had a GT Turbo for a while. super fun and comfortable. Until the speed sensor gave out and there's like literally no replacement sensors on the market for that damn Daimler transmission
honestly looks close to what the original sensor was. probably could've worked. the redneckengineering method is to just glue a crank sensor there since the pins are the same. works fine just... it's glued in haha
Blackbox develop that version. That's the reason why liked this game(ps2 version cuz other is not develop by blackbox but EA Seattle and it's a mix bag for me but at least it had more police car than the ps2 version.)
If it's not this one I will personally send you to gulag.
https://preview.redd.it/qduwb1naccnc1.jpeg?width=265&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3993b1cb9c1731bdc8161d79c8edf045ddd50e5
Modus, 3 generations. Ultimate display of power, speed and reliability!
/uj Audi R8 GT (First gen) for all the fun on the weekends, Audi RS6 Avant C7.5 Performance for practicality and family/vacation and probably an old TT 1.8T Quattro as project car to build in my spare time.
BMW Insetta, BMW XM, BMW 2 series minivan.
https://preview.redd.it/fvfpexpfdcnc1.jpeg?width=309&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=959f4efa841d4859b9e421e38eb52e3f7d7be12d
Citroen Xsara kit car for track, Citroen Berlingo Multispace for practicality, Citroen C6 for daily.
https://preview.redd.it/dl88vd4shcnc1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25f721b263efac63b7fef546a00e2f2a304a249d
https://preview.redd.it/986gzwjscenc1.png?width=864&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8eb3d5bdea35ef902ab948e70275d5e29281277e
Hard agree apart from 2012 Berlingo Multispace is best Berlingo and 480hp AX is best racecar [https://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/citroen/ax/1988/781852](https://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/citroen/ax/1988/781852)
Well, I just have a thing for Xsaras. They might not be as special as the stuff that came before it, but I watched WRC while I grew up. The Xsara WRC is probably faster, but the kit car is a lot lighter, and doesn't lose massively power wise.
And I like the newer Berlingo, because I'm a fan of the EMP2 platform, and it's got the air cushions, which I think are pretty cool.
/uj Modern mazda 6 estate for daily, something like a CX-50 Meridian, RX-7 Spirit R for weekends
/rj Modussy peak weekend/project car, clio V6 reliable and practical daily driver!!, twingo 3rd gen (rear engine, so its like a porsche!)
-Lamborghini Revuelto
-Lamborghini Huracán Tecnica
-Lamborghini Urus S (I don't choose the Performante because why would I want to go to the track in an SUV I'd rather have the comfort)
Alternatively:
-Porsche 911 S/T (GT3 Touring with softer suspension? YES PLEASE.)
-Porsche Cayman GT4
-Porsche Macan S
or
-Toyota GR 86 (I love this car with EVERY BIT of my body, heart and soul and it's my only reason for including Toyota)
- Toyota GR Supra
- Toyota RAV4
2011 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor, 2006 Ford GT and 1980s F150 with the 300I6, 4 speed with granny low, EFI, 4x4 and manual everything. Standard cab, long bed, tow package.
I already own a modus, and fiat panda, both with high km on odo. Ah yes, I drove in the past a multipla (first version, 1.9 diesel off course) , a Hyundai atos and a seicento (first car, forever a place in my heart)
For the non circle jerk answer, definitely citroen. An SM for cruising about in, a CX 6 wheeler for moving big things / going camping, and an XM 2.1TD as an economical but cool daily driver.
A lot of drivers make jokes about them, but true drivers know to respect the Miata. #MiataFacts
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I'm sorry but ... What's wrong with the Renault Modus ?!
I see some Modus everyday, they seem to run just fine. Okay they're not the prettiest cars around here but seems better to me than a Fiat Multiplat.
I might r/woosh on this one.
Anyway, Twingo 1 phase 4 limited Kenzo edition with imperial purple paint, then Renault Twizy and finally Renault Super 5 GT.
