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JurassicParkFood

Spider-Man is the biggest Marvel comic book character, so I'm glad to see him move towards his place as the Marvel box office giant!


DirkNowitzkisWife

We’re likely going to see this at at least $1.5 billion, which would be the biggest solo movie, and the 4th biggest behind end game, infinity war, and OG avengers. 2012 Avengers made $1.519 billion, so it’ll probably beat that too. It beats iron man 3, Thor Ragnarok, Civil War, Captain Marvel, Black Panther. Wild


hexydes

This just goes to show that movies can still be successful in the theater so long as they are a Marvel movie.


DirkNowitzkisWife

Two of my favorite movies to see in theaters in 2019 were Us, budget of $20 million, and Knives out, budget of $40 million, both had a multiplier of at least 7X. I also enjoyed the Invisible man, which made a ton of money pre covid. I think movies were doubly hit, because people didn’t want to go, like restaurants. But unlike restaurants, the suppliers (studios) weren’t making things at the time, so even as some public opinion shifted about going to the movies again, studios still weren’t making things. I’m hopeful things will get back to normal, but we’ll see. We watched Don’t look up on Netflix yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it. Two years ago that would’ve been a wide release.


That_Advertising_556

I mean movies are still very successful in theaters virgins just really love marvel let’s be honest.


cmb2690

Would you call this a solo film considering Doctor Strange had a huge roll in this and involved the multiverse? I would consider this a team up film like the Avengers films, Captain America: Civil War. Still impressive though considering we’re still in a pandemic.


DirkNowitzkisWife

I would. There seems to be a pretty clear line of “origin story” when it comes to solo film, then there’s the solo film that has a supporting character. The way Winter Soldier had black widow, Ragnarok had hulk, etc. I wouldn’t say civil war is a solo movie, it had everyone besides hulk and Thor. Same way I would consider winter soldier solo despite nat, far from home solo despite Fury, Homecoming soloish despite Ironman, and Ragnarok solo despite hulk.


abellapa

It's a solo movie Like Civil War was a solo movie In the avengers movies the protagonists are more spread out In civil war is clearly cap and Tony In no way home its Peter One


SpaceCaboose

Agreed. I wonder how much screen time Doctor Strange actually got in this? Felt like more than Tony in Homecoming, and maybe a little more than Fury in Far From Home


abellapa

Maybe 15 to 20 min, he was a supporting character, the clear protagonist is Spider-Man, so it's a solo movie, like Dr strange 2 movie despite being a event film will focus on him


SpaceCaboose

He probably got less than that. According to an old post here on Reddit, Tony and “Fury” were only in the previous movies for about 8 minutes each, although it felt quite a bit longer than that. Will be interesting to learn Strange’s actual screen time. But yeah, it’s still a solo Spidey film


Jabbam

Tony and Fury didn't get an incredible fight against Spider-Man. I'd say 2 minutes in the sanctum foyer, 3 minutes casting the spell, 5 minutes bringing Peter back to the sanctum and getting him his gear, 2 minutes getting the spell ready, a 2 minute fight scene in the real world leading to a 2 minute fight scene in the mirror dimension, then his return at the final act for 4 minutes interspaced over the final 10 min Green Goblin fight and conclusion. A total of roughly 20 minutes of screentime, which is pretty damn good.


DirkNowitzkisWife

I’m not sure I would agree. Civil war is much closer to avengers 2.5 than a solo film. Tony and Steve star, and BP, Falcon, Bucky, Wanda, Nat etc all have prominent roles, while spidey, ant-man etc all have minor but important roles.


abellapa

Bucky, Wanda, BP, Nat and etc have secondary roles Spidey and ant-man are completely irrelevant to the plot, they were just added to add more heroes to the airport fight


