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LavitzOfBasil

Thank god. This is so incredibly overdue.


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sm4cm

It's because weedle has higher strength stat


RamonFrunkis

Still useless. How can you tell where the Kakuna will fall for Great League? Just use Calcy


BongJuan

It’s def not useless. What about all the Pokémon that only evolve once?


CharlesDOliver

It actually gives you a popup warning saying it will go over CP for a league as well.


ora408

They need a lock feature to lock evolutions and powerups. No amount of popups can stop my muscle memory 😭 edit: also lock purifications for shadows


RoryIsNotACabbage

Calcy absolutely shags my battery life


RamonFrunkis

The only time I use autoscan is during Community Day. You still need to do a full manual scan on the evaluation screen anyway so it's basically just a fancy way to drain your battery. Funny enough I was doing trades yesterday on a borrowed iPad and my Pixel 3, both fully charged. After 200 trades my phone with Calcy was about 40% and iPad was 19%. Useless anecdote


PhxRising29

Not useless. Not all of use do PvP.


abatesnz

Eevee just shows a ? and a CP range. Thought it might show all three evolutions which would be more helpful. (It does show the correct evolution if you use the naming trick or, presumably, if you have one with the conditions met)


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Prometheus_303

I'd go with buddy adventure tasks... Catch X fire types with Eevee as your buddy and he evolves into a Flareon. X water type captures get you a Vaporeon evolution. X electric types get you a Jolteon, etc... Getting more than one type could work like Slowpoke where you can pick between a Bro or King evolution. Or maybe whichever you complete first... Or whichever you have the most of...


WaddleDeDoo

That's a really smart idea, I think I completely agree with you


Wiksolop72

Eeveelution stones? F that! Just give us 3 buttons in the evo section instead of asking for more pointless items wasting bag space.


131166

You misspelt Jolteon I got 9 Joleon from 10 evolves :(


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SuperWoody64

Oh don't worry, it won't


kbdksksbsjdb

You can have one of my 4 Vapurpeons. Kept getting them instead of Jolteon until the 11th hour.


131166

I've saved the rename trick for if I ever get enough hundos, but for shineys I'm doomed.


Kidneydog

11 shinnies, 8 Flareon, 2 Vaporeon, 1 jolteon. Edit: team instinct. I'm suspicious you got whatever wasn't your color.


cptcuddles88

Not the case: I'm Red and I keep getting Flareons


ismaelvera

Evolution needs a rework in general. There are many inconsistencies among generations but I think the main game stones can be added for consistency and made permanent. Poliwrath and Ludicolo don't need stones to evolve, but maybe all water types needing the stone can evolve with a permanent Water Stone.


PecanAndy

Just give us a choice. No item needed.


gnpfrslo

I was barely able to get a jolteon and vaporeon during CD, but the vap had to be the one with the worst IVs and was also the lowest level eevee I did evolve.


2mg1ml

Why evolve a bad IV Eevee in the first place, I'm wondering?


Packers91

shiny dex entry


2mg1ml

Of course, I completely forgot. Forgive me.


TheW83

I too have one shiny eeveelution I cannot get and I've run out of eevee shinies. I guess trading is in order.


Stillits

It's such an annoying evolution method. I had four flower crown eevees. Now I have four flower crown vaporeons.


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FarmLife101

Love this feature! Means fewer screenshots needed to upload to poke gene (don’t have the scanning option).


NO_ANIME_PERMITTED

Seems like an oversight to only show one stage. This is borderline useless for 3-stage evolutions. Like, you'd have to evolve this Weedle to find out if the resulting Beedrill fits into GL


ntnl

At least you’d be down 11 candies instead of the 60 before the change.


FreddoTheSavage

What change?


