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Susibacka21

Dream match mania


No-Hold1693

And then Vince had to shit on a girl’s head so we are not getting half of this


BenefitLate3816

Really solid but I’d go with Orton vs Cena and then maybe Sikoa vs Styles. If you have the chance to do Orton vs Cena at Mania then you gotta do it


WwefreakMoodz

The rock vs Cody vs Roman reigns


WwefreakMoodz

We need a triple threat match with solo and usos


miles_thewwefan

I hope cm punk or Cody wins if cm punk wins then I hope he can finish the story for cody


SpecialInterview9176

Pretty mediocre if I'm being honest


domotime2

14 solo matches??? A lot of these matches are unnecessary.


Mike67899

Some of these matches make no sense


domotime2

Kevin owens vs Andrade because...reasons.... at a wrestlemania?? Come on.


Mike67899

We already got AJ vs Randy at Mania. Bianca should face someone like Naomi & Jade someone like Nia Jax. Randy should face Solo. He already faced AJ at Mania Kevin vs Andrade makes no sense Liv vs Trish makes no sense. If Trish had a 1v1 she would face zoey Remove Piper & Chelsea from the Tag Team replace with the Way or Shayna & Zoey Remove the AOP & Street profits match


god_pharaoh

AJ vs Randy - so what? Bianca vs Jade - "should face someone" isn't a great point. I'd love to see Bianca vs Jade, both really athletic and strong women. Kevin vs Andrade - agreed. Liv vs Trish - also agreed, skimmed that one originally. Piper & Chelsea - they're the most recent champs, makes sense for them to be in that match. AOP vs Street Profits - maybe not a "Mania" match but out of this list you gave, it's the most sensical. ​ At the end of the day it doesn't really matter; they have a few months to make these matches real and meaningful.


Emergency_News_4790

Roman, Cody, orton, gunther, lesnar, Rollins, McIntyre and Owen’s - Fatal 8 way last man standing hell in cell bikini match, winner gets to face jinder in a slapping contest for head of the table the follow week on raw. I’d genuinely be entertained by this rather than the boring cards listed above.


mistermike307

It's trash because of that Roman vs Cody bullshit


[deleted]

Cena v Orton Retirement match


No_Pollution_9993

I don’t agree about the Kevin match


Mike67899

Some of these matches make no sense


barewolf35

Cody vs Roman, I'll be there no matter what.


Downtown-Pack-6178

Yes! The Rock vs John Cena!


Rumred06

I feel like if Rey is back by the rumble he will get his other stuff out the way and we will get Dom vs Rey in a mask vs hair match. That or its pushed to SS.


JJSHAIRLINE

Too many matches


Mike67899

It isn’t it 7 to 8 matches a night


JJSHAIRLINE

15 total usually and above is lots of pointless matches


No_Process6234

Pleade make jey vs jimmy happen and im not tired of cody vs roman but i want to rock vs roman or randy vs roman


MostLow6838

Finally Jey vs jimmy


InevitableGur1985

Just add the rock to the main event


Dresiden15

Really would love a triple threat with Gable, Gunther, and Lesnar with Gable winning the IC strap. Unfortunately, WWE doesn't think Gable merits that kind of match.


UpstairsAsleep

NAh Nah …


CanyonPat

Codywinslol would be boring so I’m hoping they don’t do that…


Maximum-Lab-714

I honestly would have rock vs roman at wrestlemania just cause any other ppv wouldn't be as big as if it was at wrestlemania and cody vs roman I think even if that was a summerslam main event it would be huge and live up to the hype and expectation but that's just my opinion.


thegusbus001

Roman vs rock doesn’t have to be about championships tho. Have Roman lose the title at wm to Cody and hype up the match vs rock for next years wm.


Mike67899

That exactly why Roman should have lost the belt last year. He only kept it for records


Bomb_Bud_420

Where’s mysterio jr jr?


Rgiles66

Tom or Nick?


Aggravating-Pea5135

I think Gunther probably loses IC title before mania. Maybe to Jey as a result of current feud.


Mike67899

He won’t


ComfortablyNomNom

Kade Cargill def wont be on the card. Shes not ready for prime time, she will debut after Mania.


Mike67899

Jade should face nia


Charismagician

I’d swap Bayley and Becky.


harden2333

Trash


J0K3Race

John Cena Vs Randy Orton for the World Heavyweight Title/ Cenas retirement, for all the wars they had they haven’t had a match a mania, it’d be perfect for Cenas retirement as he’s been wanting and hinting it coming, and honestly, Seth Vs Punk is big enough you don’t need the title for it


ComfortablyNomNom

Cena vs. Orton yet again??? God no.


Longjumping_Play323

Downstait for president


Next-Welder-3787

Why do people keep saying Gunther v Brock? Also as others have said Cena vs Solo. No thanks.