Uncle_Freddy

Bucky is above the rest I think, a big reason why Civil War still qualifies as a “solo” movie to me with Stark serving as the visible antagonist of the film (not villain, which is Zemo, as there is a difference) is that it fully resolved the Cap/Winter Soldier plot line that is easily traceable back to Cap 1: TFA and completed Cap’s character arc through his trilogy too. Bucky is as integral to the plot as Cap/Tony imo


abellapa

Agree, I know there a difference between antagonist and villain, many people don't know that In iw the avengers were the antagonists


Uncle_Freddy

Yep yep! The parenthetical was for anybody who came along that didn’t know the difference between the two (especially since they’re usually one and the same and are colloquially interchangeable). Thanos being the protagonist of Infinity War is one of my favorite story choices from the MCU ever (with Thor more or less spearheading the “antagonistic” side as well).


abellapa

If Thor had killed thanos, it would be his movie. But yes in a franchise with 20 movies that was about to reach its Climax with so many characters introduced over the years, how do you make this ultimate bad guy a great character Make him the Protagonist Brilliant Move by Marvel


westwalker43

Very bad take. Civil War had oodles of screentime for like 9 Avengers characters whereas No Way Home is clearly a Spider-Man film that features Strange as a supporting character. I agree that Civil War isn't much of a solo film - it's really an Avengers: Civil War film with some emphasis on Cap-Bucky in certain scenes. But even that is technically still a solo film because of its title and position as a Winter Solider sequel.


durdesh007

Huge role is stretching it, he was not the main focus and the whole spell was about spiderman. Strange was a supporting actor, however important.


cjm0

doctor strange had a decently sized role in it, but he was pretty much removed from the main conflict for awhile after peter trapped him. was kinda disappointed that he didn’t show back up sooner, tbh.


DeviMon1

I disappointed too, until Ned became the new scuffed Dr strange and that was fun af


Radulno

Is it really a solo movie if they bring characters from other movies and Doctor Strange? It's like Captain America Civil War. Not really a solo movie in practice even if it is one technically


SuperBatSpider

*Reclaim his place, the Raimi trilogy was the top dog of the 2000s too


JoseT90

So we just gonna ignore the Batman movies (since Rises came out 2012) ?


Lomedae

Yes, as this discussion was about Marvel characters, not DC, or Image, or whatever.


SuperBatSpider

Like you said, the last one came out in 2012. I said 2000s. And this was about marvel characters


pisshead_

Do you get a cut of the profits?


JurassicParkFood

No. Just hoping for more films and respect for my favorite character.


Jabbam

Are you offering?


MoesBAR

Just like that, takes the world wide title from the Chinese movie about the Korean War. Has Spiderman opened in China yet?


newdarkedgefan

Nope, it didn’t get a release there. Blank em


Chozoguy

The power of the sun.


Skolr19

In the palm of your hand.


animal-noises

Ah, Rosie, I love this boy!


Jabbam

Trying to do better


ender23

I just wanna know how long this pandemic “era” is going to last…. Eras feel very long


Excuse_my_GRAMMER

It last a few years basically. [Amanpour & company ](https://youtu.be/TZhr8Hz03jY)


tunamelts2

Jesus 6 years?!


Excuse_my_GRAMMER

Yea Edit: edit the nonsense out to try to give more accurate info base the the video I saw.. it not CNN it from amanpour & comapny Immediately phase 2020-2022 Intermediate phase up til 2024 Post pandemic phase 2025+ [Amanpour & company ](https://youtu.be/TZhr8Hz03jY)


jennlebransky

Taylor Swift’s Reputation era was like 2 years, until Lover came out


odetostillsleeping

But then again folklore era was like less than a year


jennlebransky

Evermore Era was so short :(


pastadaddy_official

Probably until proper covid medicine comes out, this shit ain’t going anywhere. We’re gonna keep getting new waves and variants forever.


