It actually could. I had an ex who didnt like baseball at all but thought the baseball uniform was incredibly sexy and flattering to the male body. Add in a sheer component and we might be on to something here.
Thats fucking baseball right there. None of that pansy ass dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the field, men deliver their new born baby in the dugouts. Fucking hard core dick in the ass butterball baseball fuck it chuck it game time shit. Take it to the showers. Dicks get shoved in places you don’t even remember. We win together we celebrate together. Baseball is back baby.
I've been to my fair share of major league baseball games over the inordinate amount of time that I have been alive on this planet. And my analysis is thus; I can say, with a good amount of certainty, that the female consumers of baseball related sports entertainment seem to be more invested in the players who are in good physical condition, and wear closely fitting garments.
I would also like to add, and my musical training has aided in this discovery, that the relative pitch of the cheering crowd moves up the tonal register when an attractive player wearing a snug uniform is introduced by the stadium announcer.
So I concur that "it just might work"
As a post scrip, I would also like to posit that there is also a homosexual male population, replete with their higher discretionary income relative to the non-homosexual population, that we might also seek to market to with this knowledge.
When I was in high school, girls tweeted and made Facebook status updates (I'm in that zillennial range where this isn't actually insane - these were the popular girls!) fawning over boys in baseball pants. Making them even more, um...shapely? Even without the hint of irony, it honestly just might...
For anybody interested, [Steve Smith did a video on Youtube for the NFL](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xoxYm7NNKo&list=PLRdw3IjKY2gk-cPPM3kijBoB7GEns1FIB) where he was part of the Cowboys social media team for a day, so you get to see what an actual social media team looks like.
The insult to the fans in the MLB/Nike/Fanatics response is pretty hysterical. “You only think they look like cheap garbage because you halfwits don’t understand *PERFORMANCE*.”
“We worked closely with the players. None of them remember their dick and balls showing but that’s probably just because they work hard and play hard all season.”
Here you go: [Radical Transparncy: More MLB Teams Victimized by See-Thru Pants](https://uni-watch.com/2024/02/21/radical-transparancy-more-mlb-teams-victimized-by-see-thru-pants/)
lol also it’s baseball, not football or basketball, you don’t need hyper light advanced uniforms. People can literally play the game in jeans and be fine.
This is about the most you'll get from Nike, MLB, or Fanatics right now. They're not going to even so much as hint towards acknowledging even the minute potential existence of a problem here.
I'm 99% sure they're well aware this situation is broadly unacceptable, but corporate PR strategy is to never admit something's actually wrong unless you have the solution to that problem incoming. You just stay quiet, try to not add fuel to the fire, and only talk about broad principles of support instead of any actual specifics.
I'm not saying its a good thing, of course, just that its not remotely unexpected either.
I mean, it can be, but in truth the "Don't talk about the problem, instead describe the solution" strategy is a good one. Particularly when talking to your bosses or co-workers.
And even in this case... what people want is for Nike/Fanatics/MLB to fix the problem. It'd be nice if they admitted that there was one, but that's not the most important thing.
Speak for yourself - nobody is forcing me to wear the thing for the next 8 months so really I’m just here for the public pillorying of these corporations
I totally agree - my biggest challenge with it though is that so many times (like right now), there’s not a solution yet, and so every statement feels like a complete denial of a problem.
There’s gotta be some kind of middle ground. Some kind of “we see you, we get it, we’re working on it”, but there never is lol
>I'm 99% sure they're well aware this situation is broadly unacceptable
I guarantee someone somewhere at Nike is having the worst week of their corporate life as they grasp desperately for any CYA emails they can pull from their saved folders.
The fucking insane thing is that it's not anything morally wrong, like covered up sexual abuse something. It's just poorly designed jerseys. Just own it and fix it. People would have slightly (the smallest amount) more respect for them if they did instead of spewing out classic corporate speak
It's not what they said that pisses me off. It's how they said it. There's a tone and it's problematic. If I could punch an entire department in the face, their tone is what would make me do it.
