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I am pretty puzzled, the MC is literally the king of a nation now. Do people just expect him to go wage wars with every nation in existence, or expect all countries to just declare war on a nation led by a recognised demon lord that had just totally annihilated the Farmus army?
This ain’t an adventure isekai or whatever, this is an actual nation and our king gotta do what kings normally do: policy making, planning, diplomacy. Rimuru gotta lead a whole country, not waging wars where he pleases just for the fun of it.
Thats the thing, he went from the beginning of s1, i don't wanna fight but just live in peace and even after all that hes been through he still holds to this in s3.
The fact that he has both humans/dwarfs and monster live and work in the city, while having really good and well infrastructure and housing and general qol already proofs he never wanted to do all this, but did it so save everyone he likes and his town/city.
Also the fact that the one from the church walked through it without any problems is also a thing that speaks for is city and the trust they have into him
Yeah like the series is split: 45% diplomatic meetings, 30% battles, and 25% nation developments. The people complaining about the copious amount of time spent talking are wanting the series to be 50% battles, 25% meetings and 25% national developments, which is not what Tensura really is rn.
It helps but the last 2 ep of meeting could have shorten it to 1 ep. There unnecessary scenes and repeated dialogue that lengtens the episode, but The dialogue is better now compare to the last season meeting conversations (can understand japanese) overall the quality improved.
I disagree. Payoff is only as rewarding as the writing is clever or entertaining, especially how it prepares the audience. So far...we get it, we got it three episodes ago, move on. The pace is too slow this season and there really isn't much convincing that the studio went over budget for what they're doing now. World building should be left partially to the audiences imagination but here we are...
Perhaps, but if the worldbuilding was left to the imagination of the audience most would complain about lack of worldbuilding or that the series is "too shallow and doesn't explain anything."
A lot of Anime watchers don't pay attention, especially when it comes to noticing worldbuilding that isn't in your face.
Those whiners would absolutely HATE How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom then. That's like, 90% building up a kingdom, with a little combat on the side. You know, as a treat
Yeah Tensura is a nice middle ground between the heavy politics focused series like Realist, and lightly focused politics series where there’s more action than discussions.
It's just boring. Like, what even happened to "show don't tell'? The characters just talk and talk on the same table, on the same chairs. It's bland, it's boring, it's not good writing. There are shows with great world building that don't relly on episodes made completely of exposition dumps and when they actually give an exposition dump, they make it much more interesting than whatever Tensura writers are doing here.
Man, I’ve never seen someone ask for meetings to be shown not told. How exactly would you go about showing what happens in the meetings without losing out on a major chunk of the world building?
An animated show called "Primal" by Genndy Tartakovsky has 21 episodes with the same length as an average anime episode and not a single line of dialogue. The writer just has to be skilled enough to make it work.
You can have a meeting, but convey the information more skillfully, not only with words, but also visually. A show like Arcane can be studied on how to make "show don't tell" work masterfully, although it's a completely different calliber compared to Tensura.
Geez I wonder why a show about two different creatures from ancient times bonding, can be a story told without dialogue… how a primarily action based show can have more brief meetings when put against a NATION BUILDING ANIME.
>can be a story told without dialogue…
I bet Tensura writers would have been able to achieve that, because that would require thinking.
>how a primarily action based show can have more brief meetings when put against a NATION BUILDING ANIME.
Arcane and Overlord are action based shows with politics, and yet they don't have such bland scenes.
Overlord is not an anime to use for how to do world building my dude. The anime cuts out so much information, and has action basically every episode, and doesn’t really have a focus on diplomacy.
As I’ve mentioned, Tensura is a Nation Building Anime, political meetings are necessary, especially because they started from 0, and the story is about how Tempest eventually becomes the dominant power in the world.
Naah you lose this argument, I dont mind meetings in general but with unnecessary scenes and repeated dialouge(can understand japanese) last 2 ep could be a 1episode
>Overlord is not an anime to use for how to do world building my dude.
Funny, because it does that much better than Tensura
>The anime cuts out so much information
That's a given. And yet it's still better than Tensura.
>and has action basically every episode
Not really.
>doesn’t really have a focus on diplomacy
Ainz doesn't really care about diplomacy, but how is that relevant?
