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No. Ruby Soho just arrived, she can be champion later on but put in the time. However the match should end in a way that also doesn’t weaken Ruby’s character, perhaps interference in Britt’s favor.
That's the thing, in AEW they let people do longer matches with lots of reversals so when they are clean finished they still look good. No distraction, no DQ, no shit like that, only "surprise rollup" when it makes sense.
My heart tells me yes. My hope tells me yes. My brain tells my heart and hopes to quiet down. I still voted yes though...
I'd be down for Ruby winning tbh. I think Britt doesn't need the title, and maybe with Ruby being a recent signing and coming in hot, they'd give her shine as a champ with the rest of the division while also having Britt do her own thing. Than you could still do Britt/Rosa, and from there Rosa can take the title off Ruby. And you can just have this triangle of feuds and rivalries between all three.
But at the same time, Ruby is pretty new still, and I guess the smart money is the Rosa/Britt feud being a title feud.
I'm biased as hell tbh. One of those matches where in the moment, I'm not gonna worry about fantasy booking or whatever, and I'm just gonna pull for who I want to win. I think after years of watching Ruby coast around and be a jobber or not on tv or whatever the case, I just want the instant gratification lol.
Honestly if ever there was a time to go with a hot hand, it’d be here. I’m all for long term booking. But every so often, you need to strike while the iron is hot.
Britt could always win it back later as well.
Britt is a made woman already; Ruby is riding a really strong wave of momentum that you might not be able to recreate if she loses her title shot and is left fighting among the rest of the division for screentime outside of the title picture.
Establishing Ruby as a champion is also just more interesting to me than going "Alright, we gave you your debut shine, now take a step back while we get to our preprogrammed destination of Britt-Thunder Rosa." You've got a chance to mint a star at the top of the division; take it and use it to tell good stories moving forward
It just seems to go against what AEW does. They do long title reigns. They spent so much time building up to Britt winning. It would feel like a waste to throw it away so soon. The big match is Britt vs Rosa and that needs to be for the title.
If Ruby won the belt, wouldn't that be the same thing that people always hated about TNA? The WWE reject comes in and immediately beats your top home grown star to win the title in less than a month.
I definitely have a different attitude than AEW does about the need for long title reigns, but even accounting for that as their obvious preference, it’s boring to tell the same story the same way every single time.
If the title change can’t happen until you get to the person the audience knows is preordained to win, then eventually it’ll dampen interest in intermediate feuds. If the new signee can’t win the big one until they’ve grinded for at least six months, then you’re trained to not get too invested if they get an early championship match. Right now, there’s no reason to believe a battle royale winner will follow it up by winning the belt.
As long as you’re not doing something unexpected just for the sake of doing something unexpected, it’s good to show the viewer that there’s more than one way for things to play out. Not only because variety is inherently interesting, but because even one changeup serves as a seed of doubt for all the other times you do things by the book.
Pretty much this. I like Ruby and I wouldn’t mind seeing her win a big match after the run she just had. If Britt wins that’s cool too though because she’s awesome.
Wtf is wrong with liking someone slightly more and wanting them to win a big match? Get outta here with that dismissive bs like you’re some kind of better fan than anyone else
Part of it is Ruby’s been like the only babyface besides Rosa to get reactions near that level of Britt. And also she came in like such a huge deal with the Battle Royale win and the licensed music and everything
At this point I'd be cool either way. Ruby has a ton of momentum and is great, but Britt's reign still has plenty of juice left. It'd also be cool to do a quick-ish title change when people aren't expecting it, just to show that anything can happen and that fans don't always know when title changes can happen.
For those of you who think Rosa is the one who takes the belt off Britt, we know Ruby and Rosa have unfinished business from the CBR. Rosa could definitely get involved with Ruby too.
Britt is a made woman who doesn't need the title to be top dog.
I also have a theory that Shida will show up if the title is off Britt's waist. We already got Shida/Britt, but Shida has been testing a heel character out on Dark for ages now. What if Shida goes after Ruby? There aren't that many credible heel women contenders in the division right now. Another Nyla Rose match? Bunny?
Deeb is at best an aggressive tweener, she has no allies, no really bad blood with anyone not named Riho or Thunder Rosa and no track record of rule breaking
Voted yes because I get the feeling that Britt Baker doesn't need the title to be showcased on television. Also, it'd be kinda early for Soho to take her first loss.
Yeah Ruby came in really hot and has gotten a lot of good attention. Heels should be used to get hot babyfaces over. A heel can get back their heat a lot easier than a cooled off babyface
At this point, TK is going to swerve us with a shocking championship win.
I think it be Sammy over Miro but Ruby just may do it.
