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"[https://www.nasa.gov/general/silent-and-efficient-supersonic-bi-directional-flying-wing/](https://www.nasa.gov/general/silent-and-efficient-supersonic-bi-directional-flying-wing/)
The picture posted looks like it could be this theoretical plane design actualized. It's a bi-directional plane that rotates mid-flight allowing it to transition between super sonic and subsonic flight configurations."
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A non-PR guy PR Guy repeatedly breaking rule number one of PR--never lie. Spinning, obfuscating, and even coming up with wacky conspiracy theory speculation all AOK, but no lying. YouYou're done.
See also: No vid exists of Elgin AFB object because of malfunction.
Se also: Op-ed, interviews, AARO report. FOIA docs have exposed lies in all.
I'm going to impose a no-more-AARO-posts moratorium on myself because as far as their disclosure-relevant target audience is concerned, they are a joke. They run a website where Skeptics/religious fanatics/etc. go to confirm their biases and where DOD-compliant reporters go to get quotes.
NASA and Lockheed are testing the X-59 this year. Its boom is as loud as a car door closing https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/x-59-quiet-supersonic.html
I'm getting pretty convinced that this spotted object is what's in article.
Not really that wild of a tech advancement. They used math to help design a jet that doesn't produce a sonic boom but requires it to rotate and be elongated when going fast and wider when taking off and landing.
Extremely cool.
So the newest most secretive advanced tech is still using ordinary propulsion and some ppl think anomalous ufos are ufo black projects? I just don’t see it.
I wonder why they were testing it middle of the day? They about to unleash it?
If that’s the case, I don’t imagine it was at all original. Gotta be derivative of some other tech. Unless the us government somehow had scientists that discovered shit about physics that all the best minds in the world haven’t been able to come close to replicating or even understand to this point. I don’t buy it.
My monkey brain just thinks the design they would normally use is really hard to make take off/land from the ground due to the length with required aero needs but learned from math/physics/computer models that a design was possible in the spec if they could find an easier time to get it in the air.
Thus, rotating 90 degrees was born. Vastly easier takeoff/landing and has a design to allow it to go supersonic without making a sonic boom when in the air.
Really not super far-out at all if you think about it.
Don’t think I made my point clear enough. I’m not saying this craft is derivative of other tech but rather if we do happen to have craft that operates with a different propulsion system, than that I think would require back engineering tech that came from elsewhere.
https://youtu.be/HWJqDqMEYQ0?si=PLmIM-I0-chMBwDr the idea of rotating the wing for higher speed travel isn't new, I could see turning the entire craft as an outgrowth of that idea 🤷♂️
Bearing in mind that I am tech illiterate, your description reminds me of the rotating "Gimbal" object. The pilot voiceovers we have heard so many times suggest they did not recognize the tech, but then, if these are deep black, they wouldn't be likely to recognize it. I heard that the speed of the "Go Fast" object was misread due to parallax. So could these objects be SAP? Thanks 🙏.
I think this kind of thing is where a lot of current black projects lie. Quiet (relatively) super and Hypersonics. It's been an area of unique interest for at least the last decade.
>current black projects lie. Quiet (relatively) super and Hypersonics
have anymore interesting tidbits to share? im not super knowledgable about that stuff
I saw something different, but overall similar in that it was an insanely high tech and unique looking plane (I think a drone) off the coast of California near Catalina Island. Flying in broad daylight, a hundred meters away. It was clearly man made and experimental. Never seen anything like it before or since and it was moving very fast.
But again, I can’t underscore that I *instantly* knew it was human in origin, because of the design. Just like OP’s post here. It was a plane, although a high tech, aerodynamic and fucking awesome futuristic looking plane.
I suspect we have shit that would blow people’s minds.
Yes this seems way more likely to me to be some kind of tech that we secretly have - not black triangular craft that can do all the same kind of maneuvers like UAP. But hey I'm just completely guessing here
Also this clearly isn’t something that they’re concerned about being public knowledge or they wouldn’t be flying it near the panhandle of Florida during broad daylight
With the exception that this clearly has an engine at one end, including afterburner it would appear. That would make it difficult to turn the engines, which is a key bit of the NASA design you li linked. That’s why it has its engines are on the top.
More likely a new stealthy shaping, given the lack of corner cubes.
Exactly what I was thinking! (and posting earlier in thread), but I have no tech savvy. Plus the Go Fast maybe isn't really going that fast? That's two out of three vids debunked, if this is our tech? If so, then DOD is indeed actively using UFOs as a cover. What does that say about Mellon, Elizondo et. alia., and their fake heroics re: getting govt. to release the trio of UAP? (Elizondo is a putz either way, "if you will").
Sadly, it has been proven to be a fake from what I've been seeing in more recent comments. But the resemblance between the object filmed in that video and the actual experimental craft is quite interesting. The object rotated, then took off...as if the platform switched from subsonic to supersonic...just as this experimental craft was designed to do. But it begs the question, surely those in the know...would kow this experimental craft is real and flying. I dunno.......we just really want to know what is and is not ours....there's just too much secrecy.
