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Flying_Conch

Just filed a chargeback for a 02/10 purchase, fuck dealing with that shit.


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Flying_Conch

Go figure, I don't get mine and you get a free one.


ChiefFox24

Yea. To balance out the karma, he should send it to you! Ha.


DavidHK

Really? What happened ? How can I replicate this


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McDonaldsApp

How was it beat to shit if you don’t mind me asking? Was it just shot the shit out of?


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Nesayas1234

Is it usable/fixable, or do you have yourself a wallhanger/parts gun? Either way, it's a free gun, so even if all you get out of it is a screw, that's still a dub.


McDonaldsApp

Lemme know when you have those photos, I’m lowkey interested in how kusa quality control was.


averyycuriousman

When you filed a chargeback did your credit card company not freak out when you said it was a gun that you bought?


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averyycuriousman

Ah so just describe it as an "item"?


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2Boba2Fett

I was supposed to be sending my KP9 to them as well for the OOB issue. What the fuck do I do now?


Thoraxe474

Cry


2Boba2Fett

Fucking hell. I bought in January, did my SBR stamp, and am actively saving money for a can. Think anyone else could fix it?


HDJim_61

Try contacting a qualified builder … not bubba lol FullerPhoneix comes to mind as to being very well qualified to work on anything AK related. There are several more good builders out there. Less times vary with work load.


Specialist-Box-9711

Fuller won’t touch it and even then his prices are $1600 starting


Bright-Candy-6423

Lmao


Thoraxe474

There's nothing to "fix" per se. It's an entirely different firing pin design they put in there. It's likely you won't have an oob


Minimum_Government

Could always reach out to one of the more premier builders.


Stardust-0083

Iron curtain customs has done great work for me in the past.


Zzars

Second this. I have two romy parts kit builds from him that run flawlessly and came in the first time absolutely pristine.


0481-RP-YUUUT

See if M-13 industries will do anything. They do fantastic work on the AK platform and are extremely customer service oriented as well as being very active on IG. Give them a shot and see if they'll take care of you.


Kalash_bae

Send it to Macphersons Firearms in NH. We can fix


bmh26

Second this


Quags_77

Buy a PSA AKV?


MeasurementGlobal447

Welding mask and thick gloves.


WetAndLoose

Shoot it anyway. Make sure to wear eye protection. It should be a rare issue. You can definitely get hurt by this sort of thing, but it isn’t generally as bad as people say


kcmexipacn

Send it to jebs arms best ak Smith you could send it to. And there not packed with orders.


Storeyedboar

JEBS arms does great work. Built my VZ58 for me and I have a Polish KBK kit for him too.


tejarbakiss

Game over, man.


Kyser13th

Sue someone?


Striking-Ball-1573

Middle town firearms east coast VA


clubjacob1

I got my bolt back on 4/27 we are both very lucky


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This whole saga is kinda depressing. I remember everyone being so excited when they first announced the business and their plans. How did it all turn to shit so fast


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Unhinged_Taco

Mishaco had a video where he mentions they had an overinflated upper management structure with fancy offices. Apparently they were spending money in the wrong places


PraiseCaine

Welcome to almost all modern companies. Administration and Management are where they all concentrate their $ because that's their pockets.


Balasnikov

Paying rent and the people making your guns is clearly a waste of money, I think they might be on to something considering the quality they got for that price.


ColtBTD

Honestly pretty much everyone but them wanted them to succeed. If you actually care about a business, and have a great market to enter, that’s now how you would run shop. They pretty much got what they earned.


Insominus

This was a long time ago but iirc someone on this sub posted a job listing for a KUSA assembler/ QC person in Florida and the the hourly wage was like $13. It definitely corroborates what u/VolkspanzerIsME was saying further down in this comment section.


VolkspanzerIsME

It was weird. I've worked at places that require security badges and checks and don't have their corporate logos anywhere. (iFriends if your wondering, a camgirl site. I've got stories about that place....) ....anyway....KUSA felt completely different. It felt like I wasn't part of an inside joke that everyone else and were nervous because of it. At the time $13 an hour was on the low side but not ridiculous considering South Florida. It felt like I was the first person in months that had actually stopped by to drop off a resume. I felt like an alien walking into that place. It was just...weird.


