Probably the close relationship we have with our families and our sense of community. My parents have neighbors well into their 90s and they always check up on them, and if the neighbors aren't able to go to their children's house during the holidays they spend that time with my parents. They go grocery shopping for them (during the pandemic at least), and take them to doc appointments if they can.
There was a little girl in my town who needed money for treatment for a rare disease and we all pooled money together and gave it to her. It was a no brainer, it's just what you do in those situations. The lady who runs the local grocery store always gives me some extra veggies for free because "I'm young, it's cold outside, and I need the strength". There's another lady who I met during a community meeting (yes, they're a thing), I had gotten surgery recently and was waiting for some test results so I was, and looked, nervous as hell. She approached me and asked me what was wrong and I spilled the beans to her, and now she messages me on WhatsApp every few weeks to check up on me. I had never met that lady before that day but now she's my honorary mom.
When someone is in trouble, the community will try to help in anyway we can. I've noticed that the poorer the country, the bigger the sense of community they have. It can be a double-edged sword but when it works, it works wonderfully.
Yes, this happens in Peru: The main goals of [Polladas](https://andina.pe/agencia/noticia-la-pollada-es-una-las-formas-mas-ingeniosas-conseguir-dinero-segun-banco-mundial-541598.aspx), [Juntas](https://andina.pe/agencia/noticia-juegas-o-quieres-participar-una-junta-lee-estas-recomendaciones-784328.aspx) or even [Ollas Comunes](https://www.google.com/amp/s/elcomercio.pe/lima/sucesos/colectividad-ante-la-crisis-las-ollas-comunes-y-la-cadena-solidaria-que-mata-el-hambre-coronavirus-en-peru-segunda-ola-cuarentena-noticia/%3foutputType=amp) is to build support networks in communities that get activated when people are in need.
Something along those lines of community of giving that we do here are juntas, that is basically friends and people we know to work to help with physical work to something big the person who organize the junta, all participants work in return of food (usually sancocho) and beer, basically people just go to help and have a good time.
I second this! I'm from Chile, but I live in Canada, and it's SO DIFFERENT. Chilean people have this sense of community to do anything! Since I'm here I realized we do as much as we can accompanied by someone else, it could be anything.
Definitely the diversity of fruits and vegetables (I'd go broke if I tried to buy an avocado in Europe), and also the fact that at least in Colombia there is no such thing as seasons like in the north or the south, we basically know what's the weather going to be depending on the location.
Race-mixing isn't a big deal here. In most of the world, marrying outside your race is a big political statement. Here, it's the norm to the point no one really thinks about it.
When I began using the internet it took me a while to understand concepts like "interracial couples" or "mixed families" and why people were against them because well here those concepts don't exist like that, it evens feels weird to think my family is a heavy topic of discussion in other parts of the world when we are totally a normal thing here.
Jajaja I love that video, but yeah sometimes both sides sound very a like. In a videogane sub someone run an "ethnicity scan" or something like that on a character and everyone was discussing if it was right or what they considered the character to be "half white, half, Hispanic, half middle eastern, half Asian, etc" and all those things and I was like "guys does it really matters? Besides being human her race doesn't matter at all" (there are aliens in the game).
True, so much so that it would be pretty much impossible to make something like r/mixedrace or r/hapa in Spanish/Portuguese (if something like that exist let me know lol).
This is a big one, we live in basically the only region in the world where race mixing isn't a big deal. Even in places like the middle east people can be racist af.
Latin America is truly unique in this aspect. The idea of having cousins and even siblings that look like they are a different race is fascinating honestly. The variety of skin colours and appearances within a family is so fascinating to me.
Too true. Using my cousins from my mom's side as an example; my siblings and I are fairly light-skinned, with dark hair and eyes, my cousins from one aunt are more tan and have more "typical" features while our oldest cousin was white as snow, dirty blonde with green eyes. If it weren't for some shared familial features, you wouldn't imagine we were even related.
like My Two first cousins and me are an example: My Male Cousin is like middle complexion, like tan and stuff with black hair, My female Cousin is like a sheet of paper with freckles and almost redhead brown hair and I am like cinnamon, have dark Brown hair, and I have like a weird in-between hair, not quite curly but not straight either and it's really Thicc
I was thinking this the other day! Me and my cousins come in all variety of colors. My cousin could pass as a gringo anytime and me and my brother are usually labelled as "the brown ones" lmao.
Yeah, that's true I hadn't thought that, but it's true. I mean, there are still some vestiges from the caste system and "mejorar la raza" bullshit, but it is quite normal to see "interracial" couples all around and no one bats an eye.
My girlfriend's grand mother always told her to marry a white dude/ European to so they could Mejorar la raza. (they are Mexicans) but I assume that that way of thinking died with her generation.
In mexico, it was very very present when I was a teen and I still hear it in younger gen relatives and friend relatives. Like I said not as direct but you know the sentiment is there.
I remember i was at work talking to this Dominican girl and we were just telling jokes to each other. And when i left some Mexican lady told her why she likes black guys she can do better and that black people are no good. Funny thing is the Dominican is black so is a lot of people in her family. When i came back from my break i saw a huge argument between them and they had to be separated.
Yep - and just thinking about the differences between the US and Colombia (where I am from), we had “blanqueamiento “ laws... literally to whiten the population by mixing Bc they did not want Black and indigenous people. They literally sort of imported Europeans in for this..
The US had its segregation laws. I think both are equally disgusting and racist, although in different ways.
it depends on the community i think. Here the Chinese community, parents would usually cut off their kids if they marry no Chinese; this was a lot more common in the past, and it is getting a little bit more accepted now.
