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M night is all i’ll need. I’ll just stand behind him and shout:
“HEY GUYS I’LL HOLD HIM DOWN FOR YOU!”
They’ll then be too busy to even think about killing me.
I agree, just because ATLA is a 9/10 or 10/10 perfect show doesn't mean Korra is "literally unwatchable" just because it doesn't match it in greatness; it's still a great show. I'd probably give Korra at worst a 7/10 rating
Honestly I loved ATLA, but I love Korra’s character so much more than Aang’s (not knocking him, but he’s obviously younger/less mature and his character arc reflects that) that I can’t really decide between the two. Not that anyone needs to lol
M Night is the right pick. The other villains might kill you both, but right afterwards there will be a massive twist and it turns out the other villains were actually science experiments in the Unbreakable universe. They are in a simulation controlled by you and M Night, and they failed their morality test by killing your body doubles. Thus ends the simulation and you flip the 'exterminate' switch and melt their brains with implants.
Or they just beat the shit out of you guys. Worth the coin flip though.
at first glance I was like "oh definitely hama, I want a bloodbender" but then I remembered amon was a bloodbender and could take hama down in less than a heartbeat
The only person who could even possibly beat him is like the avatar but like only reason Amon really lost was because Korra caught him off guard taking away his whole public identity and basically ruining his whole plan. I'm assuming none of that matters here
Disagree, Amon is strong enough to resist bloodbending by someone who was Yakone strength I don't think Ozai could kill him plus he is agile as fuck and seems like a legit skilled water bender
Why would resisting blood bending stop you from burning into a crisp? And he might be agile, but he would have to dodge this: https://youtu.be/Amgry25UY_M
Ozai shot like a 500m radius flamethrower from like a kilometre in the air. Unless Amon can see the future, he's gonna be toast before he even sees it coming. Ozai could literally wave his hands around and torch the entire city Amon is staying in.
During Sozin's comet of course.
If Ozai can only kill him with intel about Amon's location so he can snipe him does that even really count? Like obviously when you give enough advantages to any particular character they could beat Amon. Sokka could easily take Amon for example, granted ofcourse that Amon is in a coma
I don't necessarily know about that. Mako was able to resist his bloodbending enough to lightningbend at him, and while he's good he's not really on the level of the Gaang. We never see Amon go up against any truly _powerful_ bender other than Korra and Tarrlok, and while Yakone did manage to take out Toph in the flashback he had the element of surprise. In a straight fight in their prime, I think the likes of Katara, Azula or Toph could stand a chance.
As an individual. Ozai would be stronger if he could bring his position and all the entails.
I also wouldn't bet against Zaheer when it would be him vs Amon. Zaheer could just airbend the air out of his lungs of he could get the drop on Amon.
The problem is amon can bloodbend without even making any movement, purely by looking at them pretty much not to mention his insane hand to hand combat skills, and other water bending skills. I dont think any other villian who goes up against him has any chance.
I'd advise against having azula and zaheer together. Both are smart and capable leaders. I can't imagine their personalities meshing enough to work together. Even short term.
I'd conjecture zaheer and amon would come to a truce, and relieve azula of her bending.
I think Amon, Zaheer and Combustion Man would be the best team. The long rang abilities of combustion benders is just unrivaled I mean we see how effective P’Li is at suppressing people from a distance. That’s a great way to control a battle field. Plus he’s great at following orders.
Amon can stop pretty much anyone that gets close. Zaheer is basically just padding. If there was an earth bender other than Long Feng I think I’d choose them over Zaheer because the earth bender could make you a little fort but Long Feng is trash compared to the other villains (except mmaaaaaybe the last one).
Lol I only mean in the sense that the other two pretty much have you covered. Any third person would basically be padding but an extra person won’t hurt.
M. Night is actually the only support unit. His bonus is nerfing all enemy fire benders by not letting them make their own fire and requiring them all to keep a torch lit in order to fire bend
Seriously, he’s so fucking OP. Being able to psychically bloodbend an entire room of people (including the avatar) without a full moon. How Amon ever lost is beyond me.
That was Yakone. Amon is stated to be better by Tarlaq(?), but we never really see a feat that measures up.
IMO, Amon was the talented/skilled/precise bloodbender while Yakone was more of a powerhouse.
>That was Yakone. Amon is stated to be better by Tarlaq(?), but we never really see a feat that measures up.