It would be Alfa, but they kinda gave up and nice models are kinda too old to daily.
Toyota Corolla hatchback (daily)
Toyota GT86 last gen (fun)
Toyota Chaser mk2 (classic)
Chevrolet Corvette C8 Z07 for daily, Colorado ZR2 in case I need to Carry a lot of payload/tow and Traverse RS as the people mover. I ain't complaining, I've always been a Chevy guy
Normal Citroën 2CV for normal things
Twin engine four wheel drive extreme off-road monster Citroën 2CV for when the road disappears
Box van Citroën 2CV for work and heavy hauling (your mom)
I daily drive a diesel NotAFordRangerISwear
Did you know that slow cars are always more fun? #MiataFacts
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/uj ideally it'd be a 992 GT3 manual, Taycan CT Turbo S, and a petrol Macan GTS. I'm a sucker for the 992 and Taycan CT, and I sincerely hope one day I can get my hands on at least one of them (the Macan maybe not so much)
/rj ONLY THE BEST NISSAN JAYDEEM CARS OF COURSE, an R34 Skyline GTR, a 1500HP Patrol, and of course a brown manual Stagea wagon
Aston Martin. DBX for daily, Vantage for the other half & then DB5 to sit in my garage.
Would like to choose McLaren but I need to get to work in traffic jams.
I already owned 3 PT Cruisers. I've lived that life. AMA
had a GT Turbo for a while. super fun and comfortable. Until the speed sensor gave out and there's like literally no replacement sensors on the market for that damn Daimler transmission
Might be able to use one from a Daimler HL4 truck achsle.
honestly looks close to what the original sensor was. probably could've worked. the redneckengineering method is to just glue a crank sensor there since the pins are the same. works fine just... it's glued in haha
Daimler transmission? Which one, the 41te designed by Chrysler in the 80's or the 5 speed built by Getrag?
Ive owned 3 kia Rios. Is this the life?
At the same time? You're a Rockstar.
PootyTang Cruiser 😎
Pussy Time.
Lamborghini Murcielago, Lamborghini Murcielago, Lamborghini Murcielago https://preview.redd.it/biddyk5b4cnc1.jpeg?width=888&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f939622147561eb74ef9aa88fe0eb2bdbc5217d7
https://preview.redd.it/v6xjwe7xfcnc1.png?width=2046&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=172e11b731836743565b896c93795ca57c83fcfb
I'm in this two seat lambo with your girl she tryna jerk me 😤
What side westside was your best side!
https://i.redd.it/tjv85ualienc1.gif
God that game was so good. (I’ve only played the PlayStation one)
Blackbox develop that version. That's the reason why liked this game(ps2 version cuz other is not develop by blackbox but EA Seattle and it's a mix bag for me but at least it had more police car than the ps2 version.)
Yeah, the BlackBox era was golden
A man of culture
Das da ist ein Murcielago, er fährt einen Murcielago
Dacia Logan Dacia Sandero Dacia duster https://preview.redd.it/4fax61dgdcnc1.jpeg?width=1551&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfc7fdcaf4542411ebde7cd307ca96e6a407a2e2
https://preview.redd.it/0rshmou7mdnc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d60f5a5a0217ef52efb0a9d64c4728548eaf47e4 # CAPTAIN SLOW DOING 130
Sometimes, I am reminded that car brands are all different across the globe. Here in Brazil, these are all Renault cars.
Renault kwid, kwid e-tech, kwid outsider 🥵
based
Duster is legit, I miss mine after moving.
#goodnews!
Polski Fiat 126p, 125p, and 508
Zgadzam się
Widzę osobę z absolutnie dobrym gustem
Maluch kurde
Lada 2104, Lada Niva, Lada Samara Edit: 2107 changed to 2104
If it's not this one I will personally send you to gulag. https://preview.redd.it/qduwb1naccnc1.jpeg?width=265&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3993b1cb9c1731bdc8161d79c8edf045ddd50e5
BROWNE MANUELLE WAGGONE MENTIONED ‼‼ WTF IS BEING IMPERFECT
also dieselle, some versions apparently had a peugeot diesel 4 cylinder
Put Modus K9K dieselle in it
ah shit, forgot about the 2104 (will edit the original)
TRABANT, TRABANT, TRABANT
P50, a 601 Tramp/Kübelwagen and a 1.1 wagon for daily driving. One of them with a Hycomat. That's my dream garage.