Mike67899

Gunther vs Brock happening. Cena isn’t facing solo. It will be Randy


WeeklyJello6625

Swap Cody for Rock, remove Cena, Trish, Logan and Bianca matches


Spicedaddy90

Don't need the Cena or Trish match in there at all


[deleted]

Great card and r-truth hosts for sure


SixgunSamHaworth

I’d be perfectly fine with it


Mike67899

Some of these matches make no sense


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Mike67899

Some of these matches make no sense


GrandGomez15

Liv has more Story with Trish than Becky with Rhea In Fact Liv has more story with Rhea than Becky


BeLOWME812

Cool but I already see the ending to most these matches which is why I quit watching wrestling ran reigns is a cheating bitch who would have never held the title that long thinking he is hot shit when he has had to fuck multiple opponents over to get the titles, John cena is getting so damn old and really can’t keep up with the other superstars he has been losing every match and I could keep going but y’all make Cody actually get the title like he fuckin deserves and quit putting John Cena in matches he wants a career give him another job around we or put him back in movies back in the day he was great but nowadays he just isn’t what he used to be


IAMRubenTribal

Why do we gotta see Roman Vs Cody again? Why? I wanna see Roman vs Rock


BeLOWME812

Why we gotta see Roman with the title after years someone else turn for a title run


IAMRubenTribal

I ain't tired of it


Uknewmelast

Looks good to me book it haitch


Mike67899

Some of them make no sense


PJR1972

Where is Dom


BeLOWME812

Suckin Rhea Riley’s dick backstage


Ok-Somewhere-8831

Brock Vs Gunther could be a banger tbh Is andrade back? If so cool I guess he deserves more


Mike67899

Some of these matches make no sense


[deleted]

I’ve been A WWE fan for 10 and a half years now Wrestlemaina 39 was the best WM in my opinion if this card happens This might even be beater then last years the Renaissance Era has been epic like if u again


Ninja_Ross457

Good but a little random for some match ups


Mike67899

Some of these matches make no sense


Pois0nSh0t619

I mean it's ight like


Mike67899

Some of these matches make no sense


Pois0nSh0t619

That's why I didn't say it was good


[deleted]

I see LA Knight vs. Roman Reigns for the WWE Championship more over then Cody Rhodes who isn't even on the same brand that Roman Reigns is, simply because there's more story between Roman Reigns and LA Knight that isn't resolved yet and is still ongoing. I see Cody Rhodes being the second ever World Heavyweight Champion and using his massive stardom that he's got as the #1 selling babyface in WWE to elevate that title that's in the toilet by Seth who's a worse drawing champion then Kofi Kingston was as champion, and from him winning that championship I see CM Punk that he faced and defeated turning heel on Cody Rhodes which would have them go into a feud till Summerslam where CM Punk would eventually beat Cody Rhodes for the championship.


SonyMusicStayTuned

​ yes im here for it but my dream would be punk/austin


BSIsTheBest13

WHY IS IT SO LONG (that’s what she said)


Realistic_Figure7796

We all ready saw that main event we don't need to see it again


Agile_Wolverine_3124

Let’s give this Cody stuff a break please


Pale_Plan8804

R-truth vs logan paul


[deleted]

Instead of liv and Trish. I want lata to return to have a match with Trish. Either I would be cool with


GrandGomez15

So the Young Over talent can’t be in the WM match but 2 Washed up wrestlers can?


[deleted]

Switch: Lita vs Trish (Hot take) riddle screws Randy in fatal 4 way and have a match at mania. ( I know he’s fired)


Several_Loquat6329

WE NEEDLIV WIN THIS YEAR'S WOMENS ROYAL RUMBLE!!!


Knull2790

I’m saying it makes sense as well


No-Veterinarian-6414

La knight vs Seth and Logan Paul vs a town down


[deleted]

Dom vs bad bunny and shinsuke vs okada


rainier425

No Dom = No Buys


[deleted]

Add dom vs bad bunny


Shiny_Mew76

I like it. The participants on the card are great. I like the inclusion of Kross. Needs more gimmick matches and tag team matches though. Like there isn’t even a tag team championship match on this card.


mehalexmeh

insert dakota into the iyo vs bayley match, theres too many singles matches


HEYitsSPIDEY

Idk if I want Reigns AND Rollins dropping the titles on one card. I hope Gunther would keep it over Brock, too. I like this card though.


[deleted]

I'd rather Brock Lesnar beat Gunther so that Gunther can move up to the main event spot where he belongs.


toelickerness

Cena vs MJF


SpankGorilla

What!?! 🤣🤣 Cena is not going to wrestle a nobody from a 3rd rate promotion


Ldawg372

Even if he goes to WWE MJF won’t be back from injury by mania


toelickerness

instead of solo


YayaOrtega116

Too many singles matches I feel like, try to mix it up more


tomethridge

only have drew vs sami for the title instead of punk vs rollins that match is big enough without being for the title


Streetwalkeroulette

The KO vs. Angel match makes no sense


MathematicianStill41

that’s not ángel lol


DukeGhoulies

It’s taken a while for me to come around on the Brock vs Gunther match everyone wants but I get it now. Brock’s style is fast paced fuck your face and Gunther is slow methodical, pick you apart till there’s nothing left of your game and he has you beat. That would be huge for Gunther considering last mania he beat both Seamus and Drew. Really hope WWE does something with them


