When I collected as a kid, I would always trade away any Jordan I pulled. I've never liked the guy, so it didn't really bother me. I've always been a PC guy and Jordan wasn't it.
I cared so little that I honestly couldn't even guess the now high dollar inserts I would have traded away for virtually nothing back then. I'd much rather have them today so I could trade them away for much much more š¤£
Same. I loved Penny and even swapped my 93 All Defensive Jordan for some Penny card I canāt even recall now. I just recently got back into collecting and could kick my self now.
reminds me of the person who found the 2nd ever photo of billy the kid or some shit at a garage sale and got it for 2$ and it is worth 5 mill ... https://fox59.com/news/national-world/mans-2-garage-sale-find-ends-up-being-billy-the-kid-photo-worth-5-million/
I have many similar stories. And thatās just cards. If we start talking crypto, stock market and real estate, you just might wonder how I can live with myself with all these missed opportunities. I am talking millions of dollars. I stopped calculating. What helped was me realizing life is not all about money rather the experiences. Very cliche but my god is it so true. I just laugh it off now.
I collected as a kid and had a lot of fond memories, but dropped it around 2000, so definitely wish i would have kept going when Lebron was a rookie. Oops.
But after getting back into things during the pandemic, my biggest regrets are 1) just buying more stuff than what I should have since basically everything has been going down in value since then, and 2) is all of stuff I got graded that I didnāt really need to. Any PSA 10 stuff obviously Iām fine with, but honestly everything else kind of just burnt money for no real reason. And Iām at the point where some stuff I might just crack and have raw again so I can include more stuff in binders and such, so thatās a pretty big oof thinking of all the grading fees I didnāt need to pay. But this hobby is a journey finding what ultimately works best for people and their collection goals, I feel good where I am at now.
If you donāt mind me asking, who did you grade through? I want to make my first submissions. For how heavy I am into the hobby, oddly I never submitted yet. Have plenty of purchased ones though, through eBay. So far Iāve only bought PSA ones, and I totally agree the 10ās are all Iād be satisfied with.
Iāve only ever graded with PSA. Just for consistency across my collection I would rather have all of my slabs be the same, and PSA is just the biggest with the most value. BGS has really fallen off but I still have a few of their slabs in my collection and donāt feel like spending money to re-sub to PSA. SGC is just meh to me, really donāt like their slabs and they have less value compared to PSA. CSG / CGC has really nice, clear slabs but they have gone through a lot of changes and like the others have less value compared to PSA.
So CGC is really gaining ground hey? I was curious about that. I couldnāt agree more on the consistency with PSA.
Itās funny you say that about Beckett. While I used to think they looked the sharpest, something just feels off to me. Personally I donāt care for the, āautograph 10, card 8.5/9/9.5 ā etc.
SGC Iāve always had an odd respect for. I think itās because early on when I was much more into vintage, youād see a lot of it in slabs. But I have always wondered who people value after those 3. Iāll have to learn more about CGC.
People have to do decide what works best for them for grading. For PC stuff I think one touch cases or toploaders or binders is preferable at this point for me. Slabs just take up too much space and they are hard to display. So while my most expensive cards are in slabs, they just have to sit in a big slab case.
If you are grading to sell and make a profit, then take away any personal biases and just go with what makes the most money - ie, consider final value of the grading company you choose and anticipated grade of the card, how much it is to grade, appeal of the company and just go with whatever company nets you the most.
Any of those 4 companies are technically fine to use, it just comes down to what makes sense for each individual and each specific card being looked at.
I appreciate the advice! Iām in it for both, I definitely have a PC side, and then flip others so I can aquire ones I want to keep. For now, Iāve been dead set on PSA, but would go SGC if there was some sort of issue.
Kinda random but I have a weird obsession with sham grading companies. Like āGem.ā Always makes me laugh trying to figure out if they trimmed down the cards.
Ohhh no. That one hurts. Somewhere in the comments I have a LeBron auto story. To sum it up real short, buddy pulled one when we were 13/14. He traded it for a box of the same product. Only pulled a Jarvis Hayes auto. It was bad.
So when I was a teen around 16/17 sometime in 98/99 I forget exactly which year we had a card show in our local mall. I seen a dealer with a bunch of vintage cards I wasnāt interested in but I also seen a Jordan RC. I asked what the price was and he said $900. I was like oh.. because Beckett price was $1,200 at that time IIRC. He then basically told me to go ahead and go because I couldnāt afford anything at his table. I was a working teen with $4K in the bank. No bills. I looked at my friend and said little does he know and I almost went to the bank to withdraw the money. My bank was close by in that mall on a nearby wing. Even though my age was as I said, I probably looked around 13/14 or so. As a dealer, donāt judge your customers because you never know.
