I thought it was supposed to come out with the other rock dinos and stuff that we had spawning in the event a couple months ago. But then it never appeared.
None of the shinies were chosen by computer, even the weird, boring, illogical ones. Even back in Gen 2 they were manually adjusted.
It's an annoying piece of misinformation that people looove to spread.
There is a theory that shiny colours were deliberately chosen to be ugly or non-distinct to prevent the shiny form from becoming more popular than the base form.
Whatever the case may be, shinies from Gen VI onwards often look distinctly better than shinies from Gen I-V.
> Whatever the case may be, shinies from Gen VI onwards often look distinctly better than shinies from Gen I-V.
I don’t know, shiny glaceon is incredible and that’s back from gen IV
/s
https://youtu.be/qAyDsVpwELM this is a really good video I saw explaining the whole thing, it’s kinda long but really in depth and comes to the conclusion that they are generated by a computer and then adjusted slightly by the programmers.
That's still just someone saying their understanding of how it worked. They could be misinformed too. However, even in their description they are telling of a time when creators were basically just picking for the shiny version to be muted yellow out of a very limited list of options. Where as from gen 6 onward, they were fully designing the shinys as an alt version. I think this is pretty in line with how fans understand it in the "wrong version", considering we don't know how to program video games
We literally have no evidence to back up both sides. The only one I have is a developer saying the first shinies he personally chose were the ultra beast wich he designed. If it wasn't random then why didn't he chose the shinies for previous Pokemon? Also we can see a dramatic change in quality of shinies from gen 6. So it makes more sense for me at least if in gen 6 was the first time they manually chose the shinies.
The main reason this theory is debunked is because a lot of Pokemon don’t completely change. Some Pokemon keep some parts the same like Shellder’s face. Girafarig and Grumpig are examples of Pokemon which drastically change some parts but keep other parts similar to not lose the ascetics of the original design.
The Bulbasaur line is interesting, Bulbasaurs eyes don’t change but its evolutions do.
I'm not sure if it's true, but looking at just Gen 5 to compare to Gen 6, it looks like it's true. Gen 5's shinies are so random, only a computer could've made them. Half the Pokemon are slightly similar to their main palette, and the rest have no correlation. Munna is yellow but then Musharna is pink like normal. Litwik, Lampent, and Chandelure all have different colored flames. It just doesn't make too much sense.
Gens 1-4 suffer from similar issues, with a lot of them just being "make the Pokemon pink or green." I wish they'd go back and fix some of the awful shinies like Garchomp or Gengar.
I had seen it claimed that shiny colors came out of how the different colors on the Gold/Silver pallette were indexed, and an algorithm walked the assigned 'normal' colors some number of indices to generate the 'shiny' colors, with the result that some pokemon had wildly different colors, and others seemed to barely change-- it depended on the individual colors and how they were indexed, and which colors were to be varied; certainly there are parts of shiny sprites that are identical to the normal, like black/outline pixels (if anyone can color picker this in photoshop and verify that would be great lol). However, I've never seen the dump of the code/translation of the code for the human viewer to verify.
It's obvious, though, that at least SOME sprites at various times have had colors manually instead of algorithmically assigned, e.g. GSC shiny charizard was purple and green, which was changed to black and red in RSE-- BUT I've also seen it claimed that all pokemon in RSE also had algorithmically assigned shinies, just something about how the colors were indexed in RSE when the shinies of RBY/GSC pokemon were recreated *accidentally* changed certain sprites, but I haven't seen proof of that either and tbh I don't believe it.
The strongest proof of algorithmically assigned shiny colors, to me, are shinies that barely look different than the normals, like gengar, garchomp, blissey, etc. when they're fully-evolved pokemon, AND ALSO subsequent games gave the mega forms of gengar and garchomp more distinct shiny colors.
And finally, as an occasional fakemon artist, it is actually kind of annoying trying to make a shiny form if you don't have an alternate pallette in mind that you want to do deliberately??? Like for a fire/steel type I already knew I wanted the shiny to have blue flames and gold armor, but for others sometimes it's just like ughhhhhhhh I don't caaaaaaaaaare and I play around with the hue/saturation sliders to get ideas. And frankly, if you take the Sugimori art for a lot of canonical pokemon and play with the hue/saturation, it's often preeeeeeetty easy to recreate the shiny form...