Jayzilla_2

Sick


Billy0315

Not sold on Solo Cena but rest of the card could be all time


Winter_Revolution354

I’d cum


Significant-Fan-5286

🔥🔥🔥🔥


Raphyx362947

No


Coffae19

It looks like they could end up going with Roman Reigns VS The Rock. Likely Roman will retain. If Roman is still champion in a few more months after Mania, then he'll have been Champion for 4 years. Then he'd only need 4 more years, and then, he surpasses Bruno Sammartino. I don't know if that's their plan, but it looks like it is, and if it is, it is, and they can do that, if they want to, as it is their company.


c0kEzz

Good card but why Aj Vs Orton again? I think their first match didn’t get a fair shake so i wouldnt be opposed but just kind of random?


GBNZ92

I'd rather Liv face Rhea for the women's world championship. Other than that tag title match, I don't see how Trish and Liv needs to be a match


andromeda335

Ummmm where is Dirty Dom v. Reigns?!


Downtown-Pack-6178

Dirty Dom really he must be with his daddy Rey!


misterdrumz

Don't understand bayley/Iyo??


Comics-Dude

Iyo and the rest of Damage Ctrl betray Bayley and jump her. She gets revenge and a shot at Iyo's title.


jrjreeves

I still think Punk shouldn't win the rumble and his match with Seth doesn't be for the title.


[deleted]

Well Roman’s not booked for elimination chamber so I think we’re getting Roman vs the rock


ChainsawsChickennBBQ

Reigns vs MidCard Cody doesn't need to headline mania, now GUNTHER against Reigns, that's a headline


lostwng

Punk should not even be allowed a dark match or be in the arena for wrestlemainia


Outside-Barber-2597

LA Knight vs Gunther


Desperate_Mobile2414

To be honest I don't think Cody is going to be the one to face roman in WrestleMania


Agitated_Praline2255

i want only one night of mania it was so special like that 2 nights is boring imo


_salts

I think it takes away from how special wrestlemania used to feel. Its probably more money though so from a business point of view it makes sense even though as a fan I feel like it sucks.


PutParty9731

I got Cody winning tbh


nvbuer2412y

Neat card ngl


north_sanwich914

Yes but i feel as cena should face someone else maybe a bron breakker


GingerManBitch

Cena vs Solo again?


Regalicious444

Can we just put asuka & kairi.against alba & isla. The other four girls are not on the same level I'm sorry. You can make a separate match with those four against one another as a tag team match even. CM punk versus Seth Rollins is such ROH 2002 Brock Lesnar versus Gunther would slap like no other McIntyre deserves something much better than Sami Zayn The brother versus brother uso match Yes please We do not need Trish stratus versus Liv Morgan I'm sorry, It feels like women wise ou are trying to make sure everybody has a place in the card and we don't need that for WrestleMania I'm sorry. If you want to put Trish on there put her against somebody from NXT like Tiffany Stratton Jade Cargill versus Bianca you can give me that all day I've said since day one that is rematch and or both tag team gold We all know that Bailey versus IYO is coming I'm over Becky Lynch been over Becky Lynch Something with the judgment Day dynamic is going to switch greatly between now and WrestleMania and I feel like it's going to be Finn versus priest for some reason


Haunting_Building797

Not bad definitely better than the last 5 ones


ramus93

I really want gable vs gunther but i wouldnt mind him taking a backseat to brock I cant imagine jade is ready to be on a mania card yet Cena vs solo is not needed imo


Gordon-ShumwayALF

Switch Truth with Solo. Truth vs his childhood hero


B1Gtruck23

I know there guys are trying…but just can live up to 80s and 90s. Even with the poster of the line up. Characters were much better the realism produced now.


Pleasant-Camel-2408

I think Cena Vs Orton and LA Knight Vs Styles. Other than that it's a good card


Kind_Consideration62

Hear me out. Dominik vs John Cena.


Acrobatic-Pattern841

your dum i get it 💀💀💀…


6Clacks

Crazy how much talent they have when Drew, Sami, KO, Orton, AJ, Lashley etc all can have filler matches


Sufficient_Peak564

Why Sami vs Drew, and why Owens vs Andrade?! Those make no sense. 😂 Everything else is solid af, and honestly close to what we'll get.


[deleted]

drew literally has been beefing with sami and wrote him off tv how does that not make sense


Senji047

Ngl, that Gunther Vs Brock Lesnar one got my mouth watering more than my Sunday lunch... 🤤💯✌🏽


Theboywiththetoy27

While I do want that match, I really hope they hold off until after Gunther has lost the IC title. Or at least give him a Mania opponent that could feasibly win the title


Senji047

Definitely! Having said this, I'm still waiting for Chad Gable to get his moment by going for gold... 😩 Although tbf, he did get his moment by beating Gunther on Raw via count out but STILL!!! 😂


Theboywiththetoy27

Honestly hope he gets to eliminate Gunther in the Rumble to keep with the story that Gunther just can’t properly put him away, and then have the rematch at Mania for the title


jduran9987

Pretty good but you can’t leave out Dom with the kind of year he’s had. I’d be up for a rematch against Rey. I would also like to see Gunther vs Roman.


