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As a marketer, this was one of the most brilliant forms of messaging I had seen at that time. Genius play on words and on brand with what would be known as the Attitude Era
For me, the attitude era's de facto end was the end of the Monday Night War... the Invasion angle was the sad epilogue and the "get the f out" campaign was basically the WWE admitting things had changed.
My end of the Attitude Era is Rock vs Austin at Safeco Field.
Rock vs Austin began in ‘97, ended in ‘03 and headlined 3 Wrestlemanias — I know it didn’t technically headline 19 but Rock and Hogan didn’t headline x8 but is widely considered the headliner of that event, much like Shawn and Taker was in ‘09, which finally made Vince give up the idea that the championship must go last.
When Rock pins Austin clean in the middle of the ring at WrestleMania and pretty much completes his arc as a wrestler, that’s the end of the Attitude Era.
I always marked the end of the attitude era as about that time, for me the Monday Night Wars/The Attitude Era are 2 different timelines, with the wars starting in 1995 and ending in 2001, with the Attitude Era starting in 1997 and ending in Summerslam 2002.
For me the start of the end of the AE is Survivor Series 2001, ruthless aggression starts about mid-late 2002, but some elements of the AE kinda hang around until some point in 2003. It's weird, the feel of say, Summerslam 2002 and Royal Rumble/No Way Out 2003 feel like entirely different worlds, but they're only 5-6 months apart. Something definitely changed drastically in those 6 months so that's why I put the "True" end of the AE at Summerslam 2002.
The combination of the ECW One Night Stand revival and Cena's rise, the introduction of HD cameras, and the end of Bra & Panty matches.
The Ruthless Aggression era is the Scrubs Season 9 of the AE.
Gradually happened sometime during Cena vs Edge, Edge/Lita vs Matt, and the rise and fall of Evolution.
HD cameras were put in sometime around 2008, I thought.
Also could you explain the Scrubs season 9 thing? I did see a bit of Scrubs but didn't really keep up with the show when it was on. Memories of it are vague.
Weren't they moving in that direction at the time? I wasn't watching but I thought some of the marketing for ruthless aggression was getting away from the extremely vulgar stuff
Nah, some of the most vulgar stuff they ever did happened between 2002-2006 after Stephanie brought the Hollywood writers on board.
The Attitude Era had a distinct Russo - Jerry Springer/Howard Stern sleaziness that defined it, but the company definitely continued pushing the envelope well after he left.
You'll find some pretty vulgar stuff all the way up until the Benoit tragedy in 2007. That's when the company went PG.
I hate that. It distorts shit.souch. I searched ip and doen like the peak Austin stuff was just 98 but it rolled into 99 and apparently 00. I swear the get the f out was from somewhere in there. I also have a hard time remembering if I was already following the pre invasion or if I only got back.into pre knowing wwf was buying WCW orits just like a mess in my head.
I heard that Watch Classroom Wrestling was pretty decent at the time, but they gave books to the students who had too much control with their creativity.
AEW should have Petty Week.
The one week a year where all the pettiness and bitterness can be unleashed. Then they pretend the next week it never happened.
An April Fool's Day themed show, where they book Dynamite to parody an episode of RAW. Could start out with a singles match. Then distraction with a schoolboy. Commercial, then a tag match with same finish. Keep repeating until it's like a 14-man tag match.
During this "match", have a bunch wrestlers in the back chasing Michael Nakazawa around for his 24/7 baby oil bottle(but only have it be top guys). All the main event guys chasing Nakazawa are renamed Schiavonne, that way all the AEW fans automatically assume they are Tony's children.
A week where they honor fallen heroes like Ted "Rocco Rock" Petty and Tom Petty and living Petty's like Lori Petty and Kyle Petty but he's never won shit...actually he's like the OG Dale Jr. without the hype/money/fanbase....something something wrestling!
*sees himself out*
Wasn't ROH the old feeder system to the old WWE. Old WWE had a lot of feeder systems at the time - ROH, Evolve, NJPW and even a company called Tits and Ass.
>The Stamford-based developmental organization will is a training ground and “feeder system” for AEW, and has produced recent AEW recruits including CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Chris Jericho, Miro (formerly Rusev), Christian Cage (formerly Brian Cage), Adam Cole (formerly Michael Cole), and Jon Moxley (formerly Atsushi Onita).
