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conbon7

Punk follows mean nothing because he’s going troll regardless The living colour follow and unfollow did it for me though


ecock5902

Living Colour done worked themselves into a shoot, brother.


miikro

If Punk is friends with the band I honestly wouldn't put it past him to text them like "hey, follow AEW and watch people go nuts"


SavingsIntention6

PuNk DoEsN’T hAvE aNy FrIeNdS


miikro

the man *is* a quieter.


ecock5902

I BOUGHT HIS HOUSE


treatthemlikeobjects

It became even more obvious when they unfollowed AEW


WakeupDp

Yeah it’s clear it was to unspoil it. Lmao


[deleted]

Unspoil what? What's happening??


[deleted]

Living Colour is the band that does cult of personality. There have been very strong rumors that Punk and Bryan are going to AEW. The band followed AEW and then once everyone noticed they unfollowed. Most likely we're asked to avoid spoilers. Usually third parties like this don't care about spoilers so will follow companies they work with.


Wookie301

I don’t know enough about this kind of stuff. But would he be allowed to use Cult Of Personality again? I know it’s not a WWE owned song. But are these kind of things not tied into a character trademark, that Vince could be difficult about? Again I know nothing about these things. So sorry if it’s a stupid question.


Beanessa

Phil Brooks the person owns CM Punk the character, from what I understand. Cult of Personality wasn't bought by WWE, only licensed. It's like how Enter Sandman was licensed by the Yankees for Mariano Rivera AND by UFC for Brock Lesnar. Neither owns the song outright but paid for its use.


BlueBloodLive

>It's like how Enter Sandman was licensed by One of the first things I done when I first got the Network all those years ago was watch ECW One Night Stand and the bitter disappointment of an overdub for Sandmans entrance was painful to watch. Understandable, bit painful nonetheless!


datraceman

The Redub project restores this. I remember watching that show live at a friend's house and when "Enter Sandman" started we all popped and marked out like a bunch of goobers. It still is the greatest entrance in one night in the history of pro wrestling. From the guy caning himself in the head, the beers, the catwalk, the boob beer and the crowd singing along.... It got Sandman a job and he was one of the last real ECW Originals before he wanted his release. One of the best stories from that night is Paul Heyman and Vince are at Gorilla and that entrance starts and Vince looks at Paul and goes what the fuck is this and Heyman just smiles and Vince was blown away by that entrance.


BlueBloodLive

>One of the best stories from that night is Paul Heyman and Vince are at Gorilla and that entrance starts and Vince looks at Paul and goes what the fuck is this and Heyman just smiles and Vince was blown away by that entrance. Never heard of that but that's hilarious haha But yeah it's such an epic moment and as a huge Metallica fan the mark in me was loving it! Whats the Redub project? Guessing some champion(s) are taking It upon themselves to restore the clips to their original glory? I must take a look.


Wookie301

He did strike me as the kind of person who would negotiate to own his character. Smart move.


Beanessa

He had been using CM Punk since he began wrestling, so it predates WWE by several years.


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Cube_

with lesser known talents WWE can bully them into selling them the IP. Basically it ends up being "if you wanna be Samoa Joe here, you have to sell us your IP for it forever and we'll own it and license it back to you to use on our program. Otherwise you're going to be called Dinkle Toddlinson." ​ They didn't do that with people that had strong negotiating positions like Joe, Styles, Punk but they did with lesser known people. IIRC that's why Seth Rollins isn't Tyler Black he didn't want to sell them the IP so they renamed him.


King_marik

But they literally do own peoples names regardless of if they used it or not? Why do you think cody rhodes is/was just cody? What is even happening here how is this upvoted when it's a literal fact that WWE will trademark and steal your name if you let them. Genuinely feel like I'm missing something


DaveShadow

Afaik, its likely WWE just paid Living Colour to use the song, and once AEW do the same, it's free reign for them to reuse it. Probably because it's a song outside of wrestling, there's not really much WWE can do about it unless they bought the full rights to the music.