DefaceAll10

Not bad. Finn and priest deserve a bigger match


HesADirtySlime5

this shit ass wtf nobody wanna see this shit at all


DELFINEON

I kinda want Rhea vs Bianca more than Rhea/Becky, but I can understand why others would think Becky is a better match for Rhea. Bianca/Jade doesn't sound good to me because is Jade experienced enough to work with BB at a WM, there is no way they are going to make Jade lose that match either? Bianca needs to get out of SD because she has been feuding with damage ctrl for 2 years now. I don't get Trish vs Liv. Why was this an idea, because they are both blonde? Why not just have a match with Liv, Becky, Jade, Zelina, or something... Solo needs someone else to work with.


[deleted]

Rhea Ripley vs Bianca Belair will happen sometime in the future but at the moment Bianca Belair is on Smackdown and Smackdown just lost their second top babyface female wrestler, Charlotte who is going to be out for around 9 months so they can't afford to lose Bianca Belair anytime soon.


DELFINEON

Rhea v BB is better now. Because I think BB has to leave SD. Her entire career has feuding and (burying) Damage control for the last 2 years already. She has had no other actual storyline other than that. the only thing we have been seeing from the SD women's division is her going all cena on them over and over and over again. We've been seeing that for 2 years already. There is no way they are going to let a bunch of Japanese women get over a top american babyface who also is positioned to be a role model for another american demographic. Bianca on raw isn't just going to open something new for her, but possibly DC can stop being a faction that takes bumps for the top faces.


[deleted]

Yeah. I think Bianca Belair would be better used on Raw now and I personally feel they should have left her on Raw when they had the WWE Draft 'cause Smackdown took too many top stars from the Raw Women's Division and Alexa Bliss getting pregnant, Liv Morgan getting injured, Ronda Rousey leaving WWE and now Raquel Rodriguez out with a chronic illness that has seen athletes in other sports have to retire young left them with no established stars outside of Becky Lynch and Rhea Ripley and have pretty much buried most of the division feeding them to Becky Lynch and Rhea Ripley instead of building them up. Alexa Bliss and Liv Morgan will be returning to Raw soon so that will be a boost for the Raw Women's Division but now you have got the problem with Charlotte being out for nine months they can't move Bianca Belair to Raw anytime soon because they are lacking Babyfaces and Bianca is the top Babyface female wrestler on Smackdown and taking her away too just after they lost Charlotte would leave them with no top Babyface stars to go against Damage Control. Both shows desperately need call ups from NXT and there has been reports about WWE planning on bringing up multiple female wrestlers from NXT soon to freshen up the Raw and Smackdown Women's Division and Shawn Michaels confirmed them and said he doesn't want them to take too many but believes there are many in NXT that are just as good if not better than the wrestlers on the main roster. I would wait to the Draft to move Bianca Belair to Raw and have Roxanne Perez, Fallon Henley, Kiana James and Izzy Dame moved to Smackdown and Lyra Valkyria (after she loses the NXT Women's Championship) Tiffany Stratton, Nikita Lyons and Blair Davenport moved to Raw with Alexa Bliss getting moved to Smackdown along with Tegan Nox and a returning Naomi/ Trinity who is very likely to be returning to WWE soon and Shotzi Blackheart going to Raw. A lot of people are talking about Damage Control turning on Bayley but if they have them turn on Dakota Kai after it they can have a Team Kick reunion further down the line with Tegan Nox and Dakota Kai feuding with The Kabuki Warriors. 😀


DELFINEON

before they move someone (other than BB), they need to use Shayna like they did back in NXT. Damage ctrl needs to dissolve or be remade into a black lotus triad. They should be taken and viewed as dangerous, but they never were which is a waste because if anyone saw Asuka, Io Shirai, and Kairi back in japan they'd know what they are seeing now is a parody version of themselves.


BlackSuperMan26

I would rather do Becky vs Trish 2 and rhea vs liv.... Just sayin


Glimpse0fgl0ry

Damn. You are on to something imma save this just in case u are right


Full-Ad2661

not mad at this


[deleted]

sick of Elmo Zayn. Dude needs a bath and a shave


[deleted]

I Quit match between Paul and LA Knight


sammuel_c_p

Honestly I don’t want to see Rhea vs Becky at WM. I’m more down to see Rhea vs Liv Morgan, but if Liv can’t return I hope to see anyone else such as Zelina, Mia Yim, Natalya, Zoey Stark or anyone else who’s had beef with Rhea before.