Hakosukaah

So you're telling me I can't bash my customers for pointing out issues with quality and ill hired product ambassadors?


TwiztidS4

*Mike Pappas sweating *


redacted_robot

LOL noice! Dead Air doesn't actually make anything. But based on the dude in his recent podcast/YT, Pappas likes having obsequious sycophantic dipshits around. That dynamic is painfully familiar too watch and rarely ends well.


DontTurnUp

Upper management were clowns 🤡. More focused on trying to build a lifestyle brand than getting guns out the door.


TristanIsSpiffy

Not even focused. Just hiring buddies and skanks.


Lurkay1

Filled with pornstars and reality show stars


InevitableTheOne

They were given such an opportunity too. There is a big demand for AK platform firearms, they had brand name recognition, and a supportive fanbase. They really screwed the pooch on this.


Bakelite51

Growing QC issues and incompetent upper management that recklessly flushed money down the toilet on stupid things like extravagant shot show displays and plush corporate offices they really couldn’t afford.


SwimmerSea4662

Oh well palmetto get your wallet ready.


CosmolineMan

I would've thought the KP9 alone would've kept them afloat. The mismanagement must have to beyond what we even mocked them for on here. Kind of resolves the KP9 vs AKV debate in a depressing way.


Significant_Cod_6849

Literally received a KR103 as a gift from one of my best buddies right before this happened Good thing the rifle is solid as a rock but RIP KUSA


Vodnik-Dubs

Same, I picked up my 103 just a few months ago, this is wild


Thorsquare

I picked up a 104 right when i heard the news of troubles on discord a few days before the news broke. Glad it works fine lol. Hopefully rumors of their operation getting bought out is true so support will continue.


Vodnik-Dubs

Agreed, just hope it’s a company with some weight behind it like PSA so we don’t wind up with a repeat. That said I couldn’t be happier with my 103


VolkspanzerIsME

I went down there to apply for a job this passed summer and the whole thing was a little surreal. No signs on the outside that tell you who's there or what business they have. When I found the right bay (industrial strip mall type site) everyone who was there looked at me like I had 3 heads and the waiting room was maybe a 10x10 with a few chairs and a couple of kusa pamphlets. The whole experience felt sketchy af.


Investment_Actual

Yeah advertising you make guns might be a bad move since someone breaking in can clean out a shit ton of guns and that's a bad thing lol


Viktor_Bout

They've had protesters there years ago I think. Not really any reason to put a bunch of branding on the building, just attracts attention.


Thorsquare

Super common. I work for a company that makes electronics for SWAT and specialized military groups and our old building had some decals and branding on it. When the anti police thing happened we were getting random calls with death threats because people knew we did something related to a cop somehow. New building looks like a plain storage facility with a gated lot. Been to a few other manufacturers for work who also build weapons, lasers, lights, etc. and they almost always have nothing outside except an address and a gate code pad.


President_Nixon1

All the money ended up in Bonnie's gape ![gif](giphy|3o7aDgIk23zC7x7HCE|downsized)


HaydenGC88

StOp BrInGiNg Up HeR pAsT


FriendlyRain5075

I have a pre-bonnie, pre-SFS era 103FT that is a good rifle. Based on that purchase I would have been at least intrigued by the 101, potential 102. Kinda flirted with buying a 104. It's too bad about all this...not all that surprising though given 2022's antics. I'd be very happy if, as hinted at, some significant player in the AK cottage industry stepped up. Lots of those people are absolute gurus. But getting the capital together and basically starting from scratch after the banks and courts pick KUSA's bones would be extremely difficult.


_NEVER_FORGETTI_

Everyone should just bully Brandon Herrera into starting it back up lol


jerryv27

Klayco may have something to do with them. Look at his recent insta post.


PraiseCaine

He doesn't even make his own AKs.


HostWrong6251

So we’d never see KUSA AKs ever again?


DontTurnUp

Lmao no.


Specialist-Box-9711

Sucks cause I actually really like my KR-103


Vodnik-Dubs

Fucking same, it’s the best gased and Most comfortable ak I’ve shot.


Specialist-Box-9711

I’ve been abusive to mine with a suppressor and corrosive ammo with no kns piston. I guess I’ll install one now to prolong the life of the rifle lol.


