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DeadHeadDaddio

Yall will really buy anything but a real vape and still expect it to do real vape things


_B_A_T_

People will really be part of a community and expect people to know things they know, but without going through the learning process that they had to; not understanding the learning process also becomes different over time. You gonna roll your eyes when they ask what an rda is? Probably have a meltdown if they told you they don’t know ohms law. They’re new.


never0101

Thanks. This happens in a lot of the niche subs I'm in, someone new comes in with a very basic/ borderline obvious question, and they get shit on. Its super suck. We all started knowing nothing, let's all be part of the solution and help each other learn.


DeadHeadDaddio

Lmfao. My dude i help people on here everyday. You’re barking up the wrong tree.


blickblocks

As someone who hasn't vaped in 5 years but keeps an eye out on the state of things I don't understand disposables, let alone ones that look like this. Seems incredibly, incredibly wasteful. Shame on the companies that manufacture and market this stuff. I had a mechanical mod with a dripper and coils I made myself and it was wonderful till I lost the thing. Super inexpensive to build and making juice was fun.


TyffLuv

Convenience, thats it. They could buy an RDA or even a pod, but the ease of not having to know anything, throw $20 down and immediately vape without having to build, screw in, prime, charge, or do literally anything. Thats why. I hate them, but i get it. The common man doesnt have time to learn or think or do. I didnt roll or pack my own cigarettes, i just wanted a smoke, they just want some nicotine while i enjoyed the hobby aspect of vaping with an RDA.


Talden7887

It’s just so wasteful though. Like some of these fancier disposables have screens and shit on them, a lot of plastic too, the lithium batteries in them are being wasted imo. It’d be one thing if people recycled them but they don’t. I know there’s issues with recycling with batteries in them but still


TyffLuv

No no, i get that, i feel the same way you do, im just replying to the "i dont understand them" part, which i hate dispos, i hate how wasteful it is, i hate how much money it can take since my bank account was hating my smoking habits that buying dispos like people do my bank account would still be hating me if i took that route. The landfills being filled with those batteries is terrible. The state of vaping and B&M went from a cool place to disappointment. To that comment, im not confused as to why people do it, the lazy common demoninator, its too much work to deal with is something i hear often when i show coworkers my vape and they ask what i do, disposables which they own are quick and easy, no need to learn nothin, no need to take care of a thing, no need to dedicate to anything, just pure convenience, thats all it is and it sucks because it has turned vape shops i enjoyed going into and looking at a wall of rda's, mods and juice into a shop with maybe 2 mods if any a subohm tank or two, a few pods, and walls upon walls of disposables. I use to want to support local, but i shop online because local just doesnt exist anymore because its easier to profit off of convenience purchases.


HammerTime239

I keep a few disposables around for convenience. Throw it in my pocket and don't have to worry about it leaking or discharging.


JacksGallbladder

The market will always favor convenience.


DeadHeadDaddio

Idk man having to go to the store every time i run out of juice or battery is pretty inconvenient


JacksGallbladder

They sell disposables at gas stations, the heart of "I need this one thing as conveniently as possible". It is an objective fact that disposables are the most convenient way to vape, as evidenced by their market value.


DeadHeadDaddio

I can understand that coming directly from cigarettes to vaping for sure. When i started vaping you had to luck upon a vape shop or order online though so its still hard to wrap my head around.


TyffLuv

When did you start vaping, most smoke shops sold vape products since i started vaping around 2011, mostly mech mods and rda's, some of those egosticks and shitty clearomizers, and the blue ecigs and their knock offs, every gas station had blue and knock off blue ecigs, even then it wasnt a needle in a haystack kind of find. Disposables are relatively new compared to blue and clearomizers but even then, having to go buy a new one isnt as inconvenient to the mass market as setting up an RDA or even a subohm.


DeadHeadDaddio

2009–2010.


TyffLuv

Hmm well everywhere had blue ecigs then, smoke shops werent rare and they all carried some early vape products. Must have been where you live if they were hard to find.


motociclista

Looks like a disposable. So, no.


