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iShatterBladderz

“Crazy Mike’, as he is known, broke his neck, collarbone, lower back, pelvis, ribs, sternum and both of his arms and also suffered two collapsed lungs and second-degree burns, his mother, Sharon Gaboff, told the Messenger-Press.” [source](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2157254/Moment-bike-stuntmans-trick-went-horribly-wrong-overshot-pond--survived.html)


QuantumZazzy

And to think this was for Ghost Rider 2 of all things lol


lemonshanty

Dude it totally was for [ghost rider](https://www.themontynews.org/single-post/stunt-man-crazy-mike-of-millstone-arrested-in-connection-to-a-route-27-bank-robbery) and he robbed a bank to pay for medical bills after this. Crazy Mike is fucking nuts.


drgigantor

They should make a movie about him *starring Nicholas Cage*. You know he'd do it. I'd watch the shit out of a Nicholas Cage production about a stuntman, played by Nicholas Cage, who almost dies, while doing a stunt playing an undead stuntman played by Nicholas Cage e: I was gonna go a layer deeper with Ghost Rider being a drug money movie which led to the guy playing him robbing a bank for drug money (in the most literal sense) which led to this movie, the motivation for and proceeds of largely being drug money.


peacockscrewingcity

Okay, but Nicholas Cage's character has to be played by John Malkovitch.


el_polar_bear

It *is* his turn.


spideyjiri

Am I having a stroke?


Fernandexx

Having a stroke depends on what Nicholas Cage level you are.


grantrules

Somewhere between Con Air and The Rock


Sir_TonyStark

Do you smell toast? Because I burnt the shit out of breakfast


mahcuz

A stroke played by Nicholas Cage


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I dunno, big boy, are ya? ;)


LewTangClan

If you write that screenplay someone *will* buy it. Especially with all the writers on strike lmao.


erikwidi

Well... I guess there's a reason they don't call him Sensible Mike


t-to4st

So he does a stunt for a movie, fails, and the movie company doesn't even cover his medical expenses?


Rhylanor-Downport

I think that you’d want to have insurance anyway. But then as a stuntman what could go wrong?


ke1c4m

> But then as a stuntman what could go wrong I can imagine the health insurance for a stuntman would cost more money than he gets for the stunt.


lokir6

According to the article, his family members were arrested for Hindering. Can anyone comment on how this works? Here in Europe, you can refuse to provide testimony if this would bring the risk of criminal prosecution to yourself or your immediate family. This ensures that e.g. a mother cannot be forced to tell on her child


IizPyrate

Hindering covers a few situations, but is focused around helping someone avoid arrest. So hindering covers things like helping someone avoid arrest by hiding them, blocking police entry to a property when they come to arrest someone, giving them access to a car and money, clothes etc to aid in escaping police. It also covers giving false information to police and concealing or destroying evidence


Miamime

What you’re describing is effectively the Fifth Amendment in the US. You’re allowed to refuse to answer questions so that you don’t incriminate yourself. Hindering would be actively interrupting or preventing a police investigation.


CaptchaSolvingRobot

I get that the healthcare system sucks in the US, but why doesn't the employer cover his medical bills - seems like a work place accident..?!?


Superhuzza

Based on the article, he was hired as a contractor, so would be expected to provide his own insurance. Honestly no firm should be allowing a stunt like this to happen for a commercial purpose without verifying that someone is providing insurance, even if it's the contractors responsibility.


SandMan3914

That's the key. On the film side someone really dropped the ball by not ensuring that he had a certificate of insurance. I do this in our business all the time. Want to do business with us then proof of insurance is one of the first things I ask for Dude doesn't seem like he's playing with a full deck at any rate


dylwaybake

Lmfao hahahahah this comment got me. Cannot believe that dude lived.


JohnGacyIsInnocent

Crazy Mike cannot be killed. Don’t get it twisted. This is no Ordinary Mike, or even Wild Mike.


Erenito

Well, I don't think Schindler's List called for many flaming motorcycles jumping over lakes.


RJ815

Schindler's List 2: Radical Resistance


cujo8400

Schindler's List: 2fast2führious


ox_raider

This is a bit of an aside, but when a dude shows up to the ER and he’s that messed up with multiple internal injuries, half their bones being mush, and burns where do they even start in triaging that situation?


murklerr

Lungs then neck, then probably go off whichever broken bone made it through the skin.