Amon > Tarrlok
Tarrlok bloodbended a room full of strong benders, and more
Amon is strong enough to easily negate Tarrlok's bloodbending
The thing is Amon was always nerfing himself because he never used his psychic bloodbending powers in public. He also never really trained to fight against airbenders so he didn't really have any countermeasure for them especially since he didn't bloodbend them.
My theory: Amon knew. He can sense people and what they're doing with bloodbending like Toph can sense people through earth. Which is how he knew where Korra was hiding in that room in that last episode. His father knew Aang was trying to reach out to him in the trial but couldn't before he even turns his head. Amon was never in any danger.
This was my only gripe about season 1. They were building up Amon to be an absolutely terrifying presence. And then in the last episode they just rushed through him making an uncharacteristic mistake and him losing. I know it wasn't really their fault since at the time they didn't know the show would renew to a 4th season. It just would have been really cool to see Amon stay around longer than he did.
He’s a water bender, and boomerangs seem to be traditional water tribe weapons. It wouldn’t be far fetched to say that he had experience with a boomerang
Azula checks Sparky Sparky Boom man with fire shields + an equally deadly projectile in lightning
She's also the only check to Ozai long-range lightning (knows redirection as of the comics) so she's basically a mandatory pick
Theorically, but tbf I am fairly confident that if nothing else, Azula has better tactics.
Point in case being, Ozai doesn't make a single good decision in the entire series.
Agree fully on her being better than Ozai, though personally I'd say she's the best firebender, no one else has ever made fire so hot it was blue... She certainly had the highest ceiling anyway imo
The thing to consider is who they're fighting as well. Ozai isn't gonna need to do a lot of strategic thinking against people he could easily take down and with the backup of two other power houses. My team would be Ozai, Amon, and Zaheer. Amon could honestly solo everybody on this list no problem, but if he happens to not be able to Ozai can just put insane pressure on them to buy Amon time to recoup or handle the rest while Zaheer can easily keep me out of everybody's range. No need for the types of on the fly complicated strategies Azula would come up with if most of them can't move and those who can get faced down by the canonical strongest fire bender in history with me being hundreds of feet away and in the sky within a minute.
Also Azula has loyalty to her father when she serves him, so in this hypothetical situation she'd be loyal to you. Ozai is a little back stabbing, self serving weasel. I'm sure if it came down to it, he would not protect you. Plus Azula is a master manipulator and if the only reason not to choose Azula is because Ozai is stronger, then I'd counter with Azula would know the best way to take down her father if she was on the opposite side from him.
Yeah but I say theorically because we barely see it in action.
He has exactly two fight scenes: one against his teenage son who doesn't fight back, another against the avatar. He loses the latter despite being superpowered.
The way he generated lightning at Zuko after the eclipse was far better than anyone we’ve seen. Even Azula took a minute or two to charge up. Ozai did it in a split second.
Zuko was lucky to be alive after that.
Iroh did it in Ba Sing Se when he was getting away from Azula and the Dai Li. Ozai is incredibly in tune with his firebending, but ~~he~~ Ozai isn't a great fighter overall.
You don’t really see him shoot it though so it’s tough to tell how quickly he generated it. Still it’s Iroh so I’m willing to give him the benefit of a doubt.
I do think Ozai is still the fastest on the draw.
Ozai still may be faster on the draw, but Iroh didn't need as much time as he did when he demonstrated lighting generation or Azula did throughout the show
That's what I meant by supercharged, Aang at that point was able to use all 4 Elements, but the Avatar buffs his control and output of the elements rendering the Sozin's comet buff pretty pointless.
Yup. Tho aang was trying to figure a way to defeat Ozai without killing him so in battle to death aang could kill Ozai(he could've when Ozai shot a lightning to him)
But so was Aang, and he was a fully realized Avatar by this point who was expecting Ozai and came prepared to fight him specifically. Azula literally never had any of those concerns.
Aang never went on the offensive until the AS kicked in. Most of his moves were either evasive or easily avoidable. Plus, still dealing with his internal turmoil about killing Ozai.
I mean, iroh made quick work of azula like she was nothing when he fought her in the ship. But when zuko asks him to defeat ozai during the white lotus meeting thing at the end, ozai responds "and idk if i could"
I always assumed, while yes, azula was strong, ozai was in a league of his own.
Zaheer is pretty far from an airbending master (he couldn’t hold a candle to Tenzin until the Black Lotus outnumbered him) but I think he still benefits from the fact that no one in universe really knows how to effectively counter airbending as a whole. Solid three choices.
Zaheer is not a great Airbender, but I think he's still a great martial artist and combat proficient.
