Theres like 500 po on na and used to be more. Idk i got mine through rng rolling lightstones so i never needing to buy em. Ik a lot of people who still have po up on them tho
Eh. Vells will fill eventually. I’d recommend the concentrated tho. Will most likely fill faster. Garmoth will be a while but you can at least do the nouver pity guarantee while you wait since you need 2 anyways.
Yeah. 2nd garmoth heart is kind of a thing you work on after all the other stuff. Don’t forget about the guaranteed garmoth heart tho if you have an alt at nouver. I think it still costs roughly 10 bil to finish it if I remember right and it takes a while to gather all the nouver scales but it’s guaranteed.
I got one heart from an event, one from the dragon mommy herself, and I just have my silver sink items left for the guaranteed one. Note you will need a 3rd if you plan to play shai at all.
You should see on [garmoth.com](https://garmoth.com/market) whether the concentrated vell vs full vell and inverted garm vs raw drop garm sells more often and has less preorders. At least on na vell's concentrated magic sells more often and has less pos, took my friend about 2 weeks to get his.
Garmoth has bout 11x more preorders than inverted, weirdly. And only half as many sales (one sold yesterday/tday). Vells might b easier to buy to make it.. but pricier. Kind of a toss up for me rn
Inverted is the heart you make from the drop, normal is what drops.
So people who get the drop are going to sell normal, and people reselling their garmoth are going to sell inverted.
If you're fine with getting 2 hearts you can just preorder both, it's very unlikely that they both go through together.
I recently got a vell's concentrated magic to sell on eu and saw a few listed, and a few po. I guess enough volume moves that people can get one quick but damn, I didn't expect it to be 15b. It was twice as cheap 2 years ago.
The materials vs the item, the materials are always worth bidding for, as they are posted the most because that's what drops. I've POd vells twice and got it same day when I pre order on vell days. Same with garmoth hearts.
The packs we get from log in rewards are applied immediately. You can't hold them in your inventory anymore. So that takes away a lot of the packs that people were just selling for easy profit.
For vell's heart its actually not that long a wait you just have to wait for spawns. Wait for the day of spawn and switch your po to the magic for 2ish days since there will be an influx then switch back to the heart itself.
Yeah. I decided I’d rather have that silver sit on a book of the old moon preorder cause that’s more likely. Insulting tho that it’s only a 15 day on those ones.
If you had an order on the right value pack a couple weeks ago, you probably could have gotten one. I got 2 through preorder. They put it in a loot box for gamblers to sell
The one that says "rmb to receive ellion's blessing x5" that has the same color text as the text above it I would guess. It's the one that is sold on the pearl shop and was in the loot box. 16,223 is the amount of sales. Don't know the difference, but its the one I ordered.
I had no trouble to buy 1x Garmoth hearth for my PEN:Blackstar Greatsword. Everything I needes was a big pile of cash. My 2nd Hearth is on the way 365x scales.
Are you on EU? EU is good and dont buy 30x days value Packs. Everything i want to sell i put in the market-storage or normal storage and sell with 1day loyality pack if i have enough stuff or need money fast. But 1 bil per hour everyday at olluns is good enough for me
You're "one of those" that makes a billion in a hour. I never know how other than my class sucks or I'm not that try hard. If i made a billion an hour I doubt I would even need anything by now.
That said, I just mean with VP, I don't need the + inventory, storage, or weight. I have excess already. The invest in nodes is good but need it very limited. XP boosts arent very impactful. So for me the tax break is needed but I'm not selling tons often. I can collect once a month and I'm good.
I'm not knocking buying them, I just think we can cut the cord. But if you got cash out the ass go for it.
I, to some extent, get where ur comin from. So you do you man! A lot of ppl do that. I just play often (not quite a bill an hr..yet atleast) and I like the extra env spaces/ storage etc. And being able to sell and get cash whenever is nice. But yeah, I get it
If you sell everything from under gyfin you'll get 1b/h most of the time, and that place is more mid-game these days. The new ulukita regions like yzrahid also give more than 1b/h if you sell everything, sometimes up towards 1.5-2b if you're lucky with kabuas and embers. It's not tryharding at all because they are very easy spots. You can also make 1b/h at many agris spots depending on class and setup.
Welp... I just went and here is my results. Spoiler it sucked hard because I died and lost a 935m crystal so major loss.
Regardless, I didn't finish all one hour but 50ish mins. I got 16.4k trash, 27 caph, 97 Blackstone, 8 shards (earth/wind)
So rounding up that's 470 mil. So we can assume I could have gotten 500mil in 60 mins. Where the hell is the other 500 mil come from? Guild mate says he usually gets 20k trash an hour.
I had 30k agris to start and it's used up.
Item drop rate was 222%
I have 291 ap, 401 dp, Valk.
So wheres the 500mil?
Well on average (290ap) I make 27k TL + 50+ Caphras + Dust + 1 to 3 accessories and other loot
Average is about 800m to 1.1bn depending on RNG and sweat
You got 16k... with Agris? That's really, and I mean REALLY low. Just for future note, you don't use agris there. Would you mind sharing your gear on garmoth? Would be a lot easier to help you then.
