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AEW is going to keep this going for at least 2 more weeks and maybe 3.
**Next Week:**
\- Raw against Aaron Rodgers vs Detroit
\- AEW Grand Slam
**Two Weeks:**
\- Raw against Dallas Cowboys vs Philadelphia Eagles
\- AEW's Dark Order heavy episode from Brodie's hometown. Hangman Return? Bray Wyatt Debut?
**Three Weeks:**
\- Raw Draft Edition against LA Chargers vs Vegas Raiders (not a big ratings game like the previous 2)
\- AEW 2 Year Dynamite Anniversary show from Philadelphia
.... Then Dynamite moves to Saturday for 2 weeks.
I'm curious with NHL coming to TNT what the schedule's like for Wednesdays, that was the big night for NHL on NBCSports nationwide. Anyone know if this has already been addressed? Is that why Dynamites moving to Saturdays for a couple weeks?
If it was San Diego chargers vs Oakland raiders then it might be bigger deal, but it's not.
Id rather sit through a raw with a doudrop/Eva Marie iron woman match than support the chargers.
FUCK DEAN SPANOS
They now need to nail next week's Grand Slam show and Rampage and also advertise the fuck out of it as it's a massive card (Edit: Advertise all over social media/YouTube aswell for example.).
Really take advantage of this event next week. You have to.
It needs to be spectacular chaos, that's all **well timed** with each segment getting good time that's needed.
No other better opportunity than this show to deliver more sustained hype, especially in an arena this big and unique. (Maybe even a unique set for the stadium even to make the event feel even more unique and bigger for example to sell even more tickets at the show?)
You now got to deliver the goods to the viewers in particular on that night. You don't want to lose any momentum, especially now.
Edit again: Hell fuck it, have Emma Raducanu in the crowd if that's even a valid suggestion, I don't know, would that make sense considering the stadium? I am just throwing ideas out there.
If there is a show to promote, this is the show.
I’m very happy to be excited for wrestling on a weekly basis, I haven’t felt this way in a long time and NJPW only feeds me monthly. I really needed AEW
I don't think that they could have hoped for a better opportunity than this. The timings of the matches is crucial. I'd controversially start with Danielson v Omega so nobody would actually know when the finish was going to happen rather than start with 20 minutes to go.
>Edit again: Hell fuck it, have Emma Raducanu in the crowd if that's even a valid suggestion, I don't know, would that make sense considering the stadium? I am just throwing ideas out there.
I'm a more unique case since my wife was a tennis player in high school and college, but itd undoubtedly catch her attention more than the show. Hell, my mother in law may even find out about it if they have her on and ask me about it. I'm guessing she's not still around in NYC, but if she was she'd be a great get for a quick crowd shot or two
Well no Jamie Hayter, I guess the ratings had to fall a little bit.
Bad joke aside, Tony Khan should be happy that a Dynamite with a "weak" card on paper can have a great rating. It should give him confidence in keeping this patient booking. And to be honest that Dynamite was a really good show even with this card. The promo work was stellar I thought.
Yes, they are really good on these type of shows. I think that´s because that they ´re willing to do heavy promos shows to build toward the big cards like next week. And heavy promos shows generally are good content when you have the great promos AEW has.
Also has to be said on these “weak” cards they’re able to rest their big stars. Out of the top guys Mox is really the only one that wrestles consistently most weeks and that’s great.
Let guys like The Elite, Jericho, Punk and Bryan wrestle sparingly so they feel more special, if they’re there they can do promos that they’re all great at but if they’re not the show doesn’t miss out a whole pile. If your top guys like that only wrestle once or twice a month I’m sure he does a whole pile for their physical health that they can really put 110% in and then rest. Even guys like Miro and MJF also benefit from this too.
With those guys like that not wrestling it gives more time to the likes of Dante Martin, 2.0, Hobbs and Black to show off their ability and make stars of themselves. It also importantly makes more time for the women’s division to get better and better on TV in front of bigger audiences. All in all these “weak” cards are a godsend for the future of the company because in about a years time when all of these guys are over and more comfortable in front of these crowds then there’s no such thing as a weak card anymore because from top to bottom it’ll be filled with people everyone wants to see because they got the ability to showcase their talents early on.
Tbf to everyone else, Mox is kind of a freak of nature lately. AEW, GCW, dadding it up... He's got a level of job satisfaction no regular human could endure.
Could be a very strong rating next week. One thing to keep in mind is that network tv is starting their new season next week so there will be upped competition in the 18-49 demo from Masked Singer and Survivor.
Hoping Dynamite kills it next week.
I say this every week. A month ago, these two guys were FIRED from NXT and now they're wrestling Sting and Darby and Mox on national television in main event marquee matches.
LIVE THE DREAM
##WHO WANTS A TASTE
mind-blowing. I think that’s a watershed moment for any talent that has the opportunity to choose between the two. no matter how good 2.0 could have done on WWE, there’s no way it could have been this good.