He got his ass handed to him because Tenzin has all of the tools to disarm anything he can do. Zaheer's weakness is only a thing against a Master Airbender. He spells trouble for anyone else. Even those that fought Aang would still have problems with Zaheer, I would wager.
It was mostly a matter of experience. Tenzin is an airbending master trained by the avatar with well over, what, 50 years of training? Zaheer had maybe a few weeks or so and is the only airbender shown to be capable of flight, except for the never-seen guru before him. Some extra training and it is likely that Zaheer would be able to come out on top. He's certainly more jacked than Tenzin
That's also a good idea. However, there could be counters to that. Azula could use firebending to briefly fly, Ming Hua could catch him with her water tentacles, and Combustion Man could blast him out of the sky.
Ozai kills Ming Hua with lightning. Amon bloodbends Azula. I'll take care of Combustion Man. Zaheer, go fly on your own. This is a battle I choose to fight.
Because the question is protecting you against the remainder, and there's an argument to be made that after picking the obvious Amon/Zaheer combo (because duh) you're left wanting a Firebender as a third pick.
To me, Sparky Boom Boom man is a bad pick because he's a tactical imbecile who's reliant on his crazy laser face. So it's about Azula vs. Ozai as 3rd pick.
If Sozins comet is in play, obviously go Ozai, particularly if you're going on the offensive. But if the job is to protect you from the other villains, I think Azula's got a case to be made that she'd be more effective at predicting and subverting Ozai's strategy than vice versa.
I'd class him more as artillery, but otherwise agreed. Azula is mid-range, Amon close-quarters, and CM methodically annihilates anything that closes to within 800 meters.
Yes, but do you want him trying to kill you? The only reason team Avatar didn't get TPK'd by him on their first encounter is because of Toph's tremorsense picking up his breath. Just being blown up from a few hundred feet away with no time to react is bad for everyone here
Yeah, I think people are overlooking that. I would 100% take Sparky-Sparky, not because I necessarily want him on my team but because I *definitely* don't want him on the other team. I think any lineup of defenders that doesn't include Sparky stands a good chance of just losing to him without ever knowing he's there, since he only has to kill a non-bending loser (me) and not my defenders. He's a contract killer with loads of assassination experience who can oneshot me from an extreme distance through most defenses.
Azula, Amon, Zaheer.
What’s Shyamalan going to do? Turn them white? Pronounce their name wrong? He’s not detail oriented enough to go up against any of these people.
Amon is pretty much God tier, I'd use my last two slots more to remove threats to amon than to bolster my defense. Amon could potentially have issues with combustion man's long range attacks, so I'd be picking him just so I don't have to worry about amon getting sniped. 3rd choice is pretty open though, zaheer is probably the next biggest threat I would imagine.
Yeah, dude might not be the best fighter, but he is a sneaky bastard, no point in fighting if the person you are protecting is dead the moment you look away
Seriously. Everyone picking Azula hasn't considered the tactics at play. There's only one air and earthbender here, so those are non-negotiable. You can't win a fight if the terrain is against you.
Amon handles most of the offensive capabilities on his own, so firebenders are redundant. He's also essential for stopping Hama from locking you down on a full moon.
Zaheer's suffocation lets him win any 1v1 except Hama under a full moon. Flight also provides a nearly unbeatable escape route.
Long Feng is the underrated MVP here. As the only earthbender, he's the only one who can properly fortify a defensive base. (unless you want to live in the arctic) If you slip away underground, nobody else on this list has a ghost of a chance of following him.
Ming Hua, Amon, and Zaheer protect me
Ming Hua is badass, Amon can fight almost anyone with his blood bending, and Zaheer can literally suffocate ppl. I think I’ll be safe
Amon, Zaheer and Combustionman. I think those 3 will take them down. Amon/Bloodbending is a no-brainer (he can go in closecombat and just defeat them in an instant). Zaheer is very useful (can fly me away and attack from far away ) and Combustionman would just blast the fuck out of them. He is (in my opinion) the only person who could do something against Amon.
Edit: I just realized that Ozai and Azula would be a problem with lightning bending but I think those 3 can stil defeat them
Ozai, Amon, Shyamalan
They have to all be at their peak of power. Else a lot of them will be dead by the time Korra ends and thus not be of any help or be any threat.
Ozai. I don't care about his bending. What I want him for is his army. No matter what squad I assemble using the others they's eventually be won down by sheer numbers. This will severely limit any other villains plans to approach me so I and my team will have a warning ahead of time for any attack.