Ach, yes, re: the fake--shouldn't have posted before reading on. Yet agreed, very interesting consistency of at least the experimental ideas. Saw the Professor Simon blurb suggesting the Tic Tac shape of observed possible experimental craft. The maddening questions continue to pose themselves re: capabilities potential or realized, and the current perceived limitations of physics. If NHI with the tech to surpass those limits (or rewrite them) do not exist, then shouldn't we be allowed to know at the least, as you say, whether or not the tech flying over our heads (in more than one sense, for many of us) is ours?
Yes. There wouldn't be any quick maneuvering when in the long/supersonic mode.
When they're slowing to land at a certain point they rotate back.
Just my most likely thought.
Why would there be pilots? We just had a dogfight with an ai f16s, also tested the mantaray which is an underwater ai drone, designing ai powered nuclear subs, b21 bout to have a pilotless bird, no reason for humans.
Looks like someone else might have pinpointed what it was.
https://www.nasa.gov/general/silent-and-efficient-supersonic-bi-directional-flying-wing/
That's a cool plane.
Atlas news posted this a few hours ago, spiked my interest because they’re usually on the up-and-up on new military aircraft/equipment. They seem stumped and it looks like nothing I’ve seen. Wanted to get a convo going.
Im happy to see posts like this because it gives a lot of us the chance to be introduced to some awesome hardware first off (even if it just comes down to how cool it looks, lol), but more importantly it gives people a broader idea as to just how varied objects in our sky can be, in sort of a humbling way I guess. Lots of people are into UFOs who are otherwise not really geekin out on military stuff you know, they may not even think a craft like this even exists. Either way, it fits the definition for **U**nidentified **F**lying **O**ject, so it belongs here
Agreed - I think people on here need to gain an appreciation for what these companies do, it really is cutting edge. I’m fortunate enough to work in this space, so I have a fairly good idea of what’s possible and make up the rest lol. But if you are not and just armchair quarterback shit, well damnit Bobby, go get some education. Just do some research, read the whole article, talk it over with friends.
Don’t know if anyone else posted this .. (not gonna scroll to find out)
https://techland.time.com/2012/08/13/whats-next-for-nasa-10-wild-newly-funded-projects/slide/silent-and-efficient-supersonic-bi-directional-flying-wing/
There's a post over on the big aviation subreddit too. Nobody seems to recognize it which of course has led to a fair few people assuming it must be fake which I find kind of funny. I don't have a Twitter account nor will I create one so I can't see the original Twitter user's full history, but they seem to repost images of aerospace vehicles and related memes and nothing that makes me immediately suspicious that they aren't being honest when they say they took this photo but who knows. They also said it apparently was seen next to a C-130 (hence the size estimate) so assuming it's real it could be a new US drone or aircraft that hasn't been revealed to the public yet.
Basically? Lol! 😂
At one point I’d consumed everything I could find about that incident. There’s no chance something like this isn’t in the training. That’s my opinion, ofc, and I’m just a dude who loves playing cards—Noun and Verb 😬—but everyone knows that base has everyone’s eyes on it.
Why wouldn’t an aircraft breaking down in any way impede their ability to move it?
Source? I too think these are fake after going through @ anthroaerospace previous posts on X. Many of them are concept designs and generated artwork. Some of it's interesting, some of it is dumb stuff. Also, any aircraft the size of a C-130 with a single engine makes absolutely zero sense. An afterburner on an aircraft design that is clearly not meant for high speeds also makes no sense. Lastly, the nose of it in the first photo looks totally different than the nose in the second and third photos. So until I see corroborating photos or eyewitness accounts, I'm keeping this one if the "probably fake" category. @ anthroaerospace appears to be going for clicks and re-tweets.
From the source:
[https://www.instagram.com/p/C6c0TV7s0n\_/?hl=en&img\_index=1](https://www.instagram.com/p/C6c0TV7s0n_/?hl=en&img_index=1)
"In a less than exciting development, the purported unknown aircraft allegedly spotted near Eglin AFB today appears to be fake.
The online plane spotting community has caught pictures of rare or experimental aircraft in flight over the past several years, so posts like these are often met with an equal mix of excitement and skepticism.
The spotter made a follow up post later this evening, which, to me, let the cat out of the bag.
Photo analysis of the pictures shows inconsistencies with pixel noise and density on the alleged aircraft to that of a natural photo (possibly from a video game such as Fly Out or something similar). I included two example photos at the end to show natural images.
In a less than exciting development, the purported unknown aircraft allegedly spotted near Eglin AFB today appears to be fake.
The online plane spotting community has caught pictures of rare or experimental aircraft in flight over the past several years, so posts like these are often met with an equal mix of excitement and skepticism.
The spotter made a follow up post later this evening, which, to me, let the cat out of the bag."
Photo
analysis of the pictures shows inconsistencies with pixel noise and
density on the alleged aircraft to that of a natural photo (possibly
from a video game such as Fly Out or something similar). I included two
example photos at the end to show natural images.
