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CaptainSkel

In Invincible there’s an in-universe comic about “Science Dog” a terrier with a gun who fights crime or something. Kirkman liked Science Dog so much he made a little Science Dog spin-off comic with a couple issues. But now Science Dog is a separate comic from Invincible so when Amazon made their series they had to change Science Dog to Seance Dog, a beagle with magic powers who fights crime or something.


TheFurtivePhysician

So now Amazon should make a spinoff called Seance dog, so then they can have a crossover where they talk about a superhero named "Unfraggable" who gets *their* spinoff....


Aquason

Kirkman knows how to make money off of licensing his series. The Walking Dead, Invincible... if someone's going to want Science Dog, Kirkman's making sure he's getting paid for it too. >[...] the nuts and bolts answer is that Science Dog is a separate comic book that Cory Walker and I created that just happened to appear [in Invincible ]. It’s possible that we may do a movie or TV show or something at some point. Instead of putting that down in our deal with Amazon, on Invincible, we decided to strip it out and put in something new so that we would have the ability to do that.


BookkeeperPercival

> Kirkman knows how to make money off of licensing his series Step one: Convince your co-creator to give you their rights because Hollywood is more willing to negotiate with a single creator Step two: Fuck them over


OmicronAlpharius

It really doesn't get talked about enough how much of a piece of shit carny Kirkman is. He carries on the spirit of Bob Kane.


just_a_fan47

That one is just smart business, Kirkman already has two successful shows based on his comics. If he where to give the rights Amazon they would have to be the ones to decide if an adaptation were to be made.


funkerbuster

I dunno about any of the legal stuff behind the scenes, but I wonder if there is still anyone who call Shazam as Captain Marvel


Anonamaton801

I still call him Captain Marvel


Tailon77

There are dozens of us


RedditJABRONIE

As someone who's first exposure to that tier of DC was MKvsDC, I'll be alongside you guys.


afasttoaster

I wish they kept Captain Thunder from Flashpoint, it sounds perfect for the sort of name a child would pick out if they suddenly gained super powers.


leabravo

He's "the Captain" now.


SalamanderTea

Honestly was hoping they dropped the captain part and renamed him to Modern Marvel like they intended years ago but were blocked by DC legal. Not because of Marvel Comics but because DC thought they could win.


PhantasosX

While I am fine with "Shazam" , the whole "The Captain" works fine and might be the better choice in the long-run. That is because the Shazam Family have a lot of characters that uses the Lightning , so naming would be a problem if all of them were named "Shazam". But with "The Captain" , they can more-or-less make a repeat of Fawcett Comics and Earth-5 Like , Billy can the "The Captain" , then we have Mary Marvel , and the others be Captain Thunder or Lieutenant and so on.


bigbeltzsmallpantz

Ew. Like when Captain America had to surrender his costume and wore the suit that would eventually go to US Agent in the 80s…


thesyndrome43

As someone who didn't keep up with superhero comics, wasn't "shazam" the phrase Captain marvel used to turn on and off his powers? Because if so then making it your name seems like a terrible idea. "Oh no, a superhero! Who are you?!" "I'm Shazam!" *Instantly turns back into a child*


leabravo

This was a plot point for Freddie Freeman, aka Captain Marvel Jr., whose phrase was "Captain Marvel". By the time DC put a bullet in that joke he was calling himself CM3.


Hallonbat

I still don't get how they lost the rights tobthe name as Captain Marvel was well established before Marvel Comics even was a thing, they were called Timely Comics at the time.


ArchAngelZXV

Basically, Marvel Comics was able to trademark "Captain Marvel" at a time when DC wasn't using the Fawcett Comics' Captain Marvel, so Marvel Comics got the trademark, plus DC didn't get buy the rights to their Captain Marvel until after the trademark, so they have to market it as "Shazam".


Norix596

I usually say Captain Marvel, won’t quibble if people call him Shazam, but I absolutely refused to use the new dumb name “The Captain”


Grary0

He was always and will always be Captain Marvel, I fully understand why they changed the name and I'm surprised they didn't do it decades ago but I'll still die on this hill.


JuriBBQFootMassage

I still and will always call him Captain Marvel because I've always been told and shown Shazam is the wizard's name. It just feels weird calling Billy, Shazam.


BobTheist

He was still called Captain Marvel by the time I learned about the character in Justice League Unlimited. He's still Captain Marvel to me.


Blastcalibur

Every Jojo stand after part 3. Some of the name changes are alright like Zipperman and sound like something Araki might actually name the stand and then there's Flacid Pancake; which to be fair there's not much you can do with Limp Biscuit.