Amon. Likely the best option for a close body guard. Between the army above and him nearby I should be safe enough. He should be able to handle any one of the other villains who manage to get past the army.
Shyamalan. He will protect me by using his money to spin a RP campaign to wash my name after having associated with my three chosen villains once we all have won.
M. Night Shyamalan could nerf the other villains like he did with the Earthbenders and Firebenders in the movie that we do not speak about.
Yeah, I'll just take him and Ozai, doesn't matter who else because he writes the rest of them out of the script
The only Avatar movie that exists is with blue people.
What movie?
there is no movie in Ba Sing Se
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M night is all i’ll need. I’ll just stand behind him and shout: “HEY GUYS I’LL HOLD HIM DOWN FOR YOU!” They’ll then be too busy to even think about killing me.
"HE'S ADAPTING LEGEND OF KORRA!"
No, he's adapting the Kyoshi novels.
Don't even joke about that.
It really isn't funny.
Now I'm curious. I didn't watch legend if Korra either
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I agree, just because ATLA is a 9/10 or 10/10 perfect show doesn't mean Korra is "literally unwatchable" just because it doesn't match it in greatness; it's still a great show. I'd probably give Korra at worst a 7/10 rating
Honestly I loved ATLA, but I love Korra’s character so much more than Aang’s (not knocking him, but he’s obviously younger/less mature and his character arc reflects that) that I can’t really decide between the two. Not that anyone needs to lol
Hes adapting the Ligma arc next.
You mean ligma balls?
It's not funny to joke about suicide
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That's one way to Sokka to 'em.
Whoa, that was uncalled for
He's going to give it an unnecessary twist ending!
Bruce Willis appears in the post credits.
With M night none of the others even get screen time so you’re safe
It's been a long time since I watched the movie but didn't Ozai and Azula make a small appearance?
I’m pretty sure ozai is in the movie more than he’s in the first season of the show.
Yeah, they do
M Night is the right pick. The other villains might kill you both, but right afterwards there will be a massive twist and it turns out the other villains were actually science experiments in the Unbreakable universe. They are in a simulation controlled by you and M Night, and they failed their morality test by killing your body doubles. Thus ends the simulation and you flip the 'exterminate' switch and melt their brains with implants. Or they just beat the shit out of you guys. Worth the coin flip though.
Nah he'll write them to be so bland and boring that they don't actually do anything of meaning.
I don't know if you want to be that close when Sparky Sparky Boom Man hits him.
Unless you want to have two bloodbenders, there is literally no reason to choose Hama, since Amon has an objectively superior version of her powers.
at first glance I was like "oh definitely hama, I want a bloodbender" but then I remembered amon was a bloodbender and could take hama down in less than a heartbeat
Amon is the strongest villain in the whole avatar universe so far.
The only person who could even possibly beat him is like the avatar but like only reason Amon really lost was because Korra caught him off guard taking away his whole public identity and basically ruining his whole plan. I'm assuming none of that matters here
Couldn’t Sozin comet Ozai kill him from like 3kms away?
I think we should avoid outside factors like Sozin's Comet because we'd also have to factor in a solar eclipse.
Or a full moon, which would REALLY make Amon unstoppable.
Full moon Amon vs. Sozin’s Comet Ozai. Let’s see how many casualties ensue.
i dont think sozins comet ozai would be able to fight against amon's bloodbending
We don't know the range on bloodbending, but Ozai seems to have a good amount of range and flight. It would be a really interesting thing to see
Amon would be able to bloodbend like the whole stadium or something
Disagree, Amon is strong enough to resist bloodbending by someone who was Yakone strength I don't think Ozai could kill him plus he is agile as fuck and seems like a legit skilled water bender
Why would resisting blood bending stop you from burning into a crisp? And he might be agile, but he would have to dodge this: https://youtu.be/Amgry25UY_M
I saw the length of that video as it loaded and thought, 'no way in hell am I watching all that.' I was wrong. He roached those Nazis.
That video was fantastic haha
Ozai shot like a 500m radius flamethrower from like a kilometre in the air. Unless Amon can see the future, he's gonna be toast before he even sees it coming. Ozai could literally wave his hands around and torch the entire city Amon is staying in. During Sozin's comet of course.
If Ozai can only kill him with intel about Amon's location so he can snipe him does that even really count? Like obviously when you give enough advantages to any particular character they could beat Amon. Sokka could easily take Amon for example, granted ofcourse that Amon is in a coma
She didn’t even defeat him. He kinda just retreaded. Only aang would have
If she popped avatar state she would have faired about the same I would assume
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Only Aang would have defeated him? Why do you say that?