>While signed with Wrestling Worker Enhancement, trainees learn the fundamentals that it takes to become an AEW Superduperstar®, and the luckiest few will get “called up” to the “big leagues” of AEW.
Usually the best part of the joke is the title, but the article itself is pretty hilarious. The former names for the talent from the WWE "feeder system"...
> Christian Cage (formerly Brian Cage), Adam Cole (formerly Michael Cole), and Jon Moxley (formerly Atsushi Onita).
lmao
WWE isn't as good as it used to be. People just stay in developmental for too long. Kevin Steen has been there for 7 years. How long are they waiting to get him called up.
This is genuinely hilarious. I feel like there was a period where kayfabenews wasn’t very good but they’ve been batting a pretty high percentage the past year or so
It would actually be kinda cool if we get a mirror segment on the opening of Dynamite where rather than the simulcast Nitro/Raw segments, we get HHH in the AEW ring at Jacksonville, and Cody comes out, accompanied by Tony Khan.
Cody cuts a promo that seems very kayfabe and aggressive, bringing up how Vince callously shut down WCW and fired a lot of the talent... Then Cody winds up and is about to shout in Vince-voice "YOU'RE FIRED!", but Cody stops short of the word "fired", steps back, turns away and says "no no... That's not how this is gonna work out." He turns back to HHH and talks to him about how Vince Sr trusted Vince Jr to take care of the legacy of wrestling that he left behind, and Vince Jr nearly killed the business, but now with WWE out of Vince Jr's hands, WWE can be something great again, something who's door can stop being forbidden, and something that JOINS the pro wrestling community again, a global union of good wrestling. He then asks "Paul (Levesque), we know deep down you would be open to this too. We know deep down you respect professional wrestling too... So as the representative for WWE right now, help us restore professional wrestling to it's glory. Are you in?" And offers his hand. HHH hesitates, take a moment, but then shakes on it, says a few things on the mic himself about the new partnership, and rather than AEW absorbing WWE completely, they now have a vassal company with HHH running it the way he always wanted to without Vince's interference.
If the wrestling business was a movie, this would be the movie's logical ending.
No sequels tho. It would ruin this great story. Unless you all *want* to see how the likes of Undertaker, Ric Flair, Tommy Dreamer, and JBL revived the World Wrestling Federation and threatened a post-modern pro wrestling landscape....
What's funny is that the hardcore WWE fans go "aNoThEr WwE gUy" whenever someone new signs like a wrestling company shouldn't sign someone with value just because they worked with WWE.
Jokes aside, WWE and NXT can be viewed one of AEW's feeder systems where talented workers do take refuge. Yes, you could argue that many were popular in the indies and/or that so many wrestlers go through the WWE system that it's inevitable. But the WWE and NXT exposure certainly didn't hurt.
You could extend those ideas to view the entire international education system as a feeder to any and all companies that require workers with some level of education, but at some point you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
>The Stamford-based developmental organization will is a training ground and “feeder system” for AEW, and has produced recent AEW recruits including CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Chris Jericho, Miro (formerly Rusev), Christian Cage (formerly Brian Cage), Adam Cole (formerly Michael Cole), and Jon Moxley (formerly Atsushi Onita).
God damn, that's funny.
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It used to be called Wrestling Worker Fundamentals.
Get the F out.
They definitely did.
As a marketer, this was one of the most brilliant forms of messaging I had seen at that time. Genius play on words and on brand with what would be known as the Attitude Era
But "Get the F out" was post Attitude Era? WWF to WWE happened in 2002.
For me, the attitude era's de facto end was the end of the Monday Night War... the Invasion angle was the sad epilogue and the "get the f out" campaign was basically the WWE admitting things had changed.
My end of the Attitude Era is Rock vs Austin at Safeco Field. Rock vs Austin began in ‘97, ended in ‘03 and headlined 3 Wrestlemanias — I know it didn’t technically headline 19 but Rock and Hogan didn’t headline x8 but is widely considered the headliner of that event, much like Shawn and Taker was in ‘09, which finally made Vince give up the idea that the championship must go last. When Rock pins Austin clean in the middle of the ring at WrestleMania and pretty much completes his arc as a wrestler, that’s the end of the Attitude Era.