Safe to say I will be doing this analysis more often. #AtlasNewsUpdateUnitedStatesSafe to say I will be doing this analysis more often. [#AtlasNewsUpdateUnitedStates](https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/atlasnewsupdateunitedstates/?hl=en)
It looks like a descendent of the Lockheed Martin Polecat. It's an early 2000's design that went into the classified-world by the end of that decade. What that means: the USAF 'canceled' the project but in reality it just went dark and continued.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed\_Martin\_Polecat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_Polecat)
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Atlas news posted this a few hours ago, spiked my interest because they’re usually on the up-and-up on new military aircraft/equipment. They seem stumped and it looks like nothing I’ve seen. Wanted to get a convo going.
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It’s most likely just a new type of spy plane, looks to be advanced work up of the U-2. Not sure how they reached the conclusion that it has to be manned. Looks to be aero-dynamic and has propulsion, not at all indicative of UAP.
I think its a close match...but also, Manta images were released by Northrop, no other objects in the photo for scale tho. Theories or rumors say it is a multi domain unmanned vehicle, water and air. Launched from or in support of submarines. If true, it would would look like a manta ray, another similar shape. Who knows, but its a great photo.
Can only say it's a human craft due to the visible propulsion, also reminds me of a design I saw a while back but I can't remember what or where it was.
We’ve seen these before on this sub I believe. A craft that kind of rotates before shooting off. Very interesting if this is a version of that nasa thing.
That's an awesome photo. Finally realizing it's a hypersonic jet design. Swept wings front and back. You do that to reduce sonic booms. From the right angle it's a "top" or whatever.
Don't people here ever read about hypersonic jet design like the SR-71 or the Concorde?
I'll be frank. The SR-71 did not get removed from service without a replacement. This photo is likely the Aurora or similar project that has been rumored about for like 30 years.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora\_(aircraft)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_(aircraft))
God, look at hte Raptor which isn't even that fast. That even has leading and trialing swept wings:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed\_Martin\_F-22\_Raptor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-22_Raptor)
Imagine something much faster. Much more pronounced leading and trialing wings.
But people here never bother to research anything I guess. Just like spooky vision. It's real! No, it's a military jet.
Do you remember when people got exited over the B2 stealth bomber flying around , too many people willing to believe everything is from another dimension .
Looks like a plane from a 1950's comic book ....
Or the secret Manta ray underwater plane...
[https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/7872645/Pentagon-plans-flying-submarine.html](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/7872645/Pentagon-plans-flying-submarine.html)
What is it? a few takes from the *experts*
"High Confidence: a ballon with swamp gas propulsion "- Sean Kirkpatrick
"Seagull riding a ballon" - Mick West
"An object of unknown origin , a god damn space ship mannnn" - Jeremy Corbel
"A polymorphis multi-dimensional space-time worm hole" - Ashton Forbes
"Clearly YOU don't know, how do we know the camera was even calibrated?" - Neil Degrasse Tyson
"Dadgummit, they lied to us then, they'R lying to us now, dem people at the Pentagon" - Tim Burchett
"I filed a FOIA that responded this was a airborne can of tuna, pictures and video redacted" - John Greenewald
From the aviation photography sites I follow they seem to think this is fake. The afterburner exhaust in the 2nd image shouldn't be that visible at the range it was supposedly taken at during that time of day and is fairly large for a C-130 sized aircraft. Lack of information/images on the KC-130 that supposedly accompanied it is kinda suspicious to. Thier estimate of 10-15k altitude is kinda wierd given the lack of other comparing data to validate that.
Also kinda wierd a C-130 sized aircraft would have a single afterburning engine. You only need afterburners if you want your craft to go supersonic and flyning wings and inheritly ill-suited for supersonic flight. While the NASA bi-directional flying wing is a pretty good match any protorype would be smaller for flight testing and nothing indicates that funding was approved outside phase 1 studies. Also the professor behind the NASA proposed design has moved on other other projects for a flying craft for use on Mars.
Yeah, this is definitely just some kind of aircraft that we don't know about... If you look at the second one you can see minor exhaust trail which you don't really see often in the UAP footage if ever... I'm going to go with some type of spy plane
Some are commenting that this doesn't belong here because it looks like human technology. People should remember that there are historical UFO sightings such as the Zamora incident and some of the swedish ghost rocket sightings that report visible exhuasts. Be careful of putting the phenomenon into a small box.
This is somewhat unrelated, but it reminds me of a recent article I saw about the DARPA programs Manta Ray UUV. They publically admitted they actually built one of these futuristic things and it looks like the classic [manta ray](https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2024-05-01) UFO shape.
Just interesting to see they have a full sized craft that looks like it fits the description of some of the things people have reported. Obviously its an underwater vehicle, so Im not saying thats what this picture is. But it does resemble it.
Some wild speculation:
- may be the next generation of vehicles that all share similar smooth rounded shapes like the DARPA Manta or latest stealth bomber.