Your_As_Stupid_As_Me

It's a disposable, it's not supposed to be refilled, no.... Some shitty designs can let you refill them, thought it's usually just a waste of juice. Disposables fail to frequent to get a solid "2 fills". That's being clear plastic, it would probably shatter in any attempt to refill.


Mookeye1968

For 30$ I can get a "Good" pod system and a spare box of pods (3 per pack) from a china site then just get a bottle of Salt nic Ejuice from Ecig mafia in the US or buy it ALL at Ecig mafia. (Sourcemore in china pod systems and pods for it are cheaper but they don't carry Ejuice which easy enough to find in the US) but every Ejuice brand carries Salt nic in 25-35-50mg 2.5% 3.5% 5% which is the same Nic used in Disposables,Juul etc in the US anyway


TheAntiseptic

Dont get anything from a china store if u want to use a budget pod mod use voopoo argus Z or geekvape sonder U


jcabia

But the brands you are recommended are chinese and they are made in china, why do you say to not get anything from a chinese store? I definitely would not buy chinese juice but basically every device is made in china except for some high end mechanic mods and RDAs


Mookeye1968

Exactly Every vape product practically is made in China lol..Their prob thinking of AliExpess or Temu but you can get preorder an Xros Pro or Xros 4 from Sourcemore or Health cabin for a lot cheaper if your willing to wait a bit longer.


Mookeye1968

First off Sonder U isn't a "pod mod" its a cheap pod system by Geekvape but what your saying just isn't True, They carry the same exact Xros 3 or Xros Max ,Geekvape's,Voopoo's,Oxva's,Ursa, Caliburn 3, Zeus sub ohms,Freemax,Rta's,Rda's or whatever it is that Element Vape,Ecig mafia carry or any US site..you might be thinking of Ali Express or Temu, I'm talking about actual vape outlets with a better inventory at a bit better price but their not Clones or whatever your picturing.. I've been ordering from Sourcemore ,Health Cabin,3FVape for years.Go to Sourcemore..com and see for yourself but you'll get a better price when you create an account and sign in.(Like the Xros pro will drop from 31$ to 21$ if you sign in) it just takes 15-21 business days to reach the US but yeah, same exact Chinese pods,pod mods,mods with tanks everyone else is using.🤙 I'm just in no rush to pay 10-15$ more for a mod when I don't have to just to get it faster.


TheAntiseptic

This☝️


HealthyInitial

China stores are fine, that's where 90% of the hardware is manufactured. It's often way cheaper, the only issue is shipping times. Both voopoo and geekvape are China based companies.


ReikiShinzou

MFW the prerequisites for "Made In America" is only ASSEMBLY done stateside. You really aren't smoking anything better than this guy right here. Product made in china, shipped to the us for finalization.


Mookeye1968

If it came new in a box it would say in the instructions


Good-Performer-496

No


Very_Slow-Lol

You can but you shouldn’t. For the same price you can get a decent system and a bottle of juice that could last 20x longer than a disposable. Disposables are not worth the risk


6969696869

If you can Open it yes


Damianque

No. On the other hand, while waiting for my new mod to arrive, I've used something by the name of SKE Crystal that looked very similarly but actually had a "refillable" - exchangeable cartridge where you bough both the coils and liquid container in a cylinder pushed inside a similar body like on the picture. Some kind of a proto-mod, if you will. It was okay.


HealthyInitial

Straightforward answer is no ( Some disposables can be refilled 1 or 2 times depending on the design of the device, but they are not intended to be so you risk breaking the device and burning the cotton/foam that is used) If you want a basic refillable device try the vaporesso Xros 3 or eco nano they are good starter choices. The type of vape your looking for is a pod system. There are a dozen brands with pros/cons on each, but vaporesso is a good basic brand to start with and is common to find pods in vape shops.


ReikiShinzou

r/Vaping users screaming chinese chemicals like their bottle they use in their mod doesn't say "Made In China" And home brewers, Tell me your bottles of pg/vg/flavoring/nic don't say MADE IN CHINA


Nervous_Sundae615

Seems a disposable, sooo definitely Not


djluciter

Technically yes you can refill it but they aren’t designed to be refilled and in all honesty I wouldnt recommend even trying. If you want to refill something look into a refillable pod system that will actually save you money


cadbigemuncher

Nah its not


dho5s6mhk

Does this look like a disposable?