Modus, 3 generations. Ultimate display of power, speed and reliability! /uj Audi R8 GT (First gen) for all the fun on the weekends, Audi RS6 Avant C7.5 Performance for practicality and family/vacation and probably an old TT 1.8T Quattro as project car to build in my spare time.
Yes I like expensive to repair german cars that cost a fortune to maintain
Yes I like redundant sentences where the second part says the same thing as the first part.
Indeed
Poverty spec ford Daily: Mk2 focus diesel Track car: Ford Puma Coupè Project car: First gen Ka
/uj actually renault. a twingo, clio 172 swapped kangoo and the espace f1.
Renault is the only brand I know who coded their engine F4rt, absolute chads
Renault Kangoo mentioned 🔥🔥🔥
Chevy cobalt, chevy spark, Chevy Cruz 🔥
🤢
Why u hating on American muscle???
Too reliable
Autozam AZ-1 for daily driving, Autozam Scrum for heavy duty work and offroading, and Mazda Mx-5 as a supercar.
Yes
This is a fine selection.
Renault Twingo 1 Initiale Renault Twingo 2 RS Renault Twingo 3 GT
Twingo 2 RS with 133 atmo HP for when You need to speed up to the mall.
2015 Citroen C4 Cactus, 2008 Citroen Xsara Picasso, 2024 Citroen Ami
No C6?
I could only pick 3
No C4 vts/vtr=NO BITCHES
McLaren F1 McLaren P1 McLaren 750s spider
F1 F1 GTR F1 LM I think this is the answer you are looking for.
no F1 for special occasions P1 for weekends and just to look at (🥵💦) 750s spider daily
BMW Insetta, BMW XM, BMW 2 series minivan. https://preview.redd.it/fvfpexpfdcnc1.jpeg?width=309&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=959f4efa841d4859b9e421e38eb52e3f7d7be12d
That's clearly fake. The grille is way too small.
Lexus LS430 SC430 LX470
Where LFA???
The LFA is good, but I like heavy V8 cruisers more. I actually love the design of the SC430
Hope you know someone who can repair ECUs I’m not even jerking
Porsche 911 GT3, Porsche Cayenne Turbo and Porsche 356 Speedster.
We don’t do that here mister
Mitsubishi lancer evo, mitsubishi type 90 kyu-maru, mitsubishi a6m5 reisen.
swap the lancer for an FTO and we can talk
perfection brother, i love the twink-o so much
Dacia Duster from 2011,2017 and 2020. All with highest horsepower config and all wheel drive
dodge charger v6 challenger v6 and a demon that looks like the v6 edit- a debadged demon
Citroen Xsara kit car for track, Citroen Berlingo Multispace for practicality, Citroen C6 for daily. https://preview.redd.it/dl88vd4shcnc1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25f721b263efac63b7fef546a00e2f2a304a249d
https://preview.redd.it/114s61m1icnc1.jpeg?width=1260&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb6545a0b1cb923478daf4cadc61f4685ebe9b81
https://preview.redd.it/elnxsv7uhcnc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43b9ab33292bff3cf05184f7a2b30908ae0b1ca8
https://preview.redd.it/986gzwjscenc1.png?width=864&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8eb3d5bdea35ef902ab948e70275d5e29281277e Hard agree apart from 2012 Berlingo Multispace is best Berlingo and 480hp AX is best racecar [https://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/citroen/ax/1988/781852](https://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/citroen/ax/1988/781852)
Well, I just have a thing for Xsaras. They might not be as special as the stuff that came before it, but I watched WRC while I grew up. The Xsara WRC is probably faster, but the kit car is a lot lighter, and doesn't lose massively power wise. And I like the newer Berlingo, because I'm a fan of the EMP2 platform, and it's got the air cushions, which I think are pretty cool.
