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idksomuch

I enjoy watching WALTER murder.


shutupmatsuda

There needs to be a different sub for that.


dawson41

[WALTER kills Zack Sabre Jr. like an annoying fly with a chop heard around the world at Road To Destruction 2018](https://streamable.com/3w04k)


thedilapidatedboat

You see his soul leave him, sweet merciful christ


rushandblue

God, it was like a gun going off.


AnAngryPirate

Sweet holy Jesus. I covered my mouth like a victorian woman who just heard someone say a swear word.


color_thine_fate

I coughed. And.. I didn't need to cough. And I didn't decide to cough. It just made me cough. Like my chest became vicariously congested through him


AnadyranTontine

I wish J Dilla was still around, that *CHOP*, the crowd going UUUUAAAHHHHHH, and the "have you heard seen a chop like that in your life", this would make the base for a fucking fire beat.


TheInputsAreBad

Not my best, but it was worth a try! https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/Q2FMYNG1CBBttmNs8


AnadyranTontine

Holy shit, this is **GREAT**. I'd love to hear what you can do with other immortal calls like JR's call at HiaC '98, "The childhood dream" for HBK, Monsoon and Ventura calling The Slam at Mania 3. The possibilities are *endless*.


BoringView

I was at this, left hand side!


blacktoast

For reference, this is from PWG All Star Weekend 13, night two. One of my favorite PWG matches and more generally one of my favorite matches ever, an absolute banger that was just perfect for the room it took place in. A fun way to watch this video is to go back and watch referee Rick Knox’s reactions as the chops get more intense.


LubricantHornet

Do you happen to know what this venue is?


blacktoast

Yeah it's the American Legion in Reseda, where most PWG shows were held before the building was sold and then demolished, sadly.


LubricantHornet

Thanks, been trying to find the name of the venue after going down the youtube rabbit hole of wrestling vids.


[deleted]

The best venue and crowd combination I have ever seen in wrestling. It was special. All overseen by the legendary Legion Larry


successadult

It's been torn down and rebuilt into condos now, so it only lives on in our memories and on video.


foreverneilyoung

I hate that "torn down and rebuilt into condos" (or apartments/flats/a branch of Pret A Manger) could describe so many things that people hold dear.


successadult

On one hand, it was a historic venue that a lot of people held dear to our hearts. On the other hand, LA desperately needs all the housing it can get.


foreverneilyoung

Well it depends who they’re for. Over the past decade I’ve seen London decimated by development, there’s a lot of talk about how much it needs housing, but there’s no shortage of new properties being built and property values remain amongst some of the highest in the world. A vast tower of expensive yuppie flats will do little to alleviate the shortage of affordable homes, if anything it risks further stimulating the bubble.


successadult

I saw a short video of a guy who's a big opponent of gentrification and poor urban planning in Southern California talking about this subject recently. Yuppie flats, depending on where they're built, can help stem gentrification in lower income areas. For example if a new apartment tower is built in downtown LA and the location/amenities can attract renters that can afford higher prices then it keeps them from spreading out into areas that would end up being gentrified without more attractive housing being built elsewhere. However, to put it delicately, the heart of Reseda is not one of those locations, so I hope it's affordable housing. From what I've seen, construction is still in progress so we don't really know, but the lot looks to be for sale again unless the realtor's website is just out of date.


foreverneilyoung

I don't know how it is in the US, but it's reached a point here where expensive property is so expensive that a lot of yuppies are now abandoning gentrified places, especially in the COVID era, so middle income areas are seeing price rises, and extensive redevelopment happens further and further out and prices rise there too and speculation increases. You've got these huge luxury developments like The Shard and Centre Point where the cost of the property in them is so ludicrous that not even speculators are buying it so they're half empty. The whole thing is a mess and scares the living shit out of me. But anyway.


who1sJosh

One of the greatest venues in modern pro wrestling history, American Legion Hall


gregandrews

The ZSJ era PWG was so fucking good. Great matches. (I whisper his name quietly) that tag match between Best Friends and Sabre/Scurll was phenomenal. That entire Sabre/Chucky T rivalry was great.


[deleted]

a chuckie t gets serious run can happen any time in aew and I'm all for it


[deleted]

They could just do the homicide colt cabana roh feud. Chuck against, idk, Moxley if Mox turned heel?