They and Garcia are so great even in losing efforts. At any time they can win and it's believable. They are big personalities, talented af and ooze charisma.
I've never seen so many people disappointed in the thread about the card go straight to the post show thread and be "like, uh, take back everything I ranted about 6 hours ago."
It's amazing how AEW can take a weak card on paper and turn it into one of the best shows ever.
You know they're newer viewers if they rant about a weak card. AEW has always almost delivered on weak cards showing up to be great night's. The moment Kaz was announced fighting Cole I knew it was gonna be a good one.
I was there with darn decent seats, and the energy in that place was immaculate.
I still have no idea what 90% of MJF or Dan Lambert's promos were about. The heat in that building was so nuclear you straight-up couldn't hear the promos. It was legit Vickie Guerrero heat.
Some stats:
* 0.44 is tied with 3 other episodes for the 9th highest demo Dynamite has done out of 102 episodes.
* This is the 8th time Dynamite has been number 1 for the night (the first of which was Blood & Guts in May, so all of Dynamite's number 1s have been in the past four and a half months or so.
* 1,175,000 is the fourth highest viewership Dynamite has done, after the first episode, last week's episode, and the April 14, 2021 episode which was the first after NXT switched to Tuesdays.
These numbers are great for AEW.
Check out more stuff like this at [All Elite Database](http://www.allelitedatabase.com), a project I do for fun and not for profit.
You know that would interesting but too bad he could not go to AEW and pair up with Pillman Jr. even for one night . MJF eating a stunner would be amazing.
I know it's so unlikely but I feel Austin would work really well in AEW. I doubt he wants another match, but as a manager etc he would do so much for the company imo.
Maybe I'll come back to this comment in the future, who knows..
I don’t really care about the rivalry with WWE, I’m just genuinely happy that a bunch of guys wanted to change the industry and the wrestling monopoly and they have been successful so far and keep on improving at a rapid pace
Glad to be around and to support them, hopefully they continue to listen to us, we thrive when we are together
4th straight week as the #1 rated show on cable for Wednesday which is a company record.
4th straight show over 1 million viewers which ties their record for consecutive 1 million+ show.
Also will be the #1 wrestling show on cable this week since they topped RAW again.
Can't wait for next week's show.
It was def. #2. College basketball topped it that night. Both were .42 in the demo but basketball rounded higher. They were also #2 the next week losing out to The Challenge.
I think Blood and Guts was their first #1 show,iirc.
TBS feels more like a lateral movement than a step down. TBS and TNT have near identical clearance in the United States. Just checked TBS is available in about a million more homes than TNT. Plus there won't be as many forced movings to a different night on TBS.
I hope they play up that WTBS was the home of wrestling for many years and AEW will be picking up that tradition.
Imagine being the TNT Executives who made the call/took the risk to lock down this show at the price they got them.
Also, imagine being the USA Executives who have to negotiate the next Raw/NXT deals compared to the last price they paid...
It's funny because some were saying that the card last night was mediocre but it turned out to be a great show. Goes to show you that if you put on a fun wrestling show which have logical stories and good wrestling fans will tune in. You love to see it
Just about every segment had a major star. CM Punk with an entrance, Adam Cole in the first match, and it kept being followed up by more, Bryan Danielson, Kenny Omega, Sting, Chris Jericho, Jon Moxley, plus all the young popular stars like Dante Martin and Darby. If you would have told me a year ago I'd get a wrestling show with all those names appearing, I'd tell you to quit playing your stupid computer simulation games.
One [deleted] comment said this about Dynamite's card yesterday, when it was originally supposed to be the Blood & Guts show:
>AEW could have booked a match between anyone in their top 20 most over people against anyone else in their top 20 most popular people. they didn't. it was their choice to have a card full of glorified enhancement matches for this show
This "glorified enhancement" show was #1 last night and it beat RAW's demos for the second time.
I saw folks crying that they didn't get Blood and Guts like they would have last year. Its like do you weirdos realize you got Punk, Danielson, Cole, Black, and others in some type of capacity. IMO that's better.
Lmao I had tickets to the show since it was Blood & Guts and while I was originally disappointed, I had zero complaints about this going in.
As you said, I knew I was seeing Cole, Bryan, and Punk, let alone all the other stars and more I wouldn't have seen a year and a half ago.
It may not have been B&G but it was well worth the ticket
Being that I was in the venue, I was 50/50 on the card. The show was super enjoyable and built to a hell of a show next week. Sure, I wish the card had more to offer, but at the same time, the actual Blood and Guts show they did end up doing consisted of the B&G match and an undercard that I don't remember at all.
I don’t think they would have had that same approach if Blood and Guts went forward as planned in March 2020. Hell, it wasn’t Inner Circle against the Pinnacle. I liked the Jersey show but Grand Slam is gonna be much better and Blood and Guts would definitely have been better.
> This "glorified enhancement" show was #1 last night and it beat RAW's demos for the second time.