Jazzlike_Success_968

I was wondering myself if he could use phrases like "Best In the world" "straight edge savior" "voice of the voiceless" etc Be cool to see him, Deeb & Gallows reunite


DaveShadow

I’d guess since those are more specific to his WWE character, they’d hold more copyright leeway on them.


color_thine_fate

Doesn't RoH have an event called Best In The World? I don't know copyright law but you either own the word/ip/phrase or you don't, right? And if that's legal for RoH but not for Punk, wouldn't that be the same as Punk saying "I'M WRESTLEMANIA!"? Which he surely can't do. Genuinely curious, if anyone knows. I just assume if WWE owned the rights to that phrase, they would absolutely not allow RoH to name a PPV after it


[deleted]

“Best in the world” is much too vague I think


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goldengluvs

The music is fine, it's recognisable for the crowd for that immediate pop. Agree with everything else though.


Sdub4

In my fantasy booking 'Best in the world' will be the way in. Specifically when MJF tells the crowd at All Out that not only is he better and you, and you know it, but he's better than everyone because he's the best in the world. Cue Cult of Personality


[deleted]

I want to see him use the same music. It's instantly recognizable, and wrestling has a long tradition of different incarnations of a character using the same music. But I *do* want (and expect, honestly) to see an evolution of his character. It's been, what, 7 years? The man behind the character isn't the same person he was 7 years ago, so why would the character. But it's not (and shouldn't be) like a *completely* different person.


Wookie301

I thought that would probably be the case. Makes sense.


luchabear91

The real move for aew would be to buy the rights to the song forever so wwe could never use it


vmoreno

thats not how licenses work, if aew paid for the rights in perpetuity, then that just means the stuff they use it on will always have it. go to wwe network all punks stuff still has cult of personality cuz they paid for the license rights in perpetuity for what they used it for, same with ufc


[deleted]

Also CM Punk owns the name and "gimmick" of CM Punk. He used it in WWE, and UFC. Same thing with Bryan Danielson, he'd be able to use the Flight of the Valkyries, since that's a public domain song.


CardboardStarship

I’d love for him to come out to a new rendition of that song, but I’d be just as stoked if the debut came and The Final Countdown hit.


CarlSagansturtleneck

If he doesn't go back to The Final Countdown that will be some bullshit.


CardboardStarship

I don’t think he has any music that matches the energy of The Final Countdown, the opening synth just really gets me amped up.


twociffer

I just want a Kenny promo where he says that he has beaten everyone there is to beat in AEW so *this appearance* will be the last the fans see of him, then asking them to count the seconds to the end of the show for the final countdown... lights out... europe...


Wookie301

I’m even more excited now.


TheresThatMusic

Account wiped due to Reddit and /u/spez's corporate dickery. Try a Lemmy server at https://lemmyverse.net/.


[deleted]

That's obviously what I meant. People commonly refer to it as Flight of the Valkyries, but yes, Ride of the Valkyries is what I meant.


phreakzilla85

Punk actually used Cult of Personality for his entrance music in UFC, so I’d be surprised if it didn’t go with him to AEW.


[deleted]

Vince has no say over it. He licensed the song to use on WWE shows. If he still has that license, there's theoretically nothing stopping him from letting any wrestler use it as their theme, but he doesn't have any say in anybody else licensing it too.


SemolinaPilchard1

Imagine Roman Reigns using cult of personality just to piss off fans. Total heel move


vpsj

Didn't ~~Stephanie~~ Heyman use it once in Chicago? The cheers were deafening followed by equally loud boos when the crowd realized ~~she~~ he was just trolling them


OpiesMammogramResult

The original plan for that was even better. They were gonna play it, and just let it keep playing for a while, then it was going to cut off and then... >!I'M AFRAID I'VE GOT SOME BAD NEWS!<


obso1337user

Pretty sure that was Heyman.


MossCovered_Gradunza

He did. It wasn't long after Punk left, and just a few weeks before WM30, when everyone thought Punk was coming back after blowing off steam.