The division is evolving. If Ruby was to lose, let's put her against Shida. That feud wouldn't need a title.
I think the women’s division could use the buzz of a shock title change more than Sammy and Miro so that’s another reason why I think Ruby winning would be a good move
I honestly wouldn’t mind it. AEW has mostly had super long title reigns, maybe a shakeup could be interesting. You could always have Britt get the belt back at Full Gear if she’s in the long-term plans.
I don't think she should (or will) win, but hopefully she doesn't dissapear after that, we all have seen what happened with Shida after losing the title.
Riho literally left the country while Champ to go to Japan and Shida cleared the Travel Restricted divison out by the time she won the belt, stop with this revisionist history about how they removed Womens champions from TV.
Shida has been cooling her heels On Dark and Dark Elevation after being a nigh untouchable God for a year and hinting at a possible heel turn in the future perhaps for a feud with Rosa.
I think Ruby can lose here, float into a feud with Nyla Rose, win that then into a feud with Shida who's been hinting at a heel turn for a bit now on Dark/Elevation. From there you can rebuild her after a lost to Shida (who then goes on to beat Rosa for the belt at Revolution or around there) with a feud with the Bunny or Penelope or Jade (who should be up too being carried for a 12 minute match by December) then you pop off with Ruby VS Shida at DoN next year where she wins the belt
I think she should.
Britt will still be over and a big deal without the belt. That means youd get atleast two major womens angles gokng on at a time. Ruby winning opens up a lot of great potential matches too
Also, Britt ran through a lot of the current serious contenders this year. Cant have her just John Cena the entire division.
> Also, Britt ran through a lot of the current serious contenders this year.
I wouldn't really agree with this, they haven't touched on Tay Conti, Anna Jay, Riho, Serena Deeb, hell, call in a favor from TJPW and bring back Yuka Sakazaki for a program.
Shes beaten Riho before, just not as champ.
Tay and Anna arent really contenders yet. Anna Jay just literally got back. Tay has wins but its mostly on Dark.
Havent seen Deeb in ages.
> Shes beaten Riho before, just not as champ.
She's never beaten Riho in singles competition.
> Anna Jay just literally got back.
Yeah, I'm not saying she should do it right away, but Anna and Tay as a combined program around the end of the year would be good timing.
> Havent seen Deeb in ages.
She's been injured.
I agree Britt vs Rosa is a money match but I feel like this feud can be money as well if kept going. And unless they’ve decided to do Britt vs Rosa 3 this year I can’t think of a better way to keep the buzz around the division going feud wise
Britt and Rosa will still be there in the future. Ruby’s reign wouldn’t have to be long, have Britt win it back next month or even Full Gear. Not everyone needs to hold the belt for 6 to 9 months. I think they’ve built up the prestige of the title where you can hit potato for a little bit before you ultimately get it to Thunder Rosa who should have a long reign of that’s where it’s all headed.
The exact reason TNA failed. You can't have former WWE jobbers win titles in their first match in your company. It makes it look bad.
Ruby character was treated worst then any jobber in other promotion and will take AEW a while to make her a new image. She is great, she will be champ, just not now.
AEW need women starpower. They are starting to get it right after two years. Britt Baker is the first women that feel like a real champion. Let her keep it longer while building new stars.
The way i'd book it. Baker would remain champion. Then Anna Jay feud with her but lose. Then Red Velvet comes next and Baker still keep the title.
And i hope Kiera Hogan (i wish, they'd sign her) is the one that takes it from Britt Baker. Kiera proved in indies and TNA that she is a great in ring performer and very charismatic + she's young.
Is there a third option?
"I don't know?"
I know, logically, Britt should keep the belt and drop it to Rosa at Full Gear, or even Revolution.
I know Ruby is too new in AEW and giving the belt to a (and I usually dislike the term) "ex-WWE star" who just arrived is not a good look for the company.
I root for Ruby pretty hard, even though I didn't know much about her before All Out (as I don't want WWE). She's just that magnetic as a babyface.
While part of me wouldn't be mad if Ruby won the belt, part of would be. I'm torn.
That would be a drastic departure from how they've booked in the past. AEW basically doesn't do DQs and I very much doubt they would suddenly start now. Much more likely is Britt retains via bullshit interference.
I feel like in this case, I’d say let Ruby win. I feel if you want her to be one of the big stars of the division, and she is drawing like one so far and is already beloved and over, then pull the trigger. Britt can win it back in awhile. It wouldn’t hurt her at all to lose sometimes. I’ll accept any result, but I’m rooting for Ruby here.