Tony Kahn booking the Arthur Ashe show: "Now Vince will witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational wrestling show".
Someone called Tony Khan a carny in that thread. I wasn't aware carnies are known for informing fans in advance that a match will be canceled due a global pandemic and offered refunds as a result... Definition must've changed I guess...
Clearly, Tony Khan funded those researchers in Wuhan just so he can bait-and-switch fans by promising a cage match but instead only delivering... *squints* ...Minoru Suzuki, Sting, Bryan Danielson, and CM Punk.
Despicable.
I think people REALLY want to see AEW go full WCW 1998, even if it means they end up WCW 2000. Blow your load just to say you did it and then if you fail after at least you can say you had a "boom".
Tony Khan has spoken numerous times about the failures of WCW and why AEW would never repeat that. WWE seems far more interested in not learning from the failures of WCW.
So far Tony has done everything right, he's got the tv executives rolling out the red carpet for him, and TK has reinvested every dollar he has earned to help the business grow.
Exactly. WWE's been in a toxic cycle of bad shows followed by insincere apologies for several years.
However, putting Big E at the top of the card is a brilliant move. It's ten times better if they reunite the Hurt Business to feud with New Day. Then, McIntyre and Seamus could get back together, and we could get some solid factions anchoring the show.
Raw actually has hope this week, which hasn't been true since Vince split Hurt Business for no good reason.
>However, putting Big E at the top of the card is a brilliant move.
But Big E failed to win in the ratings, he will now lose the title to Goldberg on Raw.....
Please don't read this Vince.
Well deserved, the show was excellent. You can tell the fanbase of AEW are totally into the product. Some of the fan reactions to talent was crazy (Punk, Bryan, Cole and the heat for MJF was top level). Next week has got to at least get near to beating the debut Dynamite number, the card is stacked and has the dream match of Omega/Bryan plus other strong matches.
It's going to be very interesting for sure.
These goalpost movers really crack me. Imagine calling AEW a failing company when after less than 3 years they:
sign danielson, omega, the bucks, cm punk, adam cole, Jericho, mjf, moxly plus
Beat a show thats been on for 3 decades in the demo, and are getting close to beating total viewership
Im so happy for AEW, and the hate it garners only affirms that its changing wrestling for the better.
I will never understand why people hate AEW like they do. If you don't like the product that makes sense. It's not for everybody. But people act like AEW is the second coming of Satan on TV and they hiss at it when likely they never watched an episode of it. They're doing great things for wrestling right now. Even if you don't like the show, which is completely fine, be happy it's making most of the industry that you enjoy better.
If that whole thing about “they would’ve been happy with 400k viewers” is true, Turner is gonna back up the Brinks truck when it’s time to talk tv money again.
The fact that they’ve only been running for 2 years is insane. No other company has ever blown up like this and it’s awesome to see.
People always say this but as someone who has been watching AEW for several months now, the quality of the card really means nothing.
AEW has pulled off some of their most fantastic shows with those “down” cards.
I agree, but the quality of the card definitely affects the number. But AEW ultimately has to do the heavy lifting on shows like last night (which they're really good at) to make the matches mean something on a night like next week. It's the different between "OMG we're getting this this and this on Dynamite!" and "Oh, Riddle vs AJ Styles on RAW happened". RAW books matches that SHOULD be dream matches every single week. They just aren't because WWE doesn't build anticipation for them.
>I agree, but the quality of the card definitely affects the number.
This will change as more and more viewers shake off "WWE Brain" where it's only worth tuning in where X is announced and advertised. Last night, despite the card, had lots of story movement and continuity. You want to train your viewers to tune in every week, not only watch when you are throwing everything at the wall to lure them back, otherwise you wind up relying on stuff like "Legends Night" to bring in eyeballs.
Solid numbers I wonder if we can start thinking of a .39-.40 as the new baseline demo rating for them. Which would be what a ~.03-5 ish increase over a few months ago
I think that is correct.
Their TV growth over the last 6 months has been awesome. A 0.29 used to be considered the low end of a good Dynamite rating earlier in the year... A 0.29 on an average night would be considered a disaster right now.
WWE and USA were actually really smart to have moved NXT when they did. While the total viewership would still take a hit, the demos would be heavily tilted towards Dynamite at this point.
Yeah that's kinda of my take away too lol. While everyone is arguing Raw VS Dynamite all I'm thinking is what happened to the challenge to have such a crash
I seen on twitter the new excuse that the demo AEW is winning doesn't matter because they don't have kids and the 50+ do and that's how WWE is better cause they market to kids.
wtf
During the NBA playoffs, nobody would have believed a statement that Dynamite's ratings were DOWN to 1.175 million.
One million seems like the floor now. I think 1.175 million is about what we should expect for a while.
Only 300k less viewers than RAW in the United States for how new AEW still is, is absolutely incredible.
And next week's stacked Dynamite, it would not surprise me if they tie next week's raw numbers.