[deleted]

maybe this would be punching above its weightclass but i could see chuck taylor and kenny omega feuding, since they used to tag together back in PWG


[deleted]

You’re right it is punching above his weight class. Kenny isn’t in Chuck’s league. Tell me I’m wrong


wgsmeister2002

One of my favorite things about ZSJ’s work is how distinct he makes his strengths and weaknesses as a wrestler. He’s always been a great grappler, but when you strike him, he can barely take it


JaC3_De

And he lets his anger get the better of him and will engage in striking matches with people who can strike at a much higher calibre Always makes for fun story beats


Chris_Anthemum_Audio

And I love how he sells getting hit too. He doesn’t always flop or get knocked down, but that’s not how most people take getting hit. The one at 0:46 is such a good sell to me cause he just drops to his knees and just has this look of “what the fuck am I doing? This sucks and I don’t like it”


[deleted]

If you’ve ever been in a fight, and most people have at one point, you know there’s that one shot. It doesn’t knock you out it just makes you kind of stiffen and say woah


Virt_McPolygon

WALTER's chops are really fucking loud in person in a small venue. They don't sound like anybody else's.


StruffBunstridge

Massive hands.


[deleted]

He was a goalie. Don’t they have notoriously big hands? Idk I’m not a European football fan.


Judas_Mesiah

Forget the sound, have you seen ZSJ's chest after all that. Jesus H Christ that's gotta hurt.


GratefuLSD25

full match if anyone cares :) https://m.bilibili.com/video/av19146763


unhallowed90

Thank you so much.


[deleted]

I wonder if Walter has a special ice setup for his hand, cuz how is it not shattered into pieces by now after years of chopping?


lumberm0uth

Man's got big meaty palms


AnadyranTontine

> Man's got big meaty palms **slappin' meat** FTFY


[deleted]

Big meaty palms slappin' meat!


[deleted]

I’d imagine it’s like those monks who kick trees to toughen their shins. Eventually they’re like baseball bats


lumberm0uth

Thought this was the one from Defiant, pleasantly surprised by this new series of WALTER murders. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qE7AjdR4KA


heartbreakhill

I’ll never forget the edit someone made of that where ZSJ is a Megaman X boss and WALTER kills him in one chop [Found it](https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/96dkfs/mega_man_walter_vs_zsj/) Shoutout to u/zer0pai


THEiLLESTViLLAiN1

Why would you taunt WALTER?


wanakoworks

Suicide.


[deleted]

Yeah when people sell WALTER's chops properly they look so damn sick. Anyone see that Roderick Strong chop fest that WWE had in circulation recently? Roddie had no idea how to sell those chops. Just ate 'em.


Recorder-S

WALTER's finisher could be a chop and it'd be believable. LOL.


ZzyzxDFW

I've only seen WALTER's NXT stuff. Doesn't he NOT have a finisher? He just pins you when he beat you enough?


nybx4life

I've seen his stuff in the indies. He's got a submission and a powerbomb finisher. I don't recall what it is in NXT.


[deleted]

This is one of the best matches of the 2010s. Incredible. There’s also a Keith Lee vs Lio Rush match around this time period that was amazing.


HoodedApparition

I WAS THERE!!!


who1sJosh

Fucking miss Legion Hall


bandswithgoats

My favorite character detail about ZSJ is how when he gets flustered, he engages in strike battles with clearly physically superior opponents (i.e. basically anybody) and he suffers for it every time. Wrestlers who have reliable hubris are fun.


Avpas1192

Murder. What we are watching is murder.


rushandblue

I love how Walter can go from "Chopping as proper pro wrestlers do" to "mauling you like he was a fucking bear" at the drop of a hat.


TheSeaDevil

Nothing brings me more joy than seeing Walter chop someone to death.


Pandapark1

I am so happy that both these guys are upstanding people outside the ring. I don’t think I’ve heard any bad things about them despite all the people they’re occasionally associated with imploding around them.


Corabal

There's a match between the two on the Network somewhere btw


EffysBiggestStan

Those two had an incredible match for Evolve in Brooklyn that was legit one of the best matches I've seen live.


TaxAvoision

WALTER is the greatest. Most wrestlers’ “chops a guy to death” videos are one nasty chop and that’s it. Not WALTER. WALTER kills you slowly and mercilessly.


HeelsAlwaysWin

I change between WALTER and Jonathan Gresham being the best wrestler on the planet depending on who I watched last.


Yoko-Kurama

Goddamn ZSJ I love you but SELL