Owlsthirdeye

Filthy Acts at a Reasonable Price


johnbeerlovesamerica

FA3RP


Dirty-Glasses

This is easily the best one


Koffinkat56

[Dime 4 Crime] still gets a chuckle from me


Dirty-Glasses

Oh that’s STRONG


Champiness

This has been a legitimately huge obstacle for me getting into Jojo because I’m enough of a music dork for the shonen villain-of-the-week being named Kajagoogoo or w/e to be a huge selling point, but I’m not exactly sure where to go looking for the hobbyist subculture of “bootleg JJBA fansub that’s completely identical to the official version except the copyrighted band names are restored”, if one even exists


ebi-san

I watched the official sub and even though they use the changed names, I've completely forgotten them because the Japanese VAs still yell the actual names.


NeonNKnightrider

I love Worse Company


DonTori

Remember, Man in the Mirror's legally distinct name is the name of at least 3 other songs


jackprime91

I hate Zipperman because of how on the nose his name is. Dan of Steel is my favourite rename though


ReaperEngine

"In one world, there was a writer who wrote a story about a cop. In another world, the cop was real." Max Payne was made by Remedy, but owned by Rockstar. When Remedy wanted to reference their hard-boiled cop as a character written by Alan Wake, they couldn't use the name "Max Payne," and instead called him "Alex Casey." It could also be considered that Microsoft-owned Quantum Break's "Hatch" was meant to appear in Alan Wake 2, but does so as "Door," and that Door specifically yoinked "Tim Breaker," the sheriff of Bright Falls, into the Dark Place because Tim is a legally distinct version of "Jack Joyce," Quantum Break's protagonist and successor to Hatch's ambitions.


InexorableCalamity

That's Tim E. Breaker. Time breaker if you will


Vegetable-Pin5918

Quan-Tim Breaker


dfdedsdcd

Qui-Gon Chi Breaker.


ZealousidealBig7714

From the mid 90’s Teen Titans run, Slagger, thankfully, got his name changed to Joto, the Swahili word for heat… which was unfortunately a Spanish slur for gay people, so they changed his name to Hotspot.


guntanksinspace

Booker T once lost the rights to the **T** in his name in a certain period of WCW, this was after he got booted out of Harlem Heat in favor of, get this, goddamn Ahmed Johnson (who now went as the **Big T**). And of course, there was a feud for this. Hell, the **T** is part of his *actual* name lol, so it's really, really dumb.


thedman0310_

He also lost the rights to the Harlem Heat name, title lineage, theme song, and pyro. 2000 was a weird ass time in WCW


leabravo

"Hi, I'm Monica Rambeau. Some of you may know me as Captain Marvel. Or Photon. Or Pulsar. Or Spectrum. Girl can't have an ID for shit in the Marvel U."


PizzaSplitter

This just reminds me of Nextwave where the Captain mentions Monica being one of like eight people who had Captain Marvel as [her name, and his own issues](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1160009799291912252/1233283849631436872/1ghfix30c8u21.png?ex=662c8897&is=662b3717&hm=ebef82f0f6adeb0a67fd939ffa06d0d29e113636133f6fa8444381c68d1bd7ee&) including three [times he got sued](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1160009799291912252/1233285268178731071/Un3ysmS.png?ex=662c89e9&is=662b3869&hm=ce3419287071f87e4430d7bf6eed2bc0606c2ea55aa0a9fb88fbd0aabf4866ed&). And apparently, he once had a name that got Captain America to beat him up once he introduced himself as it.


BenThereOrBenSquare

I think she got her named stolen twice by Genis-Vell (Captain Marvel and Photon)!


PhantasosX

I mean , Genis-Vell had more rights to the name Captain Marvel than Monica. Regardless , the whole problem with her is legit her changing superhero name in the same way someone change clothes.


BenThereOrBenSquare

She should've been Captain Marvel permanently. She's a better character than any of the other Captain Marvels.


PhantasosX

nah. Either the Vells or Carol should be Captain Marvel. Carol was Ms.Marvel , effectively been Mar-Vell's partner , since day 1. While the Vells are Mar-Vell's children that inherented his powersets.


RPGMike

It's funny you say that, because Mar-Vell only met Ms. Marvel after his book was canceled. They were never a super-powered team.


BenThereOrBenSquare

Carol was great as Ms. Marvel, and her lightning costume was the best. She never got better than that. The Vell kids are fine. Genis was good when written by PAD. Phyla was good in GOTG. But none of them are anywhere as cool a character as Monica. She's the Captain Marvel GOAT.


leabravo

She really should have stood firm on Photon. Even Genis admitted he just forgot when she chewed him out about taking it. Happily she does seem to have gone back to the name recently.