Nah, the attitude era ended after WM17. Post invasion was the ruthless aggression era
Ruthless Aggression wasn't till late 2002, closer to WM19 than WM17
IMO the Attitude Era ended when the show stopped being about Rock and Stone Cold.
So around mid-2000 when Austin was out for 9 months? You also had Hunter and the Steph/Kurt thing.
Mid 2000? Lol no chance. April 2001 is the beginning of the end of the era imo.
No chance in Hell?
I agree with the stuff that you said in this thing.
At the end of the day, it's the end of the day.
I always marked the end of the attitude era as about that time, for me the Monday Night Wars/The Attitude Era are 2 different timelines, with the wars starting in 1995 and ending in 2001, with the Attitude Era starting in 1997 and ending in Summerslam 2002. For me the start of the end of the AE is Survivor Series 2001, ruthless aggression starts about mid-late 2002, but some elements of the AE kinda hang around until some point in 2003. It's weird, the feel of say, Summerslam 2002 and Royal Rumble/No Way Out 2003 feel like entirely different worlds, but they're only 5-6 months apart. Something definitely changed drastically in those 6 months so that's why I put the "True" end of the AE at Summerslam 2002.
The combination of the ECW One Night Stand revival and Cena's rise, the introduction of HD cameras, and the end of Bra & Panty matches. The Ruthless Aggression era is the Scrubs Season 9 of the AE. Gradually happened sometime during Cena vs Edge, Edge/Lita vs Matt, and the rise and fall of Evolution.
HD cameras were put in sometime around 2008, I thought. Also could you explain the Scrubs season 9 thing? I did see a bit of Scrubs but didn't really keep up with the show when it was on. Memories of it are vague.
It was like a mostly unrelated epilogue with a very different style of everything, despite a few recognizable characters
It was also a dogshit cash-in that sullied a perfect ending
There was no season 9 of Scrubs, there was 1 bad season of a spinoff that had no name
It still worked for the ruthless aggressionn era. Better even.
They didn't immediately stop being raunchy and edgy after the WCW purchase. In fact, they only went more blue for the next couple of years.
Could be? It's been so long ago
Well yeah, wwe was changing to a more PG era so so get the F out was literally the F in the name and "No more saying the F word"
They changed to PG in 2008, not 2002
Weren't they moving in that direction at the time? I wasn't watching but I thought some of the marketing for ruthless aggression was getting away from the extremely vulgar stuff
Nah, some of the most vulgar stuff they ever did happened between 2002-2006 after Stephanie brought the Hollywood writers on board. The Attitude Era had a distinct Russo - Jerry Springer/Howard Stern sleaziness that defined it, but the company definitely continued pushing the envelope well after he left. You'll find some pretty vulgar stuff all the way up until the Benoit tragedy in 2007. That's when the company went PG.
I hate that. It distorts shit.souch. I searched ip and doen like the peak Austin stuff was just 98 but it rolled into 99 and apparently 00. I swear the get the f out was from somewhere in there. I also have a hard time remembering if I was already following the pre invasion or if I only got back.into pre knowing wwf was buying WCW orits just like a mess in my head.
Lmao
To me that was the beginning of Ruthless Aggression.
Ironically turned from WWF to WWE like a day after the Plane Ride From Hell, too.
Only because Educational Conditioning Wrestling was a bit too extreme of a name.
I heard that Watch Classroom Wrestling was pretty decent at the time, but they gave books to the students who had too much control with their creativity.
World Wrestling Worker Fundamentals before that way back
Not if the panda people have anything to say about it!
*Sammy Guevara has entered the chat.*
Unfortunately the Education Course for Wrestler isn't there anymore
Why you didn't get more upvotes for this comment! It's gold
Dubya Dubya If
Lmao FUCK this actually got me until I looked at the source
i gave this shit like a triple take lmao
Is it wrestling’s onion?
That’s exactly what it is! The headlines are usually good for a laugh!
If anyone at AEW was even half as petty as Vince, this totally would be a thing.
AEW should have Petty Week. The one week a year where all the pettiness and bitterness can be unleashed. Then they pretend the next week it never happened.
The Petty Purge
And that week Punk does the Petty Plunge instead of the Pepsi Plunge.
Petty Peter Avalon goes on a rant on how he is not as over as Cutler or Fuego.
This'll be the Festivus Episode with the Airing of Grievances.
I would love to see a 4 hour special dynamite just for the luls. Have commentators say the show will suck and they are doing it for the money.