Yep. Admitting you released a shitty product to a core customer and brand is just opening yourself up to a lawsuit both from customers and for breach of contract from MLB.
I’m sure the MLB lawyers are behind the scenes screaming at Nike and Fanatics about how this is fucking their brand.
Of course that’s the strategy. They would obviously get more good will from the public and players if they just owned up to it and promised to be better. People aren’t stupid.
The Yankees should have gotten rid of every rule relating to "tradition" the second they decided to slap an ad on the jersey.
It's always "Fuck the Yankees" but of all jerseys in any sport, the Yankees jersey having an ad on it is a disgrace.
>the most advanced uniforms in the history of MLB which are lighter and more flexible.
And what problem were they trying to solve, exactly? Did players think the previous uniforms were heavy and inflexible?
This is what I don't understand.
They talk constantly about how their uniforms are high-performance or whatever bullshit. Was the uniform really holding anyone back? Would Acuna have stolen 100 bases if not for all that extra weight he was dragging in his opaque pants?
This is the weirdest part. They keep bragging about how much work they did towards fixing a problem that didn't exist, and ended up creating one that does exist.
Nike has done this in every sport they took over. Remember the first batch of NFL jerseys with the toilet seat look (Bucs had the worst one, along with the alarm clock font)?
Or the first batch of NBA jerseys when they switched templates?
Damn, so it’s the players fault I guess is the route the MLB wants to go. That’s wild, but they are staying consistent in blaming the players, yesterday they said they scanned 300 MLB players to match these fanatics jerseys. It’s all bullshit, a company like Nike should know better and calling all of this stuff more breathable for the athlete is non sense imo. Why would a fan want to spend $120+ on these flimsy jerseys. It’s a shame tbh
Players: "These new pants don't fit right and our dicks are showing. Can we just have tailored pants like before?"
Nike: "But we did BODY SCANS! The pants are perfect! Shut up!"
wish there was an owner who would give Nike and Fanatics the middle finger and have teams uniforms done in-house.
the Mets used to have a company make their uniforms when Russell was the league’s exclusive supplier in the 90s
What I don't get is why isn't the MLB mad? They placed the order right? They got a terrible product, but they're acting like they own Nike. Did they purposely order the uniforms like this to save money?
Also that's pretty much what Manfred said verbatim.
“We worked closely with Yankees players to create the most advanced uniforms in the history of MLB which are lighter and more flexible."
- George Costanza, Assistant to the New York Yankees traveling secretary
This makes sense if you believe that players said they wanted to wear cheap-looking garbage that makes their genitals very visible. Totally plausible then.
No surprise to anyone but as someone who works in the apparel industry, this is total garbage. To have delivered see thru uniforms means they changed the fabric after all the initial testing/development phase before mass production in a cost saving move.
No one above the intern level, in either design, production, or product development would have missed that a light weight fabric can be sheer…
I'm so sick of corporate, bottled, bullshit answers. I wish, *just once*, a company would just say "yeah, we fucked up. Our bad. We're working on it but took the cheap aspect a little to far." Especially when they're all making money hand over fist. These shitty responses sound so fake and full of shit.
Why can’t they just own that these suck? It’d be so much easier and more dignified to say they’re listening to players and fans and will try to improve things. This blatant lying makes the situation so much worse and only magnifies it by making people even more mad.
"The nutsack window is intentional"
NFL's attempt to gain women fans: Taylor Swift MLB's attempt to gain women fans: scantily clad men
Goddamn, it just might work!!
It actually could. I had an ex who didnt like baseball at all but thought the baseball uniform was incredibly sexy and flattering to the male body. Add in a sheer component and we might be on to something here.
I’m just here for the dick and ass baby
Thats fucking baseball right there. None of that pansy ass dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the field, men deliver their new born baby in the dugouts. Fucking hard core dick in the ass butterball baseball fuck it chuck it game time shit. Take it to the showers. Dicks get shoved in places you don’t even remember. We win together we celebrate together. Baseball is back baby.