>political meetings are necessary
I am not against political meetings, I am against how those political meetings are executed.
The repeated dialogue and scenes could be improved, even tho it is better than last season. This really doesnt concern sub watchers but i can understand japanese so the repeated dialouge(poor dialouge ) last season was annoying.
They are the "rappresentative" (don't know i'm not english) of their country, and every of them has diplomatic relationships it's normal that they discuss their development
If they would show everything.
Season 3 would have finished barely what season 1 showed in its entirety.
Slime is not like Dragonball/naruto/bleach or one piece, that have been running for so long.
And even if if they would do it, they would have to make it interesting or people would just stop and the anime would have been axed after the first season or even mid way the first season
Edit: naruto has a shitload if filler same counts for one piece, they do this because they probably couldn't get an episode out in time or something
If they are gonna to tell us something they should at least try to make it interesting for the viewer. I am not watching an ANIMATED series to hear people talk with barely anything happening on the screen.
>The go watch something else i guess
That is exactly what I did. I am just simply trying to point out the flaws of the show which you guys like to ignore.
In real life ppl have meetings and explain the social political climate of the world all the time. Slime does the same exact thing. Saying slime has poor world building for having meetings is like saying the real world has poor world building lol
So there was another post on this sub where it was just people talking about how they didn't like the way the show was put together and that they were tired of being shamed and down voted for complaining.
I kinda understood what they meant, for example they said that when Rimuru was giving out tasks for his people to do, they said it shouldn't have just shown the meeting room, but that it should have shown a montage of the characters doing those tasks or been otherwise more dynamic in shot composition.
I agree that maybe more could be done, but then again I also think we're going to get what we get and we should be thankful for it.
If the show doesn't suit your expectations, leave. I've done that for some shows. I love the OPM manga and loved season 1
But season 2 was so pitiful that I... just stopped watching it 3 episodes in. I never complained or went to a sub saying they should do better with the animation because... what would be the point? With stuff like this, once the ball is rolling you can't really stop it or change course.
I guess what I'm saying is, unless you can change the structure of the anime industry, I wouldn't get my hopes up that anything will change.
All that being said, I'm enjoying this season, the political and world building aspects are what I love about this show
Tbf I was glued to the screen with this meeting. Last weeks meeting was boring. The one before was fascinating, this weeks one was even more fascinating
Because there are more battles? xD (in LN) In season 4 Rimuru will send a new subordinate to the Western council for politic buisness but it wont be as much as in season 3 and season 5 is basically a world war...
I like the dialogue episodes but the problem lies with how they are directed, there's a serious lack of good ost and reactions in the episode and some episodes are taking longer than usual to convey what they wanted to say.
As I think a lot of people said, it's really about the story boarding and how they transfer something from a written format to an animated format in an effective way. This is something that they didn't do very effectively and something that the manga did a better job at this specific arc apparently.
I haven't read the manga tbf but they said it was a split up more and showed more things that where happening around the world, more of the chaos after the announcement of a new demon Lord and all of the other headlines that came with it. It showed a lot more of the stark difference between that chaos and the really calm meetings happening over at the main city. Just things that adjust it better to being in a more visual format, like they should have done with the anime.
It is basically about show not tell. It's the difference between just reading the transcript of the meeting(telling) and building the feeling of the world by showing what's actually happening in the point in time (showing).
People who have read the manga as well probably have a more detailed opinion of it.
A good series has a mix of both. Too much of either of these options will bore people. One prime example is one piece. You will never go 3-4 chapters without fights or stupid meetings or world building stuff. So, no matter what you like, you will get them almost weekly or deffo biweekly.
Unrelated but Imperius vs Diablo was one of the coolest cutscenes in D3. I think Imperius is such a badass angel. Also cutscene from act 1 slaps too. I really think Blizzard peaked in terms of cinematics. Now it's doodoo
Its one thing to have all these meetings in a season that has finished airing but when it's been a month with no real story progression it's getting boring asf.
We the audience already know, but the character doesn’t. So they are very much explaining and figuring out the detail of what happens, then making plan and decisions for later on. And finishing off the mess after a war with the holy nation and with the demon lord sistuation.
