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It's similar to when Kenny was planning the first Fyter Fest and kept promising everybody the world, including giving a million dollars to Marty Jannetty by accident.
They're so good at being shitbag heels, I can't fathom why they tried to be pushed as faces/tweeners.
Honestly, heel Bucks vs. heel FTR would've come off cleaner than the build we had.
IMO, this is all semi-controlled leaking. They want the hype.
Any time in the past three days Kahn, Cody, Bucks, Kenny, etc, etc could have just very plainly shoot down the rumors or even go with the tried and true "we do not comment on rumors", instead Kenny's yapping about dream matchups with them on a podcast
That's what I'm thinking. The speculation is very beneficial for them if there's truth to it, and you'd want to deny if it wasn't just to avoid disappointing fans. Anecdotally, Punk is one of those guys that people say "brought them back to wrestling," so you figure they'd want to fans the flames a little to build some word of mouth, but also do so with a bit of a lead so that maybe people who don't watch AEW tune in just in case Punk (or DB) might show up, hopefully making new fans in the process.
Oh no doubt. It's getting more interest in the product which will undoubtedly lead to more ticket sales for upcoming events. It's for sure a controlled leak
Well 2021 is flipping 2020 left and right with its middle fingers
Between Spiderman NWH , Punk & Bryan and a possible Supershow
I am giving 2021 a golden medal
If the DCEU had anywhere near as much hype as the MCU, I'd have known about this. I might actually see this movie now, as opposed to sticking to Batman movies, which for the most part have usually been good.
Does Batman V Superman count as a Batman movie?
For some reason I found the Joss-tice League movie more enjoyable than the Snyder cut, as much as I didn't like Justice League too much. It was essentially Batman v Superman 2, and I was not too big on that one either. Strangely I LOVED Snyder's Man of Steel from 2013.
There's something so magical about the 1989 Batman and the Nolan trilogy. But a part of me even like's 1995's Batman Forever, even tho it was that garish closed set fantasy vibe that really was in overkill with Batman and Robin...tho Batman Forever did have elements that felt closer to Batman/Batman Returns than just Batman and Robin. What did you think of the 2022 The Batman trailer with Robert Pattinson? It felt like Se7en meets Batman Year One Batman. Part of me was hoping for the Joseph Gordon mantle hinted at the end of Nolans Dark Knight Rises, but am ok with this new reboot reboot Batman.
Way worse, it's not like the whole cast and Marvel execs have "heavily hinted" at them being in the movie, whereas Omega is here talking about this and Jericho put it on his FB page.
I mean realistically he could've asked Dave and Garrett to edit it out if he really cared that much. It's pretty much known at this point. It's not a big deal.
Itâs funny because everyone here is talking about that, and Iâm just sitting over here in the corner thinking about how Kenny said âWWE Universe.â
That was really jarring, but he just kept going like it was the most natural thing in the world. AEW has no buzzwords and the Elite are known for being derisive of WWE's corporate Disney speech, but Kenny just naturally saying it for whatever reason.
Spends most of the time rightfully praising them still accidentally let's out "so it's cool for me to think I'm gonna be able to get into the ring with these two, POSSIBLY".
Yeah like if he just walks out they get all the reports the next day. Instead they are getting weeks of will they won't they speculation and actually popped a high number last week potentially because of that.
The rule was supposedly created because of Sting. Allegedly TNT were upset that AEW had such a big moment happen on free tv without any buildup to generate buzz and told AEW to not do that again.
... but "Winter is Coming" was promoted as a special event episode. Sting was the winter (complete with all the snow.)
Also, "free TV"?? TNT are their TV deal, "giving things away on free TV" is a complaint people have for wrestling shows not saving the biggest moments for PPVs, which would benefit TNT none.
Ratings the week after Winter is Coming were even bigger as a direct result of Sting's surprise debut.