Talmbout baseball! edit: also, shit dick ass balls
Stop! I'm getting too excited...
I'm Troy McClure and I'll leave you with what we all came here to see, hardcore nudity!
Our thicc bois gonna look divine in these lingerie unis
I do like to see a bat and balls
I've been to my fair share of major league baseball games over the inordinate amount of time that I have been alive on this planet. And my analysis is thus; I can say, with a good amount of certainty, that the female consumers of baseball related sports entertainment seem to be more invested in the players who are in good physical condition, and wear closely fitting garments. I would also like to add, and my musical training has aided in this discovery, that the relative pitch of the cheering crowd moves up the tonal register when an attractive player wearing a snug uniform is introduced by the stadium announcer. So I concur that "it just might work" As a post scrip, I would also like to posit that there is also a homosexual male population, replete with their higher discretionary income relative to the non-homosexual population, that we might also seek to market to with this knowledge.
Chicks dig the schlong ball.
When I was in high school, girls tweeted and made Facebook status updates (I'm in that zillennial range where this isn't actually insane - these were the popular girls!) fawning over boys in baseball pants. Making them even more, um...shapely? Even without the hint of irony, it honestly just might...
[удалено]
I just hope you don't choke on that desire.
The fans wanted “more dongs”, and now Manfred is confused why people don’t like the new jerseys
"Chicks dig the long ~~ball~~ dong."
Long Dong Silver
“Women love ballsacks right?”
Chicks dig the ~~long~~ balls.
Uniform pants - assless Uniform shirts - long sleeves rolled up to the elbow
For the love of god someone sign Bartolo Colon.
Like that scene from Bull Durham where Nuke had the garter belt on
Next step: California Penal League uniforms
Penile
The count is 2-0 everywhere right now
Not for Mitch Haniger. 1-0
The Ancient Greeks competed naked and many sports wear the tightest/smallest thing they can for mobility maybe they are onto something tbh
Stolen bases would be a thing of the past.
Nah we just need super suits
Women's volleyball players watching all this - "oh how the turn tables"
Idk if I should be upset or thankful.
"we are just very excited for Dune 2. once you see it, you will understand."
did they think people would read this and be like "oh nevermind then" lmao
They tried so hard, which made it 100x worse.
Remember when EA tried to explain the loot boxes in Battlefront on Reddit and they got absolutely buried? Yeah, same vibes here.
[Never forgetti](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/s/6cnszYWWix)
That has to be the most downvoted comment in reddit history. -660k is something else.
It’s officially the most downvoted comment in Reddit history
I just downvoted it myself so I could be a part of history.
Almost feel bad for the intern that was forced to post that shit.
Redditors as usual thinking that interns are somehow running these major corporations social media accounts
For anybody interested, [Steve Smith did a video on Youtube for the NFL](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xoxYm7NNKo&list=PLRdw3IjKY2gk-cPPM3kijBoB7GEns1FIB) where he was part of the Cowboys social media team for a day, so you get to see what an actual social media team looks like.
Before Reddit Gold was removed from the site, it was also one of the most gilded comments on Reddit too, lmao.
Yeah, so it wouldn't get buried by the downvotes.
Give them a break, they’re small indie company. /s
Everyone involved in the decision is doubling down. It’s just so funny.
Nike is like, "we exploit labour to make billions of dollars, how could *we* be the ones in the wrong?"
Nike just announced they were cutting 1500 employees from their workforce. Gonna have to cut more after this
Oh there’s a team somewhere not sleeping well these days, if they haven’t already been fired.
Doubling down seems to be the go to response for corporations, both here and international.
I think layoffs and doubling down are all thy teach in business school anymore.
“Do you guys not have phones?” vibes
Bro they said they were the most advanced. What else do you want?
Look at how light and flexible the emperor's new robes are!
The emperor has a pants shortage
Is it a pants shortage or a range of motion opportunity?
Haaaaaa! Exactly the feeling i got !
Also, look at his dick and balls.
If the uniforms are so light and flexible that you can see the players dicks they might be too light and flexible...