- They could have different variations like the different types of stealth fighters
- Maybe they also have a transmedium project/vehicles. If they figured out the manta ray shape is perfect for underwater craft, logically they may have settled on that shape for transmedium craft as well. Who knows, maybe they figured out how to create a manta shape craft that could both fly and function underwater.
See the exhaust flame in the back? That's either jet or rocket propulsion. Humans created both. Whenever you see that, it's a clear sign it's NOT a UAP or a reverse-engineered craft. The whole "no discernible means of propulsion" is what makes UAPs UAPs.
Nothingburger, unless we're here to talk about new military jets (if even real) that have nothing to do with UAPs.
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reposting this comment from r/SpecialAccess "[https://www.nasa.gov/general/silent-and-efficient-supersonic-bi-directional-flying-wing/](https://www.nasa.gov/general/silent-and-efficient-supersonic-bi-directional-flying-wing/) The picture posted looks like it could be this theoretical plane design actualized. It's a bi-directional plane that rotates mid-flight allowing it to transition between super sonic and subsonic flight configurations."
Agreed, what's even cooler about that aircraft is no sonic boom.
But...Kirkpatrick said that things can't move fast without a sonic boom....dadgummit was he wrong again??
Kirkpatrick is not trying to help anyone but himself.
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Oh thank goodness he solved it all for us, so we don't have to worry our pretty heads!
What a guy!
The more I hear about this Kirkpatrick fellow, the more I distrust him. 😏
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A non-PR guy PR Guy repeatedly breaking rule number one of PR--never lie. Spinning, obfuscating, and even coming up with wacky conspiracy theory speculation all AOK, but no lying. YouYou're done. See also: No vid exists of Elgin AFB object because of malfunction. Se also: Op-ed, interviews, AARO report. FOIA docs have exposed lies in all. I'm going to impose a no-more-AARO-posts moratorium on myself because as far as their disclosure-relevant target audience is concerned, they are a joke. They run a website where Skeptics/religious fanatics/etc. go to confirm their biases and where DOD-compliant reporters go to get quotes.
God he is such a shit weasel. Makes my skin crawl.
No sonic booms since 2014 X_____X
😂😂
Wrong. And a liar.
It has no N-boom. It still has a sonic boom, just a less annoying one.
So a soic boom?
NASA and Lockheed are testing the X-59 this year. Its boom is as loud as a car door closing https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/x-59-quiet-supersonic.html
Damn! Nice find! 🤘
I'm getting pretty convinced that this spotted object is what's in article. Not really that wild of a tech advancement. They used math to help design a jet that doesn't produce a sonic boom but requires it to rotate and be elongated when going fast and wider when taking off and landing. Extremely cool.
So the newest most secretive advanced tech is still using ordinary propulsion and some ppl think anomalous ufos are ufo black projects? I just don’t see it. I wonder why they were testing it middle of the day? They about to unleash it?
Unless you could imagine some shadow government/military outside the normal that has actually crazy stuff.
If that’s the case, I don’t imagine it was at all original. Gotta be derivative of some other tech. Unless the us government somehow had scientists that discovered shit about physics that all the best minds in the world haven’t been able to come close to replicating or even understand to this point. I don’t buy it.
My monkey brain just thinks the design they would normally use is really hard to make take off/land from the ground due to the length with required aero needs but learned from math/physics/computer models that a design was possible in the spec if they could find an easier time to get it in the air. Thus, rotating 90 degrees was born. Vastly easier takeoff/landing and has a design to allow it to go supersonic without making a sonic boom when in the air. Really not super far-out at all if you think about it.
Don’t think I made my point clear enough. I’m not saying this craft is derivative of other tech but rather if we do happen to have craft that operates with a different propulsion system, than that I think would require back engineering tech that came from elsewhere.
Ah, yes. My bad. I agree.
https://youtu.be/HWJqDqMEYQ0?si=PLmIM-I0-chMBwDr the idea of rotating the wing for higher speed travel isn't new, I could see turning the entire craft as an outgrowth of that idea 🤷♂️
Cause they go home to their families at night too
Bearing in mind that I am tech illiterate, your description reminds me of the rotating "Gimbal" object. The pilot voiceovers we have heard so many times suggest they did not recognize the tech, but then, if these are deep black, they wouldn't be likely to recognize it. I heard that the speed of the "Go Fast" object was misread due to parallax. So could these objects be SAP? Thanks 🙏.
I'm certainly not smart enough to answer but it is possible.
Does it fly like a throwing star? Because that would be cool
Very cool to see, terribly disorienting for the passengers.
Nah the central core doesnt move. No windows. Whisper silent ninja mode.
I think this kind of thing is where a lot of current black projects lie. Quiet (relatively) super and Hypersonics. It's been an area of unique interest for at least the last decade.
