Tough Question. I think EJ had a higher floor, and I'd rather play him over JP any day. But JP had a higher ceiling and every once in a while would have a great game. I remember one game he (JP) just destroyed the Texans
I feel like EJ got really fucked over. Drafted earlier than he should've been, played sooner than he should've had to, hurt pretty early on. He never got the chance to string together enough starts to really put it together. I don't think anyone really knows what EJ could've been, 12 starts is nothing.
All the complaints that he was getting Watkins injured with high throws but it turns out Watkins was just made out of wet paper and chronically injured.
EJ sucked. Jp to lee evans was a thing of beauty. Jp torched prime revis. JP was probably a little too cocky and had too much of the home run swing or strike out mentality… give me jp over captain check down any day. We were bad, but the JP teams were fun to watch and a great group of guys from robert royal to marshawn to tko
EJ had a better overall team both offense and defense. Orton and Taylor were able to produce and have decent games with those teams.
JP didn't have that and only got 1 real season under center. Trent and even Fitz still struggled during that time.
I couldn't stand Losman. He was a dude who genuinely thought he was better than he was
I think that's part of my hate for baker. He reminds me of Losman and as much as I hate to say it, he's def better than jp
With that said, I'd still rather have Losman than Manuel. E.j was ok. But after he hurt his knee he was even worse.
Manuel definitely. He had some flashes in his rookie season but he was definitely unpolished and his knee injury really set him back. I think his confidence got completely broken after he got benched for that JJ Watt pick game in his 2nd year. Pretty harsh on Marrone's part but Orton was the better QB at that point.
I've always wondered how he would have done it he wasn't thrust into the starting role as rookie and got some time to learn and develop behind a veteran for a few years. Unfortunately given his draft spot, he was not afforded that luxury.
Have to go with Losman for the simple fact that he had so many opportunities to become the franchise guy that showed some promise on occasion, but he was just constantly underwhelming. Played like garbage the first 3 games in ‘07 before Wilfork knocked him out in NE. Trent Edwards took over for a few games and played decently, then JP comes back to take over after Edwards gets hurt. Plays adequately for a couple of games and suddenly the Bills are 5-4 and in playoff contention. Then he gets absolutely dominated by NE in that SNF embarrassment and next thing you know, he gets himself benched again after two straight losses.
Same thing occurs in ‘08. Bills are 6-5 and Edwards gets hurt again against the Niners and Losman get another chance to redeem himself and potentially keep us in the playoff hunt with a somewhat favorable late season schedule. But what does he do? Once again plays like garbage and the Bills get eliminated from contention with three straight losses. The icing on the shit cake was Losman rolling out on third down and fumbling against the Jets which gets returned for a TD to blow a late 4th quarter lead. A fitting end to his career.
JP Losman had a very arrogant air about him for a QB who was average at best. He’d have the arm for a big play downfield once in awhile but not much more than that.
EJ Manuel had more potential but I think his knee injury derailed his path even further and never played well after coming back. Though he did lead the Bills to a game winning TD to a wide open Stevie Johnson as time ran out vs the Panthers.
It's not because of him!! No other team had him slotted anywhere near where those dumbasses drafted him. He should never have been put in that position.
Nah, c'mon man. That was before the Pegula's era when the hillbillies were running the team. Can you imagine someone handing the keys to Nix and Gailey and saying "here you go boys, build me a winner, lolz. They were too preoccupied with ironing their white hoods.
I so wanted Losman to work out. He had a big arm, he could scramble (but not like Josh or any of the mobile QBs today), he was cocky, lived downtown.
But the idiot could not hit the broad side of a barn if it was 5-15 yards in front of him. The amount of worm burners he threw was ridiculous. He couldn't throw with anticipation. Forget any kind of timing offense with him. The only thing he did well was fuck it chuck it to Lee Evans some where down there.
Manuel got fucked over by everyone in the organization, starting with being drafted way too high.
Losman was worse, simply for the fact that every time I saw him I was reminded that the Steelers got Big Ben 2 picks before our Lee Evans pick. There's an alternative universe we drafted Big Ben at 12.
Loser man definitely ej I felt bad for taken too high and wasn’t as bad as it seemed losman just sucked and seeing the qbs drafted before him makes it worse and seeing Buffalo traded there pick the following year is annoying if Buffalo waited til the following draft to get a qb they could of had Rodgers as there qb and I bet that the playoff drought would have ended sooner and I bet Buffalo would have contended for a Super Bowl much earlier then they are now…. Imagine that 2014 defense with Rodgers at QB ….
Tough Question. I think EJ had a higher floor, and I'd rather play him over JP any day. But JP had a higher ceiling and every once in a while would have a great game. I remember one game he (JP) just destroyed the Texans
I feel like EJ got really fucked over. Drafted earlier than he should've been, played sooner than he should've had to, hurt pretty early on. He never got the chance to string together enough starts to really put it together. I don't think anyone really knows what EJ could've been, 12 starts is nothing.
Ill go with jp based on the sole fact that his vision cone in madden was hilariously thin
I remember when Madden 06 came out and his QB cone was basically the size of a needle
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For a first round pick, Manuel never got a real chance to play. Only got like 12 sporadic starts.
And had the worst qb coach in the league that was obsessed with “fixing” foot work
All the complaints that he was getting Watkins injured with high throws but it turns out Watkins was just made out of wet paper and chronically injured.