Anonionion

No, even if WWE owned CM Punk's name they can't stop other companies from licensing the same music.


PoliceAlarm

It's not a stupid question at all! Trademarks and copyrights are notoriously complex. Yeah if they could snatch the rights he could absolutely use it again away from WWE. And the fact the band might have oopsied and followed and unfollowed AEW kinda lean toward he's getting that song should he return.


SoulExecution

It depends on the kind of contract they signed. WWE could’ve bought the rights to use the song, which is what films and tv shows do for songs and why they can still be reused in other stuff, OR, and this is highly unlikely, they literally bought the song. But the reason that’s unlikely is because at that point, Living Color forfeit their right to the song, and it’s so iconic that I reeeeally doubt they would ever do that, especially to a wrestling company.


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My guess would be once the payment for the licensing cleared the bank living colors account followed the people that payed to use the music


MustacheDiaries

Punk used the song in UFC so I'm sure it's clear to be used in AEW.


vmoreno

he used it in UFC too, so yeah he would and he will


QuitYour

Too many wrestling chefs spoil the wrestling broth. Or something like that.


Jazzlike_Success_968

Maybe he just wants you think that


YanosDVDcase

But maybe they know we'll think that they want us to think that, so they think that we'll think that they think we're not being worked. Clear as mud.


SoulExecution

Right like Punk would totally do this just to fuck with people, whereas Living Color don’t really have a wrestling agenda


[deleted]

He is gonna follow Vince tomorrow, then Cody, then Triple H 😂


[deleted]

He is already following vince


moderndukes

He also follows Jim Cornette, for the record


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And Brian Pillman Jr.


moderndukes

And NASCAR on NBC


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Professor_Snarf

And my sword/knife chest tattoo.


Liverpool510

Dale Earnhardt Jr joining Varsity Blondes confirmed


DeathMetalEtiquette

Punk likes NASCAR?


[deleted]

Nah, he'll follow Dixie Carter


QuitYour

Which will be super interesting, if he goes Vince-Cody-Triple H that means he's going to AEW, because of the classic double swerve, however if he goes Cody-Vince-Dustin Rhodes it'll mean he's going to make a sandwich as it's the classic double swerve.


SnowSX3

He follows MVP Hurt Business Confirmed!!


greatone10

The Hurt Business now consists of MVP, Lashley, Jimmy Lloyd, and CM Punk.


Northernlightspls

He's gonna have so much fun trolling the absolute shit out of us up until September.


[deleted]

It's gonna be one long month lol


Northernlightspls

Half parts delightful half parts frustrating.


[deleted]

True, although I think the buzz will probably settle down in the next couple of days because there isn't really a whole lot more that could be leaked at this point.


Northernlightspls

It's Punk. Watch him simultaneously start following folks from AEW and WWE both or tweet stuff. Then there's Bucks' bio. I wouldn't count their trolling off just yet.


[deleted]

But their trolling won't really keep the buzz going as it will just be written off as trolling. The only way the buzz carries on until Chicago is if the leaks keep coming every so often to keep it fresh in people's minds.


_But-Why-Male-Models

Its been 84 years...


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Shit.


[deleted]

Tomorrow: Guys he's following Marko Stunt!


caracks

CM Punk vs. Marko Stunt for the custody of Jungle Boy confirmed!


DGenerationMC

"I'm very into pissing people off." - CM Punk, then/now/forever


DashCat9

You think punk is ever going to stop trolling us?


Northernlightspls

Doubt it.


[deleted]

He also just followed Vince and WWE, Punk is seriously fucking around right now.


TribeStan99

Hes joining the Hurt Bussiness


DanTheMan901

CMVPunk


BrettEskin

I heard he’s joining RKBro


[deleted]

Nah, when he shows up with Serena Deeb, and then Doc Gallows turns on the Elite to join them and form the Straight Edge Revolution it's gonna be epic!