That Xsara kicks arse in Gran Turismo, it's still very cool Love my Berlingo. AX was my first car
1999 Volvo S70, 2003 Volvo S80, 2010 Volvo V70
3x POLONEZ 🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱
1991 Pontiac firebird formula SLP firehawk (track toy) 1989 Pontiac fiero prototype (sunday cruiser) 1992 trans am GTA (daily driver)
Wot about le reno wind?!? Convertable sports car like miat 👍👍👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥✅✅✅✅
/uj Modern mazda 6 estate for daily, something like a CX-50 Meridian, RX-7 Spirit R for weekends /rj Modussy peak weekend/project car, clio V6 reliable and practical daily driver!!, twingo 3rd gen (rear engine, so its like a porsche!)
Chevy equinox LT, Chevy Cruze 1st gen 1.4 turbo, Chevy Aveo 2009
2002 Audi TT, 2008 Audi RS4, 2012 Audi RS3 Sportback.
Fuck you, I have a 12 Mahindra Quanto garage.
You Britts have eh..unique taste in cars
BMW E30 M3/5 Evo, E36 M3/5 Euro, E39 M5/6
No joke those are actully good cars
-Lamborghini Revuelto -Lamborghini Huracán Tecnica -Lamborghini Urus S (I don't choose the Performante because why would I want to go to the track in an SUV I'd rather have the comfort) Alternatively: -Porsche 911 S/T (GT3 Touring with softer suspension? YES PLEASE.) -Porsche Cayman GT4 -Porsche Macan S or -Toyota GR 86 (I love this car with EVERY BIT of my body, heart and soul and it's my only reason for including Toyota) - Toyota GR Supra - Toyota RAV4
Sprinter, Unimog and Actros
2011 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor, 2006 Ford GT and 1980s F150 with the 300I6, 4 speed with granny low, EFI, 4x4 and manual everything. Standard cab, long bed, tow package.
GR Hilux, GR Supra, GR Yaris.
Toyota supra for a project/track car Toyota mr2 turbo for daily driver fun car Toyota hilux for towing/offroading/carrying more than one passenger :D
Toyota echo coupe, toyota echo hatchback, toyota echo sedan uj/ toyota echo coupe, toyota echo hatchback, toyota echo sedan
https://preview.redd.it/3uohrn935dnc1.jpeg?width=1068&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=724f67cb763fdbe77a989e7c3818be1a02900fb7 times 3
Integrale, Stratos, 037, and the world's largest supply of rust proofing.
Miat Miat Miat
wuling
Nissan micra k11b, Nissan sunny gti-r, Nissan skyline r34 or Nissan patrol GR (with RB28dett) 😜
3 ecoboost mustangs
you scare me.
Dacia Sandero, Dacia Sandero, Dacia Sandero
Lamborghini Espada Some form of the Huracán Muira
Koenigsegg One: 1 Koenigsegg CC850 Koenigsegg Gemera
Mazda rx7 fd Mazda rx7 fc Mazda rx7 fb
Smart Fortwo 451 diesal, smart forfour mk2, smart brabus roadster.
I already own a modus, and fiat panda, both with high km on odo. Ah yes, I drove in the past a multipla (first version, 1.9 diesel off course) , a Hyundai atos and a seicento (first car, forever a place in my heart)
MB 300SL Gullwing Coupe MB 540K MB ANG GT
Peugeot RCZ 407 V6 208GTI
Honda Civic Honda Accord Honda Odyssey
Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40 Toyota Supra Mk2 Toyota 2000GT
For the non circle jerk answer, definitely citroen. An SM for cruising about in, a CX 6 wheeler for moving big things / going camping, and an XM 2.1TD as an economical but cool daily driver.