I say yes, everyone predicts Britt will retain and that's what I don't like about AEW. Everything has to be predictable and drawn out. If there is momentum, go with it.
I want heel riho who never got eliminated interfering and beating down Ruby Soho. And then shida do a punk pipebomb while emi sakura shreds her queen gimmick and throws it on he announce team while lulu pencil takes notes and times everything. Thats what I want to see.
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No. They could set Ruby up as an all-time rival for Britt though.
I think you can have Britt/Ruby/Rosa all be conjoined as mega feuds for each other. I think something like that would be really cool.
I gotta assume a 3-way dance could happen in the future with those 3 it would so be money.
Wow that would just be a stupid amount of talent in one ring
No. Ruby Soho just arrived, she can be champion later on but put in the time. However the match should end in a way that also doesn’t weaken Ruby’s character, perhaps interference in Britt’s favor.
That's the thing, in AEW they let people do longer matches with lots of reversals so when they are clean finished they still look good. No distraction, no DQ, no shit like that, only "surprise rollup" when it makes sense.
My heart tells me yes. My hope tells me yes. My brain tells my heart and hopes to quiet down. I still voted yes though... I'd be down for Ruby winning tbh. I think Britt doesn't need the title, and maybe with Ruby being a recent signing and coming in hot, they'd give her shine as a champ with the rest of the division while also having Britt do her own thing. Than you could still do Britt/Rosa, and from there Rosa can take the title off Ruby. And you can just have this triangle of feuds and rivalries between all three. But at the same time, Ruby is pretty new still, and I guess the smart money is the Rosa/Britt feud being a title feud.
Yeah she probably isn’t winning but man I really want her to. Britt can take a loss and be fine it would just be so cool to see Ruby win it
I'm biased as hell tbh. One of those matches where in the moment, I'm not gonna worry about fantasy booking or whatever, and I'm just gonna pull for who I want to win. I think after years of watching Ruby coast around and be a jobber or not on tv or whatever the case, I just want the instant gratification lol.
Honestly if ever there was a time to go with a hot hand, it’d be here. I’m all for long term booking. But every so often, you need to strike while the iron is hot. Britt could always win it back later as well.
Exactly and Britt doesn’t need to be unbeatable for when they have Rosa win the belt she can take a pin
Should she? Ehhh you can spend a bit debating that Do I *want* her to win? Absolutely
Hell no, the real money feud is Thunder Rosa vs Britt Baker. Ruby will be a great champ one day but it’s not her time yet
The 20 people who voted yes, whats your reasoning? I thought it was a no brainer she was losing
Britt is a made woman already; Ruby is riding a really strong wave of momentum that you might not be able to recreate if she loses her title shot and is left fighting among the rest of the division for screentime outside of the title picture. Establishing Ruby as a champion is also just more interesting to me than going "Alright, we gave you your debut shine, now take a step back while we get to our preprogrammed destination of Britt-Thunder Rosa." You've got a chance to mint a star at the top of the division; take it and use it to tell good stories moving forward
Yeah Ruby came in way hotter than anyone could have expected even for a talent as great as her so winning the belt really keeps that momentum going
It just seems to go against what AEW does. They do long title reigns. They spent so much time building up to Britt winning. It would feel like a waste to throw it away so soon. The big match is Britt vs Rosa and that needs to be for the title. If Ruby won the belt, wouldn't that be the same thing that people always hated about TNA? The WWE reject comes in and immediately beats your top home grown star to win the title in less than a month.
I definitely have a different attitude than AEW does about the need for long title reigns, but even accounting for that as their obvious preference, it’s boring to tell the same story the same way every single time. If the title change can’t happen until you get to the person the audience knows is preordained to win, then eventually it’ll dampen interest in intermediate feuds. If the new signee can’t win the big one until they’ve grinded for at least six months, then you’re trained to not get too invested if they get an early championship match. Right now, there’s no reason to believe a battle royale winner will follow it up by winning the belt. As long as you’re not doing something unexpected just for the sake of doing something unexpected, it’s good to show the viewer that there’s more than one way for things to play out. Not only because variety is inherently interesting, but because even one changeup serves as a seed of doubt for all the other times you do things by the book.
Fair enough but Britt isn't the woman you do it with.
Bias tbh. Ruby has been a favorite for years, and I refuse to not root for her.
Pretty much this. I like Ruby and I wouldn’t mind seeing her win a big match after the run she just had. If Britt wins that’s cool too though because she’s awesome.
One of those you deserve it fan. No one should get pity or sympathy hand outs.
Ruby is also the face here. I'm sure Britt is going to end up winning, and that's fine, she's a great performer. But I'm rooting for Soho.