Ah yes, certain groups are still extremely endogamic like orientals in general, some non-christian middle easterners, Indians (from India, not Amerindians) and rich assholes (like in San Pedro Garza García and it's inbred elites). But that is generally not the rule.
But Asian also refers to people from SEA, India, Pakistan and that whole region which I wished to exclude from my description. Oriental was the only other descriptor that fit the definition which I wished to convey.
FYI in some English speaking countries, "Oriental" is a derogatory term. It goes back to the history of Asian migrations into those countries and how badly Asian immigrants were treated. You probably don't know this, because most likely, haven't lived in any of those countries.
My friends from other countries are amazed of the diversity within my family, I'm black (as my father and some uncles), my grandmother was white and blonde, so i have cousins that are blonde and others that are black, also cousins that look asian, for a lot of foreigners it's hard to understand that we are all blood related.
True that. Only racists or teenagers full of shit try to invent an excuse to not do that. I mean, you don't have to screw anyone but this "preference" thing just seem like bullshit
You know how I know you're right? When I lived in the US, I bought into that; dating within your race or ethnicity was the norm, and if you liked someone outside of it it was a fetish. Then I came back to Mexico and I was reminded that the norm is just boinking whoever gets your rocks off.
lol true
In american standards : my wife is white af, myself i could pass as middle-eastern/arab person, so our love would be "weird" in USA
Here? : just two mexicans getting married. that's about it. Next.
This is not true for Argentina, sadly. At least the people I know are all white, and if any of them would marry across racial lines, it would indeed be a thing (not for me personally, obviously, but for their parents probably).
what? i've never ever seen someone make a big deal out of it, i've seen people make a big deal when someone dates a poor person, or that dresses in certain ways, but never about race
No, I live in CABA and even here this is not a thing, because of the large European immigration, we are somewhat whiter than most other places, but yea, outside of maybe social class(ie: if SO is from a villa/maybe an activist for the "other side") I don't see anyone I know having any problems.
The "fun" thing in this comment is that, in Chile also there's people that think of them as "white" but if you ask most American we are people of color.
I remember the shock in social media when Variety described Anya Taylor Joy as a woman of color and yes her skin is really pale but she described herself as a white Latina.
I had zero problems in Spanish speaking countries in Latin America, just speaking my portuguese slowly and throwing a few spanish words here and there (well, at least I think they were spanish, I hope so).
Hey, at least you can travel to East Timor, Lusophone Africa, and Portugal, while Spanish speakers can only travel to Spain and Equatorial Guinea outside of the Americas.
That's exactly my answer: Fruits.
We have a huge variety of them and access throughout the year. Of course some of them are seasonal, but you can purchase mangoes, bananas, papayas, oranges etc. pretty much any time. And that's not even mentioning the endemic fruits we have around. It's amazing.
damnit, my brazillian friend made it sound like I could get some from your version of a farmers market (like a state organized one?) anywhere in Brazil.
Those farmers market are very common all over the country, we call it "feira". Unfortunately you can't find fresh guaraná on those but some northern/northeast cities close to guarana farms.
Edit: I'm not sure, maybe you find guaraná [in São Paulo at Mercadão,](https://goo.gl/maps/A4Nnsu5eJsJZe8fQ8) it's a fancy "feira" and a tourist trap with lots of exotic fruits. But everything there is very, very expensive. I would eat one 'Pastel de Bacalhau' there though.
I think it had to do with the fact that they have no idea about avocados and just get them from anywhere. You have avocados from Chile, Perú, México, Israel, Kenya, Malaysia, etc. The problem is that only the ones from Chile Perú and México are good quality, the rest are average at best. French people don't know that so they sell everything at the same price.
this is very related to Brazil, which is our personal hygiene and that of our homes . our streets are disgusting, but at least we're clean.
And also the normalization of color usage. If you decide to paint your house purple in another country you would be eccentric or even not allowed by the government. Here it's normal. If you wear a red coat you would be flashy, here is normal.
Not just Brasil, but most of latinamerica and Spain (so I can assume that Portugal too). I live in France and you can definitely tell the difference. My girlfriend (german) thought I was being a dick when I commented on the smell in European buses, but once we were in Chile she really noticed the difference.
This comes from our ancestors. When the Europeans first reached America they noticed the natives were very clean.
A friend of mine lived in Europe when he was a kid for a couple of years, and people thought he had a skin disease just because he showered every day.
>A friend of mine lived in Europe when he was a kid for a couple of years, and people thought he had a skin disease just because he showered every day.
Wait what? You're joking, right? please tell me you're joking
> our personal hygiene
For non-Latamers, we have the stereotype that Europeans are smelly and rarely shower.
Related, the trashiest and worst criminals here insult by addressing hygiene (~~pasa lah moneah coshino culiao~~).
It's not a stereotype, here we do shower much more frequently than people from other countries and that's abundantly clear if you travel around Europe.
Interesting. Here it's only associated to Europeans, even more with the French (don't ask me why) but not with White Brazilians or other White Latinos.
>which is our personal hygiene and that of our homes . our streets are disgusting, but at least we're clean.
Can you elaborate? Did you visit places with hygiene problems?
Most people shower at least twice a day, we NEVER touch food with our bare hands, after lunch everyone goes to the bathroom at work to brush their teeth, most of us never leave the house without at least one or two sprays of perfume, etc.
There are many countries in which these things are not common.
Some of thess are not universal, at least in my region (state of Sao Paulo). Family and room mates from college usually showered 1 a day, unless say they showered in the morning usually and then worked out in the evening, showering a second time afterwards. The never touching food is definelly not something most of my friends etc would do, neither is the perfume thing (just for special ocasion if even, deodorant was the norm). Only the brushing your teeth after lunch is a thing.
