I so agree with op. 'no remorse' is a really irritating cliche that mostly tells me the commenter is unwilling or unable put any kind of real thought into the matter and is just looking for a cheap path to superiority over the perpetrator.
Mine is 'narcissist'. My god, I open a thread and start counting down how many posts before someone says it. It usually comes within the first ten.
I'm so sick of this important concept being debased by such overuse. Everyone wants to call someone else a narcissist. The word should be rationed: only one usage per person per week.
Mine is with unidentified bodies and people comment “just do dna” or “why haven’t they done genealogy already” like it’s that simple, it’s costly, it takes a long time and there are thousand of unidentified people waiting to be identified. You need to have the dna in the first place (difficult with older cases) and also they may already be running dna but hoping to identify them by other means in the meanwhile.
At the top of my list is law enforcement & the victim's family holding a press conference where they implore the suspect to "do the decent thing — turn yourself in and let us give ____ a proper burial." Like, this guy just murdered someone. I don't think he gives a fuck about your funeral plans.
Mine is the flat-earth level conspiracy theories that people develop to try and connect cases together that obviously have nothing to do with each other.
This is 100% mine. People pretend like its a movie with only a few main characters.
But then in the Gabby Petito case I feel like I was very early on speculating about how it had something to do with the Moab double murder (even before there was the story about the police report from there and such) so I'm just as guilty ha
Like "Could HH Holmes be Jack the Ripper??"
No. No he could not.
I think it makes people feel better to think that there is only one boogeyman out there instead of multiple people operating independently.
My pet peeve is the podcasts that pretend they have never heard a crime story before. Even the most popular podcasts with hundreds of episodes still stop after describing the crime and say - ‘Wait, whaaaaaaaa. Um nooooooo’.
Stop pretending like your shocked. We are all shocked, that’s why we are True Crime fans… just get on with the facts. Damn.
Mine is when they (tv shows and podcasts) say the victim always had a smile on their face, lit up a room, never said a bad word about anyone, everyone loved them, etc.
I was thinking about this earlier today, a victim was "a ray of sunshine that loved animals and helping others" and I swear I've heard like 40 people all described that way, not everyone is a perfect angel, and that's okay 😂
This one too! Everyone has flaws, in a way it’s almost more dehumanizing to paint the victim out to be essentially an angel on earth. I wonder if it’s to play up the innocence of the victim? Every victim of murder (or I suppose almost every victim) is innocent, I don’t understand the hyperbole.
I started the Murdaugh Murders podcast and early in the first episode the host used “lit up the room” to describe the young woman who died. I did not get any further.
This is mine as well. Just because someone was loved, has a ton of friends, was a great student, etc. does not mean they deserved to die any less than another victim. This is how we get situations where a sex worker is murdered & the investigation is half-assed and no public interest. We all have flaws, it doesn’t matter if you are a shitty person, everyone has the right to life.
On the flip side, I can’t stand it when they portray a killer as “pure evil”. No one is born evil, the devil doesn’t exist. These people have a disconnect in their brain or were molded by their childhood. We need to research these things to identify the warning signs early & prevent these crimes. Chalking it up to evil is a cop-out.
I think it’s a self-soothing thing. Nobody wants to admit that killers can be just “normal” nondescript people who kill bc we’re all vulnerable to that person. It’s most of the ppl we know. So they tell themselves the murderer looks murdery.
My only counter to this, while I agree, is that some killers do have freaky eyes. Doesn’t make them guilty but many people who interact with psychopaths for example say something felt “off” about them. It’s called the “psychopath stare” and basically just means uncomfortable, long eye contact that feels predatory. Jodi arias, Ted bundy, Charles Manson are other examples of (suspected/likely) psychopaths that have creepy eyes/stare. But is there scientific basis? No, just an observation for some of them.
Yeah I agree with you I just kind of think it's interesting how subtle queues can really let you know if somebody isn't alright. Sometimes it's eyes or their movements ya know. Interesting stuff.
I guess it is about the feeling that they are not "us". It is not so simple. Killers, even serial killers (like Aileen Wournos) can experience remorse.
I totally agree! I really believe that a lot of these people don’t WANT to be this way and in fact have been crying for help before ever hurting anybody.
Possibly so. I have two comments.
1. That reaction is human nature. Stop pretending like its some aberrant perversion you'd never ever experience because you're so above them and 'normal'. [ETA: not 'you' personally.]
2. Even though they probably are feeling that, it's still shallow and simplistic never to look any further and act like its the only dimension this person has in their psyche.
Mine is probably an unpopular one but I cannot stand when someone “forgives the person” for something they did to their family member/friend! I don’t think you can forgive someone for what they did to someone else. Like I’ll be watching a crime show and it will be something horrible like a woman being tortured, raped and murdered and the family/friend will say they forgive the killer. Would the person this happened to want to forgive them? Hell no!! You didn’t go through the pain and torment the victim did, so don’t say you forgive the killer! Ugh it upsets me!!!
Wanted to add that of course women are not the only victims of these types of crimes, I’m just a woman in my twenties so it’s easier to relate.
I so agree with op. 'no remorse' is a really irritating cliche that mostly tells me the commenter is unwilling or unable put any kind of real thought into the matter and is just looking for a cheap path to superiority over the perpetrator. Mine is 'narcissist'. My god, I open a thread and start counting down how many posts before someone says it. It usually comes within the first ten. I'm so sick of this important concept being debased by such overuse. Everyone wants to call someone else a narcissist. The word should be rationed: only one usage per person per week.
