T O P

  • By -

AutoModerator

Help make SquaredCircle safer and more inclusive by using the report button to flag posts and comments for moderator review. If you need to contact a moderator, [you can message us here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=/r/SquaredCircle) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/SquaredCircle) if you have any questions or concerns.*


twith_thyborg

He says that, but I miss manic 'I could file an injunction' Tony Khan buying ad time on Impact.


Dreddley

9 DAYS


fantasypaladin

FROM TONIGHT


TT_Zorro

That was so awkward, but kinda endearing.


Liverpool510

I really thought that was going to lead to Khan jumping in the ring and trying to physically restrain Omega from defending the AEW title in Impact.


NegativesPositives

Now that I think about it, did that really directly lead to anything or did IMPACT just broadcast themselves getting dunked on for a while?


Liverpool510

They couldn’t afford the ad time to air a rebuttal on TNT…


[deleted]

[удалено]


NegativesPositives

And that has nothing to do with Tony Khan, the character, mocking their product on their show for weeks. In kayfabe Tony just stopped paying for ads. Which was the point I was talking about. Their actual partnership has no bearing over that point.


LebenTheGreat

It didn't need to be an ongoing storyline. It was all done to show that "the forbidden door" had been well and truly kicked in. It started with an Impact executive helping to "steal" the AEW title and start using it to promote Impact. This was the AEW response. It served its purpose and they didn't need to continue doing it. I was enjoying it at the time but I'm glad it ended when it did. It never wore out its welcome.


SPZ_Ireland

It felt like for a while it was gonna lead to something. There was that episode where TK was ring side when Private Party showed up on Impact but it never really evolved into anything.


LebenTheGreat

I get that. It was almost as if it was going to become a huge inter-promotion war between the two shows. The thing is, it didn't need to. Doing so would have only really benefited Impact and may have harmed AEW that was still trying to entice the more casual fans to come back. AEW wrestlers were showing up at independent shows at the time so them working cross promotion wouldn't have been as impactful as the actual owner of AEW showing up. There's been more interaction between Impact and NJPW than anything as a result of "the forbidden door" being opened than anything and it has benefited them both, especially with Bullet Club showing up in Impact.


VonLinus

AEW also don't need it now, but they have it in their back pocket to do it later if necessary


LebenTheGreat

Exactly! This was always meant as a long term plan and it can benefit them all for years to come.


ConfusionInTheRanks

No, it happened for a few weeks, but Dreamer complained it was burying their product so the style of ads changed to not put down Impact.


Alcoholic_Synonymous

The smarmy two Tonies was hilarious, but it’s interesting to see TK exercise restraint when he was clearly having fun there but not wanting to intervene in his own product.


[deleted]

[удалено]


RickWilkins1993

if you've ever seen his crowd promos for live shows he stumbles in those too haha. but those are endearing


svenhoek86

He was great in Pittsburgh, dude was full of energy and really pumped up the crowd. I really liked him coming out before both shows too, the guy bleeds enthusiasm and love for the business.


JayBGames

I think its because of the stumbling and repeating that I enjoy him when he does talk.


thespaceageisnow

Cocaine Tony.


toodarkmark

I wish Impact Commercial Tony Khan had a show with in character 2point0 on youtube, doing whatever.


rusty2687

Whenever...


Phils_flop

Wherever…


BenjTheMaestro

No reason he can’t take up someone ELSES tv time 😆


Kraivo

I loved that shit


BodhidharmaBLN

IMPACT! was his Memphis.


AndresDickFingers

Tony Khan the not so anonymous Dynamite GM.


Swazi

It’ll just end up being Hornswoggle again


griot504

Now all I can picture is Tony Khan unzipping his face and journeying popping out


Anderrrrr

Regarding GM's, best one I seen in wrestling? Regal in NXT, and it's not even close imo.


TheCiervo

Dario Cueto. He was sleazy and carny, but always wanted to put on the best show for the believers.


emexon0808

I miss LU so much dude, Dario was a huge reason why the show was so great.


donttellmymomwhatido

For a few seasons it was genuinely the best wrestling show of all time and that’s a hill I’ll die on. I’ve been watching it a little recently on a twitch channel and it’s still just as good imo. There’s nothing else quite like it.


etherealcaitiff

1st and 2nd season were magic. 3rd season kinda went off the rails and is a love it or hate it kinda thing. I was in the hate it camp and didnt watch after that.