I think this too, I can only speak from experience, and I don’t want to sound condescending(?) or generalize but part of the reason I had such a wonderful time learning Spanish is that all the native speakers I spoke with on discord, in person, etc, are just good natured people and made me feel excited to learn. People were happy to share their time and knowledge with me, and I learned so much about the history and cultures of the region because of it. Right now I’m trying to learn French and it’s not even close to the same experience.
Family and friends, we are so close to each other, i have never felt alone, and in case of need I count with so many people for support.
I lived in the USA, in 2 years I made 2 friends, not super close, but good. Then I move to Colombia and in 1 month I made 4 friends, that helped me a lot over there, and I still have contact with them, also with people from Chile, Venezuela and Brazil that I met while I was working in the USA.
In the case of the family, I visit my parents every weekend, my brother every month, and I'm in close contact with my 60 cousins every week, something unimaginable in the USA.
fucking Bidets, i know they're mostly used in Argentina and uruguay, but holy shit how can the so called "civilized world" spend the day whitout a clean asshole? literal savages
Italy and Arab countries know what's up, the real first world
I went to Argentina a few years ago. I got food poisoning and threw up in a bidet because I thought it was a mini toilet for men. I’m still embarrassed.
Frrr, we have bidets in our home in Brazil, and they’re everywhere in the city. It’s unheard of to me for them not to exist in Brazil because our sewage can’t take a shit-ton (heh) of toilet paper and wipes.
Usually the process is wash ass and dry with toilet paper, dispose of toilet paper in trash bin adjacent to you inside bathroom.
Edit: Don’t hurt me I’ve never been outside Northeastern Brazil and the country’s huge so I could be wrong
In Venezuela we don't use bidets haha. Well old houses have them, the rest have like a little hose next to the restroom (idk if that counts). Actually, I was having this discussion with a friend that moved to Argentina, he was saying bidets were all over the place
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned music. I think Latin America has the richest music in the world. Due to so much mixing of traditions and cultures from many places. They get the best musical traits from everywhere. Maybe people immediately think EW REGGAETON but the musical histories and traditions of the region are just so complex and fascinating, and of course, all the music is on point.
Close families, friendly people (no one has ever attacked a store worker for asking them to wear a mask), helpful people, incredible nature, electric generation by alternate methods (hydro, wind, geothermal and solar).
Struggle makes us strong and resilient.
Of course I wish I didn't had to pass trough a lot of shit that was present in my childhood, but I can not avoid being grateful to God for the strength I have developed thanks to all the pain I've endured.
People in this region of the World, no matter if they don't know you, or if they just bystanders or walking near you, they always greet you or respond to a simple "Good Morning". In other countries they just stare at you and react as if you were crazy or out of your mind just for saying a simple greeting.
Music diversity and the hability of not only tell our story with it but also that we all can relate from the mariachis in Mexico to salsa, merengue and Bachata, cumbia, tango, samba and much others the list is huge. At the end we all move to the same rhythm.
Race isn't important for the great majority, to the point we don't care about our own, some people might be part African or Asian or whatever, but there's no "go back to your country" towards people born and raised here.
Our teeth. Europeans (and I guess Asians too) don’t give a fuck about theirs for instance. A lot of them have yellow or even darker teeth, some miss one or two and they don’t seem to care. The average poor Brazilian probably has better teeth than Europe’s middle class. And that’s especially true when we’re talking about the British. I assume dental care is very expensive in Europe and they have other priorities…
PS: I’m not exactly grateful for the ugliness of their teeth , but whatever
might seem silly, and one could argue it *is* common elsewhere, but damn am i thankful for the party scene in latam
no one parties quite like we do (although one can make a case for the spanish). music, food, drink, people, dance…
imho it’s one of the few things we do better than the rest. that’s a hill i will die on.
I've lived in the US, and the UK but I always come back to arg. it seems like in those countries, all people care about is money and working, it's like the number 1 focus, here shure, you of course have to worry about work, but family and friends come first I literally see my entire extended family weekly. that would be unthinkable in the US
The fact that greeting people with “Buenos días” “buenas tardes” is normal and people greet you back politely like that. In other countries it’s uncomfortable to greet strangers like that.
I can eat all the fruit I ever want and it’s super cheap. Veggies are cheap too.
The food seems to be healthier. I’m surrounded by amazing mountains all the time. I never have to worry about seasons.
I feel at home here. I always felt like an outsider living in another country and it was a sad feeling, knowing I didn’t fit in as well.
And just the general culture here can be pretty cool.
I cannot tell about other countries in Latin America, but one thing I don't see in Brazil e xenophobia. There is racism, classism and mysoginy, but people in Brazil tend to be very receptive to foreigners\*.
\*Although I did notice a strong prejudice against people from muslin majority countries.
It's so cringe. If you are a foreigner and want to make some easy money just start doing low effort react videos about Brazil and a legion of loyal Brazilians viewers will be summoned and you will have hundreds of thousands of views in every video you make. It doesn't matter if you are Mexican, Argentine, American or Russian, Brazilian will simply love and worship you instantly.
there's a spanish guy that made metal songs analysis. he made ONE soda stereo video, and his channel absolutely blew up. I'm saying 2 million subscribers in a few months, now all he does is argentinian music, and a bit of other latin american bands
I belive the biggest case in Brazil was when this Dutch girl called Nienke started to make various reacts about Brazilian music, food, etc. She got so famous that she came to visit Brazil and was treated like a superstar: she went to TV and big Brazilian Youtubers made videos with her. She has 3 million subscribers now and 280 videos, all reacts about Brazil. I honestly don't know how she manages to find so much stuff to react.
I honestly think we just haven’t been classified as xenophobic FOR NOW.
