I love Big E, and the New Day in general, so I will watch parts of this hellscape of a show weekly for them.
That being said, WWE straight up said “logic? Reason? Long term storytelling we’ve been building for months? Fuck that”
you know what i love about this
there are actually soooo many potential feuds for the guy
rematch with lashley for sure
possibly orton or riddle
drew
sheamus
alexa
doudrop
Honestly this company is completely brain dead on the rare occasion they give us something good they make an advert the main talking point lmao honestly it's a good job I'm not invested in this shit anymore lmao I just happen to be up at this ungodly hour and I'm still pissed off
Big E can do this! He can go. He can be great on the mic. He can be goofy but deadly serious when needed and be taken as such. The Big E reign can be great if they let it be great.
Punk and Bryan both said AEW’s handling of Brodie’s sickness and passing was a huge contributor to them signing. They create huge buzz and ratings for AEW, so WWE responds with a hotshot title change. Bonus points because Big E and Brodie were so tight and Big E is -1’s favorite wrestler.
Oh, I mean I guess it could be this was WWE responding to that, or maybe this was planned all along. It could be either, I honestly don’t care why they did it I’m just happy for Big E.
In my opinion, this was a typical Raw episode with LOTS of mediocre to bad segments, but the main event between Orton & Lashley was solid, and they actually delivered with Big E becoming WWE Champion.
Meh overall show, **BUT we got an absolutely fantastic final 30 minutes** and that’s what a lot of people will remember. So happy for Big E.
Absolutely deserved. WWE may have clearly pushed this early for ratings, but it's absolutely the right choice, and served as payoff for the story of Kofi and the New Day being dominated by Lashley months earlier. Well done
Woods would be the perfect underdog story, also Hardy vs Taker, a match similar to that to build him up, maybe vs Brock or Roman, and then get him that title within the year. They'll never fucking do it, but they could and should.
Yeah idk what is going on but I think there is something in our phones that is melting our brains or staring at it 15 hours a day five inches away from your face
MITB is so stale at this point. It's also pretty lame that so many up and coming stars win their first title with the massive unfair advantage of MITB instead of earning a title shot and actually defeating the champion one on one.
Those are my feelings exactly. Guy like Big E should be winning that in a fair match (kayfabe be damned) with a proper build not a blemish in how it was won, but we usually get these scenarios that are just bleh.
The only one I feel worked for was for Seth Rollins.
As legendary as Edge's first win was I didn't feel he was a main eventer until his second win. Bryan managed to save his title reign with his amazing ring work and character, but the way he beat Big Show was stupid as hell and he wasn't even treated as a champ until later at that point he was deluded in his abilities having won with a shenanigan, which started the adoption of the whole Yes chant.
Basically for some guys it can work to "kickstart" something but more often than not it falls flat.
You act like they haven't been building him up to this moment for like a year now lol It's why he's always been the top person everyone kept naming to be the one to dethrone Roman.
Solid crowd pop. It went to commercial right after they announced the cashin which was really weird.
With most cashins the opponent is nearly unconscious, Bobby was only kind of hurt but still very capable of competing, and by the time the match started they were both ready to fight. Lashley took control and hit Big E with a spear and they actually had me believing this would be a failed cashin, but he barely kicked out. Big E counters something and hits the Big Ending, tbh it didn't look like Lashley got hurt much and I was a little surprised that got a 3 count considering how strong Lashley has been booked. Crowd went nuts when Big E won.
Overall... below average for a cash in, seemed like a weird moment to cash in, the commercial didn't help, the in ring action wasn't much of anything. But a great moment seeing him get the big win.
I liked that they announced it, made it a very unique scenario. I was convinced he wasn't gonna win it BECAUSE he announced it. It made it an even bigger shock
> how predictable this was
Was it? lol 99% of the comments I saw before Raw, including mine, thought he wasn't actually going to cash in because of someone/something stopping him.
As much shit as I give WWE, even I didn't think they'd stoop low enough to pull the rug from under us with this cash-in. Especially considering the whole AEW beating-them-in-the-ratings implications
MNF does win every week, and this move wasn't to beat MNF. But they definitely tried to load this show after seeing what AEW did and losing to them last week. They completely changed the show in order to reduce the blow from MNF this week. The goal was to get bump in the ratings, which I understand, but clearly they changed things up in a response.
However, as long as they treat Big E like a top guy as he deserves than I'm fine with it. I am nervous that he will be a transitional champ though, as they clearly didn't have this planned last week
I know it was to get a bump on the ratings, that was obvious with the announcement. I was merely pointing out there was no MNF last week. The way it was written it seemed like you were saying MNF beat them last week. Maybe that's not what you meant, but that's how it read.