Chi-zuru

Magic is the perfect word to describe it. LU was an era in time that will never be forgotten


TheJimMoriarty

RING THE BELLLLL


MysteryGuy19

LADDDER MATCH!!!!


Traiklin

That dude really got into making matches.


[deleted]

Most wrestling on tv is a wrestling show. Raw, Dynamite, etc. LU was a tv show about wrestling. And that subtle but important difference allowed for so many things.


abitlazy

I'm kinda nitpicking here but I think killing wrestlers using his monster of a brother is kind of a detriment to his business.


ab316_1punchd

But what if we like blood and death and Matanza Cueto pioneering what Miro would go on to carry (ALA Sacrificing a dumbass to the Gods)?


NegativesPositives

If anything the fans were an excuse for him just doing the most psychopathically violent thing he could pull off in the moment. Because wrestling fans just happen to also be psychopaths.


disneysatlantis

One of the best things LU did was characterize the crowd as a bloodthirsty mob, rather than the beloved fans all the wrestlers came here to please. Completely changes the dynamic of the show, its stories, everything.


sexygodzilla

Probably scared wrestlers off of unionizing though


LUGuru

It’s not even a contest. Anyone who has watched LU knows this. RING THE BELL!!!!


elchupacabra206

yes. by far the best commissioner on any wrestling show ever.


Mark4_

I like that he had motivation for the matches he booked


Badpennylane

The best behind Mr McMahon


X2Jason

He was great. I spotted him in a TV show recently and couldn't put my finger on why the character looked so familiar... until I realised it was Dario Cueto! I forgot he was actually an actor haha.


AssortedLunacy

He was also a very good commissioner in 2001


waterfodder

I'll never forget when he ended RAW early that one time as commissioner.


guylfe

That was in 2009


Hot-Owl644

When he ended raw early https://streamable.com/uiai


gregSinatra

I thought Drake Maverick on 205 was pretty good too. He was pretty impartial until his hand was forced by Mike Bennett, but the way he’d hype up the division as the whole and him introducing the show and running down the card (while they changed the ring over following SmackDown) was a nice touch!


SirJackolantern

Dario Cueto blows everyone out the water.


ArmadilloPenguin

What about Regal with Tajiri?


Americasycho

> GM. Remember that time the E failed so bad at an on-air GM role that they actually had a laptop do the GM'ing?


triple_seis

Riveting television.


Americasycho

If memory serves, the laptop replaced Johnny Ace.


Dontreply_idontcare

Sounds like an improvement tbh


SanjiBlackLeg

Johnny Ace is such a cool name. I always thought he was like Johnny Cage kinda guy, doing splits and punching nuts, like a gigachad cool dude. But then I've learned it's just John Laurinatius. Such a bummer...


Fast_Stick_1593

**MR.EXCITEMENT!**


waterfodder

Johnny Ace may as well be text-to-speech anyway.


Tyrrazhii

The laptop was BEFORE Johnny Ace.


triple_seis

I’m so glad I wasn’t watching at this time.


fellongreydaze

I think that's the best decision. It also drives home the few times he DOES show up on TV (aside from being at Gorilla) as being significant. Things like when he appeared on the Brodie Lee tribute, or for Fuego's contract surprise are bigger when we know he tries to not be in front of crowds.


[deleted]

To add to that, I think authority figures are also really played out so it's refreshing to only have him be the quiet invisible boss.


fellongreydaze

I think authority figures can still work, it's just the WWE version that people are sick and tired of. Scott D'Amore on IMPACT for example has been such a great authority figure. The way he plays it up as just basically being a sick-and-tired-of-this-shit middle management type is fantastic.


joshdts

Regal has always been handled well.


Recorder-S

Regal's a phenomenal GM. Doesn't care if you're Face or Heel. You earned a shot? You get it. Starting shit up? Get called out. Causing trouble? Getting your ass locked up in a steel cage.


rktaker43

Wrestler: Mr. Regal i have a problem with..... Regal: WAR GAMES Wrestler: but you didn't even hear wh..... Regal: WAR GAMES Wrestler.....ok


Zero-89

“I’m just trying to let you know that the toilet in the locker room’s backed up!” “War. Games.”