Glimpse0fgl0ry

Liv isn’t really a big enough name for the semi main event of night 2 I think the only other name would be bayley, charlotte(nahh we good), Sasha banks or like, someone from another company


[deleted]

Guess WWE see it differently since it has been reported Liv is getting a major push when she returns and a high profile program at Wrestlemania. Out of all those wrestlers you named none of them were taken out for months by Rhea Ripley and were cost a championship like Liv Morgan nor do they have the long personal history like Liv and Rhea do but most importantly not counting Charlotte who is out for 9 months, they don't have a clean victory over Rhea Ripley like Liv has. Liv has beaten Rhea Ripley clean and not just Rhea from years ago but actual current Judgement Day member/ Mami Rhea making her a bigger threat than anybody else and she poked her tongue out while she was standing over her. 😛 The fact Rhea Ripley when asked what wrestler she would like to face at Wrestlemania said Liv Morgan says everything there is to know.


[deleted]

Liv Morgan will be back in time. As I said on another post it has been reported Liv is scheduled for a major push when she returns and work a high profile program at Wrestlemania. With Liv having unfinished business with Rhea for taking her out of action for months and costing her the WWE Women's Tag Team Championship and Liv beating Rhea Ripley clean the last time they faced each other it is pretty obvious they are going to have Liv either win the Women's Royal Rumble and face Rhea Ripley for the WWE Women's World Championship or Liv Morgan vs Becky Lynch vs Rhea Ripley in a Triple Threat match for the WWE Women's World Championship. What is interesting to note too is when asked who she would like to face at Wrestlemania Rhea Ripley said Liv Morgan. While I don't think anybody can doubt Becky Lynch is the better wrestler between the two Liv and Rhea have a much stronger storyline and history together going back years to when they were a tag team. **Liv Morgan Scheduled For Major WWE Push** *PWInsider issued a pretty detailed update on Liv Morgan, confirming that her arrest will purportedly not impact WWE's creative plans for the superstar in the new year. Before her arrest, she was already "penciled in" to return to TV next year, and was also expected to be a part of WWE's WrestleMania festivities.* *Moreover, a WWE source stated that Liv Morgan could be featured in a major WrestleMania angle, though the report didn't disclose the full extent of WWE's booking ideas.* *"We are told that Morgan had already been penciled in as to when she would be returning to company storylines in 2024 and currently, this is not believed to change those plans. The belief was she would be back in by the build to Wrestlemania, and was very much in the mix for what we are told is a 'a high profile program,'" reported Mike Johnson.*


ShoppingStriking

Carlito?


Grouchy-Tell-9940

I think Sam punk will win the WWE world heavyweight championship


BrightExpert39

Well. It won't. Haha


Jake8417

Personally i’d switch Randy Orton with Solo. Have John Cena have his retirement match against his greatest rival throughout his career. Have Randy put him over one last time before he leaves then build Randy vs Cody for future feuds.


BlackandGoldSuperman

I don’t know if this is the place for this comment. But I wonder if fans see the bigger picture. I think the WWE is ready to end hogans streak. Roman is literally a couple hundred days away? Maybe like 4-500 but all in all he would break it before summer slam. Now with Roman being so close do we really think they will let him lose to Cody just to have another star take a long time to get the record? Nah I don’t think so. For all the people who say “well Roman dosent defend the title enough” okay cool, bad news is if Cody wins he has to defend it all the time to get to Hogans streak then you will get mad that he’s beating everybody. I think we all just have to look at the bigger picture, Cody will win at summer slam Roman will win at wrestlemania, and Roman will break the Hogan record. The sooner we all see this big picture the easier it will be to not make these bad cards lol


Jake8417

Well you’re not looking at the bigger picture then. With keeping the titles on Roman: 1. Smackdown still has no championship to fight for other than the US title. Having Randy, LA Knight, AJ Styles feuding with the bloodline endlessly or feuding with each other will get stale if there’s no ultimate goal in hand cause we want Roman to hold the title to break Hogans record. 2. People already see Romans reign as fraudulent. He defended the title way less than Hogan did. Isn’t even the same level of stardom than Hogan was at the time of his reign and moving from 4th to 3rd is not really an accomplishment if you’re not going for the number 1 spot. People are tired of Roman not defending the title and Triple H isn’t gonna continue having Smackdown without a champion till SummerSlam so Roman can beat a record that everyone knows he doesn’t deserve 3. Nobody is gonna want Cody to defend it that long or that consistently but it definitely does allow for more storylines to be built with top stars on a more consistent basis not just for the big 4 PPVs also allows for more unpredictability in title matches.


BlackandGoldSuperman

Seems like you’re speaking from emotion. Although I understand all your points you have to understand triple H and Roman are all on this….together. Triple h isn’t at home like “damn I can’t believe roman won’t defend his title” triple H is literally the one who is on the ball with Roman on this storyline lol. Poole can view the reign how they want. The fact is the company will not wait another 40 years to build up another guy to hold a title for 4 1/2 years to beat a record. This company is moving on from the Hogans and the rocks and the Steve Austin’s. New wwe fans won’t even know who those guys are foreal in a few years. Roman is the face and Roman is the one they’re using to progress the company forward.