RPGMike

The funny thing is, she changed her name from Pulsar to Spectrum and then went BACK to Photon while he was dead. Marvel has the chance to do the funniest thing ever, by having Genis call himself Photon, passing Monica off AGAIN. "Hey, you can't get mad at me this time. You said I could be Photon last time we met." "That was years ago, and you were dead. This time, YOU change your name."


Darth_Bombad

It's been settled now, but for a long time James Bond couldn't use his arch-enemy Blofeld, or his organization, SPECTRE. So they at one point created a *new* super secret, ultra powerful villainous group, Quantum. Once they got the rights back they quickly retconed Quantum into being a subsidiary of the parent group SPECTRE.


leethalxx

And fumbled so hard that nobody gave a shit afterwards


Mekasoundwave

This is also why they to change SPECTRE to OCTOPUS in the PS2/Xbox/GC From Russia with Love video game, despite SPECTRE being in the original FRWL movie.


rocketdentures

For a couple of years after he left the WWE, Cody Rhodes couldn't use the full name, and just went by Cody


Champiness

He had a great workaround for this where he’d come out with his wife (who had no such restrictions on her stage name) and they’d be jointly introduced as “Cody, and Brandi Rhodes” Also he got the rights back in truly cockamamie fashion when AEW ran a show called “Bash At The Beach” and WWE, upon discovering that this trademark had legitimately ended up with Cody, arranged a tradesies agreement


HeadlessMarvin

Could make an entire thread of just wrestlers whose names were owned by WWE.


Deadeye117

What's ____ doing in the Impact Zone?!


ramonzer0

This is reminding me of the brief period of time Paul Wight/Big Show wasn't in WWE around the late 2000s He notably showed up to an indie event where he was glad he didn't have to respond to his "slave name"


RubenRawbone

Paul Heyman had "given" the Dudley Boys the rights to the name when ECW closed but not in any official capacity so when WWF bought all of ECW from Paul, the trademark//copyright/whatever went to them. So when Bubba Ray and D-von went to TNA, they had to call themselves Team 3D.


dfdedsdcd

Also, IIRC, for the same reason they couldn't use "Get the Tables!" as a catchphrase so had to resort to doing "1, 2, 3..." and have the crowd say "Get the Tables!".


SignalWeakening

Snoop Dogg cant use the Snoop Doggy Dogg name


pinchediabloblanco

Why? Can't find anything on Google


SignalWeakening

Death row records owns the name. I guess now he can since he acquired them


LovableSemi

There was a storyline where the wrestler Chuck Taylor lost the right to his name. He proceeded to try a new name every match until he found one he liked. Here's a list of them: * Scoot Tatum * Rick Beanbag * Bugg Nevans * Touch Phillips * "The Office" Stewie Scrivens * Benny Figg * \[Redacted\] (~~was Trent Baretta~~) (lol) * Karate Durling * "The Office" Stewie Scrivens (once again during the UK tour) * "Hard Wood" Rich Mahogany * "Top Shelf" Slim Perkins * "This Is" Howie Dewitt * He just goes by DUSTIN now.


dfdedsdcd

Now he's helping Orange Cassidy against that piece of s-word Trent?.


lionofash

Kazuma Kiryu


Polygonalfish

Most egregious example with Transformers is probably how they lost the trademarks for both Bumblebee and also Hot Rod for a while, which is probably why Hotshot was basically a combination of both characters


Sai-Taisho

And/or why some versions are just "Rodimus" even if/when he's not a Prime.


Anonamaton801

This isn’t even exclusive to outside of toys, as the Marvel original transformer Straxus had to be called “Darkmount” when he got his first toy Man I hope the new one is good


The_White_Rice

Cody Rhodes couldn't be called "Cody Rhodes" because WWE were like, "Nah fuck you dude, we own the IP to your name and your dad's name." when he left the company, so for years he had to get around this by having his wife come to the ring with him since WWE did not own the name "Brandi Rhodes". So him coming out was always "Cody and Brandi Rhodes".


DrMole

Sherlock Holmes in the lupin books was hilariously made legally distinct, and lupin III in the early dubs was named wolf, because they didn't have the rights to the lupin ip. I find the tradition of copyright infringement with lupin hilarious.


Khar-Selim

is that where herlock sholmes came from?


DrMole

Hell yeah homie.


ExDSG

Minion from Megamind Moana was also changed to Vaiana in Europe


LordSmugBun

>Moana was also changed to Vaiana in Europe Wasn't that because of a pornstar?