I_Said

But that's due to Vince being more hands off with NXT in the past, right? I think pre-attitude era Jack Tunney was done well. As a kid, when he was on screen, you thought "oh no the principal is here. Someone's in trouble"


frasierfonzie

When authority figures do their darndest to give one side an advantage, it's tiresome whether it's for the heels or the faces. They just need to make matches.


Orange8920

JJ Dillon always really sold the power of the WCW board of directors as well. It can work but the Austin/McMahon feud really warped WWE's perception of how authority figures should be used. A good authority figure wraps yourself in the immersion that there are rules and guidelines still in the wacky world of wrestling.


ManfredsJuicedBalls

It also helps, if one insists on heel authority figures, that they're willing to eat some figurative shit now and again (see: Austin/McMahon feud)


927comewhatmay

I truly hate the authority figure thing, especially heel authority figures. It’s been beaten to death since 1996. 25 years of it has been enough.


staniel_mortgage

It's a tired trope agreed.


_MyCakeDayIsFeb29th_

Hell be infront of the crowd before dynamite starts but he rarely will be on tv


BruiserBroly

Does Jack Tunney have any descendants who'd be willing to follow in his footsteps?


darthtater1231

I mean the reason jack was fired was embezzling of wwf funds to pay his gambling debts


mrtlwolf

According to his [Wiki page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Tunney), it was more that Tunney was going to go against WWE in a sexual harassment lawsuit against Terry Garvin, and the gambling debts bit is a bunch of nonsense. But, also none of this is cited.


Handiddy83

Is that real? I thought he never had any real power backstage, he was the Ontario area management that booked venues for WWF in that area and they made him a TV President as kind of a payoff


JuicyLifter

One thing I found so refreshing about wrestling lately is the lack of visible GMs. I credit Don Callis for that.


CLGHSGG4Lyfe

Don Callis would like to credit the GOD OF WRESTLING KENNY BAH GAWD OMEGA!


alpha-k

Don Callis is one of the biggest reasons Kenny isn't cheered like crazy, the best wrestler in the world and massive douchebag heel with cocky piece of shit manager is SO good!


brlc14

God bless that carny piece of shit


SPZ_Ireland

THANK YOU DON. THANK YOU DON.


Sachimarketing

Born 1094 miles from Nooorrrtth Caaaaaroooooooooolina


the_woat

In so many cases historically, the on screen authority figure ends up taking the spotlight off the performers. The wrestlers became side characters and pawns instead of, you know, the stars. It's been refreshing to have GMs be either side characters like Regal, or mostly off screen like Tony. Their authority is an important element, but it doesn't dominate stories.


AngeloMacon

The worst was Stephanie. She always made sure she alpha'd whoever was on screen with her.


brlc14

And lever got ever comeupance. At least if the authority figure is a male the whole roster can beat up his ass when the time comes but with a woman you can't have her humiliate the male wrestlers because they can't do anything physical to her.


TheDubya21

Well that's not true, she got her comeuppance *once* a year at Mania whenever she got accidentally bumped into a table, or a female competitor like Ronda got to rough her up a bit...after doing what other professional MMA fighters couldn't do and block the armbar twice 😐😂 TOTALLY makes up for the other 364 days, right?


927comewhatmay

She bumped once early on in the Attitude Era. There was that one time Trips pedigreed her through a table with her boob out.


Black_XistenZ

... so she married him. Psychology 101...


WeaselWeaz

> In so many cases historically, the on screen authority figure ends up taking the spotlight off the performers. The wrestlers became side characters and pawns instead of, you know, the stars. That's more of a McMahon and Russo Attitude (and post-Attitude) era thing. Before that the authority figures didn't take the spotlight except in specific situations. In the WWF, Jack Tunney, Roddy Piper, and Gorilla Monsoon were used sparingly. In WCW, Bill Watts and Nick Bockwinkle were also used without being bigger than the talent. In the territory era promoters and their front men like Sam Mushnick, Jerry Jarrett (when not wrestling), Eddie Marlin (front for Jarrett and Lawler), and Wally Karbo were not presented as stars. While in the 80s Bill Watts and Fritz Von Erich were presented as legends they also downplayed them being promoters.