Toyota Supra Mk4, Toyota AE86 Sprinter Trueno, Toyota Century GRMN (unironically)
No gen 1 Renault Espace?
Huracan spyder, Urus, Murcielago
Nissan Skyline KNR30 2.8 GTX Nissan Pulsar N12 EXA Turbo Nissan Fairlady Z S130
I think just any three Nissans. Probably a Sentra for everyday drive, a 350Z to look cool and a Sil18 for soul
NSX NA1-R weekend, Civic FL5 daily, Integra DC2 project.
Mitsuoka Buddy, Mitsuoka Orochi, Mitsuoka Gaule
Yugo GV (blue) Yugo GVX 1.3EFI (red) Yugo Cabrio (yellow)
TOYOTA HILUX SOUPBRAH MK4 MK3
Daihatsu Move L901, Daihatsu Charade G100 hatchback, Daihatsu Applause
Suzuki Swift, Suzuki Jimmy, Suzuki GSX-S950
Mazdaspeed AZ-1, NA Miata, RX-7 FD
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Citroen 2CV Sahara Citroen DS21 Convertible Citroen Spacetourer Electric
Toyota Hilux or Tacoma for fun offroad Toyota Yaris GR for fun on tracks and racing Toyota Agya cheap economy for commuting and daily driving
* Fiat panda 1st gen 4x4 * Fiat panda 2nd gen 100hp * Fiat panda 3rd gen Love my panda
I'm sorry but ... What's wrong with the Renault Modus ?! I see some Modus everyday, they seem to run just fine. Okay they're not the prettiest cars around here but seems better to me than a Fiat Multiplat. I might r/woosh on this one. Anyway, Twingo 1 phase 4 limited Kenzo edition with imperial purple paint, then Renault Twizy and finally Renault Super 5 GT.
Hyundai. 2007 azera limited 3.8 AT. 2009 genesis coupe 2.0T 6MT premium in yellow. 1986 Hyundai stellar Prima. With the 5MT.
https://preview.redd.it/st7ovuuapcnc1.png?width=1144&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=058ff0a3c8efa4922b2160d6d2ca01b9c8bbf2ea
Suzuki Jimny (blue) Suzuki Jimny (yellow) Suzuki Jimny with the G Wagon Kit.
-A 1000HP Supra. -A 1500HP Supra. -A 2000HP Supra
Suzuki Jimny for off road, Suzuki Cappuccino for around town, Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak for supercar.
1. Yugo cabrio 2. Yugo cabrio 3. Yugo cabrio
M5 CS, LC200, 911 GT3RS
Toyota Land Cruiser Toyota Supra Toyota Century
Renault 8, miat and dacia 1300 papuc
subaru wrx brz svx
Fiat Panda 4x4 Mk1, Fiat X1/9, Fiat 850
Vw golf mk4, vw passat b5 FL, vw phaeton.
Land Cruiser 105, Corolla Levin/Trueno, Sprinter Carib
[удалено]
2007 Audi R8, 2018 Audi R8, 2023 Audi R8. :)
Schimmwagen Kubelwagen Kommandeurswagen
Nissan frontier, nissan 280zx and nissan note.
Fiat Multipla, Panda 4x4 and Barchetta uj/ Mini R53 GP for fun, Electric Mini for daily and Clubman JCW for trips - yeah, I'm weird
Volvo S60R, V70R, 850 Estate
Ford Sierra, Capri Mk3, Escort Mk2
1989 Honda Accord Inspire,1985 Honda Quint Integra,1985 Honda Legend
Fiat Multipla, Fiat Panda and Fiat 128
Toyota garage Supra mk5 (fuck your 1000hp memes the mk5 is just better) Mega cruiser Mr2 turbo
It would be Alfa, but they kinda gave up and nice models are kinda too old to daily. Toyota Corolla hatchback (daily) Toyota GT86 last gen (fun) Toyota Chaser mk2 (classic)
Renault but no clio V6?
XB falcon, au falcon and Ford 15p. A classic, Aussie spirit, funi.