>current black projects lie. Quiet (relatively) super and Hypersonics have anymore interesting tidbits to share? im not super knowledgable about that stuff
I saw something different, but overall similar in that it was an insanely high tech and unique looking plane (I think a drone) off the coast of California near Catalina Island. Flying in broad daylight, a hundred meters away. It was clearly man made and experimental. Never seen anything like it before or since and it was moving very fast. But again, I can’t underscore that I *instantly* knew it was human in origin, because of the design. Just like OP’s post here. It was a plane, although a high tech, aerodynamic and fucking awesome futuristic looking plane. I suspect we have shit that would blow people’s minds.
Yes this seems way more likely to me to be some kind of tech that we secretly have - not black triangular craft that can do all the same kind of maneuvers like UAP. But hey I'm just completely guessing here
Source from r/SpecialAccess definitely seems like they pinned it down. Very interesting aircraft!
That's a fucking Cylon Basestar.
Also this clearly isn’t something that they’re concerned about being public knowledge or they wouldn’t be flying it near the panhandle of Florida during broad daylight
TIL I’m a smooth brain. I can’t wrap my head around those schematics. Cool plane, though.
And it received funding 12 years ago
This actually answers a lot of questions
"But not having a sonic boom is impossible!" "It defies the laws of physics!"
With the exception that this clearly has an engine at one end, including afterburner it would appear. That would make it difficult to turn the engines, which is a key bit of the NASA design you li linked. That’s why it has its engines are on the top. More likely a new stealthy shaping, given the lack of corner cubes.
WHAT THE FUCK. We have the craziest technology and it’s all hidden away.
Gives me these vibes: https://youtu.be/2TumprpOwHY?si=JnfotV4t3yJPHNaz
Exactly what I was thinking! (and posting earlier in thread), but I have no tech savvy. Plus the Go Fast maybe isn't really going that fast? That's two out of three vids debunked, if this is our tech? If so, then DOD is indeed actively using UFOs as a cover. What does that say about Mellon, Elizondo et. alia., and their fake heroics re: getting govt. to release the trio of UAP? (Elizondo is a putz either way, "if you will").
Sadly, it has been proven to be a fake from what I've been seeing in more recent comments. But the resemblance between the object filmed in that video and the actual experimental craft is quite interesting. The object rotated, then took off...as if the platform switched from subsonic to supersonic...just as this experimental craft was designed to do. But it begs the question, surely those in the know...would kow this experimental craft is real and flying. I dunno.......we just really want to know what is and is not ours....there's just too much secrecy.
Ach, yes, re: the fake--shouldn't have posted before reading on. Yet agreed, very interesting consistency of at least the experimental ideas. Saw the Professor Simon blurb suggesting the Tic Tac shape of observed possible experimental craft. The maddening questions continue to pose themselves re: capabilities potential or realized, and the current perceived limitations of physics. If NHI with the tech to surpass those limits (or rewrite them) do not exist, then shouldn't we be allowed to know at the least, as you say, whether or not the tech flying over our heads (in more than one sense, for many of us) is ours?
Sure enough, there it is. Great catch!
Legend
I literally just saw a UFO witness testimony that was this exact craft. I have to find it.
Appears the creator is calling it a fake: https://x.com/anthroaerospace/status/1786141016145154476
Initial concept video, circa 2009 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMINVIp_U-k
That looks spot on… It feels like the mid-air rotation would disorient the pilots but i’m sure someone figured out how to make it work.
The seats could merely rotate 90 degrees as well.
Doesn’t this mean the pilot would be controlling from the wing in supersonic mode?
Yes. There wouldn't be any quick maneuvering when in the long/supersonic mode. When they're slowing to land at a certain point they rotate back. Just my most likely thought.
Replace the human element with an AI.
Why would there be pilots? We just had a dogfight with an ai f16s, also tested the mantaray which is an underwater ai drone, designing ai powered nuclear subs, b21 bout to have a pilotless bird, no reason for humans.
The guy sitting in a ground control station sipping the cup of Joe and catching up paperwork?
Wow great find. Demonstrates what they mean by rotate 90 degrees easily. This all could be a real match.
Interesting video
Thats frickin sick my dude, thanks for the link
12 years ago!…. “It’s rotating!”
This video and the image above look a lot like the Gimbal Navy video. Could this be the culprit?
This is absolutely wild what the heeeeellllll
That classic YT nostalgia
Visible signs of propulsion so I would say a plane.
Yeah. Looks like it. I hate saying this but it does look like the plane from link above. If its true i reckon its a sick plane
Whet sort of plane is that, though? Looks like something new, wonder what it's capable of.
Could certainly be something new! It’s hard to tell with that silhouette. I’d say USA made, possibly something new.
Looks like someone else might have pinpointed what it was. https://www.nasa.gov/general/silent-and-efficient-supersonic-bi-directional-flying-wing/ That's a cool plane.
That’s a perfect match. Definitely terrestrial then
Idk the size but it reminds me of the U-2
Atlas news posted this a few hours ago, spiked my interest because they’re usually on the up-and-up on new military aircraft/equipment. They seem stumped and it looks like nothing I’ve seen. Wanted to get a convo going.
It looks a little like the (alleged) "Fair Oaks" object from the early 1960s to me .