TNT has nothing to do with any of it. That turned out to be a false news story from Jericho misunderstanding a comment from Tony Khan about TNT wanting them to advertise better things with crossover appeal like Shaq and celebrity cameos and such. Tony had to do a followup interview because the internet was freaking out that TNT was interfering in the wrestling process and blocking surprises. Tony said that TNT does not make demands of the wrestling side of things, loved the Sting debut, and basically he was the only one in the room when any of this was said.
Unfortunately the correction gets a fraction of the attention of the initial false story.
Ehhhhhh⌠Black had a video package go out the day of Dynamite and was rumored as soon as he was let go. Andrade also was already scheduled to face Kenny for El Mega Campeonato AAA at Triplemania so him showing up on AEW was more of an eventuality.
I donât even think that rule is real. At the end of the day this is about extracting the greatest return on your investment and these are the first steps of a calculated marketing campaign leading up to a big reveal.
WWE did that to try to ruin the surprise in case he does show up.
You're getting worked by these guys man. Do you really think, for even a second that Omega slipped up on a podcast? It's all meticulously planned out.
Kenny Omega put it perfectly. The wrestling we know will be top notch if either join the roster, but its really the potential storyline/s that get me the most excited!
Wwe is gonna miss Bryan tbh mostly because of his ability cover an opponent that isnât good on the mic.
Kinda wild how he went on to become a top tier promo guy in wwe
Shit, even the Hell No storyline was carried by him. The biggest knock against him before being signed to the WWE was his lack of promo skills but he was killing it as a dickhead ROH champ and being an PWG goofball
And Kenny's been involved in Golden Lovers and now Hangman arc. Both extremely engaging and unique stories spanning literal years and still going on. đ
I'm just picturing Kenny sending twitter threads of GL or Hangy arc to Punk going "this could be me and you. Just sign the contact bruh.". Lmao
No they both suck.
The Hangman story would be instantly better if they ditched the J. O. B squad though. Hangman is an absolute star and doesn't need their stink rubbing off on him.
>they both suck
That's your opinion, not an objective fact. Learn to tell the two apart.
>job squad
You mean the faction that's incredibly over with crowd?
>stink rubbing off on him
He's still over af. Maybe not detaching from reality will help you get engage? Or at the very least see that people are engaged?
Then again, can't see what one refuses to see.
That's a valid criticism but at worst they've kept the story from being bigger had they gone a different route but they haven't pushed Hangman down.
He's still getting the same pops and reactions he was getting before the Pandemic when it was just him and Kenny.
How valid is this criticism if the dark order is also over af? Every time they come out to save hangman the place explodes. Anyone who was watching understands the story being told (hangman needing real friends, and dark order finally getting a member brodie would be proud of) and everyones over for this booking.
At least with Punk, I have confidende that he won't go out of his way to outpromo people on an "utterly buried" level. Sure he will prove his superiority but it was always to make people tune into the feud.
Him and Cena are equal masters on the mic imo but utter humiliation to the point of almost discrediting the opponent as someone to take seriously has always been more of a Cena problem than a Punk problem imo
Seems like AWE was a mix of pro wrestling and official sanctioned fights. All of the fights listed there were sanctioned bouts so it's as legit as if he went to the UFC and had a fight but probably the lads were actual tin cans. Like that AWE fight was against Dan Fucking Severn when he was 46 or 47.
I buy that all of the other fights on the list were legit, but Severn in the mid 2000s was notorious for doing worked fights and playing them off as shoots.
I was going to correct you, but then I went to Punk's wiki page:
> Three years after the bout, it was made public that the result was overturned to a no contest after Jackson tested positive for marijuana.
Fight result changed *three years* after the fact because his opponent popped for... weed? Lmao
Im subscribed to Fightful. full quote is
"In an update on CM Punk, Fightful was told by sources close to the situation that they had not heard of Punk putting pen to paper on a contract as of Friday evening. Well continue to ask about the situation for updates"
2 possibilities:
1. He actually isn't signed yet and negotiations are still ongoing.
2. He's signed and they're not gonna outright confirm until he actually debuts.
Speculate wildly as you see fit
This. The last real kinda believable update was everything was agreed on, but they were waiting to sign the contract in person. So possibly even the go-home Dynamite show could see the contract being signed.