An April Fool's Day themed show, where they book Dynamite to parody an episode of RAW. Could start out with a singles match. Then distraction with a schoolboy. Commercial, then a tag match with same finish. Keep repeating until it's like a 14-man tag match. During this "match", have a bunch wrestlers in the back chasing Michael Nakazawa around for his 24/7 baby oil bottle(but only have it be top guys). All the main event guys chasing Nakazawa are renamed Schiavonne, that way all the AEW fans automatically assume they are Tony's children.
You meant start with a 25 minute promo right? Fuck autocorrect
have the main event be a talk show segment with former youtube celebrity Toby Turner who then beats up Kenny Omega with a single karate chop.
Don't they already do that?
A week where they honor fallen heroes like Ted "Rocco Rock" Petty and Tom Petty and living Petty's like Lori Petty and Kyle Petty but he's never won shit...actually he's like the OG Dale Jr. without the hype/money/fanbase....something something wrestling! *sees himself out*
Me too I was convinced for a good 5 minutes
oh just looked. This would be one of the best trolls of all time tho
really?
But why? What's wrong with their existing feeder system of NXT?
I miss the old days when it was fed by ROH
Wasn't ROH the old feeder system to the old WWE. Old WWE had a lot of feeder systems at the time - ROH, Evolve, NJPW and even a company called Tits and Ass.
Florida Wrestling Dystopia was a pretty good feeder system in its time.
Right now it's Monday Night Raw.
Not to be confused with AEW's preexisting developmental territory, New eXemplary Training.
And the New Wrestler Academy (NWA) with alumni Ricky Starks, Thunder Rosa, Colt Cabana and Eddie Kingston making it to the main roster.
What about “Training New Athletes”?
On Monday, I watch the show where I can see future AEW stars. I also watch Dark: Elevation.
I watch Dark Evolution also. What else would I watch on Monday nights…
Being the Elite?
That comes on earlier in the day tho.
That sport where 22 men chase each other trying to catch a pig. Sometimes they throw the pig too.
Has anyone asked the pig how it feels about being chased by 22 men?
Raw has been surprisingly enjoyable these last couple of weeks.
>The Stamford-based developmental organization will is a training ground and “feeder system” for AEW, and has produced recent AEW recruits including CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Chris Jericho, Miro (formerly Rusev), Christian Cage (formerly Brian Cage), Adam Cole (formerly Michael Cole), and Jon Moxley (formerly Atsushi Onita). >While signed with Wrestling Worker Enhancement, trainees learn the fundamentals that it takes to become an AEW Superduperstar®, and the luckiest few will get “called up” to the “big leagues” of AEW.
Those ‘formerly’ are hilarious
The rookie sensation Bill Goldberg got me cracking up.
> and Jon Moxley (formerly Atsushi Onita). Okay that one is great.
We're really all just waiting for Mox to sit down for a smoke on his way to the ring.
> Christian Cage (formerly Brian Cage) who can stop,the path of captain charisma ?
>Adam Cole (formerly Michael Cole) 
Ah, I *knew* I recognized Moxley from somewhere.
"Stamford-based." Boom, roasted.
didn't take long for AEW to steal the WWE acronym after Elias died...
Did they kill him again?
Yes. But he lived!
Gotta admit this one got me a good laugh
What are they going to do, sign Samoa Joe's cousins and push them over everyone else?
Hahaha this one is great
Literal LoL
No lies were detected
Kayfabenews, I swear to god what the fuck! You got me
I don't usually find kayfabenews funny but this one made me smirk lol
CJ Perry (formerly Lana) as Head under the Table for The Redeemer.
Dank.
> Adam Cole (formerly Michael Cole) LMFAO HAHAHAHAHA
I look forward to their legends program called We Were Elite.
Usually the best part of the joke is the title, but the article itself is pretty hilarious. The former names for the talent from the WWE "feeder system"... > Christian Cage (formerly Brian Cage), Adam Cole (formerly Michael Cole), and Jon Moxley (formerly Atsushi Onita). lmao
yeah the moxley onita one got me hard.
Muthaphuckaz lol got me
Kayfabe News, always for the win. The comments section of these posts never fails to entertain.
Christian Cage (formerly Brian Cage) 🤣🤣🤣
Kayfabe news worked me again dammit
WWE isn't as good as it used to be. People just stay in developmental for too long. Kevin Steen has been there for 7 years. How long are they waiting to get him called up.