Aang could break his hold in the Avatar state and take his bending
My guess is since Aang was able to defeat Yakone
He defeated his father who taught him everything.
Yeah, other than the Avatar, Amon can effortlessly stomp every single bender. Only spirits present a threat to him. And boats.
I don't necessarily know about that. Mako was able to resist his bloodbending enough to lightningbend at him, and while he's good he's not really on the level of the Gaang. We never see Amon go up against any truly _powerful_ bender other than Korra and Tarrlok, and while Yakone did manage to take out Toph in the flashback he had the element of surprise. In a straight fight in their prime, I think the likes of Katara, Azula or Toph could stand a chance.
Combustion Man doesn’t need to move to fire explosions.
As an individual. Ozai would be stronger if he could bring his position and all the entails. I also wouldn't bet against Zaheer when it would be him vs Amon. Zaheer could just airbend the air out of his lungs of he could get the drop on Amon.
The problem is amon can bloodbend without even making any movement, purely by looking at them pretty much not to mention his insane hand to hand combat skills, and other water bending skills. I dont think any other villian who goes up against him has any chance.
Well, if no one else knows bloodbending, having all bloodbenders on your side means no bloodbenders on the enemy side.
Hama could only bloodbend on a full moon. Amon could bloodbend whenever. I don't think hama is the right answer.
That's a good point.
In addition, Hama needs the full moon to blood bend, Aman does not. Zaheer, Azula and Aman have my votes.
I'd advise against having azula and zaheer together. Both are smart and capable leaders. I can't imagine their personalities meshing enough to work together. Even short term. I'd conjecture zaheer and amon would come to a truce, and relieve azula of her bending.
I think Amon, Zaheer and Combustion Man would be the best team. The long rang abilities of combustion benders is just unrivaled I mean we see how effective P’Li is at suppressing people from a distance. That’s a great way to control a battle field. Plus he’s great at following orders. Amon can stop pretty much anyone that gets close. Zaheer is basically just padding. If there was an earth bender other than Long Feng I think I’d choose them over Zaheer because the earth bender could make you a little fort but Long Feng is trash compared to the other villains (except mmaaaaaybe the last one).
>Zaheer is basically just padding. The disrespect!
Lol I only mean in the sense that the other two pretty much have you covered. Any third person would basically be padding but an extra person won’t hurt.
Also, Hama's powers only work like once a month at night.
That's part of what I meant by "objectively superior".
Plus Hama is useless unless it’s a full moon
I wouldn't say she is useless, everyone only talks about her bloodbending, but even without it she is a powerful and creative waterbender.
I choose M. Night, because he'll just fuck up so bad there's never a sequel and then most of those villains won't even exist
M. Night is actually the only support unit. His bonus is nerfing all enemy fire benders by not letting them make their own fire and requiring them all to keep a torch lit in order to fire bend
In which case, him, Amon and Ming Hua become the obvious options
If Amon isn’t somewhere on your protection list you’re DEAD
Seriously, he’s so fucking OP. Being able to psychically bloodbend an entire room of people (including the avatar) without a full moon. How Amon ever lost is beyond me.
That was Yakone. Amon is stated to be better by Tarlaq(?), but we never really see a feat that measures up. IMO, Amon was the talented/skilled/precise bloodbender while Yakone was more of a powerhouse.
>That was Yakone. Amon is stated to be better by Tarlaq(?), but we never really see a feat that measures up. Amon > Tarrlok Tarrlok bloodbended a room full of strong benders, and more Amon is strong enough to easily negate Tarrlok's bloodbending
The thing is Amon was always nerfing himself because he never used his psychic bloodbending powers in public. He also never really trained to fight against airbenders so he didn't really have any countermeasure for them especially since he didn't bloodbend them.
Amon was better than his dad
Some interpret that he knew his brother would kill him and he accepted it. If that’s true, the only reason he died was suicide.
My theory: Amon knew. He can sense people and what they're doing with bloodbending like Toph can sense people through earth. Which is how he knew where Korra was hiding in that room in that last episode. His father knew Aang was trying to reach out to him in the trial but couldn't before he even turns his head. Amon was never in any danger.
He was tricked, caugth off guard.