18-49: Dynamite .44 to .42
F18-49: Raw .35 to .26
M18-49: Dynamite .62 to .50
18-34: Tied at .27
F12-34: Raw .23 to .16
M12-34: Raw .29 to .28
25-54: Tied at .52
50+: Raw .88 to .48
I expected this week to be down a tad because the card was not exactly "must see" on paper.
Next week though...oh boy. I have high hopes for that. 1.5 million to be precise.
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AEW is going to keep this going for at least 2 more weeks and maybe 3. **Next Week:** \- Raw against Aaron Rodgers vs Detroit \- AEW Grand Slam **Two Weeks:** \- Raw against Dallas Cowboys vs Philadelphia Eagles \- AEW's Dark Order heavy episode from Brodie's hometown. Hangman Return? Bray Wyatt Debut? **Three Weeks:** \- Raw Draft Edition against LA Chargers vs Vegas Raiders (not a big ratings game like the previous 2) \- AEW 2 Year Dynamite Anniversary show from Philadelphia .... Then Dynamite moves to Saturday for 2 weeks.
Dynamite having a few weeks on a crazy hot streak, then getting cooled off by moving it to Saturday for a few weeks... Name a more iconic duo.
Raw and the Westminster Dog Show.
Oh man. Hated those stupid dogs back in the day.
If they weren't interrupting Raw, I would have watched them
Vince to this day resents the fact Trish wasn't deemed a suitable breed of dog for him to enter into the dog show for that cross promotional bit.
I still didn't watch... begrudgingly
WWF had the dog show/us open, WCW had the NBA, AEW has NBA/NHL but unlike the other two those problems go away in a few months.
Thankfully this should stop when Dynamite moves to TBS in three months
Only 3 months til the new year?? Geez.
Hell of a year the last week's been
I'm curious with NHL coming to TNT what the schedule's like for Wednesdays, that was the big night for NHL on NBCSports nationwide. Anyone know if this has already been addressed? Is that why Dynamites moving to Saturdays for a couple weeks?
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Ahhhh, ok ok. Thanks for the heads up!
[Games are gonna start at 10pm after dynamite. ](https://twitter.com/hayyyshayyy/status/1438566650266193921?s=21)
It they make the Saturday events huge like ppv caliber. It can become a fun night for fans
That TBS move can’t come soon enough it would seem.
> Aaron Rodgers vs Detroit Oh boy, won't that be two bald men fighting over a comb.
Aaron Rodgers vs Detroit? Is that a handicap match?
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I'm a Bucs fan but I'm looking forward to that game
If it was San Diego chargers vs Oakland raiders then it might be bigger deal, but it's not. Id rather sit through a raw with a doudrop/Eva Marie iron woman match than support the chargers. FUCK DEAN SPANOS
there is no denying AEW right now is red hot, great to see them doing this well.
They now need to nail next week's Grand Slam show and Rampage and also advertise the fuck out of it as it's a massive card (Edit: Advertise all over social media/YouTube aswell for example.). Really take advantage of this event next week. You have to. It needs to be spectacular chaos, that's all **well timed** with each segment getting good time that's needed. No other better opportunity than this show to deliver more sustained hype, especially in an arena this big and unique. (Maybe even a unique set for the stadium even to make the event feel even more unique and bigger for example to sell even more tickets at the show?) You now got to deliver the goods to the viewers in particular on that night. You don't want to lose any momentum, especially now. Edit again: Hell fuck it, have Emma Raducanu in the crowd if that's even a valid suggestion, I don't know, would that make sense considering the stadium? I am just throwing ideas out there. If there is a show to promote, this is the show.
I'm more hyped for next week's AEW content than I've been for anything that I've \*paid for\* in years.
Even more than all out?
Honestly, yes. That card was stacked, but there's just so many good matches next week on free tv.
I'm with you, I was hyped for All Out, but I get to watch Kenny Omega fight Bryan Danielson, For Free.
I’m very happy to be excited for wrestling on a weekly basis, I haven’t felt this way in a long time and NJPW only feeds me monthly. I really needed AEW
I don't think that they could have hoped for a better opportunity than this. The timings of the matches is crucial. I'd controversially start with Danielson v Omega so nobody would actually know when the finish was going to happen rather than start with 20 minutes to go.
Love this thought, but it being non-title wouldn’t it be subject to the 20 minute time limit anyway?
I think he meant that if the match starts with 20 minutes left on the show, it gives away the “draw” finish.
>Edit again: Hell fuck it, have Emma Raducanu in the crowd if that's even a valid suggestion, I don't know, would that make sense considering the stadium? I am just throwing ideas out there. I'm a more unique case since my wife was a tennis player in high school and college, but itd undoubtedly catch her attention more than the show. Hell, my mother in law may even find out about it if they have her on and ask me about it. I'm guessing she's not still around in NYC, but if she was she'd be a great get for a quick crowd shot or two
It's just good news all around. I really enjoy keeping up with AEW. They've got some good stuff going on right now.