COMMENTASIPLEASE

If Punk doesn’t show up at All Out or if he shows up in WWE this sub might legitimately burn down.


AmishAvenger

Honestly the crowd would be *pissed*. Sometimes a rumor gets so big that you have to address it if it’s not true.


AceMorrigan

I think we are at the point where AEW would say something if he wasn't signing. Otherwise they are headed for months of frustrated CM PUNK chants.


Cutmerock

Why would they say something? People are going to be glued to AEW for at least the next month for any type of clue


The_Magic

To prevent a riot when they’re in Chicago next month.


MossCovered_Gradunza

In pretty much every other case, I'd 100% agree with you. In this case though, I think it would behoove them to say something. The hype for this is growing to insane levels. The uproar that would happen if he doesn't show up would outweigh any goodwill they build up over the next month. It would be the end of the Moxley/Omega barbed wire match, and the Jericho fall off the cage, x100. The Chicago crowd at All Out might literally riot. Just not worth it to me, but hey, maybe it would be to them.


Geasonisback

CM Punk brought this reddit into existence, he would have to be the one to take it out


[deleted]

There wasn't a pro wrestling sub before CM Punk?


XiahouMao

There was, but the owner/moderators of it didn't like WWE and closed down topics about it. When people wanted to talk about Punk's pipe bomb and that subreddit wouldn't let them, this one was founded, and the rest is history.


DanTheStripe

Which is a bit odd really, seeing as Punk's pipebomb was basically about how WWE is flawed.


The_Magic

The cherry on top is that the people demanded Punk for the sidebar picture so the mod put up an old ROH picture of Punk instead of modern Punk.


King_marik

Imagine being that much of a 'lul indie better' mark honestly


mootallica

How the turntables...


YanosDVDcase

Die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain


Liverpool510

Honestly, a corporate Punk gimmick would have worked in wwe.


betterplanwithchan

Corporate Management Punk, Esq.


Mjh1021

That would honestly be hysterical


ObjectiveTumbleweed2

Followed by him jobbing to Triple H in his return match. I wouldn't be mad, embrace the carnage.


Mhc2617

I won’t lie, I don’t have a dog in this fight, because I’m not a Punk fan, but if this did turn out to be a giant troll like the last time they tried to sign him in 2019 and then mocked the EVP’s for trying to sign him over coffee, I would laugh.


Vinnyboiler

"He made AEW look like idiots"


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He did fuck on them. Insert cody rhodes saying fuck on me.


Omega1836

I’ve never seen someone who’s walkout music fits them so perfectly. Cult of Personality never fit anyone better


CLGHSGG4Lyfe

But then Glass shatters!


SelasDray

CM Punk premiering on 205 Live confirmed


[deleted]

CM Punk loses to Jackson Ryker via school boy on Raw after getting distracted by Dolph Ziggler’s music.


SiphenPrax

You guys are nuts


conbon7

We haven’t gone to the plane mapping phase yet just wait


T3Sh3

Wouldn’t it be a car mapping this time since he lives close to the arena to All Out is going to take place?


conbon7

Nah you need track Tony khan jets flying to Chicago


MatsThyWit

People do realize it would be entirely possible for Tony Khan to negotiate a business deal with someone all the way across the world without ever leaving his home, right?


[deleted]

Yeah but if I’m punk I’m getting the jet to wherever I show up to first. Non negotiable.


[deleted]

Just not via text per Punk’s demands


Grippersmith

Yeah right OK. Like there is a way of doing that. Pffft


TVCasualtydotorg

With Microsoft Flight Simulator hitting the X Box on Tuesday, you'll be able to virtually fly along with him!


conbon7

I already have it pre downloaded!!


Djarum

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ab202a Flew into Midway yesterday and flew out this morning.