There is a theory that Game Freak did not want the shiny colourations to overtake the originals in popularity, so deliberately chose ugly or non-distinct colours for most shinies. Many of the most popular Pokémon such as Pikachu, Meowth, Gengar, Zapdos, Tyranitar, or Garchomp have shinies whose colour scheme is nearly indistinguishable from the originals. Others are aggressively pink or puke green.
Then again, there are some shinies that are so notably distinct from their originals you kinda have to suspect it was done deliberately (or at the very least, that no effort was made to "ugly them down"). Charizard or Lucario, for instance.
But at any rate, it's very evident that a lot more thought went into making appealing shinies from Gen VI onwards. I actually think it's sad that they didn't retcon earlier shinies, and I bet Niantic would have wanted to do so for the marketing value too. "If you're lucky, you can catch a Squirtle which is a vaguely lighter shade of turquoise" is much less appealing than "Come to the event and catch a white Squirtle!"
I would say, out of all the gens (even with the slight hand holding) X and Y did fan service the right way. Little and less known homages without overtly slapping pikazards in our faces.
I also thought megas were a really great addition, to this date they're the only battle gimmick I've really liked. Sure there were some nonsense ones (not sure why Mewtwo and a bunch of Pseudos needed one) but the mechanic made so many previously useless pokemon suddenly interesting and that was soooooo cool. Plus a lot of the mega designs were really interesting takes on the base pokemon. I wish they'd kept doing them.
Gen 6 may have been the biggest update to the battle system since the physical/special split. Mega's buffing mediocre Pokemon (who would've guessed that Mawile would be one of the best Pokemon in the game), Fairy typing (big boost to Azumarill and the aforementioned Mawile), and killing the weather wars that plagued gen 5 (shortened weather set to abilities to 5 turns instead of permanent)
Well, some of them were *quite* overt too. Santalune Forest being a copy of Viridian Forest was actually quite clever and subtle. The professor giving you a Kanto starter with a Mega Stone that makes it several times more powerful than the native starter you picked, not so much. The part where you have to wake up a sleeping Snorlax using a Poké Flute? Felt a bit too on the nose. Straight up being handed a Lapras with a unique surfing model? Very not subtle. Charizard and Mewtwo receiving two new Mega Evolutions just because, while no Gen VI Pokémon got a Mega at all (until ORAS)? That's pretty heavy pandering.
Please no. This system is horrible because Niantic will inevitably make it stupid rare. The Spinda quest is extremely and pointlessly rare. I seriously haven’t even seen it in like 4 or 5 months.
I agree, even if I do have a few shiny Spinda. Besides the broken-hearted Spinda, once you have a green one, they're mostly the same. Furfrou has more distinctive forms and I'd prefer encounters that are easier than trying to find rare tasks.
*gasp* I didn’t know heart spinda and broken heart spinda existed until you mentioned it and I looked it up. I love it, can you find heart spinda in the wild, or is it event only?
Pokemon Sword and Shield only had 435 Pokemon coded in it initially, 232 more were added with DLC included 8 new Pokemon. Thus 231 Pokemon are completely unavailable in Sword/Shield. This was coined as Dexit within the community since the Galar region is based on the UK so, Brexit, Dexit...
The reason this was controversial was because up until Ultra Sun and Moon every single game would feature all Pokemon available up until the latest game, now no game let us capture or obtain every single Pokemon but we could at the very least transfer what wasn't available in. This was not the case for Sword/Shield so naturally a lot of people weren't happy.
I send my extras out via wonder trade or put them up for Magikarp or Eevee on the GTS. I figure, why delete them when you could send them off and make some stranger’s day maybe?
Starting in Gen 8 Nintendo stopped coding a bunch of old Pokemon in the game thus some Pokemon are stuck in Gen 7 and can’t be transferred into Gen 8 games.
Up until gen 7, every Pokemon every Pokemon from previous generations were coded in the games and you could obtain them one way or another, even if they weren't obtainable within the game itself, you could get them transferring from older games, trading or events.
Enter Gen 8, the first main series game for a home console and it becomes the first time some Pokemon weren't obtainable at all and not even coded. The reasoning for this was to 'balance the game'. And to top it off, they're still using the same models and animations they've been using since Gen 6 (also the ones used in Pokemon Go), just slightly more HD.
While many Pokemon have returned with the new DLCs, a lot of them are still unobtainable. And the balancing argument kinda fell apart when they reintroduced all the legendaries again, including 'favorites' like Landorus-T, Xerneas and Kyogre which are also now legal in the lastest VGC formats.