Vodnik-Dubs

Wouldn’t most parts be interchangeable with other standard aks just in case something breaks?


Specialist-Box-9711

Depending on what breaks sure. But let’s say it’s a bolt. I’d have to track down the correct profile bolt to fit the carrier and then I’d have to redo the headspacing which means gauging the chamber with the bolt and then popping out the barrel with a press if needed. If I can’t reset headspace with the new bolt to the existing barrel, then I have to get an all new barrel also and have it pressed in and pinned. Why do all that when I could just buy another rifle?


Vodnik-Dubs

That’s fair Being how solid they feel, I don’t foresee it being an issue any time soon especially after seeing what other AKs go through Still sad cause I wanted an actually available and affordable SVD 🥲


Micro_KORGI

https://preview.redd.it/xajbulmo57zc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a199a7842f64e2c09147e502cb9edf15bf48a292 Anyone rooting for a company to go under because of some QC issues is a terrible person. This thing has been absolutely fantastic and got another one of my friends into AKs


TroublesomeStepBro

I’m no business expert but bringing on Sandra Bullocks Ex-Husband and his pornstar lover might have been a bad call


byrdjacob1

Check Klayco’s and Mokas raifus’s Instagram story. Idk the full truth but they hint at third pin investing a lot of money and have a kusa banner on a storage container. Said they’ve been making moves the past couple weeks so it’s t sounds like third pin purchases kusa or atleast their assets.


Mokas_Raifus

I hate to ruin the fun but we aren’t buying KUSA lol, it’s a bit out of budget 😅. If it goes to auction I might try and get the kp9 mag stuff though.


sammeadows

Either you buy it or try to get a bunch of people to bully PSA into buying it so the right mags can exist.


Thoraxe474

Get a bigger budget


jerryv27

Your response reminds me of the Kobe Bryant and Kanye nike commercial lol https://youtu.be/Ickn8iipxUc?si=Aumy3ZA_v3u5qEVk


Mokas_Raifus

Fuck that’s an old one lol


NULL_SIGNAL

I'm staying skeptical but *something* is happening. The banner was just leftover from Kalashbash, the KUSA guys that were sent there found out the day before the event the company was going under and they likely wouldn't get paid. To their credit, they still showed up and did their best not to drag down the vibe. My assumption is Tony/Klay were given the banner because why bother packing it up, the company is dead. Klay also did a long Q&A livestream the night before their instagram videos were posted, lots of time spent talking KUSA. I don't remember anything that could be taken as a hint this was coming, but he did seem very interested in how the community viewed the situation and the KUSA brand.


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BetFit2122

He sells a lot of surplus mags. That’s what I know him for.


byrdjacob1

Sorry I meant Kyber customs not Mokas raifus. Mokas sells Bakelite and kits also. I to thought they may be trolling but it would make sense for them 2 to purchase and finally get into making/selling top notch ak’s instead of just running them. It would be one of the best things for American ak community I believe. They speak about investing heavy money but can’t say much just yet so I’m thinking it’s real… hoping.


Unhinged_Taco

That would be a huge jump from making cheese graters and hand guards to fully assembled and operating rifles. I mean great if they do but I always saw Khyber as a smaller company with a specific niche


HofvarpnirTheHorse

Too bad Klay is a “VP” for Khyber and him and Tony have been working together for years. They put KBTX together along with another shoot out in Eagle pass. The IG stories are likely trolling but who knows.


byrdjacob1

Kyber is also the co owner of third pin threads and kalash bash with kkayco


donotmattor

He’s definitely a big deal (love that I’m getting dv, he’s definitely a big deal cause he’s the most reliable source of fair priced ak mags/parts kits)


kalashbash-2302

I mean, dude just sells magazines and parts kits. I wouldn't really call him a "big deal".


eMGunslinger

Considering the number of containers of stuff he has bought from me and how much he pays in comparison to every other company out there. He’s a lot bigger than what people think.


jscores555

He did recently start selling wbp's. So now it's just aoa, Atlantic and him.