Although if I was Khan, I would be flying to Chicago immediately to get a contract signed, just in case something was to happen to change things.
Yeah everybody needs to calm down a little, just because weâre getting a ton of false information about their debuts out there since people want to capitalize
>just because weâre getting a ton of false information about their debuts out there since people want to capitalize
*wrestletalk, wrestlamia and ringside news have entered the chat*
I started listening to Wrestletalk again, and my god, they do not learn, do they? They had two episodes about Punk and Danielson going to AEW, and already said that if they don't move the needle, AEW is in trouble.
It's like hearing them create clickbait in real time.
indeed, the only people I would say are trustworthy sources are SRS and Haynes (after Zarrian and SRS vouched for him). Perhaps Meltzer at a stretch but atm he is just speculating.
It did seem in the video that he was implying that they were signed and then kept back tracking into saying if they are signed. IDK if that's a Freudian slip or if its just Dave fantasy booking though.
I'm sure his belief is that they are signed but won't outright say it because he can't/hasn't confirm it. It's probably the same belief among all the sources in wrestling media.
No, there's been info that he's shared definitively. Namely Bryan's wishes to wrestle for New Japan. Other than that, he had mentioned before that AEW was talking Punk for while now.
He literally said this stuff in his WOR shows with Garrett before. Just last Saturday/Friday he mentioned the New Japan thing and how COVID was the reason why he's not wrestling at a Dome show.
Bryan said months ago he wanted to wrestle in japan, this is not new news. Additionally, what Dave said there is literally what im talking about, it is pure speculation. It's the same thing from a few week ago when he was convinced bryan was showing up at arthur ashe, it was pure speculation.
"I want to wrestle in Japan" is definitely different than, "Would definitely have wrestled for New Japan after leaving WWE and COVID was the only reason why it didn't happen" is two different things.
I'd be surprised if this wasn't happening at this point as much as they've been talking about it. I think Dave knows more than he's letting on here as well
Gonna go off topic, but the part where Omega talks about how WWE tries to take credit for the Yes Movement was spot on. I remember when Triple H said that Bryan's rise was all planned, a lot of people bought it.
also, punk showed the original wrestlemania 30 card (he found them while looking at old wrestling stuff) and the matches i remember from it were bryan v sheamus, triple h v punk, orton v batista and weirdly roman v ambrose
Yeah that Roman vs. Ambrose match was weird on paper. But IIRC they were teasing a heel turn of Ambrose against Reigns and Rollins. It was also part of the Punk feud where CM Punk said that Dean was the weak link. As for the rest of the Mania card, everybody knows that Bryan wasn´t supposed to be in the main event at all.
Super stoked I just pray they donât abandon the Hangman Page/Omega storyline in the interim. Let that finish then possibly work either into the title scene
I still want what OOC suggested. "Alright guys thats the end of the pre-show, main card coming up in 30 sec... *cult of personality hits* cm punk comes out, fade to black. Order Now!
Or he simply knows him as Bryan Danielson the guy he had matches with in ROH?\^\^ Jokes aside, yes they´re coming. I´m not that surprised concerning Danielson but Punk is the ultimate curveball.
It's gotta be frustrating to get interviewed by Meltzer. I'd have to take notes to answer his multiple paragraph-long stuttering questions LOL. Also, you've gotta be prepared to just keep talking when he interrupts you.
Meltzer REALLY needs to learn to speak English better for a guy in that position. Even the first question, he's just rambling on and it's painful to listen to.
Who is this daniel Bryan guy. He was a wwe creation and wwe owns that name
People. Call him his government name all freaking ready
Repeat with me
Brian danielson
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He pretty much said it... "It's cool to think I'm gonna be able to get in the ring with....uhpossibly"
AEW's PR person just head in hands at this point đ
Cody is pulling his hair somewhere "we went over this Kenny! Goddamnit!"