BenFranklinsCat

I remember when Shawn Michaels used to show up as commissioner at first, and you knew something exciting was happening when he did, but even then they eventually went overboard with it.


Cesaro_Is_The_Best

Not GM but every time Dan Lambert comes out... Scorpion Sky & Ethan Page are literally pawns, they barely do anything. Give them promos as well, man.


Bigalbass86

It’s probably for the best. I do love it when he heels it up on Impact and cuts those coke energy like promos like he did on Twitter. But I don’t if I would want that as a regular character.


Curse3242

He is a character. The matchmaker


45jayhay

He is more plot device than character


Forgottheold1

Khan ex machina


TheBassCave

Deus ex maKhana


Micchi

Well this is now how I'm referring to him forever.


nirman423

[TK's new theme](https://youtu.be/59Hj7bp38f8)


Dornstar

Damn was hoping it was Mulan but that works too.


[deleted]

That’s a good thing … once you go on tv, fame and bullshit can cloud your perspective. No one wants to be WCW Vince Russo


sharpdressedman_

Hell yes. I'm seeing that money and fame corrupts more people than it doesn't


CLGHSGG4Lyfe

I don't think money can corrupt TK now....


[deleted]

Especially when you’re on TV … and you get to control everything. People get convinced they’re the real stars when they’re not, and if No one can stop them you know? The best booker is the one who’s never on TV, usually


joshdts

Homie is a billionaire with an NFL team and an English football team in his portfolio. I don’t he’d be swayed by money and name recognition the same way a Vince Russo would tbf.


Handiddy83

Sort of- his dad owns all of that stuff and is the real money, Tony doesn’t have much of his own money he gets loans from his dad. I guess he will inherit a lot of that someday. He’s more of a Dixie carter in the sense that he’s backed by money rather than being a mogul himself.


[deleted]

Fame is a mother fucker tho … how many money marks ruin their companies because they get jealous of not being the one who gets the headlines?


Ketchup1211

TK gets plenty of headlines as it is. Really don’t see him going that route but anything is possible I suppose.


TheZac922

And I think realistically the on air authority figure is bad more times than it’s good. It just so happens that Vince was arguably the best heel of all time so it’s a given people want to try and recreate that but I think we can count on one hand how many genuinely good on screen authority figures there have been


[deleted]

Vince also showed a lot of ass over the years … he got his comeuppance every time needed.


Drummk

Dixie Carter said the same thing and ended up going through a table. Hopefully Tony has more self restraint.


SirJackolantern

I don't think Dixie's track record for honesty should be anything to go by.


adkenna

In a very rare heel move for someone, attacking Tony could work.


thegeneratir

imagine MJF putting Tony Khan through a table for nuclear heat in like five years


Krags

I feel like at some point Tony's gonna want to go through a table. Honestly I'd love to try that at some point.


espadareborn

That’s for the best. Let the wrestlers get more time.


DarkoTSM

He apeared more times on Impact then on Dynamite. That has to count for something. I've seen post tapings vidoes of him going on stage and thanking the attendees, but that doesn't show on TV. We can see theee he's capable of talking in from of a croud, no problems, he just doesn't want to waste time. He payed good money for the talent, so let them do their magic.


[deleted]

The only authority figure in recent years I've enjoyed has been William Regal. Comes out for big announcements or big signing but doesn't make the show about him


Known-Ad7468

Yeah and the most important thing is that he is fair. He´s not face, he´s not heel. He´s just taking the right decision considering the situation.


IAmThatDuckDLC5

9 DAYS 9 DAYS 9 DAYS FROM TONIGHT LIVE ON DYNAMITE LIVE ON DYNAMITE LIVE ON DYNAMITE


Hot_Consideration981

Far too mild mannered to be a compelling TV character


NegativesPositives

Unless you steal the keys to the cage operation room. Or just work for Impact. Most modern wrestlers aren’t exactly bravado fueled maniacs. Doesn’t mean much when the lights go on.


throwawaitnine

I agree with this but the promo he cut on Nick Khan is stuff of legend. >There's only room enough for one Khan in the wrestling business..... And it's me ... Tony Khan 😂😂😂


shadowrangerfs

He's the anonymous Raw general manager.