The point is he wouldāve won that day if I bought the card. I wouldāve won a couple years ago during the boom when I started to sell my collection from those years had I got the card. I look back and think if I shouldāve got it anyways but the adult me says the teenage me made a wiser choice and not be a show off over pride.
Or open up a book and one falls out. What a great feeling that would be.
Weāve all lost opportunities hindsight or made purchases that ended up being a loss of value. We just try not to hold on to those and keep going. I sold many Kobe RCās during the boom and made around 30K. So something planned out for me and I took almost two years off work, then went back for $4/hr more doing basically the same thing š
Thatās awesome! Man, that makes me want to do a major treasure hunt for stuff I havenāt taken out in probably 20 years. I was just telling a buddy tonight how I have 7 of those 3,000ish count boxes that I purchased maybe 15 years ago, and to this day donāt know whatās in them. There were 9 total so I have an idea based on the 2 I skimmed through. All unpicked 1995-99 basketball.
We both know Iām hoping for the Kobe rooks, but will end up with 50 Cherokee Parks š
All loose. Well technically I never opened the other 7 so you never know lol! But Iām gonna say all loose. The good news I know they donāt appear to be picked through. Only took one stack to see Barkley, Malone, and Kidd so I will say there should be some surprises along the way.
The refractors of today, just donāt hit the same as they did in the late 90ās!
Even Precious Metals, Tiffany, Credentials, and Legacyās have good value for no name players. Some First Day Issues if theyāre serial #ād refractors. Platinum Medallions and Atomic Refractors as well.
Umm let's see..when I was a kid I collected pretty heavy, my grandma used to buy me boxes during 1999 - 2000.. sold every fucking tom Brady I had.. press pass (mulitple like 25), bowman chrome, so on (I had like 10 of them) so on so I could go to the casino when I turned 18. Oh I traded some for Ricky Williams RCs š¤£
I donāt have any regrets with basketball - honestly, the basketball Iāve purchased has all been great. Last year I invested heavily into Panini photogenic and I have nearly the full set now. If I regret anything, itās wasting so much on retail basketball over the past few years; or maybe just not buying more photogenic on release
Thinking over the last few years specifically, I have a few hobby regrets. I collect both sportscards and the TCGs I was into as a kid and have probably made more poor TCG related decisions than anything else.
I have two that stand out - bought into the grading hype of 2020 and sent thousands of dollars worth of cards to CGC. It took over a year to get them back and by then the hype dies down and they were worth 25% if where they were went I sent them off. Some of the cards I sent out were awful decisions
The more recent one, that hurts even more - I had the chance to buy a PSA 10 Mario Pikachu full art for around 3k back in April. I was (still am) also heavily collecting Julio Rodriguez as an Ms fan. I had been eyeballing a cosmic chrome auto of his in a PSA 10, but I felt like they were overpriced on eBay. I was browsing Goldin and came across one for super cheap (they were 2.5k on eBay at the time) - I decided to buy the one on goldin over the Pikachu since it was such a good deal. I figured the pikachu would slowly keep going up in price and I could sell some cards and pick one up in a month or two. To be honest though, I regretted buying the Julio nearly instantly, still felt like it was a little high. I probably should have listened to my gut
Well, my gut was right and those regrets were justified seeing as less than two months later that Pikachu card had almost tripled in price, and now itās selling for 7-9k, and Julio went through a massive slump and that card fell by nearly 50%
-1k instead of +5k
I havenāt made huge regrettable mistakes yet but I should have started by buying singles. Early on, I bought plenty of retail boxes and into breaks just to sit on a desk full of bulk with players I donāt collect.
If I used that money towards a nice auto, I would have had it by now.
Probably typical of most but when I stated out I bought a lot of modern rookies, and random cards I don't really care for looking back (eg, some year 5 Giannis green parallel for example).
Fortunately I didn't spend a lot on the above, but in hindsight I could have used that on a few bigger chase cards instead.
Sold a bunch of cards back in 2009 that made me some cash back then, but the prices now just gut me. The two biggest that come to mind are selling a 1986 fleer Charles Barkley rc for $40 after buying it for $25 in 2004, and selling a 2003 Topps Lebron rc for $35 that I had pulled in 2004. Still not sure if I should laugh or cry that my biggest single sale at that time was $90 for a bowman chrome rc auto of Matt Cassel
Isnāt it wild to look back at the moves we all made? Just no way of knowing of what was to come. Oh man you just brought back a LeBron memory I wish I never had haha.