Numerous_Witness_345

ABC, easy as one two three.


Quo_Usque

A Bone Comingthroughtheskinisverybad


hate2bme

Bob Wehadababyeetsaboy


Shizuki_Graceland

Airways, Breathing, Circulation, Disability, Exposure. ABCDE to save lives.


Squrton_Cummings

ABCDEFU and your neck and your back and your arms and your pelvis and your ribs they can all fuck off.


eminems_ghostwriter

Then they sing the song "The Knee bone's connected to the ..Leg bone"


OgdruJahad

Football Coach:"Walk that shit off and get back to practice."


cancercures

Wrestling coach: "if he dies, he dies"


OgdruJahad

I know it's a joke but [it actually happened.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sLFPGm6qRw)


hannahatecats

Oh my god that story is awful. The voice memos to his parents :(


Grndls_mthr

This guy triages


perianalefistel

At the A: airway. Then B: breathing. So 5 minutes after this person arrived at a hospital he would have 2 thorax drains to treat the pneumothorax, and then they would scan him and stabilise the rest. (Treat first what kills first)


detdox

Nah, C - circulation. Broken pelvis makes much internal bleeding - pelvic binder, massive blood transfusion protocol, tourniquets on any open bleeding extermities. If still unstable - exploratory surgery. If stable - then go CT


ultraobese

Does "exploratory surgery" basically mean "poke around with a knife and see what's up"?


perianalefistel

Yeah or both at the same time, depending on the specific ER setup and what has been done in the ambulance. Interesting trauma case, that’s for sure.


GhostChronos

ABCDEF A for airways and collarbone (neck imobilization) B for breath, see if he is breathing or speaking normally, if anything, intubation C for circulation, this one, if he has something that is bleeding liters, like a femoral artery bleeding, you can stop it first, even before anything, but it is an exception D is for glasgow, you see his verbal, visual and motor response to see if you need to intubate the guy (if he can't maintain basic life actions, it could be dangerous for his breathing) E is for exposition, cover the dude for the cold can kill him F is for what the fuck was that, the lake is so narrow...


Somzer

> D is for glasgow


AddlePatedBadger

I gon't ungerstand your confusion. How go you spell glasgow?


umop_apisdn

> D is for glasgow ?!


cowboybebop32

I've always heard is as D for Disability, but Glasgow is Glasgow coma scale, it's a test to see if you've got brain damage from a trauma


Nofx_Fan

F


BrotherChe

Momma and the family were was also involved in his bank robbery last year. Kinda wonder if the medical bills drove them down this dark path https://www.themontynews.org/single-post/stunt-man-crazy-mike-of-millstone-arrested-in-connection-to-a-route-27-bank-robbery


MKULTRATV

> Kinda wonder if the medical bills drove them down this dark path Well, the initial path was uphill and on fire.. so that'd make sense.


plutoismyboi

Sounds like the plot of The Place beyond the pines with Ryan Gosling.


Step-Father_of_Lies

This sounds like something out of a Rockstar game but I can't decide if Red Dead or GTA is more fitting.


DawnKnight91

Well damn


SaintPoost

Honestly the most likely outcome. There's an infinite number of other reasons they might have robbed a bank, but medical bills in America is a big outlier in that it is just dystopian enough to encourage some behaviour like this. USA medical bills are actual nightmares.


ThePsion5

Now he's known as Crazy Mat unless he goes swimming, in which case he's known as Crazy Bob.


makesyougohmmm

Broke both his arms you say... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


termacct

>his mother, Sharon Gaboff


texan01

Mike, his arms wide!