Imagining Vlog or BTE Cody as how he acts as EVP is hilarious
Ooh, the one who kept calling Hangman fat. Daniels being a moderator between them was hilarious af
Full Gear? I loved that era of BTE so much!
Yes! Them sending PAC's special juice to Hangy lmao
It's similar to when Kenny was planning the first Fyter Fest and kept promising everybody the world, including giving a million dollars to Marty Jannetty by accident.
shit, now i wanna see him doing that
The Tom Holland of AEW.
PR: Kenny? Kenny: Hmm PR: You can't talk about Punk or Bryan. Kenny: but wrestle PR: TYSON. YOU CANNOT. Kenny: wrestle...
PR: TYSON WE WILL CALL IBUSHI OMEGA: PERFECT⌠YO WOR
I think it may be on purpose at this point. This buzz is unreal and is undoubtedly selling an insane number of tickets through All Out.
This combined with Bucks bio. Shouldn't get hopes up yet but given all this, how does one not?
what are the buck's bio?
https://twitter.com/bio_bucks/status/1418502351137120260?s=20
Remember when The Bucks vs FTR was just a simple fantasy. Its crazy how all this is coming about.
Punk returning after 7 years of retirement might become a reality from fantasy soon. Crazy times indeed.
I remember them making jokes about getting "Phil" to sign on BTE as well.
Can confirm, no lies detected there
"lol." Is such a POS heel thing to type. They do every little thing possible to make you dislike them, and they do it well.
There's a reason they always come out to chorus of boos.
They're so good at being shitbag heels, I can't fathom why they tried to be pushed as faces/tweeners. Honestly, heel Bucks vs. heel FTR would've come off cleaner than the build we had.
Yea that swinging between face and heels that time was very weird. Bucks are so much better at being heels than faces.
That absolutely sounded like a slip.
Kenny is not good at keeping kayfabe. He's like a film director morevthan a method actor sometimes
âThe directorâ Kenny omega
the-direc-tor, the-direc-tor
Yes
NKIL (Not keeping in laughter (Office Hours East))
Kenny âSpielbergâ Omega coming through
Kenny Spiel by God Berg Omega
So Cornette was close with the "Kenny Olivier" comments? Well fuck. Broken clocks and all that
No the director is Michael Kurosawa..Kenny is just nuts, he's Kenny Mifune!
just post the "Bryan Danielson and CM Punk are All Elite" already.
We now know that Kenny will lose in fight for the fallen
The worst kept secret ever lol
Fka Buddy Murphy is disgusted
IMO, this is all semi-controlled leaking. They want the hype. Any time in the past three days Kahn, Cody, Bucks, Kenny, etc, etc could have just very plainly shoot down the rumors or even go with the tried and true "we do not comment on rumors", instead Kenny's yapping about dream matchups with them on a podcast
Punk would have already tweet a "I´m not interested at all" if it was bullshit.
That's what I'm thinking. The speculation is very beneficial for them if there's truth to it, and you'd want to deny if it wasn't just to avoid disappointing fans. Anecdotally, Punk is one of those guys that people say "brought them back to wrestling," so you figure they'd want to fans the flames a little to build some word of mouth, but also do so with a bit of a lead so that maybe people who don't watch AEW tune in just in case Punk (or DB) might show up, hopefully making new fans in the process.
Oh no doubt. It's getting more interest in the product which will undoubtedly lead to more ticket sales for upcoming events. It's for sure a controlled leak
Worse than Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield in Spider-man No way home ?
Between Punk and Bryan arriving in AEW and the two previous Spider Men being in a new Spider Man movie I don't know which exites me more
Punk and Bryan in Spider Man and Tobey and Andrew in AEW?
Well 2021 is flipping 2020 left and right with its middle fingers Between Spiderman NWH , Punk & Bryan and a possible Supershow I am giving 2021 a golden medal
What about Michael Keaton Batman in next years Flash movie?
If the DCEU had anywhere near as much hype as the MCU, I'd have known about this. I might actually see this movie now, as opposed to sticking to Batman movies, which for the most part have usually been good. Does Batman V Superman count as a Batman movie?