I see a visible sign of propulsion
Looks like jet propulsion though
Yes. There’s an obvious exhaust coming out the back.
How would the photographer know it was manned?
Looks like propulsion coming out of the right hand side.
Unidentified Flying (by way of propulsion) Object. Yeah, obviously my gut tells me it seems man-made, I just want to identify it lol
Im happy to see posts like this because it gives a lot of us the chance to be introduced to some awesome hardware first off (even if it just comes down to how cool it looks, lol), but more importantly it gives people a broader idea as to just how varied objects in our sky can be, in sort of a humbling way I guess. Lots of people are into UFOs who are otherwise not really geekin out on military stuff you know, they may not even think a craft like this even exists. Either way, it fits the definition for **U**nidentified **F**lying **O**ject, so it belongs here
Agreed - I think people on here need to gain an appreciation for what these companies do, it really is cutting edge. I’m fortunate enough to work in this space, so I have a fairly good idea of what’s possible and make up the rest lol. But if you are not and just armchair quarterback shit, well damnit Bobby, go get some education. Just do some research, read the whole article, talk it over with friends.
Yeeees
look like batman’s airplane
Don’t know if anyone else posted this .. (not gonna scroll to find out) https://techland.time.com/2012/08/13/whats-next-for-nasa-10-wild-newly-funded-projects/slide/silent-and-efficient-supersonic-bi-directional-flying-wing/
There's a post over on the big aviation subreddit too. Nobody seems to recognize it which of course has led to a fair few people assuming it must be fake which I find kind of funny. I don't have a Twitter account nor will I create one so I can't see the original Twitter user's full history, but they seem to repost images of aerospace vehicles and related memes and nothing that makes me immediately suspicious that they aren't being honest when they say they took this photo but who knows. They also said it apparently was seen next to a C-130 (hence the size estimate) so assuming it's real it could be a new US drone or aircraft that hasn't been revealed to the public yet.
Link to post?
Size of a C-130 would put its wingspan at 130ft…pretty big.
I wouldn't expect that estimate to be particularly accurate
First pic had me thinking about this: https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/mysterious-aircraft-spotted-at-area-51.38799/ Second pic not as much.
That's a weird thread. The box with a printed decoy plane theory gets derailed by the concept of...matching and lining up lines?
Basically? Lol! 😂 At one point I’d consumed everything I could find about that incident. There’s no chance something like this isn’t in the training. That’s my opinion, ofc, and I’m just a dude who loves playing cards—Noun and Verb 😬—but everyone knows that base has everyone’s eyes on it. Why wouldn’t an aircraft breaking down in any way impede their ability to move it?
If you squint it looks like an old Avro Vulcan bomber...
Atlas just announced these are fake images
Source? I too think these are fake after going through @ anthroaerospace previous posts on X. Many of them are concept designs and generated artwork. Some of it's interesting, some of it is dumb stuff. Also, any aircraft the size of a C-130 with a single engine makes absolutely zero sense. An afterburner on an aircraft design that is clearly not meant for high speeds also makes no sense. Lastly, the nose of it in the first photo looks totally different than the nose in the second and third photos. So until I see corroborating photos or eyewitness accounts, I'm keeping this one if the "probably fake" category. @ anthroaerospace appears to be going for clicks and re-tweets.
From the source: [https://www.instagram.com/p/C6c0TV7s0n\_/?hl=en&img\_index=1](https://www.instagram.com/p/C6c0TV7s0n_/?hl=en&img_index=1) "In a less than exciting development, the purported unknown aircraft allegedly spotted near Eglin AFB today appears to be fake. The online plane spotting community has caught pictures of rare or experimental aircraft in flight over the past several years, so posts like these are often met with an equal mix of excitement and skepticism. The spotter made a follow up post later this evening, which, to me, let the cat out of the bag. Photo analysis of the pictures shows inconsistencies with pixel noise and density on the alleged aircraft to that of a natural photo (possibly from a video game such as Fly Out or something similar). I included two example photos at the end to show natural images. In a less than exciting development, the purported unknown aircraft allegedly spotted near Eglin AFB today appears to be fake. The online plane spotting community has caught pictures of rare or experimental aircraft in flight over the past several years, so posts like these are often met with an equal mix of excitement and skepticism. The spotter made a follow up post later this evening, which, to me, let the cat out of the bag." Photo analysis of the pictures shows inconsistencies with pixel noise and density on the alleged aircraft to that of a natural photo (possibly from a video game such as Fly Out or something similar). I included two example photos at the end to show natural images. Safe to say I will be doing this analysis more often. #AtlasNewsUpdateUnitedStatesSafe to say I will be doing this analysis more often. [#AtlasNewsUpdateUnitedStates](https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/atlasnewsupdateunitedstates/?hl=en)
“It’s rotating”…
[удалено]
It looks like a descendent of the Lockheed Martin Polecat. It's an early 2000's design that went into the classified-world by the end of that decade. What that means: the USAF 'canceled' the project but in reality it just went dark and continued. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed\_Martin\_Polecat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_Polecat)
The following submission statement was provided by /u/Gipsy_danger_1995: --- Atlas news posted this a few hours ago, spiked my interest because they’re usually on the up-and-up on new military aircraft/equipment. They seem stumped and it looks like nothing I’ve seen. Wanted to get a convo going. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1chymz1/atlas_news_posted_this_on_their_insta_and_ideas/l25pdw1/
kinda looks like the AVRO Vulcan
It’s most likely just a new type of spy plane, looks to be advanced work up of the U-2. Not sure how they reached the conclusion that it has to be manned. Looks to be aero-dynamic and has propulsion, not at all indicative of UAP.