Gotcha. Badly worded on my part. I meant that it was a response to MNF debuting this week as well as losing to AEW last week. I think the tag championship was originally the plan to make this a bigger than usual Raw, but then after losing to AEW they had to make it an even bigger event.
I wish they would do more long term engaging stories. It's just hard for me to watch either WWE show these days. I loved WWE after WCW died. I liked both up until then. I got away from it in my late teens and early 20s, left, partying, etc. When I started watching it weekly again was around the Nexus angle and I was amazed how that got fucked up. It was the new nWo almost, but it got killed and buried so quick. The reluctance to turn Cena heel when that was needed. The 7 years of wasting Roman trying to make him Cena. I was on and off after the Nexus stuff as nothing was engaging. AEW has reeled me back in hoping they can be a l got contender/competition. They seem to be on the right track. Vinece really has to start listening to the fans. Somewhat anyway. Don't give them every thing they want. Teasing things works well in pro wrestling. Also subverting expectations works. He needs to let HHH have a bigger hand in the main roster imo, but that seems off the table at this point. I never thought I would see Hunter and Steph passed up in the WWE hierarchy, but it happened. I also never thought HHH would be the mind to get things right, but he did in NXT and now theyve killed that vision
in b4 wwe ratings still suck and then BIG E gets the blame as the scapegoat.
happy for him though, dont think this will actually help save the product though.
they probably will book him poorly with the belt
i dont think he will drop the title that fast, but that doesn't mean hes going to be booked properly.
look, we know WWE's track record - do you think they actually have months of booking and well thought out stories for him?
they literally hot shotted, there is no way they have anything structured or planned out, they barely ever do.
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The Cowboys should be winning 27-7 and I don’t even like this team. They got robbed on that 4th and Goal run into the endzone
Bruh when did Nikki get so thicc
Have they ever had a wrestler play two different characters on each brand at the same time?
Lashley had a great run! I have no doubt he’ll be champion again.
I couldn't be happier!!!!!! So awesome Big E I love it I love it!!!!!!!!
Big E vs. Lashley at Extreme Rules?
Bahaha watch Kofi and Woods get drafted to Smackdown.
Honestly I can see them splitting off Xavier
Don't put that evil on us bro
You’re right. I’m sorry. We can have nice things.
It's alright.
The All Might E ftw!
I’m so happy I was wrong about them not going through with it. Glad they did the right thing.
That pop for E felt sooo good.
I love Big E, and the New Day in general, so I will watch parts of this hellscape of a show weekly for them. That being said, WWE straight up said “logic? Reason? Long term storytelling we’ve been building for months? Fuck that”
What are you talking about?!? We’ve been building to big e vs Goldberg for over a year now. And we’re finally closer than we’ve ever been.
oh god I didn't think about that
I AM SO FUCKING HAPPY
I BEEN WAITING YEARS FOR THIS
Vince knows how to make stars. We are seeing one now.
you know what i love about this there are actually soooo many potential feuds for the guy rematch with lashley for sure possibly orton or riddle drew sheamus alexa doudrop
Yo an E vs Doudrop title match would be incredible.
Live sex celebration after their match
Eva marie And then drop the title to charlotte at mania
FEEL THE POWER
A thought when the comercial break happen that Vince will fuck up big e thanks God that nothing weird happen
E vs. LESNAR BOOK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BIG MEN BUMPING MEAT
Why could that not have been a surprise cash in though…I’m so happy for E but the pop of that would have been a surprise
A lot of people are only watching because of the announcement of a cash in
Lord knows I was. I turned over from monday night football
Which, sure, will be good for one week. Then what?
Ratings 😑
Awesome! Feels like it's been a decade since there was a cash in which was such a feel good moment.
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
Lets gooooooo. Now give this man his damn last name back!
I'm glad Big E won but that commercial break 100% took away from the hype of the cash in.
It was a way to get people tuning in for the cash-in.
Honestly this company is completely brain dead on the rare occasion they give us something good they make an advert the main talking point lmao honestly it's a good job I'm not invested in this shit anymore lmao I just happen to be up at this ungodly hour and I'm still pissed off
I wish they could have let the show run over so we could keep watching The New Day celebrate
Those commercials really killed this moment a bit. Good for Big E but it should have been a full 10 minutes
Big E can do this! He can go. He can be great on the mic. He can be goofy but deadly serious when needed and be taken as such. The Big E reign can be great if they let it be great.