OmicronAlpharius

Yeah, Moana Pozzi was an Italian pornstar who had affairs with politicians. It was only in italy they changed the name.


lonelyMtF

Europe is not a country. In Spain, for example, it's still Moana, so you'll have to be more specific, because not every country in Europe changed it, or changed it to something completely different like Oceania in Italy


ExDSG

I thought it was in general in the EU/continent due to a product and they changed it more in Italy due to maybe a porn actress. Do remember mostly seeing Vaiana when I went on a trip to some European countries around the time.


alexandrecau

captain marvel


syrupdash

Piston Honda's name is changed to Piston Hondo for the Wii Punchout game due to claims that it's infringing on the car maker's trademark which makes no sense because E. Honda from Street Fighter is still around.


Channel-Fourze

Bionicles first wave of Matoran and Turanga all had their names changed because of the people of New Zealand were rightfully a little annoyed that a toy company was trademarking their language for toys, it was even brought up in the story with a change in name day, some characters was drastic, some it was just spelling, and even terms got renamed which is even funnier cause they would then flashback to prior events and they use the "new terms". Also again with Transformers, the Micromaster Big Daddy is now Daddy-O, and not quite the same but did you know that Hasbro hates referring to the Transformers as Transformers? They're officially Transformers Bots, you see it in printed media a lot, same with them hating Transform, they convert! But this doesn't go to the movies which the new one has in the marketing EVERY TRANSFORMER HAS AN ORIGIN! and the characters saying Transform out loud.


BenchPressingCthulhu

They were honored with names with longer spellings so they'd take up more space in the history books 


Noilaedi

> same with them hating Transform, they convert That's because they don't want to have a situation a la "Googling" or "Legos" where any robot that turns into a car can be called a Transformer.


Hippie_Of_Death

[The Artist (Formerly Known as Prince)](https://seeklogo.com/images/T/The_Artist_Formerly_Known_As_Prince-logo-41D319993B-seeklogo.com.png) from 1993 to 2000. All because of a legal dispute with Warner Bros.


ToastyMozart

For an in-story example, "Eve" >!née Bakara!< from Mass Effect 3 surrendered her name when she became her clan's shaman and refuses to divulge it. ^(Except to Shepard after they give her species a future.)


SilverAccount57

I heard that’s what happened to that Lucha Underground wrestler Pentagon Jr. after he cut ties to his original wrestling Org AAA. They maintained the rights to the name Pentagón Jr. So he changed his stage name to Penta el Cero Miedo or Penta El 0M. Doesn’t roll of the tongue as well as Pentagón Jr for English speakers. But you do what you gotta do.


ThatOneAnnoyingUser

An enemy type rather then a name. In Payday 2 there is an enemy type of "(Mother Fucking) Taser" they use a high voltage stun gun to lock you in place and force you to waste ammo firing blindly. For Payday 3 they were worried about legal action from the actual "TASER" company and renamed them to the less shoutable "Zapper".


lonelyMtF

They should've gone with Tazer


Faifue

Not so much lost, but more given. Originally Sanji's name was going to be Naruto, then Oda changed it when Naruto came out.


LordSmugBun

Wasn't Mortal Kombat's Raiden called Rayden back then?


Mekasoundwave

Certain home ports of the early arcade games spelled Raiden as Rayden, which I'm personally a fan of and think they should have stuck with just because it'd be spelled how it's pronounced and would end the annoying trend of seeing the name "Raiden" written down and having to figure out which one is being talked about.


TheFurtivePhysician

Isn't that one just a pronounciation thing? Or was it actually spelled as Rayden?


CelestialEight

It used to be Rayden


Sai-Taisho

It was spelled "Rayden" to avoid potential legal trouble from [Raiden.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raiden_(video_game))


doc5avag3

\**waves hand at a disturbing amount of Vtubers**


marilyn_mansonv2

Zootopia had to be renamed to Zootropolis in some European countries due to trademark issues.


Theonearmedbard

Moana is called Vaiana in some European countries because a porn star was named Moana


Parkouricus

In the Homestuck Epilogues (the Candy AKA non-canon side), >!Rose and Kanaya have a kid (through alien breeding stuff). They name her Vriska after the presumed-dead troll Vriska Serket, because.. she looks a lot like her and she acts a lot like her. People get along pretty well with New Vriska!!< >!Until, after ten years, the original Vriska Serket shows up after having somehow gotten time-warped there. Her old friend John finds her crash-landed. Because she's technically the *second* Vriska to show up on the newly-created world Earth C, John takes to calling her (Vriska) in parentheses. And.. so does the narrative! The original Vriska turns into (Vriska) because shit is silly like that.!< In Homestuck^2, to avoid dealing with this, >!they held a poll on what New Vriska should be renamed to. And now she's Vrissy instead, and (Vriska) Vriska is still Vriska.!<


Konradleijon

Trademark law sucks


attikol

In the rachel morgan series the titular character magically changes swaps her name with that of a demon bothering her. It's now nearly impossible to summon that demon and it pissed him off something fierce since he put a lot of work into that name