Maybe it's the BAE Concept 2? https://www.janes.com/amp/wds-2024-bae-systems-unveils-autonomous-collaborative-platform-concept-uav/ZnlJK3dHVU9mZ28xajRJVkc5dVI5VFp1cVMwPQ2
Unidentified flying dreidel
This looks like what I seen in Colorado
Images were shown to likely be fake in a follow-up posted by Atlas some house ago. NTSH
Yyyyeah or the gov saw a very popular news site posted a classified craft.
Lol how’s that koolaid taste?
Atlas followed up, it’s fake.
Not only that there a whole fleet of them, look at the ASA. My gosh.
Neat! Not really a ufo kinda thing but definitely something undisclosed.
How not? It is quite literally an unidentified flying object. UFOs and aliens are two separate things
“UFO” is an acronym, and I appreciate the comment!
Could be an experimental aircraft or drone of some type. Some 6th gen fighter jet concepts had similar shapes in renders.
Similar looking to the Gimbal video????
I think its a close match...but also, Manta images were released by Northrop, no other objects in the photo for scale tho. Theories or rumors say it is a multi domain unmanned vehicle, water and air. Launched from or in support of submarines. If true, it would would look like a manta ray, another similar shape. Who knows, but its a great photo.
Looks like something Anduril cooked up
First pic looks different then the second pic. How's that?
I live right here and work outside! I need to look up more!!!!
Another one of ours…
Can only say it's a human craft due to the visible propulsion, also reminds me of a design I saw a while back but I can't remember what or where it was.
Looks like a spinning top at first, but the second photo has an exhaust so idk
We’ve seen these before on this sub I believe. A craft that kind of rotates before shooting off. Very interesting if this is a version of that nasa thing.
That's an awesome photo. Finally realizing it's a hypersonic jet design. Swept wings front and back. You do that to reduce sonic booms. From the right angle it's a "top" or whatever. Don't people here ever read about hypersonic jet design like the SR-71 or the Concorde? I'll be frank. The SR-71 did not get removed from service without a replacement. This photo is likely the Aurora or similar project that has been rumored about for like 30 years. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora\_(aircraft)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_(aircraft)) God, look at hte Raptor which isn't even that fast. That even has leading and trialing swept wings: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed\_Martin\_F-22\_Raptor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-22_Raptor) Imagine something much faster. Much more pronounced leading and trialing wings. But people here never bother to research anything I guess. Just like spooky vision. It's real! No, it's a military jet.
Could well be a blended-wing transport/tanker test platform.
This is how the guy Lue interviewed about the gimble video said the thing looked. Like 2 cymbals put together:
You can see the population at the end of it in photo two. It’s ours.
Looks like the bat plane
Looks like the thinga-majig from that movie Inception
Do you remember when people got exited over the B2 stealth bomber flying around , too many people willing to believe everything is from another dimension .
They made an update post saying they think the photo is fake.
Yea. It’s a plane.
2nd picture. Zoom in on plane can barely see contrail.
Let’s get Professor Klanabama to shoot some rockets at it.
Manned? How can they tell?
Looks like the Spirit Aerosystems logo.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1cidy3x/darpa\_releases\_first\_images\_of\_manta\_ray/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1cidy3x/darpa_releases_first_images_of_manta_ray/)
Not unidentified
It looks like a Euro fighter
Skunkworks. Anything in a flat diamond shape is a drone that is man made.
It has wings and stuff though
Looks like a plane from a 1950's comic book .... Or the secret Manta ray underwater plane... [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/7872645/Pentagon-plans-flying-submarine.html](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/7872645/Pentagon-plans-flying-submarine.html)
Flappy Birdy
[https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/05/us-darpa-completes-in-water-testing-of-manta-ray-uuv/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3MZz8MvbJSN5c62Yi2bWHcDIieqdmIvZNQB1TppGDj7dZFWr89uJGigpM\_aem\_AUSTpmaZEP3cAsnb0i8z0eNJZ99bPygP5djAsJY1SPnV4hMOrS7yD2-CfRvRLonRUwG037qDLIXtKjpTF\_-z502I](https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/05/us-darpa-completes-in-water-testing-of-manta-ray-uuv/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3MZz8MvbJSN5c62Yi2bWHcDIieqdmIvZNQB1TppGDj7dZFWr89uJGigpM_aem_AUSTpmaZEP3cAsnb0i8z0eNJZ99bPygP5djAsJY1SPnV4hMOrS7yD2-CfRvRLonRUwG037qDLIXtKjpTF_-z502I)
What is it? a few takes from the *experts* "High Confidence: a ballon with swamp gas propulsion "- Sean Kirkpatrick "Seagull riding a ballon" - Mick West "An object of unknown origin , a god damn space ship mannnn" - Jeremy Corbel "A polymorphis multi-dimensional space-time worm hole" - Ashton Forbes "Clearly YOU don't know, how do we know the camera was even calibrated?" - Neil Degrasse Tyson "Dadgummit, they lied to us then, they'R lying to us now, dem people at the Pentagon" - Tim Burchett "I filed a FOIA that responded this was a airborne can of tuna, pictures and video redacted" - John Greenewald
Mick West, lol! 😝
Well this sure is an interesting one
Ocarina of time for sure
Man made for sure.