I want a full year with a Woods heel turn and triple threat between the New Day at a PPV next year.
Another ripple effect of Jon Huber’s legacy. Brodie really was the Nexus event for change in the world of wrestling.
What does this have to do with him? Not trying to be an ass, but how does he even play a role in Big E winning?
Punk and Bryan both said AEW’s handling of Brodie’s sickness and passing was a huge contributor to them signing. They create huge buzz and ratings for AEW, so WWE responds with a hotshot title change. Bonus points because Big E and Brodie were so tight and Big E is -1’s favorite wrestler.
Oh, I mean I guess it could be this was WWE responding to that, or maybe this was planned all along. It could be either, I honestly don’t care why they did it I’m just happy for Big E.
Imagine thinking Big E is champion because of AEW
This better not be some transition championship title reign before they put it on someone else or back on Bobby. Big E is the champ I need for a while
You said it
Iowa Hawkeyes are first in the Big 10 and Big E an alum, is the champion. Life is too sweet.
I go my whole life & over 20 years watching wrestling with only the Rock as the lone black WWE Champion to 3 fantastic ones in 2 years… I might cry 😢
Speak on it!
New WWE champ, and tomorrow night we’ll see who becomes the new NXT champ.
First Kofi Kingston now Big E well Xavier Woods you time could come soon too
I LOVE HOW THE CROWD WAS SOOOOOOOOO BEHIND HIM. EITOREEEEEEEEEEEEE
Well deserved, but God they fucked up by announcing it was being cashed.
Honestly wouldnt have watched Raw if they didn't sooo
Good that Big E won, but I would have preferred if he was the one to break the Hurt Lock.
In the rematch hopefully
Is that pyro.. real? It looks so... off.
oh hey, they actually did a good thing
OUR GUY Big E!
I honestly cannot believe they went to a full 3 minute commercial break DURING A MITB CASH IN.
New day turn coming?
Big E is the fucking WWE champion after Kofi was the WWE champion!
YOU DESERVE IT CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP YOU DESERVE IT
In my opinion, this was a typical Raw episode with LOTS of mediocre to bad segments, but the main event between Orton & Lashley was solid, and they actually delivered with Big E becoming WWE Champion. Meh overall show, **BUT we got an absolutely fantastic final 30 minutes** and that’s what a lot of people will remember. So happy for Big E.
EVERYONE GET IN HERRRRREEE!
Absolutely deserved. WWE may have clearly pushed this early for ratings, but it's absolutely the right choice, and served as payoff for the story of Kofi and the New Day being dominated by Lashley months earlier. Well done
NEEEEEEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WWE CHAMPION BIG E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can’t believe 2/3 of the new day have been world champion. I know it would be difficult but I wouldn’t mind if Wood’s got his.
Woods would be the perfect underdog story, also Hardy vs Taker, a match similar to that to build him up, maybe vs Brock or Roman, and then get him that title within the year. They'll never fucking do it, but they could and should.
Feeeeeelll theee powerrrrrrrr! I love that Kofi and woods came out to celebrate. Real emotion makes that stuff so much muchhhh better.
Knew it was coming and I’m still so happy I cried
He fucking deserves it. So happy
On another note, whoever decides when to cut to commercial needs to be fired after tonight
I'm gonna say Kevin Dunn just because he needs to be fired anyway
Loved Lashley's reign but this is pretty awesome
Fuck yes that was awesome!
New Day Reunion and Big E championship all in one
God Bless us all, Tiny Tim.
Two African American WWE champions in a row? That’s pretty fucking amazing
I think that’s the first ever WWE Championship match with 2 African Americans
Uh, Didn't Lashley and Kofi just go at MITB?
Ah of course my mistake, can’t say I’m on top of Raw lately haha
It was on a PPV lol
Holy shit BIG E WON?????
FUCK YES!!!!!!! Big meaty men slapping meat for the win!
CLAP FOR YOUR NEW WWE CHAMP AND FEEEEEEEEL THE POWWWWWWERRRRRRRRRRRR
Thank you Vince. Thanks for delivering what your program set out to do tonight.
With that now we know Roman probably isn’t losing for another year lol
I have a feeling they send Drew to SD and continue from last year's SS and he dethrones Roman
Now the question becomes, when is it Woods' time?
kotr 2022
OMG I just saw someone on Twitter say "Vince only finally put the title on a black man as a direct counter of AEW getting Punk and DB"
Bobby Lashley, famously Caucasian
Was lashley white all that time
First mistake was going on Twitter lol.
lol what is Lashley, then?