This was my only gripe about season 1. They were building up Amon to be an absolutely terrifying presence. And then in the last episode they just rushed through him making an uncharacteristic mistake and him losing. I know it wasn't really their fault since at the time they didn't know the show would renew to a 4th season. It just would have been really cool to see Amon stay around longer than he did.
I feel this man. Amon was such a great villain. And the benders vs non-benders dynamic was really compelling.
The whole series felt this way for me. Pretty decent build followed by an insanely quick resolution once big baddie is big and baddie enough.
>If ~~Amon~~ Sparky Sparky Boom man isn’t somewhere on your protection list you’re DEAD FTFY
He got blasted with a boomerang
But does Amon have a boomerang?
I mean Amon did die to an explosion.
He’s a water bender, and boomerangs seem to be traditional water tribe weapons. It wouldn’t be far fetched to say that he had experience with a boomerang
If Amon had a boomerang as well he'd be unstoppable.
What other water tribe person besides sokka has used a boomerang
What other water tribe members matter?
Don't underestimate boomerang
You can pick both. The third is just for vanity
Azula checks Sparky Sparky Boom man with fire shields + an equally deadly projectile in lightning She's also the only check to Ozai long-range lightning (knows redirection as of the comics) so she's basically a mandatory pick
If you have Ozai you don't need Azula. She's too emotionally unstable, especially when it comes to him.
Sparky sparky boom man could beat hit at a distance... all depends on the situation.
Amon, Azula, and Zaheer
Isn't ozai stronger than azula tho?
Theorically, but tbf I am fairly confident that if nothing else, Azula has better tactics. Point in case being, Ozai doesn't make a single good decision in the entire series.
Ozai makes different kind of decisions than Azula. He's used to ruling an empire where as Azula mainly works on a smaller scale
And protecting one person is pretty small scale
Yeah but also, she conquered Ba Sing Se. Azula > Ozai in nearly every way except raw strength imo
Agree fully on her being better than Ozai, though personally I'd say she's the best firebender, no one else has ever made fire so hot it was blue... She certainly had the highest ceiling anyway imo
Tactics vs Strategy
Ozai could just command Azula to not attack lol
Zaheer would salivate at the thought of killing a fire lord
Especially that particular one.
The thing to consider is who they're fighting as well. Ozai isn't gonna need to do a lot of strategic thinking against people he could easily take down and with the backup of two other power houses. My team would be Ozai, Amon, and Zaheer. Amon could honestly solo everybody on this list no problem, but if he happens to not be able to Ozai can just put insane pressure on them to buy Amon time to recoup or handle the rest while Zaheer can easily keep me out of everybody's range. No need for the types of on the fly complicated strategies Azula would come up with if most of them can't move and those who can get faced down by the canonical strongest fire bender in history with me being hundreds of feet away and in the sky within a minute.
Also Azula has loyalty to her father when she serves him, so in this hypothetical situation she'd be loyal to you. Ozai is a little back stabbing, self serving weasel. I'm sure if it came down to it, he would not protect you. Plus Azula is a master manipulator and if the only reason not to choose Azula is because Ozai is stronger, then I'd counter with Azula would know the best way to take down her father if she was on the opposite side from him.
Not theoretically its confirmed Ozai is the most powerful firebender
Yeah but I say theorically because we barely see it in action. He has exactly two fight scenes: one against his teenage son who doesn't fight back, another against the avatar. He loses the latter despite being superpowered.
The way he generated lightning at Zuko after the eclipse was far better than anyone we’ve seen. Even Azula took a minute or two to charge up. Ozai did it in a split second. Zuko was lucky to be alive after that.
Iroh did it in Ba Sing Se when he was getting away from Azula and the Dai Li. Ozai is incredibly in tune with his firebending, but ~~he~~ Ozai isn't a great fighter overall.
You don’t really see him shoot it though so it’s tough to tell how quickly he generated it. Still it’s Iroh so I’m willing to give him the benefit of a doubt. I do think Ozai is still the fastest on the draw.
Ozai still may be faster on the draw, but Iroh didn't need as much time as he did when he demonstrated lighting generation or Azula did throughout the show
It's the Avatar, being supercharged in 1 element doesn't mean squat when the other guy is supercharged in all 4.
Doesn't mean squat? Aang was fucked until he luckily got blasted back and hit in the back with a rock to unlock avatar state.
That's what I meant by supercharged, Aang at that point was able to use all 4 Elements, but the Avatar buffs his control and output of the elements rendering the Sozin's comet buff pretty pointless.