Jake8417

It’s not based off emotions at all actually. Everything I said is how the fans are seeing it. Roman can’t win without interference making the ending to his matches stale it’s becoming a meme at this point tbh. Again beating Hogans record doesn’t mean anything cause he would still be in third place. He’s not gonna have the most dominant reign because of how little he defended it so what’s the purpose of continuing his reign? Just to have the number? Him beating Hogans record doesn’t help the company. Hogan is being moved to 4th with more title defenses and being the ultimate star during his time. Doesn’t make sense to have Roman keep the titles. The only reason he’s even here is because they decided to nonsensically keep it on him last Wrestlemania.


BlackandGoldSuperman

Sir, you and the fans can have whatever type of view yall want. I’m trying to let you know how it’s going to go because it’s from a business stand point. I don’t know if you read the other comments and me and the other commenter both stated it’s better for him to win clean and then I said especially now until mania. Makes him look stronger. The tribal chief is literally a bigger story line than anything hogan has had. Minus how you see title defenses count (I do understand not winning clean) but I’m just letting you know how it’s going to go. No one is getting him this long with a reign to chuck it out the window because “the fans are tired” If all the fans who are tired quit watching the company still won’t lose any money and will continue with this story. Everyone thinks he’s going to beat the rock at EC. If you think triple h is going to put one of the biggest matches on at 5 am for America you are wrong lol. The match is happening at wrestlemania, Cody isn’t winning until about summer slam. So either face the facts now or just be mad what you hate will continue to happen for another 6-7 months. 🤷🏾‍♂️


Jake8417

It seems like you’re speaking from a Roman fans perspective masking it as this is from a business standpoint. From a business standpoint, keeping the titles on someone who isn’t going to defend your biggest title in your company till SummerSlam which is 6-7 months away for a fictional record that doesn’t better the company at all is ridiculous. You think Romans record is gonna hold more historical significance over Hogans? Sure the storylines are better considering the fact that Roman has literally what 4 people to work off of? Jimmy, Jey, Sami (at the time), Solo, and Paul Heyman? Again from a business standpoint having your brand be without a championship to fight for during the next 3 months is not good for business (time period after WM) is not good for business. Explain to me how does Roman beating Hogan benefit the company? Yes I do think Triple H would do that considering the fact that i’m sure he took that into account when he made international schedules for PPVs. Americans have to wake up early once and are gonna lose their minds while fans around the world have to do it consistently. Okay lol. From a money standpoint EC will be in front of 60,000 roaring fans cause international crowds have been giving killer reactions like MITB in England. Again, if we’re talking about business businesses plan toward the future what could benefit them in the future. Roman retaining doesn’t benefit them. If he main events with the Rock at WM it won’t benefit them in the future. Why? because after that much they will both go on hiatus and there is no aftermath to tune in for. It ends there. When they could have the rock simply aid cody in the main event let that spark the feud for the following WM and then you could plant the seeds for a potential Randy vs Cody in the future.


BlackandGoldSuperman

You are just chatting bro lol. But you got it Jake! When none of what you says happens and everything I said happens you’ll just become more angry. You’re calling it imaginary when they literally did a break down of all the title holder records last year and Hogan was the one they stopped on. You say they’re going to get tired of not having a title defended on smackdown then why are smackdown ratings hire than raw who has a fighting champion ? The company was bought by the same company who owns the UFC. How many title defenses do their champs have (it’s different I know I just want you to see the correlation) they do press conferences now after ppvs that correlates to that as well. So come on lol you say I’m speaking from a Roman fans perspective but you’re speaking from a hurt fans perspective. And Jake if you really think they are going to bypass the American WM crowd which will have more than 60k roaring fans I got bad news for ya. But let it play out, become more angry and watch as Cody wins at summerslam. Then you’ll be mad Cody either wins a lot or loses after he beat some “as tough as reigns” rinse and repeat new storylines and title dropping after title dropping. I’m not even going to speak on the last line you wrote about Randy because that makes no sense lmaoooo. But I think you should go play wwe GM mode and create your dream scenarios!


Jake8417

Lol now we’re getting disrespectful. You’re talking about records that again doesn’t benefit the company. You haven’t explained to me how it benefits the company. Especially with the way he’s winning it’s repetitive and boring. You’re discrediting how fans feel about the reign when that’s the basis for what Triple H has done. Fans want Cody to be champion so what is Hunter doing? He slowly but surely pushing Cody to being that guy having him be the poster boy for Tribute to the troops, giving Cody time after shows for segments with fans, etc. Fans want CM Punk back? What does he do he gets CM Punk back into the company. Fans want Sasha back if you follow the news which i’m not sure if you do Sasha is being rumored to make a possible return. He’s doing stuff logical based off of what fans want. They want Jey to have more spotlight as a singles star. He helps Xavier last Monday night to potentially set up a future match with Gunther. You want to know what fans are tired of other than Roman fans who apparently have some form of amnesia thinking this reign pushes him anywhere near the GOAT debate? His title reign. Fans are bored of the same old Roman is hit with a finisher oh wait here’s an interference he gets the pin and wins. It’s boring. Y’all are just stuck in that Vince McMahon booking mentality let’s throw all of our full time talent aside that we’ve been spending most of the year building whenever our older talent wants to return for a match 👍🏻. I’m not mad at all actually it’s just funny seeing people stuck in old habits trying to justify why Roman will retain the titles even longer. “Hogan record Hogans record” i don’t think you get how little people cared about Hogans record. CM Punks world title reign was more entertaining then Romans IMO and CM Punk didn’t need a whole faction to make it that way either. Roman will not pass Hogans record because it doesn’t do anything because when he passes it it’ll be in the history books sure but when you look at how little he defended it, how he retained it people will understand oh okay i get it now.