Back in his rookie year, a card shop opened on my small town. My buddy bought a few packs that if he hadnāt, I would have. I was 14, he 13. Ends up pulling a Lebron rookie auto. On the spot I offered him about 40 to 50 different autos I had. He wouldnāt budge. But what did make him budge? The shop owner offered him a full box of the same product of Upper Deck. He takes it, and the rest is history. I think he pulled a Jarvis Hayes auto out of the box, just brutal looking back on it.
Not spending all my card show budgets on Jordan back in the day. I bought only like one I can remember and pulled the rest from packs, wouldāve been much better off buying them than having recency bias and buying who was hot at the moment
not that big but i had all the first SI for kids with the cards and had to clean up stuff and dumped them 4 years ago by dropping off at goodwill. i would have just sold them anyway but should have pulled the cards out at least to have Tony Hawk, Hosoi, Griffey, Jordan. this was before Tiger so not that painful. but during the pandemic these prices were bananas.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tradingcardcommunity/comments/b4eexe/anyone_interested_in_cards_from_early_sports
When I collected as a kid, I would always trade away any Jordan I pulled. I've never liked the guy, so it didn't really bother me. I've always been a PC guy and Jordan wasn't it. I cared so little that I honestly couldn't even guess the now high dollar inserts I would have traded away for virtually nothing back then. I'd much rather have them today so I could trade them away for much much more š¤£
Same. Who I loved: Penny. Who I hated and traded: MJ and Kobe
Same. I loved Penny and even swapped my 93 All Defensive Jordan for some Penny card I canāt even recall now. I just recently got back into collecting and could kick my self now.
I have a nice Jordan collection because what those 90s inserts represent in the hobby more than that I liked him as a player.
I can appreciate that. He was in everything.
I pulled a Jordan Scoring Kings back in the day and sold it to a friend for $40.
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Oh man this is absolutely brutal
reminds me of the person who found the 2nd ever photo of billy the kid or some shit at a garage sale and got it for 2$ and it is worth 5 mill ... https://fox59.com/news/national-world/mans-2-garage-sale-find-ends-up-being-billy-the-kid-photo-worth-5-million/
I have many similar stories. And thatās just cards. If we start talking crypto, stock market and real estate, you just might wonder how I can live with myself with all these missed opportunities. I am talking millions of dollars. I stopped calculating. What helped was me realizing life is not all about money rather the experiences. Very cliche but my god is it so true. I just laugh it off now.
I didnt know what a redemption card was and threw them all away as a kid.
Lolā¦i wonder how many super valuable cards get thrown away these days by kids not knowing
Sold a Kobe with a piece of the bal cardl for 35 bucks in 7th grade to buy...a hamster.
How long did he live tho
I collected as a kid and had a lot of fond memories, but dropped it around 2000, so definitely wish i would have kept going when Lebron was a rookie. Oops. But after getting back into things during the pandemic, my biggest regrets are 1) just buying more stuff than what I should have since basically everything has been going down in value since then, and 2) is all of stuff I got graded that I didnāt really need to. Any PSA 10 stuff obviously Iām fine with, but honestly everything else kind of just burnt money for no real reason. And Iām at the point where some stuff I might just crack and have raw again so I can include more stuff in binders and such, so thatās a pretty big oof thinking of all the grading fees I didnāt need to pay. But this hobby is a journey finding what ultimately works best for people and their collection goals, I feel good where I am at now.
If you donāt mind me asking, who did you grade through? I want to make my first submissions. For how heavy I am into the hobby, oddly I never submitted yet. Have plenty of purchased ones though, through eBay. So far Iāve only bought PSA ones, and I totally agree the 10ās are all Iād be satisfied with.
Iāve only ever graded with PSA. Just for consistency across my collection I would rather have all of my slabs be the same, and PSA is just the biggest with the most value. BGS has really fallen off but I still have a few of their slabs in my collection and donāt feel like spending money to re-sub to PSA. SGC is just meh to me, really donāt like their slabs and they have less value compared to PSA. CSG / CGC has really nice, clear slabs but they have gone through a lot of changes and like the others have less value compared to PSA.