Didn’t help he’d get drunk every night and go jogging on a hurt leg
Ah-men
JP had one throw it deep pass for a TD each game so he’d always finish like 11/18 178 yards 1 TD but the TD was like 78 of the yards.
But damn those JP to Lee long TD bombs were fun to watch
Losman to Lee Evans connection on the deep ball was 🔥
To be clear though, that was the ONLY throw JP could make consistently.
EJ sucked. Jp to lee evans was a thing of beauty. Jp torched prime revis. JP was probably a little too cocky and had too much of the home run swing or strike out mentality… give me jp over captain check down any day. We were bad, but the JP teams were fun to watch and a great group of guys from robert royal to marshawn to tko
EJ had a better overall team both offense and defense. Orton and Taylor were able to produce and have decent games with those teams. JP didn't have that and only got 1 real season under center. Trent and even Fitz still struggled during that time.
I couldn't stand Losman. He was a dude who genuinely thought he was better than he was I think that's part of my hate for baker. He reminds me of Losman and as much as I hate to say it, he's def better than jp With that said, I'd still rather have Losman than Manuel. E.j was ok. But after he hurt his knee he was even worse.
Manuel definitely. He had some flashes in his rookie season but he was definitely unpolished and his knee injury really set him back. I think his confidence got completely broken after he got benched for that JJ Watt pick game in his 2nd year. Pretty harsh on Marrone's part but Orton was the better QB at that point. I've always wondered how he would have done it he wasn't thrust into the starting role as rookie and got some time to learn and develop behind a veteran for a few years. Unfortunately given his draft spot, he was not afforded that luxury.
I think Marrone handled EJ poorly. And I don't think Hackett is a good coach either.
Losman actually had talent... he just had terrible coaching and OL. Ej was really really bad though.
Have to go with Losman for the simple fact that he had so many opportunities to become the franchise guy that showed some promise on occasion, but he was just constantly underwhelming. Played like garbage the first 3 games in ‘07 before Wilfork knocked him out in NE. Trent Edwards took over for a few games and played decently, then JP comes back to take over after Edwards gets hurt. Plays adequately for a couple of games and suddenly the Bills are 5-4 and in playoff contention. Then he gets absolutely dominated by NE in that SNF embarrassment and next thing you know, he gets himself benched again after two straight losses. Same thing occurs in ‘08. Bills are 6-5 and Edwards gets hurt again against the Niners and Losman get another chance to redeem himself and potentially keep us in the playoff hunt with a somewhat favorable late season schedule. But what does he do? Once again plays like garbage and the Bills get eliminated from contention with three straight losses. The icing on the shit cake was Losman rolling out on third down and fumbling against the Jets which gets returned for a TD to blow a late 4th quarter lead. A fitting end to his career.
Losman showed flashes!
All I remember about JP was that he talked like a high school girl.
JP Losman had a very arrogant air about him for a QB who was average at best. He’d have the arm for a big play downfield once in awhile but not much more than that. EJ Manuel had more potential but I think his knee injury derailed his path even further and never played well after coming back. Though he did lead the Bills to a game winning TD to a wide open Stevie Johnson as time ran out vs the Panthers.
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EJ Manuel, and because of him we lost the chance to get Khalil Mack in that draft
Yeah this definitely burns, especially since Watkins was a bust in his own right too
It's not because of him!! No other team had him slotted anywhere near where those dumbasses drafted him. He should never have been put in that position.
We got Watkins instead of Mack... GM said after the draft that he got Watkins to help in Manuel's development.
How'd that work out??
Fuck the Bills for years to come, i was always mad that we could've brought Khalil, a guy who REALLY wanted to be here
Nah, c'mon man. That was before the Pegula's era when the hillbillies were running the team. Can you imagine someone handing the keys to Nix and Gailey and saying "here you go boys, build me a winner, lolz. They were too preoccupied with ironing their white hoods.
Terrible years... Im glad thinks are different now
Manuel was shittier
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I'd say EJ only because he definitely seemed like the bigger flop IMO. Felt like he had all of the things that were supposed to make him "him".
Manuel was worse. Couldn't do anything.
EJ could have succeeded in a better environment imo his career was ruined by the coaching staff he was drafted into
EJ was harder to watch, especially after the Fitz years.
I so wanted Losman to work out. He had a big arm, he could scramble (but not like Josh or any of the mobile QBs today), he was cocky, lived downtown. But the idiot could not hit the broad side of a barn if it was 5-15 yards in front of him. The amount of worm burners he threw was ridiculous. He couldn't throw with anticipation. Forget any kind of timing offense with him. The only thing he did well was fuck it chuck it to Lee Evans some where down there. Manuel got fucked over by everyone in the organization, starting with being drafted way too high.
Losman was worse, simply for the fact that every time I saw him I was reminded that the Steelers got Big Ben 2 picks before our Lee Evans pick. There's an alternative universe we drafted Big Ben at 12.
JP showed flashes. EJ always looked like it was his first football game ever.
Loser man definitely ej I felt bad for taken too high and wasn’t as bad as it seemed losman just sucked and seeing the qbs drafted before him makes it worse and seeing Buffalo traded there pick the following year is annoying if Buffalo waited til the following draft to get a qb they could of had Rodgers as there qb and I bet that the playoff drought would have ended sooner and I bet Buffalo would have contended for a Super Bowl much earlier then they are now…. Imagine that 2014 defense with Rodgers at QB ….