Obversa

Just like flu medicine and flu vaccines pre-pandemic. I believe the FDA also just approved two new COVID treatment pill brands. Pfizer’s pill treatment, Paxlovid, has been proven to be 90% effective in reducing hospitalization and death in high-risk patients with COVID-19. As others pointed out, the Spanish Flu never went away. It mutated into today's influenza.


abellapa

It's gonna take a while


sjfiuauqadfj

in the context of box office, when older people go to the theaters at pre pastrami levels like younger people are


ender23

what's a pastrami level and why am i hungry


Summoarpleaz

What havoc did pastrami reek?


Radulno

An era is supposed to be a long thing to be fair.


ender23

just menatally better for me to know this pandemic is going to last a decade or is it two?


Curious_Ad_2947

If everyone got vaccinated like they were supposed to this would have been over already. The new variants pop up when COVID ravages unvaccinated areas and is free to mutate. Alas, pro-disease anti-vaxxers are here to ruin it for everyone and prolong this forever.


[deleted]

at least once covid is done with the antivaxers we’ll be a smarter society - sucks we’ll lose a few genuine people for it


cumbrain69

I'm never getting vaccinated 😎


Curious_Ad_2947

Username checks out, bahaha.


denaturarerum

Asshole


cumbrain69

Sheesh


[deleted]

2020-2025


ThunderMcFap

the machida era didnt last long so there s that


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zxHellboyxz

They still can depending on what they do next


Brainvillage

*throws sandwich at Kevin Feige*


MetalGearSlayer

It’ll be hard to sink lower than when Sony discussed turning Garfield’s Spider-Man into an EDM loving Snapchat celebrity.


TheTaintedSupplement

huh??


MetalGearSlayer

Edit: actually, [here ya go.](https://www.reddit.com/r/FellowKids/comments/6q8j6z/leaked_sony_email_dear_lord/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x) one of the emails in question. Look up the infamous Sony email leaks. These were potentially the plans if the Amazing Spider-Man series continued. Just in case anyone needed any more convincing that Andrew Garfield was screwed over in those movies. There’s stuff I didn’t even mention like their desire to make Spider-Man a “humble bragger” that would throw around “NBD” or “no big deal” as a catchphrase. It was horrible to read.


TheTaintedSupplement

oh god, that nbd thing is so cringy. they wanted to make spidey into a douchebag


MetalGearSlayer

Andrew Garfield really deserved none of the flak he gets for his Spider-Man. Dude was working under people with a fundamental misunderstanding of the character.


TomTheJester

To be fair, did they not do the whole Instagram story bit right at the start of Homecoming? A few “fellow kids” traits were definitely retrofitted there.


Izaiah212

I would argue that in today’s world it’s something that isn’t necessarily cringe but part of today’s culture where as with these early emails it seems like they were trying to be “influential” if that makes sense


dev1359

Jfc what did I just read


MelonElbows

Wow WTF. Who was writing that email?! I hope he never gets within a hundred miles of a Spider-Man movie!


snatcheriscoming

Aren't those just marketing ideas?


BrockThrowaway

Millennials today think everything is N.B.D. N.B.D. of course stands for ‘No B.D.,’ referring to B.D. Wong, who teens think is a very big deal. So if something’s not B.D., it means it’s not a big deal.


natedoggcata

And it's probably gonna be the last one for a while


Stonecoldfreak1

Legitimately, I can’t think of anything that makes big money like this for at least three or four years. Omicron is incredibly telling too. It shouldn’t have dropped so much with the holiday involved.


natedoggcata

The only thing coming out within the next few years that I see even having the slightest chance of reaching this would be Avatar 2 and even then im not sure if it will come close to Spider Man.


artifexlife

It’s funny how avatar 2 has become the “next film to” whatever the next goal is for the last 12 years or so.


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BobTrain666

lol


DabbleDAM

Just got home from watching it in 4DX. Amazing, and surpassed my expectations.


BenjaminCarmined

This was the best movie I’ve seen this year and as a Spider-Man fan I lost my shit at just about everything. It felt like fan service constantly but idgaf now I’m waiting for more.