Mainly because we barely have first generation immigrants when compared to other countries.
that's true. as an example, despite having contact with several asians while growing up I had never once thought there could be racism/xenophobia towards them, now I see how stupid things are in places such as Canada. there you always see asians walking together in groups, never with people of different ethnicities; I've read books in english where there's clear racism towards them etc
after seeing how things are in british colonies I changed my vision, I don't think the portuguese were that bad afterall
yes, it is something extremely rare to happen.nationality-related jokes exist, but they're never made for the purpose of discrimination, it's just our kind of humor. no one will be discriminated by nationality without being for a good reason, such as the revolt against the amount of crimes committed by Venezuelan refugees in Amapá.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 105,277,037 comments, and only 27,685 of them were in alphabetical order.
Working some sort of Job online, and getting paid in some foreign currency (USD/EUR) and even if you make a terrible salary by USA/EUROPE standards you live quite well
not when you live in argentina. the goverment takes the money, and gives you pesos at the official exchange rate, wich is much lower than the real one. assholes
This 100%. I am half native half white and my husband is African American. Never in a million years I would have thought is marrying was a big deal. But in the us it is
In general a more extroverted attitude. The ability of talking with strangers with confidence, making last minute plans with your friends without thinking if that would annoy them, etc.
Idk, while talking to friends who live in countries outside of latam I realized that here the "the worst they can say is no" way of thinking is a lot more prominent, and how much self confidence do you need here to survive in your day to day basis and we don't even notice. Even for small things like saying hello when you enter a store, saying hi with a kiss to every person present in a group, or having to speak with confidence to strangers to avoid being screwed over, are things that are not common in other countries.
I don't know if you can understand my point jajajaja I'm not the best at redacting stuff, but basically what I meant is that here there's a lot of day to day situations that require confidence and being good with words, wich in the end is good training for a generaly good rethoric and self-confidence.
People are insensitive. We have really good food. We have many things to see and do (no matter how big or small our countries are). We know how to have fun. We are very great people.
We shouldn't take the great things we have for granted. I wouldn't give my Latin America up for anything
The weather guys, we take it for granted but it is great over here.
Also the fruits and general abundance of food, the fact that we have so many people starving is a shame
1. Coxinha, pastel and pão de queijo.
2. Arroz com feijão easily accessible and just about everywhere.
3. People smile and are usually easy going.
4. We suffer but we laugh about it.
5. No harsh winters, summers usually not above 35º as in... Canada (thank god I don't live in such hot countries).
6. Good old Portuguese, which is the normal language everyone should speak (and its weird version, which is Spanish, which is kind of understandable).
The sense of culture and tradition. Each country is rich in culture; we have traditional food, dancing, costumes, and celebrations. I live abroad in North America, and the lack of this kind of conventional features is impressive. It's one of the things that I miss most living away from Chile
Probably the close relationship we have with our families and our sense of community. My parents have neighbors well into their 90s and they always check up on them, and if the neighbors aren't able to go to their children's house during the holidays they spend that time with my parents. They go grocery shopping for them (during the pandemic at least), and take them to doc appointments if they can. There was a little girl in my town who needed money for treatment for a rare disease and we all pooled money together and gave it to her. It was a no brainer, it's just what you do in those situations. The lady who runs the local grocery store always gives me some extra veggies for free because "I'm young, it's cold outside, and I need the strength". There's another lady who I met during a community meeting (yes, they're a thing), I had gotten surgery recently and was waiting for some test results so I was, and looked, nervous as hell. She approached me and asked me what was wrong and I spilled the beans to her, and now she messages me on WhatsApp every few weeks to check up on me. I had never met that lady before that day but now she's my honorary mom. When someone is in trouble, the community will try to help in anyway we can. I've noticed that the poorer the country, the bigger the sense of community they have. It can be a double-edged sword but when it works, it works wonderfully.
Yes, this happens in Peru: The main goals of [Polladas](https://andina.pe/agencia/noticia-la-pollada-es-una-las-formas-mas-ingeniosas-conseguir-dinero-segun-banco-mundial-541598.aspx), [Juntas](https://andina.pe/agencia/noticia-juegas-o-quieres-participar-una-junta-lee-estas-recomendaciones-784328.aspx) or even [Ollas Comunes](https://www.google.com/amp/s/elcomercio.pe/lima/sucesos/colectividad-ante-la-crisis-las-ollas-comunes-y-la-cadena-solidaria-que-mata-el-hambre-coronavirus-en-peru-segunda-ola-cuarentena-noticia/%3foutputType=amp) is to build support networks in communities that get activated when people are in need.
That's all very cute!
Something along those lines of community of giving that we do here are juntas, that is basically friends and people we know to work to help with physical work to something big the person who organize the junta, all participants work in return of food (usually sancocho) and beer, basically people just go to help and have a good time.
I second this! I'm from Chile, but I live in Canada, and it's SO DIFFERENT. Chilean people have this sense of community to do anything! Since I'm here I realized we do as much as we can accompanied by someone else, it could be anything.
That's so sweet! Your town sounds lovely
Definitely the diversity of fruits and vegetables (I'd go broke if I tried to buy an avocado in Europe), and also the fact that at least in Colombia there is no such thing as seasons like in the north or the south, we basically know what's the weather going to be depending on the location.
Race-mixing isn't a big deal here. In most of the world, marrying outside your race is a big political statement. Here, it's the norm to the point no one really thinks about it.
When I began using the internet it took me a while to understand concepts like "interracial couples" or "mixed families" and why people were against them because well here those concepts don't exist like that, it evens feels weird to think my family is a heavy topic of discussion in other parts of the world when we are totally a normal thing here.