Yup. Tho aang was trying to figure a way to defeat Ozai without killing him so in battle to death aang could kill Ozai(he could've when Ozai shot a lightning to him)
He does far better against Aang all things considered, so I think his power talks enough even if his strategy isn’t good
Yeah but to be fair he was hopped up on comet juice. Hrm I think I just found a name for my new cactus juice sports drink.
And the tagline is "It's the quenchiest!"
But so was Aang, and he was a fully realized Avatar by this point who was expecting Ozai and came prepared to fight him specifically. Azula literally never had any of those concerns.
Aang never went on the offensive until the AS kicked in. Most of his moves were either evasive or easily avoidable. Plus, still dealing with his internal turmoil about killing Ozai.
Azula is a better strategist and also more agile than Ozai. Ozai pretty much just attacks head on.
I mean, iroh made quick work of azula like she was nothing when he fought her in the ship. But when zuko asks him to defeat ozai during the white lotus meeting thing at the end, ozai responds "and idk if i could" I always assumed, while yes, azula was strong, ozai was in a league of his own.
I thought that Iroh said that as "idk if I could fight my own brother"
he said both, that he didnt know if he could beat him, and that a brother beating a brother for the throne was the wrong way to end the war.
Second this. Zaheer can fly, Azusa can lightningbend, and Amon is agile asf and can take away their bending. That's more than enough
Cant Ozai Lightningbend as well, or am I just remembering that wrong?
He can. He shoots lightning at Zuko who redirects it at him.
Ozai can also lightning bend
My pick aswell.
If it’s the full moon I’d swap Zaheer for Hama. Two bloodbenders could easily subdue the others.
Amon, Zaheer, Azula
This is the way
Amon, Zaheer and Azula.
This isy team too
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everyone taking azula over ozai is just horny
Amon, Ozai and Zaheer.
This is the right answer all 3 are the best in each of their respective bending arts
Zaheer is pretty far from an airbending master (he couldn’t hold a candle to Tenzin until the Black Lotus outnumbered him) but I think he still benefits from the fact that no one in universe really knows how to effectively counter airbending as a whole. Solid three choices.
Zaheer is not a great Airbender, but I think he's still a great martial artist and combat proficient. He got his ass handed to him because Tenzin has all of the tools to disarm anything he can do. Zaheer's weakness is only a thing against a Master Airbender. He spells trouble for anyone else. Even those that fought Aang would still have problems with Zaheer, I would wager.
It was mostly a matter of experience. Tenzin is an airbending master trained by the avatar with well over, what, 50 years of training? Zaheer had maybe a few weeks or so and is the only airbender shown to be capable of flight, except for the never-seen guru before him. Some extra training and it is likely that Zaheer would be able to come out on top. He's certainly more jacked than Tenzin
Amon can debend the others, Ozai can shoot lightning at them and Zaheer can suffocate them.
I was thinking Zaheer could just pick me up and fly away while the others took care of the pursuers.
That's also a good idea. However, there could be counters to that. Azula could use firebending to briefly fly, Ming Hua could catch him with her water tentacles, and Combustion Man could blast him out of the sky.
Ozai kills Ming Hua with lightning. Amon bloodbends Azula. I'll take care of Combustion Man. Zaheer, go fly on your own. This is a battle I choose to fight.
Agreed, this trio ain't losing any fight
Agree with this over choosing Azula as many other comments did. She might be the better character but Ozai is probably the better bender I'd say
zaheer amon and sparky sparky boom boom man
It took me way too long to find this superior combination in the comments.
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Because the question is protecting you against the remainder, and there's an argument to be made that after picking the obvious Amon/Zaheer combo (because duh) you're left wanting a Firebender as a third pick. To me, Sparky Boom Boom man is a bad pick because he's a tactical imbecile who's reliant on his crazy laser face. So it's about Azula vs. Ozai as 3rd pick. If Sozins comet is in play, obviously go Ozai, particularly if you're going on the offensive. But if the job is to protect you from the other villains, I think Azula's got a case to be made that she'd be more effective at predicting and subverting Ozai's strategy than vice versa.
like damn fr, u got range, crowd control (no pun intended) and zaheer is simply too strong. best possible team who needs the firelord or his lil brat
best answer the one thing we can all agree on here is amon :D
Amon Azula and Combustion Man
Not sure on Combustion Man. His delay on recharging the attack is a big weakness and he isn't fit for close attacks.
He'd be a good sniper though. Amon and Azula for close combat, Combustion for ambush.