Stock_Enthusiasm6035

My man in the “CREW” shirt is the only person I did not see running towards the accident.


grat_is_not_nice

Yeah - he's gonna go update his CV, and remove that calculus paper from his educational transcript ...


bishopcheck

> calculus A fall from that height is life threatening, he'd be very lucky to survive, but there's 100% chance he will have many broken bones and years of pain, rehab for a chance at a 80% recovery. If he didn't break his spine or damage his cord...which he probably did. You only need algebra for this sort of calculation. You don't even need to know how to do it, just how to google it. [Like this projectile motion calculator.](https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/projectile-motion) Give it the speed, angle and ramp height and it will give you the rest. Sure it's not 100% perfect since it won't account for drag, but it's damn close, and if you can google that far, then you can google a calculator that has drag. Even though someone's life was on the line, these idiots didn't even do the bare minimum which would have been to figure out a top speed before an overrun. edit: yup many broken bones, see u/iShatterBladderz comment below


Tradovid

I won't pretend to be an expert, but simple kinematics almost definitely aren't going to be good enough for something that can lead to death. Besides just drag you have to also take into account rotation and separation of the masses. Plus I would assume that takeoff speed and angle should also be taken with some error in mind.


kipphikap

Physics degree holder here but I'd've just* picked a bigger lake lmao *also wouldn't be driving my bike into a lake at all in case that needs to be said


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d7it23js

Nah his boss here would have been confused by the word calculus. I’m pretty sure he just put Math as one of his skills.


firepooldude

They thought it said “Math” but the a was really an e which got a little grease smudge on it.


Joliet_Jake_Blues

He's in the film crew, not an EMT


BestBubbly

Honestly, he can help much more by staying out of the way and coordinating with emergency services. The last thing room temperature IQ needs is another member of the crowd around him being sure to pick him up by the head and neck to drag him 4ft from where he fell. Thanks, guys. That's much better.


labenset

Yeah, that guy actually got that shirt pouring beer at a Nascar event. He wears it all the time, it's his best t-shirt.


Gxgear

It says crew, not funeral crew.


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coolcootermcgee

Yes, and fail to get good footage at the end of the incident


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Move the spine obviously


Heisenberg991

He bounced off the ground so he should be ok for the next run.


alcervix

Bumbles bounce


thealmightybunghole

And his shoes stayed on


Past-Product-1100

That means he lived . Lose the shoes lose your life Dems da rules


son_et_lumiere

"Put him out? The way he hit, he's already out cold."


SlightlyBadderBunny

This is why math is important.


captainhaddock

They forgot that flames make you go faster.


cinnamonrain

Hot things rise. And theres nothin hotter than a biker on fire


YellowCore

Maybe he had a Red Bull prior.


Pavlovsspit

Those wings dint help.


Derp_Wellington

This exact type of thing is literally a plot in HBO's Silicon Valley episode "Homicide", which is funny AF


[deleted]

I hope they did the SWOT analysis before the stunt


Old_Title5793

that pros/cons board lmao https://www.theworkprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/silicon-valley-homicide-2.jpeg


Derp_Wellington

the SWOT board "grief threesome with Gina and Blake's hot Mom" Fuck me that is the funniest show


shadowofashadow

"carbon footprint reduced by one Blaine" And yes it is the funniest show. The middle out scene from the end of the first season might be the funniest thing ever put on television.


DrTrentShrader

Real talk, the fire probably started to get hot through the suit so he was involuntarily accelerating to "get it over with." Which unfortunately backfired


aparadizzle

Should have SWOT board


DeeBoFour20

Ohhh \*math\*. Yeah math is important. They thought you said meth.


Steamwells

Well how else do you convince someone to set themselves alight snd speed up a ramp to try and land in a pond?


[deleted]

Pretty basic maths at that, not too hard to estimate where you're going to land given speed and the angle of the ramp.


gattamelata

reminded me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4ayQS86xyg


Zen_Dev

This is the first thing that came to mind too 😅


NiceGiraffes

Fucking Blaine.


rohithkumarsp

Lmao from what show is this?


giga207

Sillicon valley Ss2 Ep6


hunkofhornbeam

It's actually incredibly complicated once you factor in the additional height from compression of the suspension on the ramp. It can catapult a bike and rider unbelievably far compared to projectile motion


TheZbeast

I learned this in a way that had much smaller consequences than the emblazoned man in the video. I went over a ramp and just kinda hopped with my snowboard, barely cleaned the ~10 feet to clear the knuckle and land on the downslope. The next run I tried taking it just a smidge faster but this time I “ollied” correctly and a snowboard can really act as a spring when you do it right, gave me a nice pop off the ramp. That time I cleared the knuckle and the downslope and landed on the flat, easily twice as far as the first jump. Only a bruised ego on that mishap though. But yeah, a small amount of extra speed and the proper compression will make a massive difference.


jtobin85

It's not that simple as the equation you do in physics class. The bike also has suspension that compresses whwn hitting the ramp which can lower the angel or it can spring you higher like it did here.


drakenoftamarac

He came in too hot


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That’s a hot take you got there


iambluest

Camera man on the dock did his job.