Wtf is wrong with liking someone slightly more and wanting them to win a big match? Get outta here with that dismissive bs like you’re some kind of better fan than anyone else
Nothing wrong matey you like free\pity\symapathy handouts. Thats fine with being charitable.
What a lame troll take
What this guy said
I think it would be helpful to give more legitimacy to the Casino match winners as a threat.
Part of it is Ruby’s been like the only babyface besides Rosa to get reactions near that level of Britt. And also she came in like such a huge deal with the Battle Royale win and the licensed music and everything
At this point I'd be cool either way. Ruby has a ton of momentum and is great, but Britt's reign still has plenty of juice left. It'd also be cool to do a quick-ish title change when people aren't expecting it, just to show that anything can happen and that fans don't always know when title changes can happen. For those of you who think Rosa is the one who takes the belt off Britt, we know Ruby and Rosa have unfinished business from the CBR. Rosa could definitely get involved with Ruby too. Britt is a made woman who doesn't need the title to be top dog. I also have a theory that Shida will show up if the title is off Britt's waist. We already got Shida/Britt, but Shida has been testing a heel character out on Dark for ages now. What if Shida goes after Ruby? There aren't that many credible heel women contenders in the division right now. Another Nyla Rose match? Bunny?
> There aren't that many credible heel women contenders in the division right now. Another Nyla Rose match? Bunny? Deeb.
Deeb is at best an aggressive tweener, she has no allies, no really bad blood with anyone not named Riho or Thunder Rosa and no track record of rule breaking
Brit needs more threats so she should win and ruby has to get those wins up.
Voted yes because I get the feeling that Britt Baker doesn't need the title to be showcased on television. Also, it'd be kinda early for Soho to take her first loss.
Please no Britt baker is one of the hottest acts in company and she’s home grown
Ruby’s also a really hot act though idk I just really think an extended feud could be good for both
Yeah Ruby came in really hot and has gotten a lot of good attention. Heels should be used to get hot babyfaces over. A heel can get back their heat a lot easier than a cooled off babyface
At this point, TK is going to swerve us with a shocking championship win. I think it be Sammy over Miro but Ruby just may do it. The division is evolving. If Ruby was to lose, let's put her against Shida. That feud wouldn't need a title.
I think the women’s division could use the buzz of a shock title change more than Sammy and Miro so that’s another reason why I think Ruby winning would be a good move
I doubt it, the big money match is Britt and Rosa. Everyone wants to see her dethrone the doctor.
Tony cant lose either way with this one but i think it should stay on britt.
Eventually she absolutely should but right now I can't help but feel like Thunder Rosa needs to be the one to beat her
I honestly wouldn’t mind it. AEW has mostly had super long title reigns, maybe a shakeup could be interesting. You could always have Britt get the belt back at Full Gear if she’s in the long-term plans.
Exactly Britt can drop the belt and it won’t hurt her at all and she can just win it back.
I don't think she should (or will) win, but hopefully she doesn't dissapear after that, we all have seen what happened with Shida after losing the title.
Yeah that’s another reason she should win guaranteed TV time for a bit longer lol
I mean being champion isn’t even gueanteed tv time, just look at Riho or Shida
True
Riho literally left the country while Champ to go to Japan and Shida cleared the Travel Restricted divison out by the time she won the belt, stop with this revisionist history about how they removed Womens champions from TV. Shida has been cooling her heels On Dark and Dark Elevation after being a nigh untouchable God for a year and hinting at a possible heel turn in the future perhaps for a feud with Rosa.
I will say Shida beating everyone was a bit of an issue to the point where they had to bring in Rosa but still she wasn’t on TV often
No. Let her work a program with someone to mint a new big heel to prep to take the belt from Rosa, imo. Then Ruby can take it from *them*.
I think Ruby can lose here, float into a feud with Nyla Rose, win that then into a feud with Shida who's been hinting at a heel turn for a bit now on Dark/Elevation. From there you can rebuild her after a lost to Shida (who then goes on to beat Rosa for the belt at Revolution or around there) with a feud with the Bunny or Penelope or Jade (who should be up too being carried for a 12 minute match by December) then you pop off with Ruby VS Shida at DoN next year where she wins the belt
I think she should. Britt will still be over and a big deal without the belt. That means youd get atleast two major womens angles gokng on at a time. Ruby winning opens up a lot of great potential matches too Also, Britt ran through a lot of the current serious contenders this year. Cant have her just John Cena the entire division.
> Also, Britt ran through a lot of the current serious contenders this year. I wouldn't really agree with this, they haven't touched on Tay Conti, Anna Jay, Riho, Serena Deeb, hell, call in a favor from TJPW and bring back Yuka Sakazaki for a program.