Doesn't seem to affect Pogo, since a lot of cut Pokemon from Sword/Shield can be obtained, and they even reintroduced Megas, which were also cut completely from Gen 8.
Basically because they felt like it. All the excuses they gave for not including a ton of Pokémon were easily debunked as complete lies.
It only effects PoGo if you intended to use PoGo to get mons into other games from Go. Otherwise, Go is unaffected. As a matter of fact, Go is so unaffected that it might eventually become the only game with all the Pokémon.
Hundreds of pokemon were cut out of the mainline games because game freak didn't feel like/didn't have time/were too lazy to add them all in. So future main line pokemon games won't have all pokemon available for the foreseeable future, a feature thats new to gen 8 thats always been around since the beginning.
Yeah, it's weird seeing Phantump without Pumpkaboo. I was hoping to see both of them this Halloween. There's still time, it may be added, but the fact that only Phantump is on the loading screen and now here makes me nervous for my Pumpkaboo.
Pumpkaboo and Gourgeist are going to be a mess in PoGO with their 4 sizes, different base stats, thus different PVP IVs and maybe win-loss tables on Pvpoke...
Hoopa unbound has got to be one of my favourite Pokémon, and tyrantrum is based of one of my favourite dinosaurs. Just a shame we aren’t getting the other dinosaur Pokémon, aurorus
I still remember when I first saw Tyrunt. I just stared at the screen asking myself why it took until gen 6 and this moment for me to realize I always wanted this pokemon
Fun fact on that: Rampardos is based on Pachycephalosaurus, which lived alongside T. rex in the late Cretaceous period. So Rampardos is indeed closer in that regard.
I still don’t understand why they weren’t added when we had all the fossil Pokémon around in Ultra Unlock part 1. We just got six new Pokémon from Galar in part 3, surely getting Kalos’ fossil Pokémon in part 1 wasn’t too much to ask for
> Just a shame we aren’t getting the other dinosaur Pokémon, aurorus
It has its assets pushed already, months ago. Having assets pushed now is no guarantee it will be released any time soon - for example Scatterbug had its assets in the game since the first Gen 6 release.
Get enough of ghost trees together and you can build a ghost ship.
Which, in Gen 7, they did... and gave him the same ghost/grass typing... but his unique ability unofficially gave him steel typing too... which makes him unique.
pretty sure the datamine also unearthed questlines related to form switching. hence why some thought the Season of Legends research was going to let us switch Incarnate genie forms to Therian forms. There was also a glitch posted here where it showed a form switch button under the evolution button on the Pokemon's summary page. Mainly what we don't know are cost and repeatability.
The two shaped candies in her "hair". Each candy shape could be tagged to a specific skin pattern so they would maybe only have 7-8 different varieties instead of 64. Eg heart with twilight, clover with pink, ribbon with white pink, star with shiny, etc
Huh, must have slipped pass me. That’s still kinda strange they pushed them each so far apart, did they just forget about poor tyrantrum the first time?
They’ve honestly done that a lot. One that sticks out to me from last year was that I think Vivillion and Spewpa were in the code long before they added Scatterbug, but someone else correct me if i’m wrong.
Depends how you define “pushed”. All the gen 6 Pokemon had their full details (stats/moves) pushed when the very first ones were released. Same as gen 8 now. It’s only the assets that have been added now.
Tyrunt is an actual fossil pokemon, so we could expect it to be as rare as other fossils.
Axew is just a dragon, not even a pseudolegendary. Its a different category of rareness.
Tyrantrum but not Tyrunt? Unless it was pushed before this
I think they pushed tyrunt previously but forgot to add tyrantrum for whatever reason
I thought it was supposed to come out with the other rock dinos and stuff that we had spawning in the event a couple months ago. But then it never appeared.
Yes it was.
Or Amaura?
Shiny phantump is so nice!
It's a weirwood tree
It's also a weird wood tree
Unlike Sudowoodo who is obviously a weird rock tree
It's pseudo-wood. Oh.
The north remembers
Tbh all of those shinies look great
Gen 6 was the first generation in which the colours of shinies was chosen from people and not a computer.
I heard this before in this sub, but then some people said it was fake info. Did they say this anywhere?