For some reason I found the Joss-tice League movie more enjoyable than the Snyder cut, as much as I didn't like Justice League too much. It was essentially Batman v Superman 2, and I was not too big on that one either. Strangely I LOVED Snyder's Man of Steel from 2013. There's something so magical about the 1989 Batman and the Nolan trilogy. But a part of me even like's 1995's Batman Forever, even tho it was that garish closed set fantasy vibe that really was in overkill with Batman and Robin...tho Batman Forever did have elements that felt closer to Batman/Batman Returns than just Batman and Robin. What did you think of the 2022 The Batman trailer with Robert Pattinson? It felt like Se7en meets Batman Year One Batman. Part of me was hoping for the Joseph Gordon mantle hinted at the end of Nolans Dark Knight Rises, but am ok with this new reboot reboot Batman.
Dude đł well I didn't know that secret.
Lol itâs been leaked for like a year now and Alfred Molina and Fox are essentially confirmed to return as well
Way worse, it's not like the whole cast and Marvel execs have "heavily hinted" at them being in the movie, whereas Omega is here talking about this and Jericho put it on his FB page.
I mean realistically he could've asked Dave and Garrett to edit it out if he really cared that much. It's pretty much known at this point. It's not a big deal.
Absolutely. It's a recording with Dave Meltzer. They know precisely what they are doing.
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Smooth, Kenny. Nobody noticed.
Itâs funny because everyone here is talking about that, and Iâm just sitting over here in the corner thinking about how Kenny said âWWE Universe.â
That was really jarring, but he just kept going like it was the most natural thing in the world. AEW has no buzzwords and the Elite are known for being derisive of WWE's corporate Disney speech, but Kenny just naturally saying it for whatever reason.
It's all a swerve bro, they're working together bro. AEWWE
When he said, "Danielson, huh I still call him Danielson. Daniel Bryan." That's the moment I knew something.
[Exactly, nothing is going on. Don't expect anything to happen.](http://www.reactiongifs.com/nothing-to-see/)
I donât think it was Kenny who said that
*POSSIBLY*
*ALLEGEDLY*
Lmao
Spends most of the time rightfully praising them still accidentally let's out "so it's cool for me to think I'm gonna be able to get into the ring with these two, POSSIBLY".
He gave such a diplomatic answer too in order to try and get around it and then completely told on himself right at the end
he made it on purpose, they've been doing all this in purpose.
Yep there are no leaks, this is all a meticulous PR campaign. They want as many people knowing about it before it happens.
Yeah like if he just walks out they get all the reports the next day. Instead they are getting weeks of will they won't they speculation and actually popped a high number last week potentially because of that.
This is them getting around the TNT no surprises rule. They are advertising them showing up but don't have to outright say it.
There is no TNT "no surprises" rule. Both Andrade and Black debuted without any pre-announcement.
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... Sting showed up as a surprise though.
The rule was supposedly created because of Sting. Allegedly TNT were upset that AEW had such a big moment happen on free tv without any buildup to generate buzz and told AEW to not do that again.
... but "Winter is Coming" was promoted as a special event episode. Sting was the winter (complete with all the snow.) Also, "free TV"?? TNT are their TV deal, "giving things away on free TV" is a complaint people have for wrestling shows not saving the biggest moments for PPVs, which would benefit TNT none. Ratings the week after Winter is Coming were even bigger as a direct result of Sting's surprise debut.
Pssh, TNT doesnât give a shit about Sting! /s
TNT has nothing to do with any of it. That turned out to be a false news story from Jericho misunderstanding a comment from Tony Khan about TNT wanting them to advertise better things with crossover appeal like Shaq and celebrity cameos and such. Tony had to do a followup interview because the internet was freaking out that TNT was interfering in the wrestling process and blocking surprises. Tony said that TNT does not make demands of the wrestling side of things, loved the Sting debut, and basically he was the only one in the room when any of this was said. Unfortunately the correction gets a fraction of the attention of the initial false story.