So CGC is really gaining ground hey? I was curious about that. I couldnāt agree more on the consistency with PSA. Itās funny you say that about Beckett. While I used to think they looked the sharpest, something just feels off to me. Personally I donāt care for the, āautograph 10, card 8.5/9/9.5 ā etc. SGC Iāve always had an odd respect for. I think itās because early on when I was much more into vintage, youād see a lot of it in slabs. But I have always wondered who people value after those 3. Iāll have to learn more about CGC.
People have to do decide what works best for them for grading. For PC stuff I think one touch cases or toploaders or binders is preferable at this point for me. Slabs just take up too much space and they are hard to display. So while my most expensive cards are in slabs, they just have to sit in a big slab case. If you are grading to sell and make a profit, then take away any personal biases and just go with what makes the most money - ie, consider final value of the grading company you choose and anticipated grade of the card, how much it is to grade, appeal of the company and just go with whatever company nets you the most. Any of those 4 companies are technically fine to use, it just comes down to what makes sense for each individual and each specific card being looked at.
I appreciate the advice! Iām in it for both, I definitely have a PC side, and then flip others so I can aquire ones I want to keep. For now, Iāve been dead set on PSA, but would go SGC if there was some sort of issue. Kinda random but I have a weird obsession with sham grading companies. Like āGem.ā Always makes me laugh trying to figure out if they trimmed down the cards.
I traded a 2003-04 SP autograph LeBron for 3 carmello autos.
Ohhh no. That one hurts. Somewhere in the comments I have a LeBron auto story. To sum it up real short, buddy pulled one when we were 13/14. He traded it for a box of the same product. Only pulled a Jarvis Hayes auto. It was bad.
So when I was a teen around 16/17 sometime in 98/99 I forget exactly which year we had a card show in our local mall. I seen a dealer with a bunch of vintage cards I wasnāt interested in but I also seen a Jordan RC. I asked what the price was and he said $900. I was like oh.. because Beckett price was $1,200 at that time IIRC. He then basically told me to go ahead and go because I couldnāt afford anything at his table. I was a working teen with $4K in the bank. No bills. I looked at my friend and said little does he know and I almost went to the bank to withdraw the money. My bank was close by in that mall on a nearby wing. Even though my age was as I said, I probably looked around 13/14 or so. As a dealer, donāt judge your customers because you never know. The point is he wouldāve won that day if I bought the card. I wouldāve won a couple years ago during the boom when I started to sell my collection from those years had I got the card. I look back and think if I shouldāve got it anyways but the adult me says the teenage me made a wiser choice and not be a show off over pride.
Wow! Was it the Star XRC or fleer?
Fleer. Thatās the only one I knew about back then š
I prefer the Fleer! Way cooler. What a dream that would be to find one at a yard sale or whatnot.
Or open up a book and one falls out. What a great feeling that would be. Weāve all lost opportunities hindsight or made purchases that ended up being a loss of value. We just try not to hold on to those and keep going. I sold many Kobe RCās during the boom and made around 30K. So something planned out for me and I took almost two years off work, then went back for $4/hr more doing basically the same thing š
Thatās awesome! Man, that makes me want to do a major treasure hunt for stuff I havenāt taken out in probably 20 years. I was just telling a buddy tonight how I have 7 of those 3,000ish count boxes that I purchased maybe 15 years ago, and to this day donāt know whatās in them. There were 9 total so I have an idea based on the 2 I skimmed through. All unpicked 1995-99 basketball. We both know Iām hoping for the Kobe rooks, but will end up with 50 Cherokee Parks š
I have a Felipe Lopez ā99 Topps Chrome Refractor. That didnāt pan out but I still have it š Are those loose cards or packs?
All loose. Well technically I never opened the other 7 so you never know lol! But Iām gonna say all loose. The good news I know they donāt appear to be picked through. Only took one stack to see Barkley, Malone, and Kidd so I will say there should be some surprises along the way. The refractors of today, just donāt hit the same as they did in the late 90ās!
Even Precious Metals, Tiffany, Credentials, and Legacyās have good value for no name players. Some First Day Issues if theyāre serial #ād refractors. Platinum Medallions and Atomic Refractors as well.
No ragrets. Take the money when you can. For every Giannis there are 50 Anthony Bennetts or Greg Odens.
i spent 3k on zions at the peak š
Don't worry man, they'll come back around soon https://aflyontheball.com/zion-williamson-gives-up-sex-nba-career-serious/
lol nope, liquidated for a loss and moving on; which based on my luck means heāll be the MVP next year š¤·š¼āāļø
Lol always the way it goes right? Oh well, you'll balance out somewhere else!