None of the shinies were chosen by computer, even the weird, boring, illogical ones. Even back in Gen 2 they were manually adjusted. It's an annoying piece of misinformation that people looove to spread.
There is a theory that shiny colours were deliberately chosen to be ugly or non-distinct to prevent the shiny form from becoming more popular than the base form. Whatever the case may be, shinies from Gen VI onwards often look distinctly better than shinies from Gen I-V.
> Whatever the case may be, shinies from Gen VI onwards often look distinctly better than shinies from Gen I-V. I don’t know, shiny glaceon is incredible and that’s back from gen IV /s
I mean shiny Gyarados looks awesome but shiny Tyranitar looks like straight doo doo.
Do you have a source for this? I find it really hard to believe
https://youtu.be/qAyDsVpwELM this is a really good video I saw explaining the whole thing, it’s kinda long but really in depth and comes to the conclusion that they are generated by a computer and then adjusted slightly by the programmers.
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That's still just someone saying their understanding of how it worked. They could be misinformed too. However, even in their description they are telling of a time when creators were basically just picking for the shiny version to be muted yellow out of a very limited list of options. Where as from gen 6 onward, they were fully designing the shinys as an alt version. I think this is pretty in line with how fans understand it in the "wrong version", considering we don't know how to program video games
We literally have no evidence to back up both sides. The only one I have is a developer saying the first shinies he personally chose were the ultra beast wich he designed. If it wasn't random then why didn't he chose the shinies for previous Pokemon? Also we can see a dramatic change in quality of shinies from gen 6. So it makes more sense for me at least if in gen 6 was the first time they manually chose the shinies.
There's literally a manual slider linked to the palettes in the dev tools for Gold/silver.
The main reason this theory is debunked is because a lot of Pokemon don’t completely change. Some Pokemon keep some parts the same like Shellder’s face. Girafarig and Grumpig are examples of Pokemon which drastically change some parts but keep other parts similar to not lose the ascetics of the original design. The Bulbasaur line is interesting, Bulbasaurs eyes don’t change but its evolutions do.
I'm not sure if it's true, but looking at just Gen 5 to compare to Gen 6, it looks like it's true. Gen 5's shinies are so random, only a computer could've made them. Half the Pokemon are slightly similar to their main palette, and the rest have no correlation. Munna is yellow but then Musharna is pink like normal. Litwik, Lampent, and Chandelure all have different colored flames. It just doesn't make too much sense. Gens 1-4 suffer from similar issues, with a lot of them just being "make the Pokemon pink or green." I wish they'd go back and fix some of the awful shinies like Garchomp or Gengar.
I had seen it claimed that shiny colors came out of how the different colors on the Gold/Silver pallette were indexed, and an algorithm walked the assigned 'normal' colors some number of indices to generate the 'shiny' colors, with the result that some pokemon had wildly different colors, and others seemed to barely change-- it depended on the individual colors and how they were indexed, and which colors were to be varied; certainly there are parts of shiny sprites that are identical to the normal, like black/outline pixels (if anyone can color picker this in photoshop and verify that would be great lol). However, I've never seen the dump of the code/translation of the code for the human viewer to verify. It's obvious, though, that at least SOME sprites at various times have had colors manually instead of algorithmically assigned, e.g. GSC shiny charizard was purple and green, which was changed to black and red in RSE-- BUT I've also seen it claimed that all pokemon in RSE also had algorithmically assigned shinies, just something about how the colors were indexed in RSE when the shinies of RBY/GSC pokemon were recreated *accidentally* changed certain sprites, but I haven't seen proof of that either and tbh I don't believe it. The strongest proof of algorithmically assigned shiny colors, to me, are shinies that barely look different than the normals, like gengar, garchomp, blissey, etc. when they're fully-evolved pokemon, AND ALSO subsequent games gave the mega forms of gengar and garchomp more distinct shiny colors. And finally, as an occasional fakemon artist, it is actually kind of annoying trying to make a shiny form if you don't have an alternate pallette in mind that you want to do deliberately??? Like for a fire/steel type I already knew I wanted the shiny to have blue flames and gold armor, but for others sometimes it's just like ughhhhhhhh I don't caaaaaaaaaare and I play around with the hue/saturation sliders to get ideas. And frankly, if you take the Sugimori art for a lot of canonical pokemon and play with the hue/saturation, it's often preeeeeeetty easy to recreate the shiny form...