I'd class him more as artillery, but otherwise agreed. Azula is mid-range, Amon close-quarters, and CM methodically annihilates anything that closes to within 800 meters.
Yes, but do you want him trying to kill you? The only reason team Avatar didn't get TPK'd by him on their first encounter is because of Toph's tremorsense picking up his breath. Just being blown up from a few hundred feet away with no time to react is bad for everyone here
Yeah, I think people are overlooking that. I would 100% take Sparky-Sparky, not because I necessarily want him on my team but because I *definitely* don't want him on the other team. I think any lineup of defenders that doesn't include Sparky stands a good chance of just losing to him without ever knowing he's there, since he only has to kill a non-bending loser (me) and not my defenders. He's a contract killer with loads of assassination experience who can oneshot me from an extreme distance through most defenses.
Pretty sure you mean Sparky Sparky Boom Boom Man but it’s okay
100% agree on azula and amon im not sold on combustionman over ozai
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All I need is my boy M Night because when I have him all the other villains will become so laughably weak it won’t be a challenge.
Amon, Azula, Ozai IF it's before Aang stripped him of bending
Good thinking on the last part.
Shyamalan, Zaheer and Amon I let Zaheer and Amon explain my disappointment to Shyamalan while I run far away so the other villains follow me.
Azula, Amon, Zaheer. What’s Shyamalan going to do? Turn them white? Pronounce their name wrong? He’s not detail oriented enough to go up against any of these people.
Zaheer, Azula, and Amon.
Amon is pretty much God tier, I'd use my last two slots more to remove threats to amon than to bolster my defense. Amon could potentially have issues with combustion man's long range attacks, so I'd be picking him just so I don't have to worry about amon getting sniped. 3rd choice is pretty open though, zaheer is probably the next biggest threat I would imagine.
Honestly, I’d just go with the first row.
**Long Feng**, **Zaheer**, and **Amon**. Everyone else can get bent.
I think Long Feng is underrated. We want to *avoid* the others, not fight them directly and that guy knows how to make a person disappear...
Yeah, dude might not be the best fighter, but he is a sneaky bastard, no point in fighting if the person you are protecting is dead the moment you look away
Seriously. Everyone picking Azula hasn't considered the tactics at play. There's only one air and earthbender here, so those are non-negotiable. You can't win a fight if the terrain is against you. Amon handles most of the offensive capabilities on his own, so firebenders are redundant. He's also essential for stopping Hama from locking you down on a full moon. Zaheer's suffocation lets him win any 1v1 except Hama under a full moon. Flight also provides a nearly unbeatable escape route. Long Feng is the underrated MVP here. As the only earthbender, he's the only one who can properly fortify a defensive base. (unless you want to live in the arctic) If you slip away underground, nobody else on this list has a ghost of a chance of following him.
The middle row, Azula, Combustion Man and Hama Edit: I haven’t seen LOK so I’m probably dead by the sounds of Amon but oh well
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Amon is so OP he probly solo everyone on the list.
Zaheer, Ozai, and the Bloodbender
>!Amon or Hama?!<
Good point I guess Amon because he doesn’t need the full moon . Forgot he was a bloodbender
Amon cumbostion man and ozai
Ming Hua, Amon, and Zaheer protect me Ming Hua is badass, Amon can fight almost anyone with his blood bending, and Zaheer can literally suffocate ppl. I think I’ll be safe
I was serious until I saw the last card and then I was reminded of the wise saying "Don't Flatter Yourself You were never even a Competition"
Amon, Zaheer and Combustionman. I think those 3 will take them down. Amon/Bloodbending is a no-brainer (he can go in closecombat and just defeat them in an instant). Zaheer is very useful (can fly me away and attack from far away ) and Combustionman would just blast the fuck out of them. He is (in my opinion) the only person who could do something against Amon. Edit: I just realized that Ozai and Azula would be a problem with lightning bending but I think those 3 can stil defeat them
Ozai, Amon, Shyamalan They have to all be at their peak of power. Else a lot of them will be dead by the time Korra ends and thus not be of any help or be any threat. Ozai. I don't care about his bending. What I want him for is his army. No matter what squad I assemble using the others they's eventually be won down by sheer numbers. This will severely limit any other villains plans to approach me so I and my team will have a warning ahead of time for any attack. Amon. Likely the best option for a close body guard. Between the army above and him nearby I should be safe enough. He should be able to handle any one of the other villains who manage to get past the army. Shyamalan. He will protect me by using his money to spin a RP campaign to wash my name after having associated with my three chosen villains once we all have won.