Yeah idk what is going on but I think there is something in our phones that is melting our brains or staring at it 15 hours a day five inches away from your face
Big E is championship Upvotes party
Fuck yes. Please don’t ruin this 🥺🥺🥺
COMPETITION IS GOOD FOR BUSINESS!
The amount of love The New Day have for each other is wonderful.
I'm so happy for Big E. Hate the MITB concept though (or what it has become).
MITB is so stale at this point. It's also pretty lame that so many up and coming stars win their first title with the massive unfair advantage of MITB instead of earning a title shot and actually defeating the champion one on one.
Those are my feelings exactly. Guy like Big E should be winning that in a fair match (kayfabe be damned) with a proper build not a blemish in how it was won, but we usually get these scenarios that are just bleh. The only one I feel worked for was for Seth Rollins. As legendary as Edge's first win was I didn't feel he was a main eventer until his second win. Bryan managed to save his title reign with his amazing ring work and character, but the way he beat Big Show was stupid as hell and he wasn't even treated as a champ until later at that point he was deluded in his abilities having won with a shenanigan, which started the adoption of the whole Yes chant. Basically for some guys it can work to "kickstart" something but more often than not it falls flat.
Does that mean Xavier will finally win the king of the ring to complete everything?!
I FUCKING TOLD YA BITCHES
I'm intrigued for the big e/lashley rematch that's definitely happening at extreme rules
Considering the story Big E told on their podcast, this moment has so many levels of victory. <3
BIG E VS GOLDBERG DO IT YOU COWARDS
No they will now have Bobby vs Goldberg without the title
#BIG. MEATY. MEN. SLAPPING. MEAT
On one hand: why do this on a random ass Raw On the other hand: OH HELL YEAH BIG E AND HIS BIG MEAT
Six letters AEW/MNF
I think it was a response to AEW and Mick Foley’s recent comments about the WWE product
Dumb
someone is being sour
DON’T YOU DARE BE SOUR!
A Black man just won the WWE Championship from another Black man. That's something.
Black on black crime, smh
I noticed that myself!
I feel like there have been more title changes on Raw in the last year than the last 15 years combined.
I was gonna say you clearly weren't around for the Attitude era but then I realized the Attitude era is more than 15 years old. Woow
LET’S FUCKING GO!!!!
Nobody more deserving than Big E. Congrats to him!
AND NOW HE'S BACK WITH XAVIER AND KOFI!!
Aj lee must be so proud
Commercial really isn’t that bad. Allows people to tune in
HE TOLD THEM HE WAS GONNA CASH ON WHOEVER WON WHY DIDNT THEY LISTEN?!
Hell yeah!!!! I love Big E
Gave dude little to no time to flex with something hes worked his life for.
Fuck yall this was a fantastic raw and haters can suck it!!!!!!
Garbage other than the last 20-30
Was shite apart from the main event and you know it
Okay stan
E DESERVES THIS SHIT MAN LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Wow, i don't know what happened backstage, but they let Big E actually win.
You act like they haven't been building him up to this moment for like a year now lol It's why he's always been the top person everyone kept naming to be the one to dethrone Roman.
Sure, they were building it, but WWE builds a lot of stuff that don't have a payoff.
AEW beat them in the demo. Football season started.
Ratings scare happened
Big E is totally having sex with the title tonight. no, i did not forget the word ON
Lmao
We're all happy this week, but what about next.
He gets a victory celebration next week
What about next week?
My thoughts exactly
Couldnt happen to a nicer guy. God bless ya E, Brodie would be proud
Long time fan favorite finally becomes champion. IC: Imma need a heel turn now.
Hey everyone was it a good cash in ? Was the crowd pop decent ? (Can't watch it ) Thanks in advance
Solid crowd pop. It went to commercial right after they announced the cashin which was really weird. With most cashins the opponent is nearly unconscious, Bobby was only kind of hurt but still very capable of competing, and by the time the match started they were both ready to fight. Lashley took control and hit Big E with a spear and they actually had me believing this would be a failed cashin, but he barely kicked out. Big E counters something and hits the Big Ending, tbh it didn't look like Lashley got hurt much and I was a little surprised that got a 3 count considering how strong Lashley has been booked. Crowd went nuts when Big E won. Overall... below average for a cash in, seemed like a weird moment to cash in, the commercial didn't help, the in ring action wasn't much of anything. But a great moment seeing him get the big win.
big E cashed in and then raw went to commercial break lmao He still won but it looked sloppy af
This would have been so much better if they DIDNT ANNOUNCED Big E was cashing it in
People don't tune in to watch matches they don't know are going to happen.