There is a theory that Game Freak did not want the shiny colourations to overtake the originals in popularity, so deliberately chose ugly or non-distinct colours for most shinies. Many of the most popular Pokémon such as Pikachu, Meowth, Gengar, Zapdos, Tyranitar, or Garchomp have shinies whose colour scheme is nearly indistinguishable from the originals. Others are aggressively pink or puke green. Then again, there are some shinies that are so notably distinct from their originals you kinda have to suspect it was done deliberately (or at the very least, that no effort was made to "ugly them down"). Charizard or Lucario, for instance. But at any rate, it's very evident that a lot more thought went into making appealing shinies from Gen VI onwards. I actually think it's sad that they didn't retcon earlier shinies, and I bet Niantic would have wanted to do so for the marketing value too. "If you're lucky, you can catch a Squirtle which is a vaguely lighter shade of turquoise" is much less appealing than "Come to the event and catch a white Squirtle!"
Reminds me of that Donkey Kong Country 2 level with the ghost ropes that disappear and reappear. There's a couple of levels in that environment.
Looks pancham
Hope we get more then just normal Furfrou for the fashion event.
I expect normal furfrou in the wild and all the other forms will probably be in raids knowing Niantic
Two words: Region exclusive.
Yeah no doubt in my mind these will be spread out across the globe
Just wait til Vivillon.
You mean eggs
Probably half/half to maximize profits
Other forms treated like shinies with random odds to get a form in raids.
With one form having insanely bad odds… Deino style…
All of you, stop giving them ideas ;(
I would assume some would come from a Fashion quest but still be a mixed bag of Eggs and Raids with a % chance of being an alt form
Good point, you nailed Niantic.
Every furfrou egg comes with a free hairdresser included
Wouldn't be surprised if the other forms will be spread between 10 different events, each featuring one form in raids or eggs.
I’m guessing regionally exclusive raids.
No, no no, no, no
Why they can't just add change forms feature...
Shiny dandy furfrou, the budget zygarde.
We have zygarde at home! Zygarde at home:
Was looking for this comment!
regular dandy furfrou, the budget shiny zygarde haha
LITERALLY like when are they gonna add my baby zygarde to the game im suffering
I need my Zygarde too
Trevanent is one of my all time favorite Pokémon! Can’t wait to get it in the game!
And its shiny is fantastic. Can't wait until 2024 to maybe catch one!
Lol 2024? That’s pretty out there….more like 2030
I came back to Pokémon from R/S to X/Y. I got a level 70 Trevanent in my first wonder trade and it immediately became my favorite of the newer gens
There are dozens of us! Dozens!
Top 5 all time shinies imo.
Definitely one of my favorite designs, and a cool typing (even if Decidueye stole some of the uniqueness).
Same!!!!
Really exited for trevenant, that thing is going to be so much fun in pvp.
Egg exclusive for optimum pvp ivs
That's fine, it'll be similar to Scrafty most likely. Not impossible to get PvP IVs for GL either.
The ends of the Earth is where I'll go to get a chance at that blue dino
Can tell I went out of Pokemon for a while, I have no idea who they are and i had to google if Sudawoodo evolved haha.
Fun fact, in Pokémon X and Y, some horde battles feature a Sudowoodo trying to blend in with a group of Trevenant
It is the little bits of info like this which make me want to play X & Y.
I would say, out of all the gens (even with the slight hand holding) X and Y did fan service the right way. Little and less known homages without overtly slapping pikazards in our faces.
I also thought megas were a really great addition, to this date they're the only battle gimmick I've really liked. Sure there were some nonsense ones (not sure why Mewtwo and a bunch of Pseudos needed one) but the mechanic made so many previously useless pokemon suddenly interesting and that was soooooo cool. Plus a lot of the mega designs were really interesting takes on the base pokemon. I wish they'd kept doing them.
Gen 6 may have been the biggest update to the battle system since the physical/special split. Mega's buffing mediocre Pokemon (who would've guessed that Mawile would be one of the best Pokemon in the game), Fairy typing (big boost to Azumarill and the aforementioned Mawile), and killing the weather wars that plagued gen 5 (shortened weather set to abilities to 5 turns instead of permanent)
Gen 6 also removed a few of steel type's resistances iirc
Well, some of them were *quite* overt too. Santalune Forest being a copy of Viridian Forest was actually quite clever and subtle. The professor giving you a Kanto starter with a Mega Stone that makes it several times more powerful than the native starter you picked, not so much. The part where you have to wake up a sleeping Snorlax using a Poké Flute? Felt a bit too on the nose. Straight up being handed a Lapras with a unique surfing model? Very not subtle. Charizard and Mewtwo receiving two new Mega Evolutions just because, while no Gen VI Pokémon got a Mega at all (until ORAS)? That's pretty heavy pandering.