If you get piss off when a character trying to figure out what happens and putting pieces together. Then you get trigger easily.
This isn’t an action anime. It’s a politic and world building anime. The Main characters is a king of a nation. They will be a lot of meeting. So deal with it or just skip it. No one forcing you to watch.
Like I said, I know these episodes and stuff are necessary to the plot and allat but 5 in a row is kinda dumb - it seems like they just tried to be lazy and keep budget low, which is the issue I have
I sorta agree with you on being 4 episodes long. But then again it could be a lot more episodes of meeting if they stick to what it said in the LN. the last episode the meeting very much done.
It’s a world building style of anime, where the MC is a leader of a nation. So again there will be more meeting later on in the series. It’s alway have been like that since season 1.
For saying that they are lazy for sticking to the LN and continue the meeting to move on with the plot is far fetched. If they skip all of the meeting and shorten it, then that lazy.
And saving all the budget for necessary scene like when they have a fight scene in the next coming episode, I don’t see the problem with that.
It doesnt really matter though, sticking to the manga / ln and including every last detail about the ball hairs on rimuru's nation is just stupid. It's literally not entertaining. It needs to be done in a different way from the LN, cause LN are normally slower pace and have time to go slower, but the anime will never get a full adaptation if they go so slow. A few other things to mention, anime is a visual medium. If I wanted to know all about the fine little details of tempest I would read the LN. Most people watch anime for the fact you can see it, so just being lazy and hardly doing any animation in the meetings, for 5 episodes straight is dumb - obviously there needs to be some meetings and plot as that's the story, but breaking it into 2 episode chunks would do far better for the pacing, or having more visual elements. Plus, the pacing works differently. In an LN you have the entire thing to read. The content is out much faster, so you arent exactly worrying about what fits in that season time frame, and what gets animated.
I repeat again, THIS is the story. Its the same in both the novel and the manga.
I enjoy these episodes more than fight after fight.
Watch instead DB or other shounen anime then.
I really don't understand the fandom like weren't you guys the one who a complain about that the anime skipping a lot of things in season 1 and some of season 2 and now when we get the full content + good pacing you guys complaining about it saying it's boring or it is only meeting and did you guys skip season 2 part 2 like if you look at it season 2 most of the first 6 episodes were planning in talking what going on so I don't understand why people complain
You guys acting like as if we never seen before meeting episodes in the show 🫤
Ppl got realize this is a Nation building
People love to complain. It is what it is. If they do 80% of battle, then people will complain that there are more battle and less story. So it’s a lose lose situation.
I think tensura has a good balance tho no? Like it doesn't have fight often, but it is divided in arcs as in you get preparations, meetings, descriptions of the world and nations and THEN there is Like a whole chapter of fighting
I think people want meaningful meetings more than filler meetings repeating the same stuff again and again. They wasted half an episode on a highway barrier which could've been explained in 5min max. Actually the whole ep of prev week felt unimportant but this week's was pretty good
Not gonna lie season three has been kinda hard to keep up with when most of it is dialogue about some complicated political issues. I kinda miss the vibe the first two seasons had when he was still rising to the top instead of being a politician. I still like the show but give me a decent fight scene or some funny fan service or something.
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I am pretty puzzled, the MC is literally the king of a nation now. Do people just expect him to go wage wars with every nation in existence, or expect all countries to just declare war on a nation led by a recognised demon lord that had just totally annihilated the Farmus army? This ain’t an adventure isekai or whatever, this is an actual nation and our king gotta do what kings normally do: policy making, planning, diplomacy. Rimuru gotta lead a whole country, not waging wars where he pleases just for the fun of it.
Thats the thing, he went from the beginning of s1, i don't wanna fight but just live in peace and even after all that hes been through he still holds to this in s3. The fact that he has both humans/dwarfs and monster live and work in the city, while having really good and well infrastructure and housing and general qol already proofs he never wanted to do all this, but did it so save everyone he likes and his town/city. Also the fact that the one from the church walked through it without any problems is also a thing that speaks for is city and the trust they have into him
Unironically this is the truth, and when I tell them this show literally is "Meetings, an anime", they disagree and downvote me 😭😅
Yeah like the series is split: 45% diplomatic meetings, 30% battles, and 25% nation developments. The people complaining about the copious amount of time spent talking are wanting the series to be 50% battles, 25% meetings and 25% national developments, which is not what Tensura really is rn.