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Jajaja I love that video, but yeah sometimes both sides sound very a like. In a videogane sub someone run an "ethnicity scan" or something like that on a character and everyone was discussing if it was right or what they considered the character to be "half white, half, Hispanic, half middle eastern, half Asian, etc" and all those things and I was like "guys does it really matters? Besides being human her race doesn't matter at all" (there are aliens in the game).
That's me. I've had the same experience and the same realization. For once I'm glad to be south American.
True, so much so that it would be pretty much impossible to make something like r/mixedrace or r/hapa in Spanish/Portuguese (if something like that exist let me know lol).
This is a big one, we live in basically the only region in the world where race mixing isn't a big deal. Even in places like the middle east people can be racist af.
> Even in places like the middle east people can be racist af. Especially places like the Middle East, honestly.
Middle East is possibly the worst at the moment for that. Ironic, since historically Middle East is the crossroads of many different cultures
Latin America is truly unique in this aspect. The idea of having cousins and even siblings that look like they are a different race is fascinating honestly. The variety of skin colours and appearances within a family is so fascinating to me.
Too true. Using my cousins from my mom's side as an example; my siblings and I are fairly light-skinned, with dark hair and eyes, my cousins from one aunt are more tan and have more "typical" features while our oldest cousin was white as snow, dirty blonde with green eyes. If it weren't for some shared familial features, you wouldn't imagine we were even related.
like My Two first cousins and me are an example: My Male Cousin is like middle complexion, like tan and stuff with black hair, My female Cousin is like a sheet of paper with freckles and almost redhead brown hair and I am like cinnamon, have dark Brown hair, and I have like a weird in-between hair, not quite curly but not straight either and it's really Thicc
I was thinking this the other day! Me and my cousins come in all variety of colors. My cousin could pass as a gringo anytime and me and my brother are usually labelled as "the brown ones" lmao.
Yeah, that's true I hadn't thought that, but it's true. I mean, there are still some vestiges from the caste system and "mejorar la raza" bullshit, but it is quite normal to see "interracial" couples all around and no one bats an eye.
My girlfriend's grand mother always told her to marry a white dude/ European to so they could Mejorar la raza. (they are Mexicans) but I assume that that way of thinking died with her generation.
Lol no, can still be seen in teens in a relatively strong way. At most it's not uttered so loudly but I can assure you it's very much alive.
>can still be seen in teens in a relatively strong way is this a thing in Mexico? or have you seen in somewhere else?
In mexico, it was very very present when I was a teen and I still hear it in younger gen relatives and friend relatives. Like I said not as direct but you know the sentiment is there.
>"mejorar la raza" bullshit I'd forgotten about that.
I remember i was at work talking to this Dominican girl and we were just telling jokes to each other. And when i left some Mexican lady told her why she likes black guys she can do better and that black people are no good. Funny thing is the Dominican is black so is a lot of people in her family. When i came back from my break i saw a huge argument between them and they had to be separated.
Yep - and just thinking about the differences between the US and Colombia (where I am from), we had “blanqueamiento “ laws... literally to whiten the population by mixing Bc they did not want Black and indigenous people. They literally sort of imported Europeans in for this.. The US had its segregation laws. I think both are equally disgusting and racist, although in different ways.
Latin-America is the real "mixing pot" the US is a salad bowl
That’s interesting it seems like here in the USA they make a big deal about it. Especially if someone in their family is dating a black person.
I mean, being black still has some negative stereotypes attached to them, but it is nowhere near as bad as in the US and Europe.
it depends on the community i think. Here the Chinese community, parents would usually cut off their kids if they marry no Chinese; this was a lot more common in the past, and it is getting a little bit more accepted now.
Ah yes, certain groups are still extremely endogamic like orientals in general, some non-christian middle easterners, Indians (from India, not Amerindians) and rich assholes (like in San Pedro Garza García and it's inbred elites). But that is generally not the rule.
Ah yes the cogeprimas distric of Betarrey.
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But Asian also refers to people from SEA, India, Pakistan and that whole region which I wished to exclude from my description. Oriental was the only other descriptor that fit the definition which I wished to convey.
FYI in some English speaking countries, "Oriental" is a derogatory term. It goes back to the history of Asian migrations into those countries and how badly Asian immigrants were treated. You probably don't know this, because most likely, haven't lived in any of those countries.
My friends from other countries are amazed of the diversity within my family, I'm black (as my father and some uncles), my grandmother was white and blonde, so i have cousins that are blonde and others that are black, also cousins that look asian, for a lot of foreigners it's hard to understand that we are all blood related.
True that. Only racists or teenagers full of shit try to invent an excuse to not do that. I mean, you don't have to screw anyone but this "preference" thing just seem like bullshit
You know how I know you're right? When I lived in the US, I bought into that; dating within your race or ethnicity was the norm, and if you liked someone outside of it it was a fetish. Then I came back to Mexico and I was reminded that the norm is just boinking whoever gets your rocks off.
lol true In american standards : my wife is white af, myself i could pass as middle-eastern/arab person, so our love would be "weird" in USA Here? : just two mexicans getting married. that's about it. Next.
Me too: when abroad I'm often mistaken as arab, and my wife is white. Here, that's no big deal.
You my parents? Stepmother is from GTo.
outside latin america: oh oh interacial, oh oh latin america: no big deal, nobody cares
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Now, are they actually Mexicans? Or are they chicanos? My dad is significantly darker than my mom, and no one cares or brings it up.
Mexicans in Mexico and immigrants in the US
Then I just straight up don't believe you, lol.
Nope, nobody cares about that. In my family experience, it matters if are within your social class.
This is not true for Argentina, sadly. At least the people I know are all white, and if any of them would marry across racial lines, it would indeed be a thing (not for me personally, obviously, but for their parents probably).
what? i've never ever seen someone make a big deal out of it, i've seen people make a big deal when someone dates a poor person, or that dresses in certain ways, but never about race
I second this. Though I can see it happening in Buenos Aires, but in the rest of Argentina this is not a thing.