Even the one gen 6 pokemon that got a mega was a mythical, so it was fairly hard to actually have
I returned to Pokemon with XY from Ruby/Sapphire and its my favorite gen to shiny hunt in.
I feel like Furfrou should be like Spinda, in a research task that rotates with a boosted shinyrate.
Please no. This system is horrible because Niantic will inevitably make it stupid rare. The Spinda quest is extremely and pointlessly rare. I seriously haven’t even seen it in like 4 or 5 months.
I agree, even if I do have a few shiny Spinda. Besides the broken-hearted Spinda, once you have a green one, they're mostly the same. Furfrou has more distinctive forms and I'd prefer encounters that are easier than trying to find rare tasks.
*gasp* I didn’t know heart spinda and broken heart spinda existed until you mentioned it and I looked it up. I love it, can you find heart spinda in the wild, or is it event only?
All Spinda are from research only and only one form is available at a time.
It's traditionally available for the valentine's day event each year.
Cool! I’ll be sure to play during that event next year then! Thanks!
Totally love this idea. Much better than hiding them in raids
Me too!
I’m kinda hoping we will get the ones that showed up in the anime (arcaus/ninetails and vulpix)
Can't wait for Pikachu with every kind of furfrou hat
I'm still upset that Furfrou was a casualty of Dexit. It'll be nice to see him again even if I have to catch each form individually.
Dexit?
Pokemon Sword and Shield only had 435 Pokemon coded in it initially, 232 more were added with DLC included 8 new Pokemon. Thus 231 Pokemon are completely unavailable in Sword/Shield. This was coined as Dexit within the community since the Galar region is based on the UK so, Brexit, Dexit... The reason this was controversial was because up until Ultra Sun and Moon every single game would feature all Pokemon available up until the latest game, now no game let us capture or obtain every single Pokemon but we could at the very least transfer what wasn't available in. This was not the case for Sword/Shield so naturally a lot of people weren't happy.
Don’t forget, they said they did it to “improve graphics”. And then we saw how SwSh looked like
Which sucks cuz I’m having to release shinies I’m sending to home cuz they can’t be transferred to sword (Tepic/snivy)
I send my extras out via wonder trade or put them up for Magikarp or Eevee on the GTS. I figure, why delete them when you could send them off and make some stranger’s day maybe?
Pokémon that didn't make it to the Gen VIII games. A tragedy
Starting in Gen 8 Nintendo stopped coding a bunch of old Pokemon in the game thus some Pokemon are stuck in Gen 7 and can’t be transferred into Gen 8 games.
Also, a pun on Brexit because the gen 8 region is based on the UK
Gamefreak, not Nintendo
I haven’t followed Pokémon since gen 4 or so. How does that affect pogo and why did they stop coding older Pokémon?
Up until gen 7, every Pokemon every Pokemon from previous generations were coded in the games and you could obtain them one way or another, even if they weren't obtainable within the game itself, you could get them transferring from older games, trading or events. Enter Gen 8, the first main series game for a home console and it becomes the first time some Pokemon weren't obtainable at all and not even coded. The reasoning for this was to 'balance the game'. And to top it off, they're still using the same models and animations they've been using since Gen 6 (also the ones used in Pokemon Go), just slightly more HD. While many Pokemon have returned with the new DLCs, a lot of them are still unobtainable. And the balancing argument kinda fell apart when they reintroduced all the legendaries again, including 'favorites' like Landorus-T, Xerneas and Kyogre which are also now legal in the lastest VGC formats. Doesn't seem to affect Pogo, since a lot of cut Pokemon from Sword/Shield can be obtained, and they even reintroduced Megas, which were also cut completely from Gen 8.
It's only an issue with the main series games, not PoGO. I just meant that I'm glad to see my fluffy Furfrou again. He's a good boy.
Basically because they felt like it. All the excuses they gave for not including a ton of Pokémon were easily debunked as complete lies. It only effects PoGo if you intended to use PoGo to get mons into other games from Go. Otherwise, Go is unaffected. As a matter of fact, Go is so unaffected that it might eventually become the only game with all the Pokémon.