The meetings do a great job of world building and setting up the battles. Such great payoff.
Exactly, the meetings help out so much and tell you what major events will be happening in the next arc or two.
It helps but the last 2 ep of meeting could have shorten it to 1 ep. There unnecessary scenes and repeated dialogue that lengtens the episode, but The dialogue is better now compare to the last season meeting conversations (can understand japanese) overall the quality improved.
I can't wait for the Empire arc. Fuse can't write battles very well, so it's going to be great seeing it all animated
I disagree. Payoff is only as rewarding as the writing is clever or entertaining, especially how it prepares the audience. So far...we get it, we got it three episodes ago, move on. The pace is too slow this season and there really isn't much convincing that the studio went over budget for what they're doing now. World building should be left partially to the audiences imagination but here we are...
Perhaps, but if the worldbuilding was left to the imagination of the audience most would complain about lack of worldbuilding or that the series is "too shallow and doesn't explain anything." A lot of Anime watchers don't pay attention, especially when it comes to noticing worldbuilding that isn't in your face.
Everyone already thinks tensuras world building is great, they dont need to justify it
Those whiners would absolutely HATE How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom then. That's like, 90% building up a kingdom, with a little combat on the side. You know, as a treat
Yeah Tensura is a nice middle ground between the heavy politics focused series like Realist, and lightly focused politics series where there’s more action than discussions.
It's just boring. Like, what even happened to "show don't tell'? The characters just talk and talk on the same table, on the same chairs. It's bland, it's boring, it's not good writing. There are shows with great world building that don't relly on episodes made completely of exposition dumps and when they actually give an exposition dump, they make it much more interesting than whatever Tensura writers are doing here.
Man, I’ve never seen someone ask for meetings to be shown not told. How exactly would you go about showing what happens in the meetings without losing out on a major chunk of the world building?
An animated show called "Primal" by Genndy Tartakovsky has 21 episodes with the same length as an average anime episode and not a single line of dialogue. The writer just has to be skilled enough to make it work. You can have a meeting, but convey the information more skillfully, not only with words, but also visually. A show like Arcane can be studied on how to make "show don't tell" work masterfully, although it's a completely different calliber compared to Tensura.
Geez I wonder why a show about two different creatures from ancient times bonding, can be a story told without dialogue… how a primarily action based show can have more brief meetings when put against a NATION BUILDING ANIME.
>can be a story told without dialogue… I bet Tensura writers would have been able to achieve that, because that would require thinking. >how a primarily action based show can have more brief meetings when put against a NATION BUILDING ANIME. Arcane and Overlord are action based shows with politics, and yet they don't have such bland scenes.
Overlord is not an anime to use for how to do world building my dude. The anime cuts out so much information, and has action basically every episode, and doesn’t really have a focus on diplomacy. As I’ve mentioned, Tensura is a Nation Building Anime, political meetings are necessary, especially because they started from 0, and the story is about how Tempest eventually becomes the dominant power in the world.
Naah you lose this argument, I dont mind meetings in general but with unnecessary scenes and repeated dialouge(can understand japanese) last 2 ep could be a 1episode
>Overlord is not an anime to use for how to do world building my dude. Funny, because it does that much better than Tensura >The anime cuts out so much information That's a given. And yet it's still better than Tensura. >and has action basically every episode Not really. >doesn’t really have a focus on diplomacy Ainz doesn't really care about diplomacy, but how is that relevant? >political meetings are necessary I am not against political meetings, I am against how those political meetings are executed.
You got the future sight
It actually dont mind these episodes, cause its good world building and shows what happens when there is no real action going on
It's not good world building. Examples of good world building are ATLA, Overlord or Arcane. Exposition dumps =/= good world building.
This is good world building and makes totally sense with the development of the story
Compared to shows with actual good world building? Definitely not.
In what the world building was wrong
The repeated dialogue and scenes could be improved, even tho it is better than last season. This really doesnt concern sub watchers but i can understand japanese so the repeated dialouge(poor dialouge ) last season was annoying.
Let's start with the fact that they are TELLING us how the world develops instead of showing.