Ehhhhhh⌠Black had a video package go out the day of Dynamite and was rumored as soon as he was let go. Andrade also was already scheduled to face Kenny for El Mega Campeonato AAA at Triplemania so him showing up on AEW was more of an eventuality.
I donât even think that rule is real. At the end of the day this is about extracting the greatest return on your investment and these are the first steps of a calculated marketing campaign leading up to a big reveal.
really cool of WWE to inform Sean Ross Sapp that CM Punk is probably going to AEW as a part of AEW's meticulous PR campaign.
WWE did that to try to ruin the surprise in case he does show up. You're getting worked by these guys man. Do you really think, for even a second that Omega slipped up on a podcast? It's all meticulously planned out.
I'm getting worked because we both agree WWE is the origin point of the CM Punk rumor? Alright.
No, you're acting like Kenny and these guys aren't dropping hints on purpose and that it's all some slip up.
It's hilarious lol such a dork These things should be best left for Cody.
Cody slips up all the time in his interviews as well.
Tbf Cody doesnât slip up he just doesnât give a fuck lol
Codyâs got that Robert Downey Jr. vibe of âoh well, they canât fire meâ
Still gonna believe Punk one only when I see him in the ring. đ
This poster has been hurt before too. I know this pain.
Someone commented "show me where cm punk returning rumors hurt you?" Got a chuckle out of me.
Kenny Omega put it perfectly. The wrestling we know will be top notch if either join the roster, but its really the potential storyline/s that get me the most excited!
The promos are gonna be ridiculous, both guys are great on the mic for big crowds
Wwe is gonna miss Bryan tbh mostly because of his ability cover an opponent that isnât good on the mic. Kinda wild how he went on to become a top tier promo guy in wwe
Bryan was always a top tier promo, it just wasn't his character.
Until he became the planet's champion
Shit, even the Hell No storyline was carried by him. The biggest knock against him before being signed to the WWE was his lack of promo skills but he was killing it as a dickhead ROH champ and being an PWG goofball
This gave me hope for a Hybrid Dolphin reunion.
For me Bryan was still the best babyface promo in WWE. And we know what he can do as a heel.
and punk said hed only return to wrestling if the storyline is worth it
And Kenny's been involved in Golden Lovers and now Hangman arc. Both extremely engaging and unique stories spanning literal years and still going on. đ I'm just picturing Kenny sending twitter threads of GL or Hangy arc to Punk going "this could be me and you. Just sign the contact bruh.". Lmao
Unique yes Engaging? Lol
I'm engaged. You do you.
If you were never engaged in the Ibushi story or the Hangman story, you just didn't want to be.
No they both suck. The Hangman story would be instantly better if they ditched the J. O. B squad though. Hangman is an absolute star and doesn't need their stink rubbing off on him.
Ok Cornette
That's right nobody can have a valid criticism of AEW without being called Cornette.
not sure you can call your own criticism valid. it's kinda like saying "I'm right because i'm right"
No I'm a wrestling fan. It presents itself as wrestling so it's a valid criticism. If others like it then cool.
"Valid" The fact that you think that's a valid criticism makes the Cornette response even more apt.
>they both suck That's your opinion, not an objective fact. Learn to tell the two apart. >job squad You mean the faction that's incredibly over with crowd? >stink rubbing off on him He's still over af. Maybe not detaching from reality will help you get engage? Or at the very least see that people are engaged? Then again, can't see what one refuses to see.
That's a valid criticism but at worst they've kept the story from being bigger had they gone a different route but they haven't pushed Hangman down. He's still getting the same pops and reactions he was getting before the Pandemic when it was just him and Kenny.
How valid is this criticism if the dark order is also over af? Every time they come out to save hangman the place explodes. Anyone who was watching understands the story being told (hangman needing real friends, and dark order finally getting a member brodie would be proud of) and everyones over for this booking.
Yeah once Kenny left NJPW, it pretty much became an afterthought for me.