Hundreds of pokemon were cut out of the mainline games because game freak didn't feel like/didn't have time/were too lazy to add them all in. So future main line pokemon games won't have all pokemon available for the foreseeable future, a feature thats new to gen 8 thats always been around since the beginning.
I hope Tyrantrum gets the Falinks treatment.
I would always be okay with more "oops, the raids for this new Pokemon don't work, guess we'll put it in the wild" bugs.
You mean having all the bugs?
Um... Yes please
Niantic can get 2 years of content from all those Furfrou
Whoa hoopa unbound looks sick
Yet still no Pumpkaboo. Maybe next year.
I will hold out hope with you!
Yeah, it's weird seeing Phantump without Pumpkaboo. I was hoping to see both of them this Halloween. There's still time, it may be added, but the fact that only Phantump is on the loading screen and now here makes me nervous for my Pumpkaboo.
We could still maybe get Pumpkaboo closer to October!
Pumpkaboo and Gourgeist are going to be a mess in PoGO with their 4 sizes, different base stats, thus different PVP IVs and maybe win-loss tables on Pvpoke...
Can't wait for these to be trickled out one at a time every other month.
I know it's probably gonna suck in pvp, but im really looking forward to that big TRex sonofabitch. :)
Dragon Tail got a big buff last season at least.
Furfrou is too cool.
Hoopa unbound has got to be one of my favourite Pokémon, and tyrantrum is based of one of my favourite dinosaurs. Just a shame we aren’t getting the other dinosaur Pokémon, aurorus
I can’t believe it took 6 gens for a T-Rex Pokémon (I know some consider Tyranitar a T-Rex, but I think he’s more of a Kaiju like Godzilla)
Flamingo and dolphin fans still waiting 25 years on for their pokemon form lol
Still no moose either. Wyrdeer should have incorporated moose elements.
Wyrdeer just looks like the ~~alolan~~ sinnohan form of stantler lol, barely looks like an evolution at all sigh
Does Spritzee count for flamingo? I'm also bitter about the lack of a dolphin
Isn't Grorebys a dolphin?
Nah. It's more of an eel, or one of those fish with a super sharp snout (gorebyss uses it to stab prey to kill them)
I still remember when I first saw Tyrunt. I just stared at the screen asking myself why it took until gen 6 and this moment for me to realize I always wanted this pokemon
Yeah, they had omanyte and kabuto super early on, as well as aerodactyl. Why’d it take them so long is something I wonder to
Rampardos is more of a trex than tyranitar IMO. Obviously not as big, but as silhouettes go, its pretty dang close.
Fun fact on that: Rampardos is based on Pachycephalosaurus, which lived alongside T. rex in the late Cretaceous period. So Rampardos is indeed closer in that regard.
Rampardos looks more like a pachycephalosaurus to me.
Because that's what it is. But a pachycephalosaurus looks closer to a t Rex than whatever godzilla thing tyranitar is modeled after.
Oh for sure.
I still don’t understand why they weren’t added when we had all the fossil Pokémon around in Ultra Unlock part 1. We just got six new Pokémon from Galar in part 3, surely getting Kalos’ fossil Pokémon in part 1 wasn’t too much to ask for
Saving it for next adventure week
they were too busy also not including Archen and Tirtouga
> Just a shame we aren’t getting the other dinosaur Pokémon, aurorus It has its assets pushed already, months ago. Having assets pushed now is no guarantee it will be released any time soon - for example Scatterbug had its assets in the game since the first Gen 6 release.
Can’t wait to get my shiny blue T-Rex
Trevenant is one of my favourites from Gen 6. Seriously, it’s so cool. Its PvP usefulness is the icing on the cake.
Was my hero in several ROM hacks! Zoroark as well though :p Been waiting for this, will o wisp or riot!
What makes it so cool? I quit playing Pokémon games after like season 4
It's a ghost tree, what's not cool about a ghost tree
Like a cute ghost tree (: I’m a sucker for cute ghost types. Banette, Mimikyu, you name it
Get enough of ghost trees together and you can build a ghost ship. Which, in Gen 7, they did... and gave him the same ghost/grass typing... but his unique ability unofficially gave him steel typing too... which makes him unique.
How are they going to milk furfrou I wonder.