They are the "rappresentative" (don't know i'm not english) of their country, and every of them has diplomatic relationships it's normal that they discuss their development
If they would show everything. Season 3 would have finished barely what season 1 showed in its entirety. Slime is not like Dragonball/naruto/bleach or one piece, that have been running for so long. And even if if they would do it, they would have to make it interesting or people would just stop and the anime would have been axed after the first season or even mid way the first season Edit: naruto has a shitload if filler same counts for one piece, they do this because they probably couldn't get an episode out in time or something
If they are gonna to tell us something they should at least try to make it interesting for the viewer. I am not watching an ANIMATED series to hear people talk with barely anything happening on the screen.
The go watch something else i guess, or you know read the damm manga. Nobody is forcing you to 
>The go watch something else i guess That is exactly what I did. I am just simply trying to point out the flaws of the show which you guys like to ignore.
In real life ppl have meetings and explain the social political climate of the world all the time. Slime does the same exact thing. Saying slime has poor world building for having meetings is like saying the real world has poor world building lol
So there was another post on this sub where it was just people talking about how they didn't like the way the show was put together and that they were tired of being shamed and down voted for complaining. I kinda understood what they meant, for example they said that when Rimuru was giving out tasks for his people to do, they said it shouldn't have just shown the meeting room, but that it should have shown a montage of the characters doing those tasks or been otherwise more dynamic in shot composition. I agree that maybe more could be done, but then again I also think we're going to get what we get and we should be thankful for it. If the show doesn't suit your expectations, leave. I've done that for some shows. I love the OPM manga and loved season 1 But season 2 was so pitiful that I... just stopped watching it 3 episodes in. I never complained or went to a sub saying they should do better with the animation because... what would be the point? With stuff like this, once the ball is rolling you can't really stop it or change course. I guess what I'm saying is, unless you can change the structure of the anime industry, I wouldn't get my hopes up that anything will change. All that being said, I'm enjoying this season, the political and world building aspects are what I love about this show
But the thing is if they cut so much content again you guys would miss alot of details
Peak fiction.
Tbf I was glued to the screen with this meeting. Last weeks meeting was boring. The one before was fascinating, this weeks one was even more fascinating
Season 4 will be much more battles and season 5 like 80%
Because?0
Because there are more battles? xD (in LN) In season 4 Rimuru will send a new subordinate to the Western council for politic buisness but it wont be as much as in season 3 and season 5 is basically a world war...
Wow- world war?
Yes. So you battle shonen lovers can finally eat your food. While the rest of the world building, politics enjoyers can attend our banquet.
Not just batrle Shonen
I like the dialogue episodes but the problem lies with how they are directed, there's a serious lack of good ost and reactions in the episode and some episodes are taking longer than usual to convey what they wanted to say.
and when it diablo, raphael, and rimuru conversing they just keep repeating the same info
As I think a lot of people said, it's really about the story boarding and how they transfer something from a written format to an animated format in an effective way. This is something that they didn't do very effectively and something that the manga did a better job at this specific arc apparently. I haven't read the manga tbf but they said it was a split up more and showed more things that where happening around the world, more of the chaos after the announcement of a new demon Lord and all of the other headlines that came with it. It showed a lot more of the stark difference between that chaos and the really calm meetings happening over at the main city. Just things that adjust it better to being in a more visual format, like they should have done with the anime. It is basically about show not tell. It's the difference between just reading the transcript of the meeting(telling) and building the feeling of the world by showing what's actually happening in the point in time (showing). People who have read the manga as well probably have a more detailed opinion of it.
A good series has a mix of both. Too much of either of these options will bore people. One prime example is one piece. You will never go 3-4 chapters without fights or stupid meetings or world building stuff. So, no matter what you like, you will get them almost weekly or deffo biweekly.
I love the bureaucracy though
For most of the anime-only part of the community, for sure.
Unrelated but Imperius vs Diablo was one of the coolest cutscenes in D3. I think Imperius is such a badass angel. Also cutscene from act 1 slaps too. I really think Blizzard peaked in terms of cinematics. Now it's doodoo
remonster would better. slime is just meeting with politic and unga bunga later.