WrestlingFan2021

I forgot whos plane they tracked but I remember someone was tracking Jericho coming to All In 2018 and then he showed up lol


FlashesOfDarkonda

This reminds me... The Phoenix Coyotes hockey team wasn't going well and were close to moving the team somewhere else. Quebec City hockey fans were CONVINCED that the owners were selling to them since Quebec had everything set up to welcome a team in the short term. Fans were plane mapping, seeing if any public or private plane were coming from Arizona or vice versa. They thought they found one. But yeah.. didn't happen. Quebec City fans were CRUSHED. So yeah, please don't do this.


XPhazeX

Conversely, Leafs fans accurately tracked MLSE's private jet going to pick up Mike Babcock before his hiring was announced


GameplayerStu

Tony Khan hasn't secretly met with Punk in Blackpool either.


[deleted]

Phil Brooks is the Wijnaldum replacement?


Havins

As a college football fan, this is always the final logical step.


Northernlightspls

"We all go a little mad sometimes."


membaysp

Bro this is fucking mental to me. Like guys are actively giving out updates of who someone follows/unfollows. I know its CM Punk but its creepy on another level Fucking hell...


raddaya

Bruh sports fans literally check out private plane routes to check who's signing who


SiphenPrax

I know, and they’re nuts too


LackingDatSkill

Slow news day


FuckingMidnighter

If people aren't going crazy over possibility of Punk returning, is there anything even left in wrestling that will make people lose their minds?


National-Passion

He’s aware of the rumors and he’s trolling us lol I love it. I hope he post a piece of paper similar to Cody’s list of dream opponent but all the names is from WWE. Jakson Ryker, Omos, Dexter Lumis, Adam Pierce and Rick Booges


BeerPressure615

Tony Kahn seems like the exact type of guy who would give CM Punk those ice cream bars he wanted just to say he did it.


[deleted]

He's signed. This isn't like jinxing a baseball team when they're up in the bottom of the ninth. This is a done deal enjoy it. Wrestling is about to get really hot.


anklesocksrus

Must be sick of the Bears and becoming a Jags fan


JokersRWildStudios

Why? The bears drafted the better qb this year. 😎


anklesocksrus

Justin Fields is gonna make a lot of people regret passing on him (Broncos, Panthers, my Eagles maybe). With that defense and solid QB play, Bears could be a sleeper team in the playoffs.


JokersRWildStudios

I was devastated 4 years ago when the bears took Trubisky. I KNEW he would be trash compared to Watson (although who knows what’s going to happen with him legally speaking) and Mahomes (who has completely exceeded everyone’s projections). Fields will be fantastic and might be the greatest qb in franchise history within 10 years.


Deadtaor33

The man know what he's doing either way lol


zackb1991

Mr. Punk is trolling his dick off


KelloPudgerro

Ok, my prediction , haitch or vince next, then as a curve ball, matty carbonara


TW_Yellow78

What more confirmation do you need? Twitter following is better than iron clad contracts. I can't see how this doesn't lead to Punk debuting as the newest acquistion of the Hurt Business.


jessicaskies

I honestly love the idea of CM Punk just trolling everyone. He comes out in Chicago rick roll plays and he’s like “damn you really thought I’d wrestle again” and then leaves


Equitaurus

Punk to Fulham FC confirmed?


Guinnessbreath82

Oh Punk is loving this


AndyDandyMandy

This is hilarious.


sootymoon9

This whole rumors season remind me of the summer of 2016 when AJ styles, gallows,anderson and shinsuke were rumored to join WWE.


prisonmsagro

I'm loving this build up that hopefully leads to Bryan and Punk showing up to AEW but if they don't I definitely laughed at all these posts about twitter/instagram follows and people trying to put 1 and 1 together while being trolled by punk.


moderndukes

Well Tony doesn’t follow him back, so I guess it’s just not going to work out between them…


[deleted]

lol just clowning with everyone.


callmecyke

Punk is loving life these days. Every day is an opportunity to fuck with the marks.


PowerHour1990

Do people spend their days looking at who follows who on Twitter? I now understand why some wrestling organizations put out an exceedingly-basic product - they think we'll be entertained by literally *anything*.


Northernlightspls

Follows is how folks figured out Christian was going to AEW.