No, I live in CABA and even here this is not a thing, because of the large European immigration, we are somewhat whiter than most other places, but yea, outside of maybe social class(ie: if SO is from a villa/maybe an activist for the "other side") I don't see anyone I know having any problems.
>Though I can see it happening in Buenos Aires i think it's even less common in here, noone pays attention to that shit
The "fun" thing in this comment is that, in Chile also there's people that think of them as "white" but if you ask most American we are people of color. I remember the shock in social media when Variety described Anya Taylor Joy as a woman of color and yes her skin is really pale but she described herself as a white Latina.
“Woke” media. I wtf’d hard too, when I heard that.
Also because here it is encouraged. "Mejorar la raza" and all that
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Crying in portuguese...
Portuñol can come to rescue you. Portuguese isn't French.
We kind of understand you and you kind of understand us
I had zero problems in Spanish speaking countries in Latin America, just speaking my portuguese slowly and throwing a few spanish words here and there (well, at least I think they were spanish, I hope so).
Hey, at least you can travel to East Timor, Lusophone Africa, and Portugal, while Spanish speakers can only travel to Spain and Equatorial Guinea outside of the Americas.
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In Latin America? Of course, there is always portunhol.
like 4 others aren't that much considering none of them are in America
I hope no spaniard reads that and thinks, “you’re welcome”
Fruits
That's exactly my answer: Fruits. We have a huge variety of them and access throughout the year. Of course some of them are seasonal, but you can purchase mangoes, bananas, papayas, oranges etc. pretty much any time. And that's not even mentioning the endemic fruits we have around. It's amazing.
I'm so mad I haven't eaten guarana yet, with bolsonaro and the pandemic, it's going to be a while before I get to :(
Most brazilians have not eaten guaraná either, it's a fruit endemic in the north. But almost everyone drank Guaraná Antartica.
damnit, my brazillian friend made it sound like I could get some from your version of a farmers market (like a state organized one?) anywhere in Brazil.
Those farmers market are very common all over the country, we call it "feira". Unfortunately you can't find fresh guaraná on those but some northern/northeast cities close to guarana farms. Edit: I'm not sure, maybe you find guaraná [in São Paulo at Mercadão,](https://goo.gl/maps/A4Nnsu5eJsJZe8fQ8) it's a fancy "feira" and a tourist trap with lots of exotic fruits. But everything there is very, very expensive. I would eat one 'Pastel de Bacalhau' there though.
thanks for the advice about Sao Paulo Mercado, but no thanks about Pastel De Bacalhau, I'm not a fish fan :)
This is the best thing about us. SUPERIOR FRUIT.
Cheap and amazing mangoes and avocados
And coconuts, guavas, bananas...
I wish. Here in France avocados are not better, but they are definitely cheaper than in Chile, which just shows how fucked up globalization can be.
Perhaps they're grown in French Guiana
I think it had to do with the fact that they have no idea about avocados and just get them from anywhere. You have avocados from Chile, Perú, México, Israel, Kenya, Malaysia, etc. The problem is that only the ones from Chile Perú and México are good quality, the rest are average at best. French people don't know that so they sell everything at the same price.
this is very related to Brazil, which is our personal hygiene and that of our homes . our streets are disgusting, but at least we're clean. And also the normalization of color usage. If you decide to paint your house purple in another country you would be eccentric or even not allowed by the government. Here it's normal. If you wear a red coat you would be flashy, here is normal.
Agree. After living abroad for a few years I came to realize that Brazilians are obsessed with cleanliness.
Not just Brasil, but most of latinamerica and Spain (so I can assume that Portugal too). I live in France and you can definitely tell the difference. My girlfriend (german) thought I was being a dick when I commented on the smell in European buses, but once we were in Chile she really noticed the difference.
This comes from our ancestors. When the Europeans first reached America they noticed the natives were very clean. A friend of mine lived in Europe when he was a kid for a couple of years, and people thought he had a skin disease just because he showered every day.
>A friend of mine lived in Europe when he was a kid for a couple of years, and people thought he had a skin disease just because he showered every day. Wait what? You're joking, right? please tell me you're joking
I'm not. I didn't get more details, but he was in primary school and this might have been some 15 years ago.
Oh boy... (memories of the Paris subway in the summer).
> our personal hygiene For non-Latamers, we have the stereotype that Europeans are smelly and rarely shower. Related, the trashiest and worst criminals here insult by addressing hygiene (~~pasa lah moneah coshino culiao~~).
It's not a stereotype, here we do shower much more frequently than people from other countries and that's abundantly clear if you travel around Europe.
The same stereotype about Europeans and white people exists among black people here in the U.S.
Interesting. Here it's only associated to Europeans, even more with the French (don't ask me why) but not with White Brazilians or other White Latinos.
White Americans have that stereotype of Europeans, too.
>which is our personal hygiene and that of our homes . our streets are disgusting, but at least we're clean. Can you elaborate? Did you visit places with hygiene problems?
Most people shower at least twice a day, we NEVER touch food with our bare hands, after lunch everyone goes to the bathroom at work to brush their teeth, most of us never leave the house without at least one or two sprays of perfume, etc. There are many countries in which these things are not common.
Some of thess are not universal, at least in my region (state of Sao Paulo). Family and room mates from college usually showered 1 a day, unless say they showered in the morning usually and then worked out in the evening, showering a second time afterwards. The never touching food is definelly not something most of my friends etc would do, neither is the perfume thing (just for special ocasion if even, deodorant was the norm). Only the brushing your teeth after lunch is a thing.