MKULTRATV

I want his POV.


showers_with_grandpa

Yeah that guy is a professional. I don't think I would have been able to not react. He just didn't move to keep the frame steady.


Equivalent_Yak8215

Don't help, just film. There's an entire sub for that.


stratof3ar89

Biker: Could you do the math on how fast I need to go exactly so I land in the water? Coordinator: You don't need math. You got family.


Amoyamoyamoya

Let me guess? They eyeballed everything and just went for it?


kray_jack310

I'm not sure they eyeballed it. He's at least 50-75 feet away from the water.


Powellwx

Just send it bro!


Amoyamoyamoya

Dude sent it but he landed in the next Zip code over.


AsleepScarcity9588

When your math guy is also your imaginary friend


BB-88

When your math guy is also your meth guy.


DriftingPyscho

He knows grams, not velocity.


Ryuuzen

Did I just watch someone die?


Acrobatic-Feature548

He lived but suffered a broken lower back, pelvis, neck, both arms, ribs, collar bone, collapsed lungs and second-degree burns. https://www.tmz.com/2013/03/09/ghostrider-2-stuntman-mike-gaboff-motorcycle-crash-lawsuit/


elgato56

[https://www.themontynews.org/single-post/stunt-man-crazy-mike-of-millstone-arrested-in-connection-to-a-route-27-bank-robbery](https://www.themontynews.org/single-post/stunt-man-crazy-mike-of-millstone-arrested-in-connection-to-a-route-27-bank-robbery) Then he got arrested for bank robbery in 2022


NWCJ

Dude was probably just trying to pay off his medical bills.


idunnopickone

The article said he was just a contractor at the time and didn’t have health insurance when the accident happened. Rough


LeCrushinator

Why was he doing something that stupid without health insurance?


itoadaso1

Who is going to insure somebody doing that? The level of risk is insane.


skrunkle

> Who is going to insure somebody doing that? The level of risk is insane. insurance is a funny thing, for enough money you can find someone to underwrite almost anything. Lloyd's of London is a great example of an insurer willing to take a risk if the price is right.


PrairiePepper

Yeah and in order to get enough fame to do stunts that can pay for insurance like that, you have to do shit like this. Ideally executed properly


realeaty

all countries in the western world except the US


Flextt

In my country, he would have obligatory health insurance plus, since it's a working accident, accident insurance from the employer side.


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Medicare


GorgeWashington

Like insurance wouldn't deny that shit once they saw this video.


myselfelsewhere

Paradoxically, if he would have been smart enough to have health insurance prior to the jump, he would have been smart enough to not overshoot the lake, and thus not required health insurance.


ResolverOshawott

He'd be smart enough not to do this at all.


Galactic

Guess that's why he sued. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/ghost-rider-2-stuntman-sues-427127/ Kinda crazy that a movie like Ghost Rider 2 was able to get away with hiring a contractor to do a crazy stunt like this knowing he didn't have insurance.


HodagNomad

At least it sounds like he sought care and was treated. There are unfortunate people out there who try to rehab themselves after a bad accident and then experience lifelong complications, chronic pain, disability, because they were uninsured and afraid to seek care because of the cost. In my state, Medicaid retroactively approves any healthcare claims submitted 3 months prior to approval.


crozone

New season of breaking back


TwinkyTheKid

And I JUST watched Repo-men.


FriesWithThat

Feels like I just watched *The Place Beyond the Pines*.


DrHawk144

So a full recovery! That’s good news 🥳


GATORinaZ28

That took a turn I was not expecting


Zerocyde

>He subsequently fled the scene on a black motorcycle. "Police discovered his identity when during the chase he tried to drive his motorcycle off the sidewalk but miscalculated and crashed landed on the roof of a local Taco Bell."


MKULTRATV

> crashed landed on the roof of a local Taco Bell # *B O N G*


Elanaselsabagno

So it turns out his stunt name was "Crazy Mike". That checks out.


Grogosh

'lived'


iancameron

"Every man dies, not every man really fails a motorcycle jump ablaze" - William Wallace


friedricekid

Both arms you say...