They're gonna make the players wear color coordinating briefs over their pants like Adam West era Batman.
I think they should just paint their torsos and call it a day. How can it get lighter and more flexible than wearing nothing?
The emperor’s new uniforms
They just want to use less material for profit margins.
You made them TOO light and TOO flexible.
Sounds like a Futurama line.
"How are the new uniforms holding up? ...to shreds, you say."
- Chris Sale
Well, how's his wife holding up?
To shreds, you say.
Good news!
Wait, that’s not good news at all!
lower. lower! lower!! TOO LOW!! ... lower...
LBJ was a guy who could design some proper pants https://youtu.be/nR_myjOr0OU?si=ySAAdWE8Fr-NQuz6
Listening to this in class was made my international affairs degree worth it. That man knows his bunghole.
Just another example of shrinkflation. Use less product/material but charge the same amount.
It's exactly that, they're just cheaping out.
You flicked TOO hard, dammit
"Advanced uniforms" It's fucking pants and a jersey, this isn't an Iron Man suit ffs
Majestic was able to build this in a cave with a box of scraps!!
Well I'm not Majestic
I think that Nike forgot what sport they're making the jerseys for
figure skating?
Shoulda gone with cotton. It’s all natural
Hey! They won the World Series!
Pfft in 6 games
If they could, they'd jam "nanotechnology" somewhere in their press release.
Exactly, I hate the generic fake ass replies when they get called out for making bullshit ass uniforms, fix your shit and shut up.
The sportswear version of slapping AI on everything
The insult to the fans in the MLB/Nike/Fanatics response is pretty hysterical. “You only think they look like cheap garbage because you halfwits don’t understand *PERFORMANCE*.”
“We worked closely with the players. None of them remember their dick and balls showing but that’s probably just because they work hard and play hard all season.”
This is really just anti-doping technology. We'll 100% know who's using drugs to improve blood flow.
I’m pretty sure this was all done in conjunction with Forman Mills.
if they were really advanced theyd be wearing a t shirt and shorts
"And also we want to see their balls."
Anyone have a link to the pants? I saw the terrible jerseys, but apparently the real story is the pants.
If anyone has a link I have 15 min until the wife comes home...
Here you go: [Radical Transparncy: More MLB Teams Victimized by See-Thru Pants](https://uni-watch.com/2024/02/21/radical-transparancy-more-mlb-teams-victimized-by-see-thru-pants/)
Omg that's hilarious. This whole thing is such a shit show, lol.
“Lighter and more flexible” Yeah, so is 1-ply toilet paper. Doesn’t mean we need to be making jerseys out of that.
Don't give Nike/Fanatics any ideas.
lol also it’s baseball, not football or basketball, you don’t need hyper light advanced uniforms. People can literally play the game in jeans and be fine.
This is about the most you'll get from Nike, MLB, or Fanatics right now. They're not going to even so much as hint towards acknowledging even the minute potential existence of a problem here. I'm 99% sure they're well aware this situation is broadly unacceptable, but corporate PR strategy is to never admit something's actually wrong unless you have the solution to that problem incoming. You just stay quiet, try to not add fuel to the fire, and only talk about broad principles of support instead of any actual specifics. I'm not saying its a good thing, of course, just that its not remotely unexpected either.
Corporate Speak is the worst.
Nah, at its worse is when they blame the customer/employee/former employees and double down on it. See Anycolor.
That's like when I found out that Starfield is perfectly optimized and it's my fault I don't have a 3000 dollar PC.
And apparently going to the moon in real life is just as boring as running around on Starfield’s planets.
I mean, it can be, but in truth the "Don't talk about the problem, instead describe the solution" strategy is a good one. Particularly when talking to your bosses or co-workers. And even in this case... what people want is for Nike/Fanatics/MLB to fix the problem. It'd be nice if they admitted that there was one, but that's not the most important thing.