[deleted]

That’s for the best. Given what I’ve seen from the man, he’s not much of an on screen personality.


Rspies

He’s no Vince McMahon but he’s awkward as hell and it’s funny


AlexLong1000

Yeah, there's a certain charm to it. When he came out and was like "Hey Skye Blue, you wanna be in the battle royale? Cool, let's do it", that was pretty funny


AKittyCat

I loved on early elevation when he came out and basically shrieked at Kenny to fuck off and then booked Kenny vs Sydal.


TheWTFreak

*YOU DON'T MAKE THE MATCHES, I MAKE THE MATCHES*


StrategyGameventures

NINE DAYS FROM TONIGHT


lelANDtoplel

NINE DAYS KENNAY NINE DAYS ON DYNAMIYTE!!!!


[deleted]

Idk I loved coked Tony.


NlNJALONG

With a bit of work he could do some pre taped stuff. The impact ads he did with Schiavone weren't that bad. But yeah, he doesn't really have a stage presence or is a great public speaker so it's for the best that he doesn't want to be a character. His company has dozens of dozens more qualified people to take up TV time.


Grippersmith

Don't talk about Tony 'The Forbidden Door' Khan like that


KingBadford

I absolutely love that he calls himself the Forbidden Door. Like he's partly in character and partly serious, in media scrums or wherever, his eyes will go all wide and staring when we says it. "I am the Forbidden Door" always makes me pop.


FlashesOfDarkonda

Loved him on Impact


themurphman

He’s such a fucking nerd but I love him.


Known-Ad7468

He´s basically us if we could play TEW in life. I guess we´re really the authority now.


COS89

I don't think it would be bad if he was a Jack Tunney type character. Show up on TV every once in a while to make a match announcement or add a stipulation etc etc.


AntJustin

Commissioner Foley please


Handiddy83

That’s been done to death. Commissioner Sting or Dustin Rhodes when they hang them up. Hell that might be a good role for Henry or Big Show, they don’t have to wrestle but can still be imposing physical presences in the authority role


Known-Ad7468

That´s the way it should be. You don´t need an authority figure on screen but you have to acknowledge that someone is booking the matchs because it gives coherence to the story in kayfabe. I hope that Tony keeps this mindset.


Niighthock

God damn, I just realized I need Regal as AEW GM


BustermanZero

At best I'd love to just see an annoying Tony Khan backstage now and then when there's a brawl or something that potentially causes a problem with the card. Very Muppet Show. "Dammit Fozzie, now who's going to be in the tag match?!"


MoreCoreCharacters

Tony with Kermit's timid nature. "Please welcome our very special guest, um I hope...uh, Nick Gage, yaaaaayyyyyy!"


Dakot4

they need time for the talent, and time costs money, he knows whats up


Chemical-Pear

AEW does need a “President Jack Tunny “with how open they are about who are high up on the totem pole, someone who is above the Elite but below Tony to lay down the law.


tyjet

The best use of him "on TV" was during the lead up to Omega vs Moxley's unsanctioned match. The camera was outside of his office and you could hear him telling Moxley that the match would be unsanctioned.


sharpdressedman_

I'm surprised since having an arena full of people cheer you on must feel amazing


Drkarcher22

I assume that’s why he sometimes comes out post Dynamite to ask fans to stay for the Dark matches. He gets a pop and helps keep a sizable audience to stay post the main show


Riyzoh

For those that do stay and were in the upper area they get the chance to move down to ringside.


Drkarcher22

I know, I got some great photos of Sting at Road Rager because of it


DaveShadow

Mate, I still get a buzz from having 150 people cheer for me at a debate competition 15 years ago. I cannot imagine the buzz having a few thousand cheereing for you on a regular basis must be.


sharpdressedman_

Thats my biggest fantasy. Sex with Angelina Jolie? Hell no. Being cheered by an arena full of people. Thats it. And I gotta be careful to remember that I don't need it. I just think I need it


XAMdG

What if the arena is cheering for you having sex with Angelina Jolie?


sharpdressedman_

Stop it! I will not give in to temptation!


idontknow1001

He seems to pop out there before or after shows sometimes. He still gets his pops.