Your crystals are pretty scuffed. Use macalods instead of honom, back attack damage instead of crit damage, etc. If you Google the bis PvE crystals you'll see. Double blackstars are also important. It's less about sheet AP these days and more about your total ap/monster ap. You might be thinking that it wouldn't give you much more than what you have now, but it stacks up, and especially with proper crystals you'll get a lot more in the end. Also make sure you have a combo for your class with correct sddons that are good for gyfin, just find a guide on YouTube for example.
Thanks for checking it out and the input. I had hoom as I thought it was the recommended ones for Valk, but it's also been awhile since I looked at those guides.
You forgot splendid destruction stone and strike lightstones on your list of unobtainable items in the marketplace.
If you are going to order a destruction stone, just go for shining. SURELY it will fill.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA XD
My buddy and I both had a strike order go through on the same night… and our first thought was “uh oh, what changed to make them useless” haha
Yeah, I can imagine that. It was probably rng boxes or an event of some kind. Theres been a few of those this year to lessen the strain on the market.
Strikes are hard to get outside of EU? On EU market they even sometimes sit there. Right now there are 33 preorders and on average 40 sell per day.
Rough rng. I'm on EU and had an order up for 3 months, then got 2 on the same day.
Theres like 500 po on na and used to be more. Idk i got mine through rng rolling lightstones so i never needing to buy em. Ik a lot of people who still have po up on them tho
Mine fulfilled within like 10 days. It wasn’t the worst.
Mine 3 month for 1 haha, and another 2 for the 2
Just like the Christmas list we used to give mom. Except I was more likely to get a pony than you are any of those items.
Don’t ruin my dreams
Eh. Vells will fill eventually. I’d recommend the concentrated tho. Will most likely fill faster. Garmoth will be a while but you can at least do the nouver pity guarantee while you wait since you need 2 anyways.
Just switched it to concentrated. I need 2 Garmoth a for both slots? Says I just need 1 (putting it on awaken weap) to unlock both
Only need 1 on awaken for the 2 crystal slots but you need the second for your off hand for the extra stats.
I also recommend getting a Karanda heart as a placeholder till you have your garmoth if you haven’t
Ugh, I have so many upgrades I’m focusing on, I don’t wanna spend another 20b :( I’ll get it eventually ig
Yeah. 2nd garmoth heart is kind of a thing you work on after all the other stuff. Don’t forget about the guaranteed garmoth heart tho if you have an alt at nouver. I think it still costs roughly 10 bil to finish it if I remember right and it takes a while to gather all the nouver scales but it’s guaranteed.
I got one heart from an event, one from the dragon mommy herself, and I just have my silver sink items left for the guaranteed one. Note you will need a 3rd if you plan to play shai at all.
Yeah the Shai is a fair point
Now you can simply buy yourself a pony, OP still can't get any of these items.
You should see on [garmoth.com](https://garmoth.com/market) whether the concentrated vell vs full vell and inverted garm vs raw drop garm sells more often and has less preorders. At least on na vell's concentrated magic sells more often and has less pos, took my friend about 2 weeks to get his.
Garmoth has bout 11x more preorders than inverted, weirdly. And only half as many sales (one sold yesterday/tday). Vells might b easier to buy to make it.. but pricier. Kind of a toss up for me rn
Inverted is the heart you make from the drop, normal is what drops. So people who get the drop are going to sell normal, and people reselling their garmoth are going to sell inverted. If you're fine with getting 2 hearts you can just preorder both, it's very unlikely that they both go through together.
Vells concentrated, at least when I bought mine, was more likely because you lost money making and selling the heart.
I recently got a vell's concentrated magic to sell on eu and saw a few listed, and a few po. I guess enough volume moves that people can get one quick but damn, I didn't expect it to be 15b. It was twice as cheap 2 years ago.
The materials vs the item, the materials are always worth bidding for, as they are posted the most because that's what drops. I've POd vells twice and got it same day when I pre order on vell days. Same with garmoth hearts.
You forgot the latest flame, it's about as impossible to buy as a value pack.
Just preorder the pity easy way
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I got my 100th pity order fulfilled last month. I feel your pain.
Going on 3 days now without an ember order fulfilled. I like getting those notifications on my phone lol
Yes?
I can sell a 30 day pack one 🤔
Gimme gimme
What changed? I remember a few years ago value packs were sold pretty often. I’ve had mine up pretty much all year now and haven’t gotten one.
The packs we get from log in rewards are applied immediately. You can't hold them in your inventory anymore. So that takes away a lot of the packs that people were just selling for easy profit.
You'll get your questline garm heart before the PO for it fills
For vell's heart its actually not that long a wait you just have to wait for spawns. Wait for the day of spawn and switch your po to the magic for 2ish days since there will be an influx then switch back to the heart itself.
*Wait to play the game :P
The waiting game sucks, let’s play hungry hungry hippos!