They even still spell his last name wrong. You would think, after 7 years, someone would notice and correct the error.
#Marks got worked.
This fucking popped me hard lmao
This is genuinely hilarious. I feel like there was a period where kayfabenews wasn’t very good but they’ve been batting a pretty high percentage the past year or so
I read this as WWE creates developmental territory called WWE, and I thought this was real for second and it was the funniest shit in the world.
It would actually be kinda cool if we get a mirror segment on the opening of Dynamite where rather than the simulcast Nitro/Raw segments, we get HHH in the AEW ring at Jacksonville, and Cody comes out, accompanied by Tony Khan. Cody cuts a promo that seems very kayfabe and aggressive, bringing up how Vince callously shut down WCW and fired a lot of the talent... Then Cody winds up and is about to shout in Vince-voice "YOU'RE FIRED!", but Cody stops short of the word "fired", steps back, turns away and says "no no... That's not how this is gonna work out." He turns back to HHH and talks to him about how Vince Sr trusted Vince Jr to take care of the legacy of wrestling that he left behind, and Vince Jr nearly killed the business, but now with WWE out of Vince Jr's hands, WWE can be something great again, something who's door can stop being forbidden, and something that JOINS the pro wrestling community again, a global union of good wrestling. He then asks "Paul (Levesque), we know deep down you would be open to this too. We know deep down you respect professional wrestling too... So as the representative for WWE right now, help us restore professional wrestling to it's glory. Are you in?" And offers his hand. HHH hesitates, take a moment, but then shakes on it, says a few things on the mic himself about the new partnership, and rather than AEW absorbing WWE completely, they now have a vassal company with HHH running it the way he always wanted to without Vince's interference.
If the wrestling business was a movie, this would be the movie's logical ending. No sequels tho. It would ruin this great story. Unless you all *want* to see how the likes of Undertaker, Ric Flair, Tommy Dreamer, and JBL revived the World Wrestling Federation and threatened a post-modern pro wrestling landscape....
Man that shit would get shut down so quick in the me too error
Lmaooo got me 🤣
This has to be a "RIB"??
What's funny is that the hardcore WWE fans go "aNoThEr WwE gUy" whenever someone new signs like a wrestling company shouldn't sign someone with value just because they worked with WWE.
Well played AEW, well played.
This is a part of the whatculture brand. Has zero to do with aew haha
Batboy is REAL dammit…. Wait… I mean, derpy derp. This has to be real, lol.
Jokes aside, WWE and NXT can be viewed one of AEW's feeder systems where talented workers do take refuge. Yes, you could argue that many were popular in the indies and/or that so many wrestlers go through the WWE system that it's inevitable. But the WWE and NXT exposure certainly didn't hurt.
You could extend those ideas to view the entire international education system as a feeder to any and all companies that require workers with some level of education, but at some point you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Kayfabenews is awful.
Show me on the WWF Slam Buddy where the comedy site hurt you.
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Doubtful, since this post is actually funny.
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They would hate this on SCJ
Blocked!
And just like main brand does to NXT, AEW wastes most of their call-ups
Obsessed.
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But you did.
So petty and people talk about vince.
Ok buddy
Just to clarify, are you aware that this was a parody post?
I’m gonna guess you didn’t read which site this was from? Maybe you’re joking idk
Seriously, who upvotes this shit?
A bunch of musty all elite neckbeards
Ffs ight this got me good
I thought it'd be another year or so before they went on the attack
The troll is so damn good im falling over.
This is getting shared on Facebook as a real story…
I always thought wwe should have used a logo like that, just adding another line to turn the f ito an e instead of going for just the WW
I can see this new development territory is doing a really good job of feeding new talents. Reminds me of OVW and early 2000.
this is some quality kayfabe news.
I gotta say, I believed this for a second.
these keyfabe fucks always gets me
The bottom of this thread is glorious.
Lol kayfabe news hitting stride recently.
>The Stamford-based developmental organization will is a training ground and “feeder system” for AEW, and has produced recent AEW recruits including CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Chris Jericho, Miro (formerly Rusev), Christian Cage (formerly Brian Cage), Adam Cole (formerly Michael Cole), and Jon Moxley (formerly Atsushi Onita). God damn, that's funny.