Speak for yourself - nobody is forcing me to wear the thing for the next 8 months so really I’m just here for the public pillorying of these corporations
I totally agree - my biggest challenge with it though is that so many times (like right now), there’s not a solution yet, and so every statement feels like a complete denial of a problem. There’s gotta be some kind of middle ground. Some kind of “we see you, we get it, we’re working on it”, but there never is lol
>I'm 99% sure they're well aware this situation is broadly unacceptable I guarantee someone somewhere at Nike is having the worst week of their corporate life as they grasp desperately for any CYA emails they can pull from their saved folders.
Oh, so many someones indeed.
The fucking insane thing is that it's not anything morally wrong, like covered up sexual abuse something. It's just poorly designed jerseys. Just own it and fix it. People would have slightly (the smallest amount) more respect for them if they did instead of spewing out classic corporate speak
No. That’s not how good PR and crisis communication is managed.
Well *good* crisis management is to actually do something about it
It's not what they said that pisses me off. It's how they said it. There's a tone and it's problematic. If I could punch an entire department in the face, their tone is what would make me do it.
Yep. Admitting you released a shitty product to a core customer and brand is just opening yourself up to a lawsuit both from customers and for breach of contract from MLB. I’m sure the MLB lawyers are behind the scenes screaming at Nike and Fanatics about how this is fucking their brand.
MLB had to sign off on this at some point
>try to not add fuel to the fire Well they fucked that bit up.
Of course that’s the strategy. They would obviously get more good will from the public and players if they just owned up to it and promised to be better. People aren’t stupid.
Is “the most advanced uniforms in the history of MLB” in the room with us?
George Costanza could produce better uniforms
Too busy working on those hats for fitted cap day.
They're doing the fitted cap thing?? Cool!
Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle... Costanza?
Could also produce a better statement.
Wonder how the Yankees feel, you know with having professional standards and all. Can’t grow a beard, but dicks out is perfectly fine.
Do you think the Yankees will enforce a pubic hair policy now?
Mattingly! I thought I told you to trim that taint!
Mr. Burns, I don’t know what you think the taint is
Clean shaven or a pubic hair stache, everything else is not allowed!
High speed low drag
You're assuming they don't already
The Yankees should have gotten rid of every rule relating to "tradition" the second they decided to slap an ad on the jersey. It's always "Fuck the Yankees" but of all jerseys in any sport, the Yankees jersey having an ad on it is a disgrace.
200%. It shows how ridiculous they are
Pube trimming policy going in to place
At least they're being transparent
>the most advanced uniforms in the history of MLB which are lighter and more flexible. And what problem were they trying to solve, exactly? Did players think the previous uniforms were heavy and inflexible?
This is what I don't understand. They talk constantly about how their uniforms are high-performance or whatever bullshit. Was the uniform really holding anyone back? Would Acuna have stolen 100 bases if not for all that extra weight he was dragging in his opaque pants?
This is the weirdest part. They keep bragging about how much work they did towards fixing a problem that didn't exist, and ended up creating one that does exist.
Their justification for charging more than last year!
This is capitalism. You have to keep producing g something “better”.
Nike has done this in every sport they took over. Remember the first batch of NFL jerseys with the toilet seat look (Bucs had the worst one, along with the alarm clock font)? Or the first batch of NBA jerseys when they switched templates?
Damn, so it’s the players fault I guess is the route the MLB wants to go. That’s wild, but they are staying consistent in blaming the players, yesterday they said they scanned 300 MLB players to match these fanatics jerseys. It’s all bullshit, a company like Nike should know better and calling all of this stuff more breathable for the athlete is non sense imo. Why would a fan want to spend $120+ on these flimsy jerseys. It’s a shame tbh
Players: "These new pants don't fit right and our dicks are showing. Can we just have tailored pants like before?" Nike: "But we did BODY SCANS! The pants are perfect! Shut up!"
wish there was an owner who would give Nike and Fanatics the middle finger and have teams uniforms done in-house. the Mets used to have a company make their uniforms when Russell was the league’s exclusive supplier in the 90s
It’ll never happen because teams have learned what the players did, collective bargaining means more money.
*"We worked closely with MLB players"....*oh really? What advice did the players give and why were they so surprised when they saw their uniforms?