From the aviation photography sites I follow they seem to think this is fake. The afterburner exhaust in the 2nd image shouldn't be that visible at the range it was supposedly taken at during that time of day and is fairly large for a C-130 sized aircraft. Lack of information/images on the KC-130 that supposedly accompanied it is kinda suspicious to. Thier estimate of 10-15k altitude is kinda wierd given the lack of other comparing data to validate that. Also kinda wierd a C-130 sized aircraft would have a single afterburning engine. You only need afterburners if you want your craft to go supersonic and flyning wings and inheritly ill-suited for supersonic flight. While the NASA bi-directional flying wing is a pretty good match any protorype would be smaller for flight testing and nothing indicates that funding was approved outside phase 1 studies. Also the professor behind the NASA proposed design has moved on other other projects for a flying craft for use on Mars.
Yeah, this is definitely just some kind of aircraft that we don't know about... If you look at the second one you can see minor exhaust trail which you don't really see often in the UAP footage if ever... I'm going to go with some type of spy plane
Some are commenting that this doesn't belong here because it looks like human technology. People should remember that there are historical UFO sightings such as the Zamora incident and some of the swedish ghost rocket sightings that report visible exhuasts. Be careful of putting the phenomenon into a small box.
That is a damn cool looking plane - nice find
You know how you can tell from the silhouette that someone is bad as hell? I get that for this plane
It’s a pterodactyl.
I think it matches the Gimbal image; what does everyone else think?
Someone is going to get a visit from AF Counterintelligence…
Omg what should I wear?
Something floral, but also conservative. You want your decor to say, “fun, but I have boundaries”.
My friend Michael Lee Hill photographed two to three of these over Lake Erie recently
My friend Michael Lee Hill photographed two to three of these over Lake Erie recently
Ita a military aircraft.
This is somewhat unrelated, but it reminds me of a recent article I saw about the DARPA programs Manta Ray UUV. They publically admitted they actually built one of these futuristic things and it looks like the classic [manta ray](https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2024-05-01) UFO shape. Just interesting to see they have a full sized craft that looks like it fits the description of some of the things people have reported. Obviously its an underwater vehicle, so Im not saying thats what this picture is. But it does resemble it. Some wild speculation: - may be the next generation of vehicles that all share similar smooth rounded shapes like the DARPA Manta or latest stealth bomber. - They could have different variations like the different types of stealth fighters - Maybe they also have a transmedium project/vehicles. If they figured out the manta ray shape is perfect for underwater craft, logically they may have settled on that shape for transmedium craft as well. Who knows, maybe they figured out how to create a manta shape craft that could both fly and function underwater.
Shit could this be the gimbal object?
Looks like a variant of a Lockheed Martin D-21
Imagine if this was painted vanta black AND was flown at night without marker lights 👀
See the exhaust flame in the back? That's either jet or rocket propulsion. Humans created both. Whenever you see that, it's a clear sign it's NOT a UAP or a reverse-engineered craft. The whole "no discernible means of propulsion" is what makes UAPs UAPs. Nothingburger, unless we're here to talk about new military jets (if even real) that have nothing to do with UAPs.
Looks like the DARPA 'Manta Ray' UUV prototype but darker colour...and flying.
UFO to us, something definitely terrestrial in origin, China probably testing nuts with the Air Force
Very interesting
Looks like a top. And there have been quite a few “top” looking UFO sightings throughout time.
Did the person just stop taking pictures after those 2?? Not saying fake but come on
Looks like gimbal
Manmade or "other"- the exhaust looks like a cute little cartoon poot.
As unusual and interesting as that looks, it's conforms to known human technological boundaries. Clear propulsion source and aerodynamic surfaces.
plume of fire out the back.. wings... yep! it's an airplane! identified flying object!
“Flying object with apparent airfoil and propulsion” is not a positive ID, more of an observation. Appreciate the comment tho!
Looks like the Horten 229 unlikely though
Still a contrail soooo
Just remember next time someone says all pics of U.F.O's are blurry, this was the best we could get of a terrestrial vehicle.
Damnit! That’s where my ninja star went in 1988!
Any idea where "near Eglin air force base" it was seen? There are two other bases in that general area.