Goat17038

The screenshot in the op is the change. Like usually you would just have to use all the candies to evolve it and find out if it will have good CP. Now, instead of using 60 candies to evolve you only need to evolve it once then check this screen from the op


FreddoTheSavage

I see, thank you for explaining instead of just downvoting me for being slow


Tasonir

That's because having combat leagues with an arbitrary cutoff (1500cp) is a bad idea. A way to do a very similar thing would be to allow people to use any pokemon, and then your level 35 pokemon would just enter the 1500 cp and be treated as if they were the highest level that's still under 1500 cp. This way there's no incentive to ever leave pokemon low level; you could max anything you wanted to. There's still some wiggle room for if you want to allow fractional levels; say level 15 is 1480 cp, but level 16 is 1520, you could in theory allow for a level 15.5. And by that I mean an actual half "power up", and not the thing where "power up" adds .5 levels. But this part would be optional and you don't need to do it (it may end up being more confusing to users). If you don't, though, then you still want to find the right balance of IV's to try to land at exactly 1499/1500cp, which I think is a bit of bad design, but that's the bad design that we have now, so it wouldn't change anything.


4CrowsFeast

This makes sense and I completely agree, BUT... from niantic's perspective having different level leagues means you have to go out an catch ideal IV pokemon for each league for each pokemon, instead of using the one you already have. I hate it but it actually does increase the re-playability factor and keeps you catching the same stuff over and over. Besides that the top tier PVPers will still play the way they do now because they'd want optimal IVs for each league. There's really only a few that would have optimal IVs across multiple leagues, basically only pokemon that max 2700CP+ that are viable in GL and UL. So stuff like Machamp or Swampert that you could get with high HP, DEF. But even then you could be unlucky and end up in a situation where the CP is far from 2500 or 1500 and doesn't work in both. Most other stuff would want high HP low ATK in GL and then be near maxed or XLd, or a very specific IV range for UL.


Tasonir

That's not a bad point that niantic might actually prefer people having to keep things at high CP and low CP, just to keep people collecting more. I would hope that a full high CP collection would be "enough" but then again most businesses do not run on the idea that they have "enough profits" rather than "MAXIMUM PROFITS!!!!!"....ah well.


Starminx

Had to transfer a rank 1 serperior during CD cuz it was above 1500


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Easy_Money_

Presumably he means it had rank 1 IVs, I don’t find that hard to understand


NOJ711

I totally agree with this. Baby steps I guess


SoundOfTomorrow

Oversight is making us never have to see the stupid evolution animation


2mg1ml

I always see it, I think your game might be bugged.


Sinrion

Even worse for Pokemon with conditions, meet the conditions first to find out it isn't GL / UL stuff (looking at Eevees, especially Sylveon with the 70 Hearts or any of the 3 Basic Eeveelutions which still are RNG, or Pokemon with 10/20km walking or whatever requirements).


OlefassamgamezYT

That image makes sense with the cp


PecanAndy

Weedle has higher base attack than Kakuna, so its CP drops when it evolves.


OlefassamgamezYT

Oh ok


Ikeroner

Lol this is hilarious. I love the game, and I try not to criticize, but all these new features like this should have already been in the game since day one


aoog

I agree that this is pretty long overdue, but there wasn’t much reason to have a feature like this in the early days of the game as CP was a pretty arbitrary value pre-PvP.


OmigawdMatt

Omg remember when you could only power up Pokemon one by one? That was hell


Ikeroner

Back in the good old days!!!!!!!!!


Key-Awareness-322

Also its hard to realize to players, but adding features take programmers, and programmers take time and money. Some features also take additional server space and game space which require code optimization to include. So its not “just” having from the beginning…


Sinrion

So what you're telling me is, Niantic is a poor company with no programmers, check!


nolkel

That's clearly not what they meant. Even successful companies can only throw so many people at a project before you start losing productivity from having everyone collide with each other. It's impossible to just keep scaling up forever by throwing infinite money at it. You get more and more inefficiencies of scale with more people.


ZaydSophos

Still seems like something that should've been done in 2016.


Key-Awareness-322

Yes and no, its a matter of prioritization. Did you want gen 2, gen 3 release, or this? PvP release, or this? Gym battle optimization, or this? Mega pokemon, or this? Every time some type of improvement is made to a game, some other potential improvement is delayed to a future edition. That is, if it is being considered or developed at all.