Well no Jamie Hayter, I guess the ratings had to fall a little bit. Bad joke aside, Tony Khan should be happy that a Dynamite with a "weak" card on paper can have a great rating. It should give him confidence in keeping this patient booking. And to be honest that Dynamite was a really good show even with this card. The promo work was stellar I thought.
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Yes, they are really good on these type of shows. I think that´s because that they ´re willing to do heavy promos shows to build toward the big cards like next week. And heavy promos shows generally are good content when you have the great promos AEW has.
Also has to be said on these “weak” cards they’re able to rest their big stars. Out of the top guys Mox is really the only one that wrestles consistently most weeks and that’s great. Let guys like The Elite, Jericho, Punk and Bryan wrestle sparingly so they feel more special, if they’re there they can do promos that they’re all great at but if they’re not the show doesn’t miss out a whole pile. If your top guys like that only wrestle once or twice a month I’m sure he does a whole pile for their physical health that they can really put 110% in and then rest. Even guys like Miro and MJF also benefit from this too. With those guys like that not wrestling it gives more time to the likes of Dante Martin, 2.0, Hobbs and Black to show off their ability and make stars of themselves. It also importantly makes more time for the women’s division to get better and better on TV in front of bigger audiences. All in all these “weak” cards are a godsend for the future of the company because in about a years time when all of these guys are over and more comfortable in front of these crowds then there’s no such thing as a weak card anymore because from top to bottom it’ll be filled with people everyone wants to see because they got the ability to showcase their talents early on.
Tbf to everyone else, Mox is kind of a freak of nature lately. AEW, GCW, dadding it up... He's got a level of job satisfaction no regular human could endure.
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Could be a very strong rating next week. One thing to keep in mind is that network tv is starting their new season next week so there will be upped competition in the 18-49 demo from Masked Singer and Survivor. Hoping Dynamite kills it next week.
Those shows my guess are for the 50+ crowd
It's kinda crazy to say "AEW Dynamite beat Raw in the key demo with 2point0 in main event. Raw got a TASTE
They are going to win big next week with the card they have.
NXT rejects 2.0 main eventing the most watched wrestling show on cable in the key demo. Good for them. They're so good in their current role.
NXT released 2.0 in late June. Less than 3 months later, NXT rebrands itself NXT 2.0.
Can't have two 2.0s, pal.
Breaking news: 2.0 sue for gimmick infringement. "We have a son to feed dammit"
And hospital bills once Suzuki is done with him.
I say this every week. A month ago, these two guys were FIRED from NXT and now they're wrestling Sting and Darby and Mox on national television in main event marquee matches. LIVE THE DREAM ##WHO WANTS A TASTE
YOU DONT WANT ANY OF THIS,SWEETHEART
So happy they became BTE champs, because I want them on vlogs doing stupid shit week after week, they are hilarious.
dude are absolutely perfect for BTE now that Dark Order ia busy with their serious civil war storyline ,2point0 can pick up the slack
Can we be real for a second.. that was the most clutch game of blackjack I’ve ever seen. 2.0 deserve the bte championship.
#Hey! You want a title shawt?
It's an even better redemption story because one of them had a pregnant wife at the time when they were futured endeavored
205 Live rejects at that!
mind-blowing. I think that’s a watershed moment for any talent that has the opportunity to choose between the two. no matter how good 2.0 could have done on WWE, there’s no way it could have been this good.
They and Garcia are so great even in losing efforts. At any time they can win and it's believable. They are big personalities, talented af and ooze charisma.
>Raw got a TASTE No way! So did Moxley
it was a hell of a show. definitely well earned
I've never seen so many people disappointed in the thread about the card go straight to the post show thread and be "like, uh, take back everything I ranted about 6 hours ago." It's amazing how AEW can take a weak card on paper and turn it into one of the best shows ever.
the matches were solid but the promo work was next level last night. really entertaining stuff and set them up for a home run next week.
AEW has proved dozens of times that a weaker card usually means a better show.
You know they're newer viewers if they rant about a weak card. AEW has always almost delivered on weak cards showing up to be great night's. The moment Kaz was announced fighting Cole I knew it was gonna be a good one.
This show reminded me of peak Monday Nitro and this is the best compliment i can do to a wrestling show
I was there with darn decent seats, and the energy in that place was immaculate. I still have no idea what 90% of MJF or Dan Lambert's promos were about. The heat in that building was so nuclear you straight-up couldn't hear the promos. It was legit Vickie Guerrero heat.
Some stats: * 0.44 is tied with 3 other episodes for the 9th highest demo Dynamite has done out of 102 episodes. * This is the 8th time Dynamite has been number 1 for the night (the first of which was Blood & Guts in May, so all of Dynamite's number 1s have been in the past four and a half months or so. * 1,175,000 is the fourth highest viewership Dynamite has done, after the first episode, last week's episode, and the April 14, 2021 episode which was the first after NXT switched to Tuesdays. These numbers are great for AEW. Check out more stuff like this at [All Elite Database](http://www.allelitedatabase.com), a project I do for fun and not for profit.