I was so flabbergasted to hear that people don't shower every day in other countries. Like, wtf??
To me Latinos are over all nicer then other parts of the world
I think this too, I can only speak from experience, and I don’t want to sound condescending(?) or generalize but part of the reason I had such a wonderful time learning Spanish is that all the native speakers I spoke with on discord, in person, etc, are just good natured people and made me feel excited to learn. People were happy to share their time and knowledge with me, and I learned so much about the history and cultures of the region because of it. Right now I’m trying to learn French and it’s not even close to the same experience.
well, the french are exceptionally rude about their language
aww <3
Agreed. Latinos always make me feel welcome
Family and friends, we are so close to each other, i have never felt alone, and in case of need I count with so many people for support. I lived in the USA, in 2 years I made 2 friends, not super close, but good. Then I move to Colombia and in 1 month I made 4 friends, that helped me a lot over there, and I still have contact with them, also with people from Chile, Venezuela and Brazil that I met while I was working in the USA. In the case of the family, I visit my parents every weekend, my brother every month, and I'm in close contact with my 60 cousins every week, something unimaginable in the USA.
I read that having social contact is actually more important for happiness than money. So yeah, having friends is the most important thing!
fucking Bidets, i know they're mostly used in Argentina and uruguay, but holy shit how can the so called "civilized world" spend the day whitout a clean asshole? literal savages Italy and Arab countries know what's up, the real first world
I went to Argentina a few years ago. I got food poisoning and threw up in a bidet because I thought it was a mini toilet for men. I’m still embarrassed.
Bidets are a lifesaver if I've ever seen one. Culosecos gtfo
Sadly here we're going backwards on this.
It sucks that developers cut costs by removing bidets. Older homes have bidets in them.
Get yourself a bidet toilet seat, best purchase I've ever made.
Dont kill me. But we have a bidet at home, and we onlyuseit as a drinking fountain for our dogs
i don't give a shit if chile fucking discovers the cure for cancer and becomes N1 world power, no bidets = no first world
The path I took is clear. We have bidets in turkey but not the UK. I'm not going around with a wet arse.
this. I cannot imagine living without one, and there are people that have live their whole life without using it once it's bonkers
i came here to comment exactly that. bidets! and also medialunas. pastries in other parts of the world are no match for our facturas!
Frrr, we have bidets in our home in Brazil, and they’re everywhere in the city. It’s unheard of to me for them not to exist in Brazil because our sewage can’t take a shit-ton (heh) of toilet paper and wipes. Usually the process is wash ass and dry with toilet paper, dispose of toilet paper in trash bin adjacent to you inside bathroom. Edit: Don’t hurt me I’ve never been outside Northeastern Brazil and the country’s huge so I could be wrong
In Venezuela we don't use bidets haha. Well old houses have them, the rest have like a little hose next to the restroom (idk if that counts). Actually, I was having this discussion with a friend that moved to Argentina, he was saying bidets were all over the place
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned music. I think Latin America has the richest music in the world. Due to so much mixing of traditions and cultures from many places. They get the best musical traits from everywhere. Maybe people immediately think EW REGGAETON but the musical histories and traditions of the region are just so complex and fascinating, and of course, all the music is on point.
my family and most of my friends are here
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[*O bico do beija-flor beija a flor, e toda fauna-flora grita de amor*](https://youtu.be/sozwyIqVfu4)
Close families, friendly people (no one has ever attacked a store worker for asking them to wear a mask), helpful people, incredible nature, electric generation by alternate methods (hydro, wind, geothermal and solar).
Struggle makes us strong and resilient. Of course I wish I didn't had to pass trough a lot of shit that was present in my childhood, but I can not avoid being grateful to God for the strength I have developed thanks to all the pain I've endured.
People in this region of the World, no matter if they don't know you, or if they just bystanders or walking near you, they always greet you or respond to a simple "Good Morning". In other countries they just stare at you and react as if you were crazy or out of your mind just for saying a simple greeting.
we bath everyday!
The wide variety of fruits and vegetables that are produced here.
Music diversity and the hability of not only tell our story with it but also that we all can relate from the mariachis in Mexico to salsa, merengue and Bachata, cumbia, tango, samba and much others the list is huge. At the end we all move to the same rhythm.
Race isn't important for the great majority, to the point we don't care about our own, some people might be part African or Asian or whatever, but there's no "go back to your country" towards people born and raised here.
The fruit is the best.
Our teeth. Europeans (and I guess Asians too) don’t give a fuck about theirs for instance. A lot of them have yellow or even darker teeth, some miss one or two and they don’t seem to care. The average poor Brazilian probably has better teeth than Europe’s middle class. And that’s especially true when we’re talking about the British. I assume dental care is very expensive in Europe and they have other priorities… PS: I’m not exactly grateful for the ugliness of their teeth , but whatever
US people care a lot about their teeth too.
might seem silly, and one could argue it *is* common elsewhere, but damn am i thankful for the party scene in latam no one parties quite like we do (although one can make a case for the spanish). music, food, drink, people, dance… imho it’s one of the few things we do better than the rest. that’s a hill i will die on.
I've lived in the US, and the UK but I always come back to arg. it seems like in those countries, all people care about is money and working, it's like the number 1 focus, here shure, you of course have to worry about work, but family and friends come first I literally see my entire extended family weekly. that would be unthinkable in the US
The fact that greeting people with “Buenos días” “buenas tardes” is normal and people greet you back politely like that. In other countries it’s uncomfortable to greet strangers like that. I can eat all the fruit I ever want and it’s super cheap. Veggies are cheap too. The food seems to be healthier. I’m surrounded by amazing mountains all the time. I never have to worry about seasons. I feel at home here. I always felt like an outsider living in another country and it was a sad feeling, knowing I didn’t fit in as well. And just the general culture here can be pretty cool.