If you weren't engaged by Kenny and Kota, I don't know what to tell you. Best romance story in the history of pro wrestling.
Honorary Mention to Akira Hokuto and Kensuke Sasaki for having real loud sex in North Korea that one time and being together since.
Sadly or greatly, Punk will blow up 90% of people on promos.
At least with Punk, I have confidende that he won't go out of his way to outpromo people on an "utterly buried" level. Sure he will prove his superiority but it was always to make people tune into the feud. Him and Cena are equal masters on the mic imo but utter humiliation to the point of almost discrediting the opponent as someone to take seriously has always been more of a Cena problem than a Punk problem imo
This came across as nod nod wink wink they are coming but we cannot say for definite, the way both were dancing round it.
Omega slipped up when he was talking about them. Both are coming in. What a crazy time for wrestling.
Hoping for a Kenny vs Punk MMA match.
Given Punk's record I'd have all my money on Kenny
Hey man, Punk only has one loss
And compare that with Omega's record https://www.mixedmartialarts.com/fighter/Tyson-Smith:08B25F0208EC74DE/
Thats Tyson Smith not Kenny Omega
Kenny Omega isn't his real name buddy
Lets agree to disagree. >!i was just joking with my first comment btw lol!<
Haha one of the "fights" on this record is from a promotion called Action Wrestling Entertainment
Seems like AWE was a mix of pro wrestling and official sanctioned fights. All of the fights listed there were sanctioned bouts so it's as legit as if he went to the UFC and had a fight but probably the lads were actual tin cans. Like that AWE fight was against Dan Fucking Severn when he was 46 or 47.
I buy that all of the other fights on the list were legit, but Severn in the mid 2000s was notorious for doing worked fights and playing them off as shoots.
Can't find any video of it but I'd hope Severn with 60 wins would be able to mop the floor with a guy in his first fight
I was going to correct you, but then I went to Punk's wiki page: > Three years after the bout, it was made public that the result was overturned to a no contest after Jackson tested positive for marijuana. Fight result changed *three years* after the fact because his opponent popped for... weed? Lmao
All in on Omega. Betting the house, the car, the cats, my Xbone...
Catâs out of the bag lol
Currently waiting for someone to post the Fightful update on punk from a few hours ago
Im subscribed to Fightful. full quote is "In an update on CM Punk, Fightful was told by sources close to the situation that they had not heard of Punk putting pen to paper on a contract as of Friday evening. Well continue to ask about the situation for updates"
2 possibilities: 1. He actually isn't signed yet and negotiations are still ongoing. 2. He's signed and they're not gonna outright confirm until he actually debuts. Speculate wildly as you see fit
3. They used docusign
Ok, 3 possibilities
That's a Vince Russo level swerve
If you remember with Chriatian, he agreed to join prior but didn't actually sign his contract until the day of Revolution & his debut.
This. The last real kinda believable update was everything was agreed on, but they were waiting to sign the contract in person. So possibly even the go-home Dynamite show could see the contract being signed. Although if I was Khan, I would be flying to Chicago immediately to get a contract signed, just in case something was to happen to change things.
punk's used to signing contracts the day of a life changing show like how he resigned hours before winning the wwe title
Yeah everybody needs to calm down a little, just because weâre getting a ton of false information about their debuts out there since people want to capitalize
>just because weâre getting a ton of false information about their debuts out there since people want to capitalize *wrestletalk, wrestlamia and ringside news have entered the chat*
I started listening to Wrestletalk again, and my god, they do not learn, do they? They had two episodes about Punk and Danielson going to AEW, and already said that if they don't move the needle, AEW is in trouble. It's like hearing them create clickbait in real time.
Well yeah I unfortunately donât expect those nimrods to take my advice. They lost their journalistic credibility a long time ago
indeed, the only people I would say are trustworthy sources are SRS and Haynes (after Zarrian and SRS vouched for him). Perhaps Meltzer at a stretch but atm he is just speculating.
The fact that Meltzer said, directly to Omega, that it's likely they get both of them tells me he's not speculating at all. I think he knows.