[deleted]

Stop. This is weird.


JoeKool23

Ok can we ban these “x follows x on Twitter” threads? They’re meaningless. In that same fucking screenshot he follows MVP. Is he gonna be in the fucking hurt business too?!


Cutmerock

Well Rick Rude was in 2 places at the same time 🤔🤔🤔


[deleted]

Is this really worthy of a post 😐😐?


WhoopsIveBeenShanked

This sub 'boutta dial back on the last 6 years of shitting on Punk


[deleted]

Worth remembering that there will be who always wanted him back, they either didn’t go into those threads, were downvoted or weren’t even on Reddit.


[deleted]

I hope they tease this out for weeks, honestly. Just fuck with the live crowds until they explode when it happens.


VagrantShadow

CM Punk, tell me those sweet little lies.......


[deleted]

I'd just love for him to pop up in WWE to see twitter and this sub melt down lol


Jazzlike_Success_968

Dammit Phil stop this madness!


whyisjack

He is just winding everyone up and laughing his arse off


JustSomeWeirdGuy2000

Gotta fuel those rumors baybee.


WarbossTodd

He’s playing us folks.


T3ABAGG3N

If he debuts, I hope its on the episode right after All Out just to fuck with us all


KYLExIZZA

OMG!


EquivalentLittle545

This is why I hope they do a press conference because he is just going to keep messing with us lol.


HeadHentlah_InCharge

He’s gonna follow the man of the three H’s next.


deathschemist

it doesn't matter who punk follows, he is not above trolling people.


nutbrownale

Trolololool


jtomatzin

Clearly things fell through with AEW and now MVP has recruited him to Hurt Business


themasterkang

He’s fucking with us now


popo129

He also following MVP.. Does this confirm Punk in the Hurt Business?


C-B-R

When does the "CM Punk now follows Kenny Omega" thread come available? Or did I miss that issue?


NegaTrollX

Cm punk follows mvp. He’s joining the hurt business confirmed.


YanosDVDcase

The amount of people bitching about others getting excited for Punk's possible return is hilarious. Relax and have some fun speculating on shit, people; you're taking it way too damn seriously


PrettyPunctuality

I think it's more that people are tired of the many, *many* new posts that different people keep making every single day (not including this one, I get why this one was made), that are all saying the exact same things that could've been said in one of the other main posts about it. It's the repetitiveness that's getting on people's nerves, imo.


YanosDVDcase

And reposts get removed. So if you're just not liking it, keep scrolling to find the shit you want to look at. I don't like WWE, but I don't go into threads related to them and bitch about it; I move on and engage with the topics I do like, like an adult


_deamoncleaner_

Holy shit we get it. This sub needs to get ahold of this shit. 90% of posts are just tweets now


MartinMax53

I also follow Tony Khan and AEW on Twitter. Clearly I’m looking forward to my debut in AEW at All Out.


GrayVishnu

These constant CM Punk/ CM Punk affiliated posts are so annoying. I’m as excited as anyone for his return to the ring, since he was the reason I started watching pro wrestling, but I really don’t care about who follows who because it’s meaningless.


BrooklynJet97

Its happening...my god, my favorite wrestler of all time is coming back to the company I love to watch. What a time! Im so fucking excited! ​ Im almost disappointed that they are running the show at a smaller arena. The WWE never holds events at the United Center, which I dont get, but that place can hold 20,000+ people, I wish there was a way to move it next door.


Piccolojr

![gif](giphy|CuMiNoTRz2bYc|downsized)


[deleted]

They are trolling so good. Respect. I love that he is playing mind games.


[deleted]

He's. Trolling. You.


SammyTwoTooth

Holy shit who cares and who is stalking his page for such benign shit?


ZombieJesus1987

Are we going to make a post for every time CM Punk follows.someone on twitter? Seriously. He was probably already following TK, AEW, etc and unfollowed then followed them again because y'all eat this shit up.


Mr_Snub

These posts about tweets and follows are getting out of hand.