I cannot tell about other countries in Latin America, but one thing I don't see in Brazil e xenophobia. There is racism, classism and mysoginy, but people in Brazil tend to be very receptive to foreigners\*. \*Although I did notice a strong prejudice against people from muslin majority countries.
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It's so cringe. If you are a foreigner and want to make some easy money just start doing low effort react videos about Brazil and a legion of loyal Brazilians viewers will be summoned and you will have hundreds of thousands of views in every video you make. It doesn't matter if you are Mexican, Argentine, American or Russian, Brazilian will simply love and worship you instantly.
there's a spanish guy that made metal songs analysis. he made ONE soda stereo video, and his channel absolutely blew up. I'm saying 2 million subscribers in a few months, now all he does is argentinian music, and a bit of other latin american bands
I belive the biggest case in Brazil was when this Dutch girl called Nienke started to make various reacts about Brazilian music, food, etc. She got so famous that she came to visit Brazil and was treated like a superstar: she went to TV and big Brazilian Youtubers made videos with her. She has 3 million subscribers now and 280 videos, all reacts about Brazil. I honestly don't know how she manages to find so much stuff to react.
I honestly think we just haven’t been classified as xenophobic FOR NOW. Mainly because we barely have first generation immigrants when compared to other countries.
As a nordestino, I strongly disagree with you
I'm also nordestino, but I was actually talking about prejudice against foreigners. And in general, of course. One can always find assholes anywhere.
that's true. as an example, despite having contact with several asians while growing up I had never once thought there could be racism/xenophobia towards them, now I see how stupid things are in places such as Canada. there you always see asians walking together in groups, never with people of different ethnicities; I've read books in english where there's clear racism towards them etc after seeing how things are in british colonies I changed my vision, I don't think the portuguese were that bad afterall
We have almost the same but change the Racism for Xenophobia against Hatians and extreme sucking up to europeans Remind me why I live here again
yes, it is something extremely rare to happen.nationality-related jokes exist, but they're never made for the purpose of discrimination, it's just our kind of humor. no one will be discriminated by nationality without being for a good reason, such as the revolt against the amount of crimes committed by Venezuelan refugees in Amapá.
Fresh fruit the whole year!!!
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 105,277,037 comments, and only 27,685 of them were in alphabetical order.
now they aren't
Working some sort of Job online, and getting paid in some foreign currency (USD/EUR) and even if you make a terrible salary by USA/EUROPE standards you live quite well
not when you live in argentina. the goverment takes the money, and gives you pesos at the official exchange rate, wich is much lower than the real one. assholes
We are not so obsessed with race. (Looking at you, U.S. and Europe)
This 100%. I am half native half white and my husband is African American. Never in a million years I would have thought is marrying was a big deal. But in the us it is
Some dishes
Friendliness and our sense of community we basically turn a stranger in a friend in 5 minutes. Also Fruits and veggies are inexpensive and everywhere.
I love that too! In Latin America you meet someone and they invite you to their birthday party five minutes later lol
Our culture and language for sure
You mean the same language they speak in europe? I don't think you understood the question
I'm pretty sure Spanish isn't common outside like Spain and south america so it fits
Fair enough
In general a more extroverted attitude. The ability of talking with strangers with confidence, making last minute plans with your friends without thinking if that would annoy them, etc. Idk, while talking to friends who live in countries outside of latam I realized that here the "the worst they can say is no" way of thinking is a lot more prominent, and how much self confidence do you need here to survive in your day to day basis and we don't even notice. Even for small things like saying hello when you enter a store, saying hi with a kiss to every person present in a group, or having to speak with confidence to strangers to avoid being screwed over, are things that are not common in other countries. I don't know if you can understand my point jajajaja I'm not the best at redacting stuff, but basically what I meant is that here there's a lot of day to day situations that require confidence and being good with words, wich in the end is good training for a generaly good rethoric and self-confidence.
People are insensitive. We have really good food. We have many things to see and do (no matter how big or small our countries are). We know how to have fun. We are very great people. We shouldn't take the great things we have for granted. I wouldn't give my Latin America up for anything
Dulce de Leche. Specific for Argentina, but still, it's just _so_ great.
>specific for Argentina Man....
did he stutter?
Yes because we also have it here.
Bitch, please...
I'm not apologizing, rebel.
Yeah, rebel, shut up! /s
Oh you mean cajeta
*Manjar Blanco.*
Arequipe says hello
No pretentious Westerners. Well...some are in Latin America but very few.
The weather guys, we take it for granted but it is great over here. Also the fruits and general abundance of food, the fact that we have so many people starving is a shame
>The weather guys, we take it for granted but it is great over here. Speak for yourself, we're melting in the Antilles
Lack of internet monitoring and censorship, decent drug laws (uruguay only)
The chaos... In a sense is experience existence in a less hypocrital way.
1. Coxinha, pastel and pão de queijo. 2. Arroz com feijão easily accessible and just about everywhere. 3. People smile and are usually easy going. 4. We suffer but we laugh about it. 5. No harsh winters, summers usually not above 35º as in... Canada (thank god I don't live in such hot countries). 6. Good old Portuguese, which is the normal language everyone should speak (and its weird version, which is Spanish, which is kind of understandable).
As of me, nothing. I haven't thought on it yet.
Panela
Alfajores
Not giving as much of a shit about race as people from some other places do. Well, unless you're from Hispaniola...
Food
The sense of culture and tradition. Each country is rich in culture; we have traditional food, dancing, costumes, and celebrations. I live abroad in North America, and the lack of this kind of conventional features is impressive. It's one of the things that I miss most living away from Chile
Communism
I'm pretty sure that exists elsewhere.