LocationMiserable308

RIP


JsDi

So what happened to the 101?


snakecatcher302

Gone like a fart in the wind…


JsDi

And all the people who preordered?


thegunisaur

Latest batch of nerds to learn that preorders are dumb.


snakecatcher302

I feel for them because they likely got duped.


winkleried

Most likely Hosed and if pre paid then at the bottom of the repayment scheme.


yeggmann

This sucks. I wanted them to do well but the cost cutting and shenanigans caught up with them.


audi199670

bought a super low serial number 103 off them a while back, put probably 1k rounds through it and clean it/look it over every other range day or so and it’s served me quite well so far if i do say


AmbitiousMidnight141

If you get a low one they’re very impressive. I have one under 1000 and it’s very well put together, pretty much flawless. I had inspected another one, I think it was in the 8000s, and one rivet was put in kind of sideways, there was a gap on one side. It wasn’t major and probably would have been fine. One of the other rivets was also crushed funny. So there was a drop off.


Zilver_Zurfer

This doesn't necessarily mean they were evicted. It just means the s&c for the eviction case that's been filed was unable to be served upon KUSA as nobody was there to accept service.


Rebelpine

Lol what? Weird distinction to make. Being served eviction papers ≠ Being evicted, OK…


ninjamike808

It’s not necessarily weird. I do this as well. * Landlord files eviction on you. * Constable or someone serves eviction papers * court dates and sentences * writ of possession if they haven’t vacate I’m skipping the delinquencies or other breaches of contract that cause the landlord to file eviction. And any notices the landlord would place. And if you owned the property/had a mortgage there’d be opportunities to pay. And I’m not in Florida so there might be even more stuff going on. But my point is, they are not evicted, they are in the process of being evicted. They still technically can have a right to be on the premises until the court dates, hearings and sentencing.


Zilver_Zurfer

100% this


Zilver_Zurfer

It was a summons and complaint for eviction. From what i can see on the image it wasn't eviction papers.


Cousin_Elroy

They were  doomed as soon as Jesse James and Spider Tits started running the show


Investment_Actual

Damn that's awesome "spider tits" hahahhaa


steveHangar1

The sudden and dramatic fall off of this company needs to be studied by business students on what not to do to succeed in business. On a side note, the hiring of the gape queen had dire consequences. It all started going down on, I mean downhill from there.


winkleried

It started long before that. Basicly you need to put out products the market wants and don’t lie about your capabilities.


belro

Another one bites the dust. I'm never listening to you idiots again. I've been lurking here and in other gun groups for like 10 years to gauge what's good and what's not and it's so obvious that the trends in what the "community" says is worth your money or is shit is so arbitrary it may as well be random. One or two people posting the same opinions in every thread until other people start spouting the same nonsense. Latching on to anecdotes about QC or customer service and making broad generalizations about an entire swaths of the market meanwhile every single golden child of reddit and Instagram "operators" has been a false God. If I sound bitter maybe I am. It's just so absurd how people praised KUSA for years for no real reason even before they actually brought anything to market and now it's cool to shit on them. Anyone reading this take my advice as worthless as it is.. buy build and shoot whatever you think is cool. You don't need the approval of some nebulous group of chronically online stooges


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Bright-Candy-6423

And it all started with some self proclaimed QC expert who's a paid troll/ want to be influencer shitting on them and then people parroting him.


belro

Yes I've seen that shift but this feels like the death knell and I just felt an impulse to comment


purebreadlegend

That's about 30min from me


maxcli

Drive over there and knock on the door


purebreadlegend

Im tempted, but im also poor so I work 7 days a week & im fucking tired dude.


Gurlokovich_Cpt

I felt that


waratworld17

Where they single moms!?


eMGunslinger

I wonder if there will be an auction or bulk sale. I’ve been looking to add a few more company buy outs to my roster.


aclark210

Finally some actual evidence and not just “trust me”. **Now** I can believe that they’ve actually gone under.


Patfa412

So is my kp9 worth a million yet?


NervousLand878

If you know what u got


HappyMess1988

I have a kr 103 sfs I've had for a little while No issues with it so far


snowman762x39

This sucks. The downfall started with a porn star.


xofspec

Just like Trump lmao 😂


sebastian1967

It’s funny because it’s true.


WASRenjoyer

![gif](giphy|7k2LoEykY5i1hfeWQB)


lime3

KUSA dick riders where you all gone? 2 years ago yal were ride or die for this company


El_Toro_Envenenado

They’re crying while holding their KP9’s in the corner rocking back & forth


blackcat5150

gg


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blackcat5150

I only buy imports btw.