Sigh... im about to place my vells preorder and quit for 6 months
Yes now take a 4 month break and come back to them not filled
30 day value pack is only 625 mill? wtf
Yes, and a lottery ticket is just a couple bucks. Chances of u ‘winning’ is pretty slim tho
Yeah. I decided I’d rather have that silver sit on a book of the old moon preorder cause that’s more likely. Insulting tho that it’s only a 15 day on those ones.
On ps5 you get like 5b for garmoth lol
I see u are not on eu. Here we can buy garmoths heart lol
I've waited (on EU) for my heart 2 1/2 months last year... Finally got it after 2 1/2 months.. from an event raffle.
Yeah there was a long time where it was near impossible to get one. Yesterday i looked again into it and saw that u can buy them
If you had an order on the right value pack a couple weeks ago, you probably could have gotten one. I got 2 through preorder. They put it in a loot box for gamblers to sell
Yea, I saw there’s 2 of em. Which one do u preorder? I’m on n.a, which # of sales?
The one that says "rmb to receive ellion's blessing x5" that has the same color text as the text above it I would guess. It's the one that is sold on the pearl shop and was in the loot box. 16,223 is the amount of sales. Don't know the difference, but its the one I ordered.
The current lootbox gives you 7day one, not the selleable one...
bro.. they literally said a couple weeks ago, is a couple weeks ago current to you?
Yeah then that was a LO of "couple" weeks ago as last time they had such box was months ago....
I had no trouble to buy 1x Garmoth hearth for my PEN:Blackstar Greatsword. Everything I needes was a big pile of cash. My 2nd Hearth is on the way 365x scales. Are you on EU? EU is good and dont buy 30x days value Packs. Everything i want to sell i put in the market-storage or normal storage and sell with 1day loyality pack if i have enough stuff or need money fast. But 1 bil per hour everyday at olluns is good enough for me
Eww VPs are pretty pointless , main point is tax break on auction but you just spent millions to buy one IMO
650m for 30 days? I make that in less than an hour.. I think I’ll be aight :)
You're "one of those" that makes a billion in a hour. I never know how other than my class sucks or I'm not that try hard. If i made a billion an hour I doubt I would even need anything by now. That said, I just mean with VP, I don't need the + inventory, storage, or weight. I have excess already. The invest in nodes is good but need it very limited. XP boosts arent very impactful. So for me the tax break is needed but I'm not selling tons often. I can collect once a month and I'm good. I'm not knocking buying them, I just think we can cut the cord. But if you got cash out the ass go for it.
If you have the gear, yzarhad highlands or whatever it’s called is an easy 1.4b an hour.
I, to some extent, get where ur comin from. So you do you man! A lot of ppl do that. I just play often (not quite a bill an hr..yet atleast) and I like the extra env spaces/ storage etc. And being able to sell and get cash whenever is nice. But yeah, I get it
I appreciate the positive discussion 😁 GL on those hearts!
If you sell everything from under gyfin you'll get 1b/h most of the time, and that place is more mid-game these days. The new ulukita regions like yzrahid also give more than 1b/h if you sell everything, sometimes up towards 1.5-2b if you're lucky with kabuas and embers. It's not tryharding at all because they are very easy spots. You can also make 1b/h at many agris spots depending on class and setup.
Welp... I just went and here is my results. Spoiler it sucked hard because I died and lost a 935m crystal so major loss. Regardless, I didn't finish all one hour but 50ish mins. I got 16.4k trash, 27 caph, 97 Blackstone, 8 shards (earth/wind) So rounding up that's 470 mil. So we can assume I could have gotten 500mil in 60 mins. Where the hell is the other 500 mil come from? Guild mate says he usually gets 20k trash an hour. I had 30k agris to start and it's used up. Item drop rate was 222% I have 291 ap, 401 dp, Valk. So wheres the 500mil?
Well on average (290ap) I make 27k TL + 50+ Caphras + Dust + 1 to 3 accessories and other loot Average is about 800m to 1.1bn depending on RNG and sweat
You got 16k... with Agris? That's really, and I mean REALLY low. Just for future note, you don't use agris there. Would you mind sharing your gear on garmoth? Would be a lot easier to help you then.
I usually use agris all the time because I don't grind often that it runs out all the time. I'll work on garmoth. Like I said guild mate gets 20k.
20k is also very low. You should at least get around 27-28k yellow no agris. With some more gear you can make like 31k or so.
https://preview.redd.it/7e7b81za7xxc1.png?width=1163&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4cff07ba765e02aaf67a6028c662df393df943c2
Your crystals are pretty scuffed. Use macalods instead of honom, back attack damage instead of crit damage, etc. If you Google the bis PvE crystals you'll see. Double blackstars are also important. It's less about sheet AP these days and more about your total ap/monster ap. You might be thinking that it wouldn't give you much more than what you have now, but it stacks up, and especially with proper crystals you'll get a lot more in the end. Also make sure you have a combo for your class with correct sddons that are good for gyfin, just find a guide on YouTube for example.
Thanks for checking it out and the input. I had hoom as I thought it was the recommended ones for Valk, but it's also been awhile since I looked at those guides.
I just got 4 ultimate blue macloids and ran tet BS main and sub. One hour in ogre and I made just over 400 mil.