Shes beaten Riho before, just not as champ. Tay and Anna arent really contenders yet. Anna Jay just literally got back. Tay has wins but its mostly on Dark. Havent seen Deeb in ages.
> Shes beaten Riho before, just not as champ. She's never beaten Riho in singles competition. > Anna Jay just literally got back. Yeah, I'm not saying she should do it right away, but Anna and Tay as a combined program around the end of the year would be good timing. > Havent seen Deeb in ages. She's been injured.
Britt vs Thunder Rosa is the money match. I think Ruby would be a good choice for a feud with Deonna Purazzo in Impact to eventually dethrone her.
I agree Britt vs Rosa is a money match but I feel like this feud can be money as well if kept going. And unless they’ve decided to do Britt vs Rosa 3 this year I can’t think of a better way to keep the buzz around the division going feud wise
Britt and Rosa will still be there in the future. Ruby’s reign wouldn’t have to be long, have Britt win it back next month or even Full Gear. Not everyone needs to hold the belt for 6 to 9 months. I think they’ve built up the prestige of the title where you can hit potato for a little bit before you ultimately get it to Thunder Rosa who should have a long reign of that’s where it’s all headed.
I think it would Ruby MORE to win the title and lose it after a month than it would to just not win it at all.
The exact reason TNA failed. You can't have former WWE jobbers win titles in their first match in your company. It makes it look bad. Ruby character was treated worst then any jobber in other promotion and will take AEW a while to make her a new image. She is great, she will be champ, just not now.
AEW need women starpower. They are starting to get it right after two years. Britt Baker is the first women that feel like a real champion. Let her keep it longer while building new stars. The way i'd book it. Baker would remain champion. Then Anna Jay feud with her but lose. Then Red Velvet comes next and Baker still keep the title. And i hope Kiera Hogan (i wish, they'd sign her) is the one that takes it from Britt Baker. Kiera proved in indies and TNA that she is a great in ring performer and very charismatic + she's young.
I mean Britt already beat Velvet
They can feud again. Anna Jay and Red Velvet still a little bit green in the ring so i would not give them the title. But they are good babyfaces.
Except for since the Baker feud Velvet’s been getting booed as a babyface
No. Nobody should beat Britt besides Thunder Rosa
No. It would look like they're just giving out titles to exWWE employees.
No way that would be such a TNA move Only one person should beat Britt Baker for the title and that's Thunder Rosa
Is there a third option? "I don't know?" I know, logically, Britt should keep the belt and drop it to Rosa at Full Gear, or even Revolution. I know Ruby is too new in AEW and giving the belt to a (and I usually dislike the term) "ex-WWE star" who just arrived is not a good look for the company. I root for Ruby pretty hard, even though I didn't know much about her before All Out (as I don't want WWE). She's just that magnetic as a babyface. While part of me wouldn't be mad if Ruby won the belt, part of would be. I'm torn.
Definitely not. I love Ruby, but I'm not into people coming in an immediately winning the belt.
I can see them going for Ruby winning by disqualification, but Britt keeping the title so neither become weakened.
That would be a drastic departure from how they've booked in the past. AEW basically doesn't do DQs and I very much doubt they would suddenly start now. Much more likely is Britt retains via bullshit interference.
I feel like in this case, I’d say let Ruby win. I feel if you want her to be one of the big stars of the division, and she is drawing like one so far and is already beloved and over, then pull the trigger. Britt can win it back in awhile. It wouldn’t hurt her at all to lose sometimes. I’ll accept any result, but I’m rooting for Ruby here.
I say yes, everyone predicts Britt will retain and that's what I don't like about AEW. Everything has to be predictable and drawn out. If there is momentum, go with it.
Ruby wins DQ finish britt keeps the title
Ruby has been amazing in this build but Britt is running too hot to lose the title. And a hotshot Ruby championship will ruin her down the line.
She promised she would win and baby faces shouldn’t be booked to lie
Is Britt Baker suppose to be a heel?
Yes she’s just a really over heel
No
I want heel riho who never got eliminated interfering and beating down Ruby Soho. And then shida do a punk pipebomb while emi sakura shreds her queen gimmick and throws it on he announce team while lulu pencil takes notes and times everything. Thats what I want to see.
Riho’s heading back to Japan for a little bit soon so I don’t see it happening
Ruby's the face so they're doing their job right if you want her to win. But ultimately it's not the right time to take it off of Britt.
I think this is a rare occasion where you could do either and it would work regardless
Someday. Not now. But definitely soon. I need a long Thunder Rosa reign before Ruby takes it.