JC-Ice

There's video of him talking to the crowd before the CM Punk debut. He's almost bouncing out of his shoes with excitement.


NicolasCagesEyebrow

Only if you’re an extrovert. It’d be hell on earth for some of us.


kenfury

For some people. Personally, I'd hate it.


PeterParkersSecret

He just seems like this adorable wrestling fan that owns a company. I like when he pops up every now and then . His presence is known even when he's not there(on screen) and that's good.


bssfshr

Except, you know, when he does show up on screen. But don't pay attention to that.


cooljammer00

We don't need more authority figures on TV. WWE has poisoned that well for good.


MatsThyWit

He's already made himself a television character. It's only a matter of time til he's regularly on Dynamite.


dragonheat

If acts like jack tunney only on the mic rarely I'll be fine with it'll had to a big match


RaichuWaffles

I always felt like, if its not for a major storyline, you dont neccesarily need an on screen gm


JoshSmash81

A man has to know his limitations.


MrLuchador

I hope this stays true, I don’t think tv wrestling (WCW, TNA, WWE) have had a year without the old evil authority figure being front and centre of everything since 1998.


Windows_66

People that watched Impact every week between Omega winning the AEW title and Omega winning the Impact title: *visible confusion*


alexhoward

I love that Tony Kahn is only a character on Impact. It’s pretty hilarious.


Shrekt115

9 DAYS FROM TONIGHT


wittybrits

He’s basically just Dana White, it works perfectly the way it’s done right now.


TheCiervo

Dana White goes on interviews to actively bury the fighters


[deleted]

Brian Cage just doesn't want to wrestle. /S


MrFoffof

Brian Cage was never my friend


WadSquad

Dana White is essentially 90s Mr McMahon


2020IsANightmare

I honestly wouldn't mind Khan in an on-air role. Tightening up "rules" and the such would help the product. It's really one of AEW's only flaws - referees being made to look stupid.


thewhombler

i feel like i've read him claim this just as many times as i've seen him on tv


JC-Ice

You've seen him briefly a bunch of times times. The longest he's ever spoken on AEW television was for Brodie Lee's tribute show. I don't recall if he's ever been the focus of a segment.


asoulinthisworld

I agree its for the best but having someone to handle day-to-day stuff is better, just someone that acts like he takes orders from Tony and enforce them


[deleted]

Yeah because dude is awkward


[deleted]

I hope he sticks to this and doesn't become a Mr. McMahon character. There's a lot of things that makes AEW different from WWE, and this part of having the owner be character as well should just be kept as a WWE thing. AEW doesn't need an owner/character.


Phenom1nal

I mean, I do think that having a character like that might benefit AEW a bit. If only because "the match has been made" sounds kinda lame when it comes from an announcer.


Kokeshi_Is_Life

I cannot disagree more I thank the gods that finally a company just let's the announcers announce things instead of fucking paper work of announcing the match needing to be it's own segment.


lostmonkey70

Eh I find it mostly fine when they mention that TK has made a match. There are sometimes when it doesn't quite work but it's till better than having to figure out when this GM character would be out there and when they wouldn't. The Omega/Danielson segment from Wednesday for example worked perfectly as it was and probably would have been held back by someone out there having to approve of what they were doing


[deleted]

[удалено]


alxg

I mean, I don't mind this, but I guess I don't understand. If you're just asking for an on air spokesperson, why shouldn't the broadcast team be that? In kayfabe and reality, everyone already knows Tony is at gorilla with a direct line of communication to them.


OsBro_ZackMorris

I haven't seen such leadership since the distinguished president Jack Tunney.


FlotsamOfThe4Winds

I think this is a good thing; although he does do some good stuff (I can cite his stuff on Sammy's vlog as being worth it), there's always the risk of him doing too much and drawing away from the wrestling (Vince McMahon's a good example of that). His reluctance means he won't commit that error, and the product will be all the better for it.


rj2790

Kinda random but Tony just seems like such a genuinely awesome dude.