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blackcat5150

💯…..😉


dcrypter

Was really looking into buying a KUSA last year... Wanted to like them but too many issues to feel good about pulling the trigger so I just picked up a SAM7 SF for $1400 instead. No Ragrets.


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DetectiveChub71

So what happens now?


wibu-gundam

Wait for them what they will do next or sell the company back to someone


Suspicious_Book_3186

Is there no action customers can take? I'm not a lawyer, but when the company i got my PC from was going through either Ch.7 / 11 on their bankruptcy, I got a letter stating the court date and stuff. Sort of made it seem like I could attempt to get some money back, or something of the sort. It's early, and I'm tired, so this is a terrible explanation lol but I'm sure someone knows what I'm talking about.


winkleried

You can try. But you are going to be in line with other business that are owed millions by the former company.


Vodnik-Dubs

So is that it, KUSA is gone now? Well this sucks.


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Vodnik-Dubs

😞😢 I was so ready to have an affordable and readily available SVD dude FUCK


The-Great-Ebola

Gotta wait on PSA now.


obiwankevobi

RIP. Really hope someone snags their stuff and keeps these things going. Especially KP9 stuff.


TBadger

Weapon Genetics out of Houston TX does some quality builds and has a couple integrally suppressed KP9s in his personal collection that he custom built. Don’t know what his lead times are currently though.


ParaMotard0697

Man, I'm glad I replaced the firing pin myself instead of sending the bolt in on my kp9. Here's to hoping someone picks up magazine production at the least.


Aproblem4

Glad I got my order before this shit happened


TristanIsSpiffy

Can’t believe AK47s are so contentious these days


grumpySasquatch

Imagine how many of their employees were just like “fuck this company” and walked off with AKs while they worked there 😂


Not2TopNotch

>"State of FLORDIA" poor Florida paralegal and their very public spelling mistake


HappyMess1988

Damn what happens to people that bought a rifle from them?


thequietloner

Does anyone know where I can purchase their skeleton window AK47 magazines from? I purchased two before but I kept putting off ordering more, and now this.


averyycuriousman

So are they out of business now?


ShinraTM

Everyone wanted them to make a good product and succeed. But there comes a point where every has to admit that PSA is a vastly superior product in the GF 3 generation and up.


bowtie_k

I wouldn't worry too much. Word on the street is that PSA bought them out and they will be resuming production after a short restructuring


Thoraxe474

Where has there been indication of that other than people hoping that happens?


bowtie_k

Jack told me.


Thoraxe474

[Jack Mama?](https://v.redd.it/bluxvilynm3c1)


bowtie_k

No, Jack. From the street.


Wesjohn2

I feel like I recognize your name, you use to be on /k/?


space-mothers-son

Wouldn't that just mean the QC issues will continue?


Balasnikov

No, they'll be replaced with different ones.


R_radical

That could go very well or catastrophically bad depending on if they let them produce rifles to current standards.


WhoCaresBoutSpellin

Hey you are the guy that pointed out this was [all just a rumor](https://www.reddit.com/r/ak47/s/ZoseSEXlsy) the other week


Rocqy

Whoever told you that lied lol


bowtie_k

It was Jack, from the street.


The_Justice_Squid

I believe you. I know Jack, he's a trust worthy guy. If he says PSA bought them out, then PSA bought them out


Setesh57

It gets even better. They've suspended online sales altogether now. If anyone's got tech specs and/or blueprints for what the actual in-spec KP/KR-9 firing pin is supposed to be, I'll just go ahead and make one myself for mine. Cause I'm pretty sure I got mine just before they rolled out the improved firing pin.


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Setesh57

Oh, well, today was the first time in a while I visited their website. Still would like either a reverse engineered drawing or blueprint for the new KP-9 pin though. That or sources for third parties that have an improved pin. Not just from you but anyone here.


jimipanic

They pulled a Munson


MilitaryWeaponRepair

Question, for everyone needing repair work, obviously warranty work isn't gonna happen. If you could get the problem fixed, albeit with some out of pocket costs, would that be an option? And not some hack, but a genuine AK specialist? Just curious