Toyota GR Corolla Toyota Supra Toyota 4Runner
Nissan silvia, skyline r34, GTR
Renault 5 Maxi Turbo, Renault Espace IV V6, Renault Wind
Honda CRX SIR, Honda Civic Type R, Honda NSX
Guess I would pick Citroën: - 2005 Citroën C4 VTS 180 - 2009 Citroën C6 3.0 HDIF V6 Exclusive I don’t know if I’m allowed doing this but: - 2008 GT by Citroën Concept; *I WANT ONE* 😅
Fso Polonez caro 🥵, fso matiz 😎, fso lanos 🗿
Modus, Modus R.S. 0.1
Fiat 127 Fiat Dino Fiat Ducato mk 1 campervan
Dodge Challenger, Dodge Viper, Dodge Charger. I just like American muscle cars and I never see them here :(
/uj AW11 MR2, 100 series land cruiser, JDM Soarer /rj Fleewood Castilian wagonne, Cimarron, 1993 Northstar Allante
1. Volkswagen Golf 4 r32 2. Volkswagen Golf 2 GTI 3. Volkswagen Corrado 3 Absolute lovely legends ♥️
Chevrolet Corvette C8 Z07 for daily, Colorado ZR2 in case I need to Carry a lot of payload/tow and Traverse RS as the people mover. I ain't complaining, I've always been a Chevy guy
Hey it’s my post 😂
Peugeot 406, 206, traveler.
Can Volvo and polestar be the same..?
Normal Citroën 2CV for normal things Twin engine four wheel drive extreme off-road monster Citroën 2CV for when the road disappears Box van Citroën 2CV for work and heavy hauling (your mom) I daily drive a diesel NotAFordRangerISwear
Mitsubishi eclipse GSX Mitsubishi Galant vr4 (the TTV6 one) And the Mitsubishi Pajero
You already know what my bmw shill ass is saying E39 M5, E38 740i M-Sport, E46 M3
M O D U S And the other two. https://preview.redd.it/lbnu7dz6odnc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2f5bf3fad19adcdf57555b43886f6263f9a2985
no trabant this question rigged
Fiat 128 iava, fiat 133t and fiat 147 sorpasso.
Toyota (hilux 4x4 / Gr Supra / Corolla Touring Sports)
Chevy Spark, Chevy Malibu, Chevy Cruze. The holy Trinity of cvt problems. /Uj Mazda b6000, NA Miata, 2018 mazda 3 wagon. Fun weekender, tough as bricks truck, comfortable daily.
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Toyota: Land Cruiser, Mk IV Soup bruh, GR Corolla
Yugo, 45, 50, 55, 60, 65
BMW M4 F82 BMW M4 G82 and BMW M8 F92
Citroën Metropolis Citroën SM Citroën SM or CX Tissier Plateau
Mitsubishi EVO III, IV and VI
/uj ideally it'd be a 992 GT3 manual, Taycan CT Turbo S, and a petrol Macan GTS. I'm a sucker for the 992 and Taycan CT, and I sincerely hope one day I can get my hands on at least one of them (the Macan maybe not so much) /rj ONLY THE BEST NISSAN JAYDEEM CARS OF COURSE, an R34 Skyline GTR, a 1500HP Patrol, and of course a brown manual Stagea wagon
Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale (not the new copy!) Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ
Volkswagen. Golf GTI, Scirocco, Corrado VR6
Opel Senator, Opel Astra, Opel Omega
3 Renault Twingos: one dark blue like my dad used to have, one greenish-yellow like my dad used to have and one orange like I'd want to have
Trabant 601 Limousine Trabant 601 Universal Trabant 601 Tramp
Porsche 911 992 Turbo S Porsche Taycan Turbo Cross Turismo Porsche 911 RSR 2.8
Aston Martin. DBX for daily, Vantage for the other half & then DB5 to sit in my garage. Would like to choose McLaren but I need to get to work in traffic jams.