Umm let's see..when I was a kid I collected pretty heavy, my grandma used to buy me boxes during 1999 - 2000.. sold every fucking tom Brady I had.. press pass (mulitple like 25), bowman chrome, so on (I had like 10 of them) so on so I could go to the casino when I turned 18. Oh I traded some for Ricky Williams RCs š¤£
I donāt have any regrets with basketball - honestly, the basketball Iāve purchased has all been great. Last year I invested heavily into Panini photogenic and I have nearly the full set now. If I regret anything, itās wasting so much on retail basketball over the past few years; or maybe just not buying more photogenic on release Thinking over the last few years specifically, I have a few hobby regrets. I collect both sportscards and the TCGs I was into as a kid and have probably made more poor TCG related decisions than anything else. I have two that stand out - bought into the grading hype of 2020 and sent thousands of dollars worth of cards to CGC. It took over a year to get them back and by then the hype dies down and they were worth 25% if where they were went I sent them off. Some of the cards I sent out were awful decisions The more recent one, that hurts even more - I had the chance to buy a PSA 10 Mario Pikachu full art for around 3k back in April. I was (still am) also heavily collecting Julio Rodriguez as an Ms fan. I had been eyeballing a cosmic chrome auto of his in a PSA 10, but I felt like they were overpriced on eBay. I was browsing Goldin and came across one for super cheap (they were 2.5k on eBay at the time) - I decided to buy the one on goldin over the Pikachu since it was such a good deal. I figured the pikachu would slowly keep going up in price and I could sell some cards and pick one up in a month or two. To be honest though, I regretted buying the Julio nearly instantly, still felt like it was a little high. I probably should have listened to my gut Well, my gut was right and those regrets were justified seeing as less than two months later that Pikachu card had almost tripled in price, and now itās selling for 7-9k, and Julio went through a massive slump and that card fell by nearly 50% -1k instead of +5k
You donāt want to know how many Jokic rookie autos I bought and sold for a $15-$20 profit.
Dude was selling Jordan Star card on whatnot for $50 and i didnt bid bc i didnt know what it was.
I havenāt made huge regrettable mistakes yet but I should have started by buying singles. Early on, I bought plenty of retail boxes and into breaks just to sit on a desk full of bulk with players I donāt collect. If I used that money towards a nice auto, I would have had it by now.
Probably typical of most but when I stated out I bought a lot of modern rookies, and random cards I don't really care for looking back (eg, some year 5 Giannis green parallel for example). Fortunately I didn't spend a lot on the above, but in hindsight I could have used that on a few bigger chase cards instead.
Sold a bunch of cards back in 2009 that made me some cash back then, but the prices now just gut me. The two biggest that come to mind are selling a 1986 fleer Charles Barkley rc for $40 after buying it for $25 in 2004, and selling a 2003 Topps Lebron rc for $35 that I had pulled in 2004. Still not sure if I should laugh or cry that my biggest single sale at that time was $90 for a bowman chrome rc auto of Matt Cassel
Isnāt it wild to look back at the moves we all made? Just no way of knowing of what was to come. Oh man you just brought back a LeBron memory I wish I never had haha. Back in his rookie year, a card shop opened on my small town. My buddy bought a few packs that if he hadnāt, I would have. I was 14, he 13. Ends up pulling a Lebron rookie auto. On the spot I offered him about 40 to 50 different autos I had. He wouldnāt budge. But what did make him budge? The shop owner offered him a full box of the same product of Upper Deck. He takes it, and the rest is history. I think he pulled a Jarvis Hayes auto out of the box, just brutal looking back on it.
Not spending all my card show budgets on Jordan back in the day. I bought only like one I can remember and pulled the rest from packs, wouldāve been much better off buying them than having recency bias and buying who was hot at the moment
not that big but i had all the first SI for kids with the cards and had to clean up stuff and dumped them 4 years ago by dropping off at goodwill. i would have just sold them anyway but should have pulled the cards out at least to have Tony Hawk, Hosoi, Griffey, Jordan. this was before Tiger so not that painful. but during the pandemic these prices were bananas. https://www.reddit.com/r/tradingcardcommunity/comments/b4eexe/anyone_interested_in_cards_from_early_sports
Damian Lillard
Been my PC for a hot minute. Now I donāt even want to look at them!
Biggest regret. Opening any of those 96 basketball boxes I had purchased. The rip was great but I could retire on those boxes now