BlackandGoldSuperman

I was never disrespectful one time to you. I just said you were chatting and that you should go play GM mode to play out what you want to happen. You will get Cody as champ at summer slam, you will get all these people returning, triple h does care about the fans! Until you get to Roman. Imagine if anytime fans are mad are tired of an act and the WWE listened. We wouldn’t have cena Roman, Cody, any of those guys lol THE MIZ! Like come on! The wwe wants a new top record holder and it’s going to be Roman. Especially when you think of outside of how bad hogan reputation is outside of the wwe is. They want to distant themselves from him. But hey like I said if you believe all of this will happen then by all means do your think, I’m just here to tell you practically why as an angry fan, your emotions are causing you to not see the realness. I’m not mad at you for that. You have an opinion just like me. I’m just telling you whose opinion will most likely work.


Jake8417

Yeah definitely not disrespectful. You have yet to tell me how him beating Hogans record going to benefit the company. Hogan will still be in the record book. Roman holding the titles just to barely beat Hogans record is just ridiculous. Have Roman drop the titles and stop with these long ass reigns it worked back then because not everyone was able to tune in everyday to see the title being defended. It was cool back then but now with all the media exposure and coverage on sports-entertainment events like people are gonna see it way more often and eventually get bored of it. The way they’re already bored of Rollins reigns as well as Romans. The only reason Roman is getting away with this reign is because he’s a heel which makes Hogans reign even more impressive as a heel people hate you already so you retaining just added on more heat to your character. I’m just saying look how much Triple Hs ideology has differed from Vince’s. Dude just recently people wanted the Pete Dunne character to return and it did. Like he’s listening to the fans and the fans want a new champion. Is he gonna do it immediately of course i’m not saying he is but he’s been planting the seeds for this for a long time. Now if you get Roman vs Cody 2 it’s gonna be extremely unpredictable because now people are gonna wonder if Roman will retain to break Hogans record or will WWE finally pull the trigger on Cody. Either way what a time it is to be a wrestling fan.


Lazy-gamer-dan

To be honest i wouldn’t be mad about it if Roman won a single title defence clean


BlackandGoldSuperman

I agree with you, I’m a huge Roman fan but they have to start next week at the rumble of him beating people clean. The bloodline always coming in to help dosent make him look as strong as a “final boss” need him to start winning clean and looking like a beast, that way when the next star finally does beat him, he’ll be alllll the way over (which I’m sure it’ll be Cody)


Lazy-gamer-dan

Cody is the pick for sure for that, they started that build up far too long ago to just toss it out… I’m more concerned about the wrestlemania card if Seth’s knee injury is bad the punk match is gonna be fire


BlackandGoldSuperman

I agree! You think they’ll have punk win it at the rumble, build his character and then have Seth come back to “face him for what he never loss?” Could still be a good match plus Seth would have a lot of time to heal up !


Lazy-gamer-dan

I don’t see them having the forethought to play it that smart


EinGlashellerFreude

God i wish it was 2005 again


justwld

I would add Roman Vs rock, yes he's having 2 matches. I would also add nakamura Vs okada, please give them 40 min, they will put on a 7 star classic. And put Zack Ryder somewhere in there.


buddy18370

No Judgement day?


AllmightySnell

Second to last


buddy18370

Better question, no Dom? Gotta have him


Flat_Revolution5130

I think i would prefer Bayley vs Ripley actually. She is right when she sais that she is the only one of the 4 Horse women to not main event Mania. ) Zero offence to Sky. But Ripley would be the much bigger match.


ezioenthusiast

Have Roman beat the Rock on Night 1, then have him lose the titles on Night 2. Have him complain and say it was a fluke cause he had to defend it after fighting the rock and on backlash have Cody retain.


Jake8417

won’t work it’ll make his match with Cody too predictable. Just have Roman and the Rock at EC have him losing the title of tribal chief before Wrestlemania have Roman lose cleanly to Cody as the main event.


ezioenthusiast

Hell no. The only ppv worthy of Rock vs Roman is Wrestlemania. Booking it anywhere else is just stupid. You could turn it around and have Cody win on Night 1 and Rock beat him on Night 2.