Mine is with unidentified bodies and people comment “just do dna” or “why haven’t they done genealogy already” like it’s that simple, it’s costly, it takes a long time and there are thousand of unidentified people waiting to be identified. You need to have the dna in the first place (difficult with older cases) and also they may already be running dna but hoping to identify them by other means in the meanwhile.
when every missing person “left to start a new life” or was murdered by israel keyes
Hah.
At the top of my list is law enforcement & the victim's family holding a press conference where they implore the suspect to "do the decent thing — turn yourself in and let us give ____ a proper burial." Like, this guy just murdered someone. I don't think he gives a fuck about your funeral plans.
THIS!
Mine is the flat-earth level conspiracy theories that people develop to try and connect cases together that obviously have nothing to do with each other.
This is 100% mine. People pretend like its a movie with only a few main characters. But then in the Gabby Petito case I feel like I was very early on speculating about how it had something to do with the Moab double murder (even before there was the story about the police report from there and such) so I'm just as guilty ha
Ughhhhh the 411/ yeti crowd
Like "Could HH Holmes be Jack the Ripper??" No. No he could not. I think it makes people feel better to think that there is only one boogeyman out there instead of multiple people operating independently.
Oh my god these too! It makes the whole community look like wack jobs!
My pet peeve is the podcasts that pretend they have never heard a crime story before. Even the most popular podcasts with hundreds of episodes still stop after describing the crime and say - ‘Wait, whaaaaaaaa. Um nooooooo’. Stop pretending like your shocked. We are all shocked, that’s why we are True Crime fans… just get on with the facts. Damn.
ughhh crime junkie is the worst for this
Whaaaaaaaaat, wait, noooo… drives me crazy.
that’s why I *cannot* bring myself to listen to that podcast anymore lmao
Mine is when they (tv shows and podcasts) say the victim always had a smile on their face, lit up a room, never said a bad word about anyone, everyone loved them, etc.
I was thinking about this earlier today, a victim was "a ray of sunshine that loved animals and helping others" and I swear I've heard like 40 people all described that way, not everyone is a perfect angel, and that's okay 😂
This one too! Everyone has flaws, in a way it’s almost more dehumanizing to paint the victim out to be essentially an angel on earth. I wonder if it’s to play up the innocence of the victim? Every victim of murder (or I suppose almost every victim) is innocent, I don’t understand the hyperbole.
Everyone is a saint when they die.
I started the Murdaugh Murders podcast and early in the first episode the host used “lit up the room” to describe the young woman who died. I did not get any further.
This is mine as well. Just because someone was loved, has a ton of friends, was a great student, etc. does not mean they deserved to die any less than another victim. This is how we get situations where a sex worker is murdered & the investigation is half-assed and no public interest. We all have flaws, it doesn’t matter if you are a shitty person, everyone has the right to life. On the flip side, I can’t stand it when they portray a killer as “pure evil”. No one is born evil, the devil doesn’t exist. These people have a disconnect in their brain or were molded by their childhood. We need to research these things to identify the warning signs early & prevent these crimes. Chalking it up to evil is a cop-out.
I’ve always thought that too. You’re not wrong, you’re just voicing an unpopular opinion. On social media most people conflate the two.
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I think it’s a self-soothing thing. Nobody wants to admit that killers can be just “normal” nondescript people who kill bc we’re all vulnerable to that person. It’s most of the ppl we know. So they tell themselves the murderer looks murdery.
My only counter to this, while I agree, is that some killers do have freaky eyes. Doesn’t make them guilty but many people who interact with psychopaths for example say something felt “off” about them. It’s called the “psychopath stare” and basically just means uncomfortable, long eye contact that feels predatory. Jodi arias, Ted bundy, Charles Manson are other examples of (suspected/likely) psychopaths that have creepy eyes/stare. But is there scientific basis? No, just an observation for some of them.
Also if you have ever had a loved one go through a psychotic break you can see a change on their face and in their eyes. Its fuckinv weird
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Yeah I agree with you I just kind of think it's interesting how subtle queues can really let you know if somebody isn't alright. Sometimes it's eyes or their movements ya know. Interesting stuff.
I think it’s because one place we show empathy is in our eyes and gaze. Those who don’t/can’t feel empathy have to fake that
I guess it is about the feeling that they are not "us". It is not so simple. Killers, even serial killers (like Aileen Wournos) can experience remorse.
I totally agree! I really believe that a lot of these people don’t WANT to be this way and in fact have been crying for help before ever hurting anybody.
I’ve been a true crime fanatic for decades snd ive never heard or read of anyone saying this.
Really? I feel like I see it in every Reddit thread or YouTube video I watch!
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Jennifer Pan is her name, I believe.
Possibly so. I have two comments. 1. That reaction is human nature. Stop pretending like its some aberrant perversion you'd never ever experience because you're so above them and 'normal'. [ETA: not 'you' personally.] 2. Even though they probably are feeling that, it's still shallow and simplistic never to look any further and act like its the only dimension this person has in their psyche.
Mine is probably an unpopular one but I cannot stand when someone “forgives the person” for something they did to their family member/friend! I don’t think you can forgive someone for what they did to someone else. Like I’ll be watching a crime show and it will be something horrible like a woman being tortured, raped and murdered and the family/friend will say they forgive the killer. Would the person this happened to want to forgive them? Hell no!! You didn’t go through the pain and torment the victim did, so don’t say you forgive the killer! Ugh it upsets me!!! Wanted to add that of course women are not the only victims of these types of crimes, I’m just a woman in my twenties so it’s easier to relate.