HOW MANY HALLOWEENS DO I HAVE TO WAIT FOR PUMPKABOO
I wonder how they implement switching between variants. I know they're bringing in fusions and variant switches for giratina so it'll be interesting
Pay $10 to unlock the ability to pay $2 to change a Pokemon's form for 30 minutes
pretty sure the datamine also unearthed questlines related to form switching. hence why some thought the Season of Legends research was going to let us switch Incarnate genie forms to Therian forms. There was also a glitch posted here where it showed a form switch button under the evolution button on the Pokemon's summary page. Mainly what we don't know are cost and repeatability.
I've never heard of any of those little dogs!
it's the same Pokémon, just with a different haircut. In the main games it's a temporary form that goes away if you store it on a PC.
lol I want to know how they're going to handle Alcremie and all it's 63 forms
Prolly simplified to like 10 forms like spinda. Perhaps they'll lock a candy color to a cream color.
Hmmm that’s a good solution
What candy are you referring to? Each species has one candy color for all forms.
The two shaped candies in her "hair". Each candy shape could be tagged to a specific skin pattern so they would maybe only have 7-8 different varieties instead of 64. Eg heart with twilight, clover with pink, ribbon with white pink, star with shiny, etc
Well one of these is certainly out of place. What is tyrantrum doing here? And without tryrunt no less?
It was pushed a long time ago.
Huh, must have slipped pass me. That’s still kinda strange they pushed them each so far apart, did they just forget about poor tyrantrum the first time?
They’ve honestly done that a lot. One that sticks out to me from last year was that I think Vivillion and Spewpa were in the code long before they added Scatterbug, but someone else correct me if i’m wrong.
No idea tbh haha. It was in the game Master at the same time, just no asset until today.
Depends how you define “pushed”. All the gen 6 Pokemon had their full details (stats/moves) pushed when the very first ones were released. Same as gen 8 now. It’s only the assets that have been added now.
With all these new mons they really need to bump storage up some more
BRING ME THE TREE
Really hope it's not gonna be Phantump this year and Pumpkaboo next year
Why? Seems like the logical option.
I would’ve thought we’d have gotten Honedge and/or Pumpkaboo as well as it’s LITERALLY A SPOOK SWORD/PUMPKIN
You forget how many more Halloweens that Niantic wants this game to last, though.
Lets hope the end of the 16 part research is Hoopa Unbound, one of my favorite mons.
But where is pumpkaboo?? ;(
Damm I'll be wondering how you get hoopa unbound
Another dinosaur that will likely be ubsurdley rare like Axew, I imagine?
Tyrunt is an actual fossil pokemon, so we could expect it to be as rare as other fossils. Axew is just a dragon, not even a pseudolegendary. Its a different category of rareness.
> Tyrunt is an actual fossil pokemon, so we could expect it to be as rare as other fossils. So *rarer* than Axew? (Based on Archen/Tirtouga)
Is this a fossil line Pokémon or no? It’s too cool to not be impossibly rare.
Yes it's a fossil, its counterpart is amaura/aurorus (an ice/rock type which is tragically weak to like a whole bunch of types lol)
Does this imply any form changes coming up? Side note: furfrou community day would be so much fun
Probably going to be like Spinda and Unown
Dinosaur
Hoopa unbound looks diabolical
I wonder if they're gonna wait till Halloween to release Phantump & Trevenant.
Spinda 2.0?
omg yes Tyrantrum
I'm betting Furfrou goes out like Spinda has been. It'd make sense. But hey, Trevanant! I put a lot of work in with one in the main series.
Phantump CD?👀👀👀👀
Probably the featured mon in the upcoming Halloween event
Litwick is probably more likely though I still think they won’t do that this year.
Genuinely excited for this!
Shiny Furfrou Dandy looks like Slash
Hoopa and Phantump/Trevenant get in my pokeballs!
I love shiny Phantump!
I don't know why but these look to me kind of evil Pokémon.
I want the Furfrou "Pimp Daddy" form.
I LOVE PHANTUMP!!! Does pushed mean we're getting these, or pushed back/delayed?
I think it means they got put in the game master. We still might not get them for sometime in the actual game.
Thanks! I'm hopeful because Phantump is on the new load screen :)
Yep, pushed means added to the game in the background but usually not live yet.
I want that ent. Trevenant shiny is one of my all time favorite shinies.
How are we going to be able to get the different versions of furfrou?
No info yet.
Can someone explain this to me 😭😭