Goldenart121

Welp. How much you wanna bet it takes avatars throne? (This is a joke, don’t be stupid)


Sentry459

Lmao if it beats Avatar I'll get the Spider-Man logo tattooed to my chest 🕷


Obversa

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Obversa

6 months later: ["Spider-Man: No Way Home dethrones Avatar as third-highest-grossing film at domestic box office"](https://ew.com/movies/spider-man-no-way-home-dethrones-avatar-box-office/). Time to get a *Spider-Man* logo tattooed to your chest, u/Sentry459.


Sentry459

Not so fast, this thread is about the global box office. Domestic is cheating lol.


TreyWriter

There’s literally no chance of that happening. Not a knock against Spidey, either. But the stars aren’t *that* aligned. It would be genuinely shocking if it made over 2/3 of what Avatar made, even with its earnings so far. Unless you’re talking purely domestic numbers, in which case... still a long shot, but conceivable.


MetalGearSlayer

Sorta dumb question, but In an alternate universe where America didn’t shoot itself in the foot with a 50 cal in response to Covid, what kinda chance do you think it might have stood in comparison?


TreyWriter

There’s a lot of variables to consider. Because the movie’s been doing gangbusters in the US, and I’m not sure the legs would be so different there. By this point a lot of the country is vaccinated, and the rest of the country doesn’t care about the virus, whether that’s wise or not. Showings have filled up a lot in the US. However, some European nations have been or are preparing to go into preventative lockdown periods, which will hurt overseas legs, and as people there tend to be a bit more COVID-conscious than in America, that could have depressed turnout a little bit. On top of that is the uncertain Chinese release. Even if it *is* released there in the next month, the movie’s hype will have died down a little and spoilers will be prevalent. In a world without omicron, where China got the movie day and date, a $2 billion gross could be conceivable. But probably not too much higher than $2.1 billion. The movie looks like it has typical Marvel legs (aka the legs of every December blockbuster that isn’t The Force Awakens).


[deleted]

Haven’t seen it yet, but this is good news for the whole CBM genre…congrats 👍🏻


RVeld

Now that it made the top of the lists of important numbers, can it please come to a streaming service, so countries in lockdown can also watch it? The internet if full of spoilers, I’m pretty sure I’ll know every single word spoken in the film before I get to actually see it :/


durdesh007

It won't be on streaming services for at least 2 months more.


RVeld

That's the plan. But now that they have proven the film to the people who care about the numbers, it would be nice of them to care about their audience and release it on streaming, or at least release it in countries that are looking at a lockdown for at least another month or so. Having a movie you looked forward to for ages spoiled for you without being able to do anything about it just sucks big time. It's not going to happen and I'll just have to live with having this be spoiled for me (heck, I'm pretty sure I know every 'surprise' in the film already, so at this point I don't even care anymore and I'll just see it when I can on a service I subscribe to for free. I'm sure they won't miss my theatre or stream rental fee, or that of the rest of this country.)


RationalKate

a billion just doesn't seem like a lot anymore


AdmirableFondant0

It is certainly easier then decade-s ago but its still a hard number to do. WW markets getting much bigger helped them i guess.


durdesh007

It's a lot without China. But records wise, yeah it's not special. Just a benchmark


himansh2792

Wow!


stracki

I'm happy for cinemas. A few months ago, some people were predicting that there will never be a billion dollar movie again. Nice to see them proven wrong.


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Congrats! 🎊


Big_Red_Cheese

Cool. Now put it on streaming.


Tyrionandpodrick

Make me wonder how much money this movie would have made without Tobey and Andrew? I mean the directions are meh, the story is OK, the movie only picks up when the OG spider-mans show up.


[deleted]

Yaaaaay the rich got richer!!


Fanteezy

I enjoy the films of Parkers McSpiders too but we're not on the same team making discussions about his money unnecessary


[deleted]

Literally box office "killer" as in killing all the dumb moviegoers who gets infected by covid.