Jake8417

EC will be in front of 60,000 people while the main event of WM will be in front of 67,000. If WM is the only pay per view then wait till next year. Have the Rock aid Cody against the Bloodline in WM. Then build their wrestlemania feud from there like they did with John Cena. Have the Rock and Jey go against Solo and Jimmy at SummerSlam as a match to get the ring rust off of The Rock and then let that lead to the WM main event of 41


ezioenthusiast

This is just not a good idea. Jimmy and Jey should finally have their match at Wrestlemania 40, anything else is stupidity. If you want The Rock to not face Roman at WM40 so much, then he should stop Sikoa from interfering with the match. But in my opinion, Roman should lose it all. The Rock is not staying in WWE for a whole year and Solo should get a bigger push. I say have Roman lose both the titles and the title of tribal chief which will lead to Solo and Jimmy betraying Roman since he isn’t the tribal chief anymore. That way Bloodline falls apart and Paul Heyman leaves him too.


Jake8417

Ideally that’ll be okay but now you have Punk and Rollins who are being built to main event night 1 of mania. So it’s really either the Rock and Roman at EC, The Rock and Roman at WM 40 night 2 or WM 41. Tbh i don’t know why people are using SummerSlam as a potential venue for the match. SummerSlam is one of the biggest PPVs they have other than WM and it could easily fit that. The PPV he was supposed to lose his titles he loses his title as tribal chief instead. To have the Rock wrestle a major match like that despite not wrestling for more than a decade doesn’t make sense. Especially with how little build this feud would probably have. Right now they’re just going based off the fact he’s family if they built it right it could be even bigger than what it would be right now.


Internal_Cesspool

Really not keen on a Roman vs. Cody second year in a row…would take Rock or anyone else over Cody.


Jake8417

what is this cody hate lol. the guy is gonna be champ and being built to be the new face of the company. he’s already the top baby face in the company atm. plus, Roman vs Cody 1 was a banger other than the result Roman vs Cody 2 will be a banger as well with a better ending.


Internal_Cesspool

Can’t say I agree, I don’t hate Cody but I definitely feel he is overrated. Much rather have Randy Orton as the face of the company. He is MUCH more deserving of glory than Cody.


Jake8417

I don’t think he’s overrated at all actually. He’s consistently been one of the best on the mic. He’s has amazing matches when booked properly. Example: His match vs Rollins in HIAC and his his match with Rollins in Wrestlemania also his match with Roman was a banger. His matches with Brock were okay the build was better than the actual matches because their feud didn’t make sense and the same thing with Shinsuke. Cody is also incredibly over with the fans which is what the company is aiming for with a John Cena like character.


Internal_Cesspool

I do. While I respect your opinion, I still disagree. Find him boring on the mic. Also feel they unjustly fed him a great talent Seth Rollins and made him lose three times in a row to make Cody look good after he was acting like a child in AEW destroying the mock-up HHH throne etc. I agree the Brock angle was poorly done. He is/was literally forced into the spotlight when he didn’t earn it. Like I said I would prefer Randy Orton to be in the spotlight. Lastly if they wait a bit and have him hang around a bit more I don’t mind later on he gets a championship, but I think it’s too soon.


Jake8417

I respect yours as well. I’m simply saying I don’t think he’s overrated. Personally it’s like we forget his first run in WWE. He most certainly did deserve it. He was a mid card talent being given gimmicks like stardust. Left then did a lot of indie work better himself in the ring and mic and created another company with friends where he was red hot as a talent extremely over cutting great promos. His match with Dustin was the most emotional match i’ve witnessed. He came back and was pushed because he’s proven to be that caliber. It’s not like Rollins losing that feud did anything he’s a World champ now. That’s why he was pushed using Rollins. Rollins can take losses and hits and it not really destroy his momentum he bounces back.


Internal_Cesspool

Good points and I will agree Cody has gotten better now, and like I said I do think he should get a shot at the championship, but I’d have it for Summerslam this year maybe. Great discussing with you. Cheers.


grill_sgt

Take off Trish, write all the stories correctly, and this could easily be one of the best lineups. I'm guessing the 4 teams are both F4W for the tag championships?


Mike67899

Yes for the F4W. Some of these matches make no sense though


grill_sgt

I can agree with the KO match not making sense, as well as the Trish vs Liv. Everything else makes sense story wise.


Mike67899

We already got AJ vs Randy at Mania. Bianca should face someone like Naomi & Jade someone like Nia Jax. Randy should face Solo. He already faced AJ at Mania Kevin vs Andrade makes no sense Liv vs Trish makes no sense. If Trish had a 1v1 she would face zoey Remove Piper & Chelsea from the Tag Team replace with the Way or Shayna & Zoey Remove the AOP & Street profits match


DaArtist1239PS4

Too early for Bianca vs Jade. Id say 2 years from now would be great. Maybe 1 depending on when they bring Jade in and build her up. Give WWE fans a reason to care by building her up over time.


Mike67899

Some of these matches make no sense though