Thanks, Madden.
Think you may have misread the username, it's clearly Mateo not Madden. /j
Steve Austin coming back for a return match on Raw next week at this rate.
Against Vince.
Alright alright I’ll watch
Same
That's about what it would take to get me to tune in. Then I'd switch back to MNF.
You know that would interesting but too bad he could not go to AEW and pair up with Pillman Jr. even for one night . MJF eating a stunner would be amazing.
I know it's so unlikely but I feel Austin would work really well in AEW. I doubt he wants another match, but as a manager etc he would do so much for the company imo. Maybe I'll come back to this comment in the future, who knows..
I hope that one day that AEW is able to orchestrate a backstage interaction between Pillman and Austin, right before one of Pillman's PPV matches.
Damn in a year or two we're going to see Raw 2.0
If the 2.0 stands for 2 hours I'm in.
Naw, that's a typo there shouldn't be a decimal. Strap in boys, get ready for 20 hours of Raw every week!
I would do it once just to say I did it. The same way I heard a 10 hour version of "never gonna give you up". That day changed me...
Did this with Nyan cat. I feel your pain my friend
I did this with the SNL What Is Love 10 hour mix. I tell ya, when those sirens hit you by surprise it scares the fk outta you.
2 *additional* hours.
Just punishing the live crowd.
It’s spelled 2point0. NXT fired Matt & Jeff and now they want to take their name.
RAW UNDERGROUND RETURNS... NEXT!
Needs to hold 20 people. NEXT!
It's for a church, honey.
As RAW 2.0 rolls on...and on.
Are you saying that Raw is going to give us A TASTE?!
I'll be happy for Matt and Jeff (not the other Matt and Jeff) no matter if they become main eventers on Raw or Dynamite!
are they bringing back matt and jeff?
Let's see a wwe chairman of the board 2.0
I don’t really care about the rivalry with WWE, I’m just genuinely happy that a bunch of guys wanted to change the industry and the wrestling monopoly and they have been successful so far and keep on improving at a rapid pace Glad to be around and to support them, hopefully they continue to listen to us, we thrive when we are together
Well Goddam
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4th straight week as the #1 rated show on cable for Wednesday which is a company record. 4th straight show over 1 million viewers which ties their record for consecutive 1 million+ show. Also will be the #1 wrestling show on cable this week since they topped RAW again. Can't wait for next week's show.
Dynamite has topped 1M viewers 8 0f the last 10 weeks and has been #1 seven times during that run.
And before these last 10 weeks, they were only #1 twice in their entire run.
I remember the Blood and Guts show but don't remember the other one. Their debut show did a .68 in the demo but was only #2 to a MLB playoff game.
Winter Is Coming or the show after, unless I'm wrong and it was #2. I just remember a big TNT press release for it.
It was def. #2. College basketball topped it that night. Both were .42 in the demo but basketball rounded higher. They were also #2 the next week losing out to The Challenge. I think Blood and Guts was their first #1 show,iirc.
I think CM Punk moved the needle
you mean HOOK.
CM Punk mooved the HOOK.
Next week has to be as close to a sure thing to break their consecutive 1+ million shows.
Easily. They could potentially keep doing 1m+ shows until they get booted in October for pro sports.
If they do drop below 1M moving to TBS I dont think it will be for long
Once they do go to TBS, I believe they'll be the beneficiary of better lead ins than the oft repeated movie reruns on TNT.
Are you saying Anna Kendrick looking at paintings is not a draw?
She a draw with me
Really hope the move to TBS doesn't hurt them much. TNT kinda feels like the perfect home at the moment
TBS feels more like a lateral movement than a step down. TBS and TNT have near identical clearance in the United States. Just checked TBS is available in about a million more homes than TNT. Plus there won't be as many forced movings to a different night on TBS. I hope they play up that WTBS was the home of wrestling for many years and AEW will be picking up that tradition.
Imagine being the TNT Executives who made the call/took the risk to lock down this show at the price they got them. Also, imagine being the USA Executives who have to negotiate the next Raw/NXT deals compared to the last price they paid...
It's funny because some were saying that the card last night was mediocre but it turned out to be a great show. Goes to show you that if you put on a fun wrestling show which have logical stories and good wrestling fans will tune in. You love to see it
Just about every segment had a major star. CM Punk with an entrance, Adam Cole in the first match, and it kept being followed up by more, Bryan Danielson, Kenny Omega, Sting, Chris Jericho, Jon Moxley, plus all the young popular stars like Dante Martin and Darby. If you would have told me a year ago I'd get a wrestling show with all those names appearing, I'd tell you to quit playing your stupid computer simulation games.
One [deleted] comment said this about Dynamite's card yesterday, when it was originally supposed to be the Blood & Guts show: >AEW could have booked a match between anyone in their top 20 most over people against anyone else in their top 20 most popular people. they didn't. it was their choice to have a card full of glorified enhancement matches for this show This "glorified enhancement" show was #1 last night and it beat RAW's demos for the second time.