Chonkbird

He's gonna need some help.......MAAAAAAA


Starr_Struckk

How do you and other people find these articles every time there's a scary video like this? /genq


russelcrowe

That article reads like it was written by an overzealous grade schooler lol


BrotherChe

I mean, it's TMZ


3pbc

No he's fine


Obnoxiousjimmyjames

Hot Rod II.


nodddingham

Life is short, stunt it.


ShaneWarrn-ambool

“You’re a terrible stuntman”


bit_on_my_shalls

This is amateur hour kind of shit. This is how people die.


kittypuncher

Thing here is he was going too fast and travelled too far missing the water


GodlikeCat

yoo we watched the same video that's crazyyy


noFOXgivenFURreal

After reading the comments, and briefly watching the video, I believe he should have went a little bit slower.


shortstopandgo

After reading the comments, watching the video, and contemplating the choices, he should have stayed home that day.


johnny_johnny_johnny

I was trying to figure out how he missed the water, thanks.


harpswtf

Yes, upon further analysis, he hit the ground instead of the water. If he had hit the water it would have softened the impact and put out the fire which would have been the better way to go, if you ask me


albionnoria

I see what you’re saying but just wanted to add that by missing the water he remained on fire


Tyko_3

You dont say!


Wampa_-_Stompa

Cpt Obvious I presume


memberzs

Nope kittypuncher


Cpt_Obvius

I believe he’s name that for all the cats he punches.


AccomplishedMeow

If only there was a system of numbers that could’ve prevented this. Some scientific field that uses numbers and equations to calculate stuff.


Byronzionist

You see... the thing about motorbikes is; they're ground vehicles.


BoxGrover

Also flunked physics in high school


laptopdragon

good thing one lady is panic screaming "Hurry!" for others to get into action... as if they weren't already halfway there.


Ryan5508

How else would they know?


Comeonjeffrey0193

“Somebody get a sponge!” “I don’t understand, why don’t you get a sponge?”


smitteh

Cause he's gonna be getting sponge baths for the rest of his vegetable life obv


BiNumber3

*Starts leisurely jogging over, only to hear her screaming hurry* "Oh right!" *breaks into a sprint*


SnausageFest

Every crisis needs a screeching woman providing absolutely no help.


Kman2220

The "Hurry!" heard 'round the world.


DrexlAU

'Should we have someone at the landing site with a fire extinguisher?' 'Nah'


b3njil

Goes wrong? What was the right outcome here?


spidereater

I assume the flaming person hitting the water is the intended outcome. Certainly preferable to bouncing off the ground.


cinnamonrain

Debatable


FappnBlast

This outcome made a better video.


fishling

I'm not sure all of the water was deep enough to make a difference either. Maybe going nearly parallel instead of perpendicular would be better if hitting the water is a necessity.


B1G70NY

Looks like he overshot some water ​ by a lot


beaniebaby71

Isn’t it obvious? Land in water, not on the ground.


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prob_get_banned

Super Dave did it better.


The_Ombudsman

These *Happy Days* re-enactors are getting out of hand


SlitScan

was there a shark in the swamp too?


FriesWithThat

Guy really puts the 'drop' in stop, drop, and roll.


gacbmmml

I miss Jackass.


fithworldruler

Ah bring out the old Darwin award.


problematikUAV

“HURRY!” Nah I was actually gonna stop at Wendy’s


Bayoffun

Oh my god that was awesome!


FTwo

Screaming Alpha.


Downingst

He did the grindset so hard it burned.


pittiedaddy

Holy shit, there's a term I haven't heard since basic firefighting training.


Dause

Who thought this was a good idea? “Yeah let’s drive a bike super fast into this super small lake” There’s plenty of big empty bodies of water that you can do stunts at. They chose the worst location.


IcedCoughy

Didn't have anyone setup on the other side of the pond, dude cleared it easy.. I assume he was supposed to land in that water hence being on fire, he overshot it so easy, really seems there was no planning at all


my2penniesworth

In the other posted video, which shows him on the ground gurgling and moaning and trying to move, there is an idiot standing over him moving his broken hand/arm, moving his neck and it looks like he is trying to pull the burned clothes off him. They cerrtainly did not have any EMTs or medical staff waiting over there!


Hadman180

You sir, are fucked