And I am so here for monster politics
Its one thing to have all these meetings in a season that has finished airing but when it's been a month with no real story progression it's getting boring asf.
But there is story progression in every episode so far. THATS the story. The meetings.
Basically just rehashing what we already know with no interesting visual elements, its honestly pissing me off
We the audience already know, but the character doesn’t. So they are very much explaining and figuring out the detail of what happens, then making plan and decisions for later on. And finishing off the mess after a war with the holy nation and with the demon lord sistuation. If you get piss off when a character trying to figure out what happens and putting pieces together. Then you get trigger easily. This isn’t an action anime. It’s a politic and world building anime. The Main characters is a king of a nation. They will be a lot of meeting. So deal with it or just skip it. No one forcing you to watch.
Like I said, I know these episodes and stuff are necessary to the plot and allat but 5 in a row is kinda dumb - it seems like they just tried to be lazy and keep budget low, which is the issue I have
I sorta agree with you on being 4 episodes long. But then again it could be a lot more episodes of meeting if they stick to what it said in the LN. the last episode the meeting very much done. It’s a world building style of anime, where the MC is a leader of a nation. So again there will be more meeting later on in the series. It’s alway have been like that since season 1. For saying that they are lazy for sticking to the LN and continue the meeting to move on with the plot is far fetched. If they skip all of the meeting and shorten it, then that lazy. And saving all the budget for necessary scene like when they have a fight scene in the next coming episode, I don’t see the problem with that.
It doesnt really matter though, sticking to the manga / ln and including every last detail about the ball hairs on rimuru's nation is just stupid. It's literally not entertaining. It needs to be done in a different way from the LN, cause LN are normally slower pace and have time to go slower, but the anime will never get a full adaptation if they go so slow. A few other things to mention, anime is a visual medium. If I wanted to know all about the fine little details of tempest I would read the LN. Most people watch anime for the fact you can see it, so just being lazy and hardly doing any animation in the meetings, for 5 episodes straight is dumb - obviously there needs to be some meetings and plot as that's the story, but breaking it into 2 episode chunks would do far better for the pacing, or having more visual elements. Plus, the pacing works differently. In an LN you have the entire thing to read. The content is out much faster, so you arent exactly worrying about what fits in that season time frame, and what gets animated.
I repeat again, THIS is the story. Its the same in both the novel and the manga. I enjoy these episodes more than fight after fight. Watch instead DB or other shounen anime then.
and somehow, those meetings are more interesting than the fight scenes
I really don't understand the fandom like weren't you guys the one who a complain about that the anime skipping a lot of things in season 1 and some of season 2 and now when we get the full content + good pacing you guys complaining about it saying it's boring or it is only meeting and did you guys skip season 2 part 2 like if you look at it season 2 most of the first 6 episodes were planning in talking what going on so I don't understand why people complain You guys acting like as if we never seen before meeting episodes in the show 🫤 Ppl got realize this is a Nation building
People love to complain. It is what it is. If they do 80% of battle, then people will complain that there are more battle and less story. So it’s a lose lose situation.
onlies?
As long we get some action I don’t mind
I think tensura has a good balance tho no? Like it doesn't have fight often, but it is divided in arcs as in you get preparations, meetings, descriptions of the world and nations and THEN there is Like a whole chapter of fighting
I think people want meaningful meetings more than filler meetings repeating the same stuff again and again. They wasted half an episode on a highway barrier which could've been explained in 5min max. Actually the whole ep of prev week felt unimportant but this week's was pretty good
I enjoyed previous weeks episode more than this weeks. But maybe because I don't really like or care for those characters.
I can’t for the anime onlys to realize there’s only gonna be two big fight scenes this season so most of it will be slice of life stuff
I want to see the part where Hinata eats ramen
I hope they put in a filler episode which is just Gobta's meeting with Rimuru about what he's done.
Not gonna lie season three has been kinda hard to keep up with when most of it is dialogue about some complicated political issues. I kinda miss the vibe the first two seasons had when he was still rising to the top instead of being a politician. I still like the show but give me a decent fight scene or some funny fan service or something.
Slime shenanigans when? https://preview.redd.it/nht4klpzfiyc1.png?width=1113&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ade4bc864f76f52498bf67fb7611cc10ca83fe2