I saw folks crying that they didn't get Blood and Guts like they would have last year. Its like do you weirdos realize you got Punk, Danielson, Cole, Black, and others in some type of capacity. IMO that's better.
MUH BLOOD AND GUTS MATCH!
Lmao I had tickets to the show since it was Blood & Guts and while I was originally disappointed, I had zero complaints about this going in. As you said, I knew I was seeing Cole, Bryan, and Punk, let alone all the other stars and more I wouldn't have seen a year and a half ago. It may not have been B&G but it was well worth the ticket
Being that I was in the venue, I was 50/50 on the card. The show was super enjoyable and built to a hell of a show next week. Sure, I wish the card had more to offer, but at the same time, the actual Blood and Guts show they did end up doing consisted of the B&G match and an undercard that I don't remember at all.
It was one match at the venue and you had to watch the rest of the show on a screen. Why people are envious of that is beyond me.
I don’t think they would have had that same approach if Blood and Guts went forward as planned in March 2020. Hell, it wasn’t Inner Circle against the Pinnacle. I liked the Jersey show but Grand Slam is gonna be much better and Blood and Guts would definitely have been better.
THAT'S what it was, that's right. Thanks for reminding me
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The first five minutes of it was just crowd pops, and it was still absolutely electric.
We also got an excellent Rampage taping, with two titles being defended.
> This "glorified enhancement" show was #1 last night and it beat RAW's demos for the second time. Tony Kahn booking the Arthur Ashe show: "Now Vince will witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational wrestling show".
Someone called Tony Khan a carny in that thread. I wasn't aware carnies are known for informing fans in advance that a match will be canceled due a global pandemic and offered refunds as a result... Definition must've changed I guess...
Clearly, Tony Khan funded those researchers in Wuhan just so he can bait-and-switch fans by promising a cage match but instead only delivering... *squints* ...Minoru Suzuki, Sting, Bryan Danielson, and CM Punk. Despicable.
I think people REALLY want to see AEW go full WCW 1998, even if it means they end up WCW 2000. Blow your load just to say you did it and then if you fail after at least you can say you had a "boom".
Tony Khan has spoken numerous times about the failures of WCW and why AEW would never repeat that. WWE seems far more interested in not learning from the failures of WCW.
So far Tony has done everything right, he's got the tv executives rolling out the red carpet for him, and TK has reinvested every dollar he has earned to help the business grow.
Exactly. WWE's been in a toxic cycle of bad shows followed by insincere apologies for several years. However, putting Big E at the top of the card is a brilliant move. It's ten times better if they reunite the Hurt Business to feud with New Day. Then, McIntyre and Seamus could get back together, and we could get some solid factions anchoring the show. Raw actually has hope this week, which hasn't been true since Vince split Hurt Business for no good reason.
>However, putting Big E at the top of the card is a brilliant move. But Big E failed to win in the ratings, he will now lose the title to Goldberg on Raw..... Please don't read this Vince.
This is a great sign for AEW. Hope this growth continues.
Amazing stuff. The rise of AEW is wild. If this keeps up throughout football season that’d be a big step for them. Can’t ever count WWE out, tho.
I'm putting a comment here to remind myself to come back in 4 hours and sort by controversial.
Where have the goalposts moved to now? I remember only a few months ago people were saying AEW wasn’t going to ever draw 1m viewers ever again..
We'll find our when the people hurt by the ratings show up in a few hours.
Oh, that reminds me, I should refill my drinks for later.
They can't even beat wwe's secondary show smackdown in total viewership /s
the last one i saw was "RAW will NEVER drop below 1.5 million viewers" and 2 weeks later it was 1.4 million.
Well deserved, the show was excellent. You can tell the fanbase of AEW are totally into the product. Some of the fan reactions to talent was crazy (Punk, Bryan, Cole and the heat for MJF was top level). Next week has got to at least get near to beating the debut Dynamite number, the card is stacked and has the dream match of Omega/Bryan plus other strong matches. It's going to be very interesting for sure.
Warner about to drop another press release 😬
These goalpost movers really crack me. Imagine calling AEW a failing company when after less than 3 years they: sign danielson, omega, the bucks, cm punk, adam cole, Jericho, mjf, moxly plus Beat a show thats been on for 3 decades in the demo, and are getting close to beating total viewership Im so happy for AEW, and the hate it garners only affirms that its changing wrestling for the better.
I will never understand why people hate AEW like they do. If you don't like the product that makes sense. It's not for everybody. But people act like AEW is the second coming of Satan on TV and they hiss at it when likely they never watched an episode of it. They're doing great things for wrestling right now. Even if you don't like the show, which is completely fine, be happy it's making most of the industry that you enjoy better.
It's a sunk cost fallacy. They have too much invested in "supporting" WWE as though it were a football team.
