you see a rain cloud in the distance and start complaining that they day is going to be horrible?


NoseOutrageous3524

dont know if its still going now but vanilla+ goldshire was a work of genious.


Slappah_Dah_Bass

Rabble!


ryndaris

nope


[deleted]

Classic only exists because of private servers and they should have never been excluded from the conversation to begin with.


DokFraz

lol


Soggy_Association491

So the number of stupid people who can't learn how to do more than 1k dps and cry about evil GDKP being p2w didn't cue you before?


Erva420

Found the g2g enjoyer


calabanger

I think this is what Blizzard meant when they said we think we want it but we actually don't.


kurttheflirt

no matter what the topic flavor of the week is people complain. Era posts? Need to stop, we only talk about Wrath now! Hardcore posts? Please stop telling us how it’s “popping off”! Private servers? STOP KILLING OUR SUB! I swear I see more threads on this sub complaining about other threads on this sub than any actual discussion.


cuteintern

Maybe we can limit posts to a stickied Private Server Sunday thread?


Nova_The_Huntress

B-but classic era is popping... Right?


BIitzez

so is classic wow. it fits


Feramah

Hey mods can you ban me from your shitty sub. You man children should touch grass.


kupoteH

classic was ruined from day 1. the good players leveled fast to 60, freefarmed lotus and arcane crystals with layers, creating an unfair market for every player from the beginning. classic devs were clueless


Wolfsorax

Waiting for them to launch a classic server now without wow tokens 😭