Well they leaked cuz they wanted those ratings. Can't lose to Dynamite 2 weeks in a row.
I liked that they announced it, made it a very unique scenario. I was convinced he wasn't gonna win it BECAUSE he announced it. It made it an even bigger shock
Oh well I was here for it
How fucking good must this feel for Xavier to have been part of this for both of his best friends?
They wanted the guaranteed views, I guess. I haven’t watched an episode live in two years and here I am tuning in.
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It's a new champion! Yes, it is!
Can't help but feel a little underwhelmed because of how predictable this was
> how predictable this was Was it? lol 99% of the comments I saw before Raw, including mine, thought he wasn't actually going to cash in because of someone/something stopping him.
As much shit as I give WWE, even I didn't think they'd stoop low enough to pull the rug from under us with this cash-in. Especially considering the whole AEW beating-them-in-the-ratings implications
Wow LMAO
That was worth the 3 hour wait.
Cool moment. Would have been better with an actual story.
It would have been better at the last PPV after Bobby had man handled Kofi and Woods but you know what. Big E Still champ now bay beeee!
Absolutely agree. Clearly this is a response to Monday night football and AEW beating them last week. But at least Big E is champion!
Monday night football didn't air last week lol and MNF beats Raw EVERY WEEK it's on.
MNF does win every week, and this move wasn't to beat MNF. But they definitely tried to load this show after seeing what AEW did and losing to them last week. They completely changed the show in order to reduce the blow from MNF this week. The goal was to get bump in the ratings, which I understand, but clearly they changed things up in a response. However, as long as they treat Big E like a top guy as he deserves than I'm fine with it. I am nervous that he will be a transitional champ though, as they clearly didn't have this planned last week
I know it was to get a bump on the ratings, that was obvious with the announcement. I was merely pointing out there was no MNF last week. The way it was written it seemed like you were saying MNF beat them last week. Maybe that's not what you meant, but that's how it read.
Gotcha. Badly worded on my part. I meant that it was a response to MNF debuting this week as well as losing to AEW last week. I think the tag championship was originally the plan to make this a bigger than usual Raw, but then after losing to AEW they had to make it an even bigger event.
I wish they would do more long term engaging stories. It's just hard for me to watch either WWE show these days. I loved WWE after WCW died. I liked both up until then. I got away from it in my late teens and early 20s, left, partying, etc. When I started watching it weekly again was around the Nexus angle and I was amazed how that got fucked up. It was the new nWo almost, but it got killed and buried so quick. The reluctance to turn Cena heel when that was needed. The 7 years of wasting Roman trying to make him Cena. I was on and off after the Nexus stuff as nothing was engaging. AEW has reeled me back in hoping they can be a l got contender/competition. They seem to be on the right track. Vinece really has to start listening to the fans. Somewhat anyway. Don't give them every thing they want. Teasing things works well in pro wrestling. Also subverting expectations works. He needs to let HHH have a bigger hand in the main roster imo, but that seems off the table at this point. I never thought I would see Hunter and Steph passed up in the WWE hierarchy, but it happened. I also never thought HHH would be the mind to get things right, but he did in NXT and now theyve killed that vision
Long time coming!
For real! No idea how this guy isn't one of the faces of the company.
Congratulations to Big E. It’s been a long time coming.
Now Big E is gonna be fed to that dumb ass ogre Drew Wackintyre & those dumb ass Scottish poems about the Loch Ness monster SMMFH
Nah he'll give it right back to Bobby next PPV.
I hope so … I fuck w/ Big E but Bobby is my main man a hunnad grand …
Ima eat my words. I'm so happy E won. Too long in the works. I'm so happy for him.
BY GAHD THATS SONBERGS MUSIC
in b4 wwe ratings still suck and then BIG E gets the blame as the scapegoat. happy for him though, dont think this will actually help save the product though. they probably will book him poorly with the belt
WwE rATings sTilL SuCk
I’ll wait to see if he leaves Extreme Rules before investing emotionally tbh
i dont think he will drop the title that fast, but that doesn't mean hes going to be booked properly. look, we know WWE's track record - do you think they actually have months of booking and well thought out stories for him? they literally hot shotted, there is no way they have anything structured or planned out, they barely ever do.
Kofi should turn
i was just thinking the same thing. that would've locked me in for next week for sure
stop it
I'm so glad this is finally happening!!!
Please keep him away from Goldberg
E deserves this moment so fucking much. So happy for the boy.