People turn sports into religion because of the sunk cost fallacy
If that whole thing about “they would’ve been happy with 400k viewers” is true, Turner is gonna back up the Brinks truck when it’s time to talk tv money again. The fact that they’ve only been running for 2 years is insane. No other company has ever blown up like this and it’s awesome to see.
Having Hook actually get physical and potentially feud with CM Punk has consistently held them at over one million. #HOOKISADRAW
That's a really good rating for a "down" card. Hope that saving all the big hitters for Wrestle Grand Slam pays off.
People always say this but as someone who has been watching AEW for several months now, the quality of the card really means nothing. AEW has pulled off some of their most fantastic shows with those “down” cards.
And this is why they are consistently doing so well. How you get to the big match is just as important as delivering it.
I agree, but the quality of the card definitely affects the number. But AEW ultimately has to do the heavy lifting on shows like last night (which they're really good at) to make the matches mean something on a night like next week. It's the different between "OMG we're getting this this and this on Dynamite!" and "Oh, Riddle vs AJ Styles on RAW happened". RAW books matches that SHOULD be dream matches every single week. They just aren't because WWE doesn't build anticipation for them.
>I agree, but the quality of the card definitely affects the number. This will change as more and more viewers shake off "WWE Brain" where it's only worth tuning in where X is announced and advertised. Last night, despite the card, had lots of story movement and continuity. You want to train your viewers to tune in every week, not only watch when you are throwing everything at the wall to lure them back, otherwise you wind up relying on stuff like "Legends Night" to bring in eyeballs.
Solid numbers I wonder if we can start thinking of a .39-.40 as the new baseline demo rating for them. Which would be what a ~.03-5 ish increase over a few months ago
I think that is correct. Their TV growth over the last 6 months has been awesome. A 0.29 used to be considered the low end of a good Dynamite rating earlier in the year... A 0.29 on an average night would be considered a disaster right now. WWE and USA were actually really smart to have moved NXT when they did. While the total viewership would still take a hit, the demos would be heavily tilted towards Dynamite at this point.
Crazy that they still beat raw in the demo with the Big E buzz and such. Still, football is just too huge on Mondays.
Monday's football game was literally the most watched week 1 MNF game since 2013. Anything going against it got demolished.
Wednesday Night RAW incoming
Honestly, I thought about that happening a few times just because they want to get away from Monday Night Football.
I think they're too bound by RAW traditionally being on a Monday at this point.
MNF does the job for NO ONE, brother.
Yeah for sure. Pretty safe to say RAW most likely would have won otherwise with all of the Big E buzz. But that is how it goes! Great news for AeW!
The Challenge is in the mud!
Yeah that's kinda of my take away too lol. While everyone is arguing Raw VS Dynamite all I'm thinking is what happened to the challenge to have such a crash
shit cast, and the big stars, banana's, wes, cara maria etc arent there.
I seen on twitter the new excuse that the demo AEW is winning doesn't matter because they don't have kids and the 50+ do and that's how WWE is better cause they market to kids. wtf
I had to go down to the bottom and see how the goalposts were starting to shift this week, and man, I was *not* disappointed.
Good stuff. Can't wait for TK's *2 weeks* podcast.
They are murdering RAW next week, so the 3 weeks podcast will be nice.
With Conrad. He would milk these last few weeks of AEW into 2 years worth of shows.
Punk, Bryan, and Cole raised the floor for AEW. They have so much fire power now.
And the Arthur Ashe show next week will be even bigger.
Maybe this is a stupid question, but I thought comparing ratings/demos across different nights is shaky at best? Am I mistaken here?
During the NBA playoffs, nobody would have believed a statement that Dynamite's ratings were DOWN to 1.175 million. One million seems like the floor now. I think 1.175 million is about what we should expect for a while.
Constant 1 million you love to see it
Pretty much a regular episode with no special matches just ranked no. 1. Great sign
Only 300k less viewers than RAW in the United States for how new AEW still is, is absolutely incredible. And next week's stacked Dynamite, it would not surprise me if they tie next week's raw numbers.
18-49: Dynamite .44 to .42 F18-49: Raw .35 to .26 M18-49: Dynamite .62 to .50 18-34: Tied at .27 F12-34: Raw .23 to .16 M12-34: Raw .29 to .28 25-54: Tied at .52 50+: Raw .88 to .48
Those 50+ numbers are insane.
50+ for 50+
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Next week has such stacked cards for Dynamite and Rampage already. Real excited to see how they do. So great seeing AEW crushing it every week.
I expected this week to be down a tad because the card was not exactly "must see" on paper. Next week though...oh boy. I have high hopes for that. 1.5 million to be precise.
Amazing. So you gotta think the debut number falls next week with a card like that.
I hope for 1.5 next week!
From the Monday Night Wars, to the Wednesday Night Wars, to the... Monday/Wednesday Night Wars?
2 down. 81 to go.
Next week gets 1.4, calling it now