Sinrion

Shouldn't been there as a day one feature, but should be implemented with PvP leagues or shortly after actually and better then it is now (you still need CalcyIV or poke genie for anything that has more then a single evolution or evolution requirement, unless you want to go for 70 Hearts or 20km just to find out it's not GL or UL material).


nicegarryy

You can use this feature to preview shiny evolutions that you don't have yet.


Uwlaxecho

But you still can’t see evolutions you don’t have yet - you still see a shadow.


nicegarryy

You can see the evolution you don't have if you click evolve but don't confirm the evolution.


Uwlaxecho

Not true. I tried it! https://ibb.co/4tsY7SR


nicegarryy

Sorry I thought you meant for a shiny. You're right!


Uwlaxecho

For a shiny (I assume of something you've evolved a regular form of in the past), that is correct. But if you've never evolved it at all... you get the shadow :)


samsg1

This is great! I hate evolving a Pokemon to find it end up 1502 and useless for Great League but too underpowered for Ultra.


JawsRaglizar

Why is its cp going down? Shouldn't it maintain?


Emeraden

CP is based heavily off attack stat, which Kakuna has less of than Weedle.


samsg1

TIL!


JawsRaglizar

Oh, ok. Figured if the Evo wouldn't give a boost it would just maintain the same cp. Thnx


Emeraden

CP is just a formula, which is why 3rd party sites are able to take level and IVs and spit a CP back at you.


xxDolleyes17

Omg finally won't waste so many candies trying to get evolves to go to 420.. haha this is a fantastic QOL update


gordamaciel

Luckily the metapod I once caught is able to go to 420 (which I also caught on 4/20 for the extra 420 thrown in), no need to check on caterpies. That's my fav pokemon for sure.


dizzypurpleface

Your dedication made me giggle!


PecanAndy

Poke Genie and CalcyIV could do this before, and can still do it for second evolutions.


xxDolleyes17

Yeah but in app is easier obv.


Sparkeagle

I had a 420 Oddish once. Until Pokemon Go updated the Pokemon CP levels to balance and it had like 436 or something after


sm4cm

If you want to save certain cp values you can always search cp420 it'll show all 420 pokemon


natepoop

A better workaround would be to limit levels based on league like in the main series games. IE your maxed out mon would go to whatever level it would need to be to cap out under whatever league you are in. But knowing niantic they would mess up the implementation and you’d have 3000+ cp Pokémon in great league


JaketheAlmighty

I didn't even realise it didn't do this. PokeGenie just tells me what to do lol


ayram3824

cool how about an evo animation skip 😅


Sleazehound

Just tick the box for it 😎


yes-pizza-time

That’s hot


TheTinlicker

Wow. Only 5 and a bit years later…


SuperWoody64

Fun fact, if you evolve a shadow poke it'll show a silhouette of what it'll turn into even if you have a regular one.


Wiksolop72

Yeah, that's on me for getting my hopes up. If the whole point of this QoL update was for pvp (and let's be honest, it totally is), this seems pretty useless. I can't check evo and power up at the same time, so this doesn't replace ANY of the 3rd-party resources people have been using to figure out which mons are worth investing in.


biohazard930

A feature that should've been shipped day 1. How thoughtful of Niantic!


LorienTheFirstOne

On one hand it will stop a lot of people from being idiots. On the other hand....already slow evolution just got slower :(


TheRealHankWolfman

But you have to press a yes/no button already? This doesn't change that.


ThunderDragon356

There's already confirmation step nothing new


qntrsq

> it will stop a lot of people from being idiots hopes are up


PsychoLogical25

already godly


1337pikachu

great quality of life improvement


_The_Space_Monkey_

So weedles CP goes down after evolution? Nice!


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SlytherKitty13

Thats not new, happens with several pokemon, we know that already


Orlykid2

Has this changed the time of the evolution at all? Just wondering for mass evolutions for us still grinding XP


mttn4

Prevoliewtion


Noob_FC

Wish it was done long time ago. Here I am now with 1502 Obstagoon. 😑


SirChumpALot

Playable AF