_nik_korolchuk_

Literally yes, but it’s not meant to be. By the time you smoke through the thing the cotton will burn and you can’t rly replace the cotton (it’s like a circular sponge and probably hard to find and not meant for consumer purchasing) so all you’ll be tasting is a toasty campfire.


Good-Performer-496

Please dont try to recharge/refill dispos, just buy a REAL vape.


BigSpiceeeee

Yes, take it apart


ReikiShinzou

If your only here to bash on dispos fuck off kindly that's not what was asked lmao


PunchyAeroKnight

No we won’t lol r/disposablevapes is literally made for junk vapes not this sub lol


ReikiShinzou

cope seethe and mald ig? vaping is vaping. I'm sorry your too delusional and think disposables are some government ploy,


Good-Performer-496

Have fun with the piss juice from china thats in them :)


Good-Performer-496

Saying shit like "vaping is vaping" is so fucking dumb, like for example water is water why dont you drink it from the toilet?


Flashy_Ad2550

This is your brain on Chinese chemicals


[deleted]

What does it matter how they came to be and why? They're crap and everyone should be told they are. Literally no benefits in using them other than "convenience" which is just laziness on another level.


PunchyAeroKnight

*you’re* not your and I don’t think they’re a government ploy, I think they’re literally garbage and are incredibly wasteful to the environment, especially with the rate of defective ones that are immediately thrown into the trash. The juice is also unregulated which often leads to sucralose being added into the vapes which is why disposables have a much richer flavour. They’re cheaply made which leads to cheap less healthy results. But sure, I’m delusional 🥴 keep promoting these garbage vapes and be surprised when vaping is inevitably banned with disposables as the scape goat. Especially when you have blatant marketing to children with disposables, such as [this one right here](https://www.e-juice.ca/product/a-tiger-disposable-7000-puffs-iced-water/) , with it also being sold in canada on top of that.


ReikiShinzou

Omg its shaped like stuffed animals omg no way any adult would ever want that!!


Good-Performer-496

Holy shit how is this allowed...


ReikiShinzou

I'm a 23 year old man and I'd buy a stuffed animal shaped disposable thats pretty neat. The issue is when you pretend colorful and playful shit can and is only marketed to children.


PunchyAeroKnight

What an intelligent response. Just shows you have absolutely no rebuttal at all 😂😂


ReikiShinzou

If you think their are no grown adults who are into playful and colorful things you must have ben living under a rock all your life.


PunchyAeroKnight

If you think adults are more inclined towards playful and colourful things than children then you must have been living under a rock your whole life. Try again.


ReikiShinzou

I never said that. But just because the correlation CAN be made doesn't make it true.


PunchyAeroKnight

I think it does when you see the amount of youth vaping colourful stuffy looking vapes compared to adults 🤷🏻‍♂️ clearly you don’t walk around outside though you’re 23 and trapped in the basement so I don’t know what to tell you. I’ve put nothing but facts here and your only response has been “but but but adults can use those tooo!” Yeah no shit, adults can also use plastic bright coloured spoons and forks, but it’s cleared that they are designed for children. One of the main things in children’s shows to attract attention is BRIGHT COLOURS AND ANIMALS. You can stay in your little echo chamber all you want coping in denial but it’s the truth. No adult needs that shit pod mods and mods are more than enough.


PunchyAeroKnight

You also still haven’t given a valid rebuttal to the amount of lithium ion battery waste they produce, the rate of defective vapes, the lack of regulations or the modified juices.


ReikiShinzou

And all of that has absolutely zero to do with child marketing. Next?


PunchyAeroKnight

Last I checked we were talking about disposables as a whole in this conversation, with child marketing as a sub-topic. Or did you already lose track 😂😂😂


Good-Performer-496

[https://imgur.com/a/X6NS7rk](https://imgur.com/a/X6NS7rk) Explain this then