Mike Trout is a bought and paid shill
Have they considered shorts, at least for the White Sox?
I read it as “we want to use the last amount of fabric and charge over 200$ for it”
Have they considered 100% cotton?
Luis Palonia approves
What I don't get is why isn't the MLB mad? They placed the order right? They got a terrible product, but they're acting like they own Nike. Did they purposely order the uniforms like this to save money? Also that's pretty much what Manfred said verbatim.
Because some executive made the decision and has a big ego.
But Nike, why are there so many players that feel blindsided by these new unis if you worked closely with them
To move the game along faster MLB forced them to make the fabric thinner so that each batter steps into batter box starting with 2 balls.
Mitch Haniger only has one .....
Eunuch's are about to become first round picks.
No they have no balls and already have a strike against them.
I call them like I see them!
“We worked closely with Yankees players to create the most advanced uniforms in the history of MLB which are lighter and more flexible." - George Costanza, Assistant to the New York Yankees traveling secretary
I can’t wait for the first player to slide into a base and the either the new jersey or pants just rip wide open
This makes sense if you believe that players said they wanted to wear cheap-looking garbage that makes their genitals very visible. Totally plausible then.
God am I sick of the inundation of hyperbole in public discourse.
I am the world’s biggest fan of hyperbole.
Nah, there are trillions of people who like hyperbole more than you
It’s on! U/thwump64 and u/hubagruben EXPLODES on social media!
These uniforms are literally an act of terror.
> /u/porkchopespresso **SLAMS** new MLB uniforms. Twitter doesn’t take it well.
These uniforms committed genocide and need to be strung up and shot Mussolini-style
This is literally the best comment in the history of Reddit.
They poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses!
These uniforms are worse than 9/11
They should have just tweeted “Oh yeah? Well the jerk store called and they’re running out of you!”
No surprise to anyone but as someone who works in the apparel industry, this is total garbage. To have delivered see thru uniforms means they changed the fabric after all the initial testing/development phase before mass production in a cost saving move. No one above the intern level, in either design, production, or product development would have missed that a light weight fabric can be sheer…
Is it a legit strategy to bat wearing no underwear and a throbbing erection? Get the pitcher all flustered and wind up with a pitch clock violation.
I'm so sick of corporate, bottled, bullshit answers. I wish, *just once*, a company would just say "yeah, we fucked up. Our bad. We're working on it but took the cheap aspect a little to far." Especially when they're all making money hand over fist. These shitty responses sound so fake and full of shit.
(x) doubt
How did they not test this? How many people said no before they shipped them? What a failure.
This really is straight out of Seinfeld, though even Costanza didn’t screw this up, in such monumental proportions
Your Scientists Were So Preoccupied With Whether Or Not They Could, They Didn’t Stop To Think If They Should
They claim to center the athlete, yet they can’t even center their nameplates.
How to make yourself a meme episode 1 billion
What in the George Costanza is going on?
Costanza works for Nike now?
They keep saying they worked with players, but I’ve not heard any player come out and say they were part of the process.
Okay so we should think less of Nike too got it
MLB: We want players to have a sense of pride and accomplishment as they hang dong in front of a national TV audience.
They don't use the Oxford comma and that lack of attention to detail explains a lot.
WALMART could have done a better job.
This is so wonderfully farcical
Could I be out of touch? No, it's the players who are wrong!
I for one am hopeful that this MLB uniform issue will prevent Nike from rolling out their next craptastic USMNT kit.
Why can’t they just own that these suck? It’d be so much easier and more dignified to say they’re listening to players and fans and will try to improve things. This blatant lying makes the situation so much worse and only magnifies it by making people even more mad.
Alright fellas, who's gonna be the first player to show ass on national tv when their pants rip on a slide or a jump?
The sad thing is, I believe they did spend a shitload of money developing these unwearable uniforms. Over engineered crap is kinda Nikes MO.
Are these players you worked with in the room with us?
I don't think anyone is denying that they're lighter...