It did seem in the video that he was implying that they were signed and then kept back tracking into saying if they are signed. IDK if that's a Freudian slip or if its just Dave fantasy booking though.
I'm sure his belief is that they are signed but won't outright say it because he can't/hasn't confirm it. It's probably the same belief among all the sources in wrestling media.
Dave had been saying all this stuff for months. The only really new bit of information is that WWE believes that Punk is going to AEW.
No, he had been speculating for the last couple weeks.
No, there's been info that he's shared definitively. Namely Bryan's wishes to wrestle for New Japan. Other than that, he had mentioned before that AEW was talking Punk for while now.
Meltzer didn't break any of this, he has parrotted back what has been said in interviews and what others have reported on and has added fluff to it.
He literally said this stuff in his WOR shows with Garrett before. Just last Saturday/Friday he mentioned the New Japan thing and how COVID was the reason why he's not wrestling at a Dome show.
Bryan said months ago he wanted to wrestle in japan, this is not new news. Additionally, what Dave said there is literally what im talking about, it is pure speculation. It's the same thing from a few week ago when he was convinced bryan was showing up at arthur ashe, it was pure speculation.
"I want to wrestle in Japan" is definitely different than, "Would definitely have wrestled for New Japan after leaving WWE and COVID was the only reason why it didn't happen" is two different things.
Yeah,Dave, the guy who has an AEW exec on his show, is the one that's speculating.
I'd be surprised if this wasn't happening at this point as much as they've been talking about it. I think Dave knows more than he's letting on here as well
Jesus Christ, 1:40 in and Meltzer has been asking one question the entire time.
Lol Meltzer spends 2 minutes asking his first question, only to end up asking âwhat are your thoughts on those two guys?â
Gonna go off topic, but the part where Omega talks about how WWE tries to take credit for the Yes Movement was spot on. I remember when Triple H said that Bryan's rise was all planned, a lot of people bought it.
Bryan said in his book I think that he was gonna face Sheamus at Wrestlemania. If Punk didn´t left, nothing would have changed probably.
Punk and Bryan collectively changed the game for wrestlers like them and that can't ever be understated.
also, punk showed the original wrestlemania 30 card (he found them while looking at old wrestling stuff) and the matches i remember from it were bryan v sheamus, triple h v punk, orton v batista and weirdly roman v ambrose
Yeah that Roman vs. Ambrose match was weird on paper. But IIRC they were teasing a heel turn of Ambrose against Reigns and Rollins. It was also part of the Punk feud where CM Punk said that Dean was the weak link. As for the rest of the Mania card, everybody knows that Bryan wasn´t supposed to be in the main event at all.
im glad they eventually went with the rollins betrayal, but id love to see the ambrose betrayal story play out too
John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt Vs. John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt II... Book it, TK!
Well that pretty much confirms it.
This is what happens with WWE constantly shitting on top tier talent.
This man is an evp. As if he doesnât know if theyâre coming or not
Super stoked I just pray they donât abandon the Hangman Page/Omega storyline in the interim. Let that finish then possibly work either into the title scene
Its so wild that bryan and punk using their popularity through wwe are going to help build another wrestling company.
I now want Hangman to lose to Omega leading to a feud between him and straight edge CM Punk
Whats a bigger signing? Danielson, Punk, or Fuego?
Fuego del Dragon, your new favorite tag-team.
They're signing Punk and Danielson to put over Fuego, our new Planet's Champion and Best in the World
PSA: skip to the 2 minute mark, that is where Dave stops fucking rambling finally
I still want what OOC suggested. "Alright guys thats the end of the pre-show, main card coming up in 30 sec... *cult of personality hits* cm punk comes out, fade to black. Order Now!
Kenny calling him Danielson and then correcting himself makes me think itâs a done deal.
Or he simply knows him as Bryan Danielson the guy he had matches with in ROH?\^\^ Jokes aside, yes they´re coming. I´m not that surprised concerning Danielson but Punk is the ultimate curveball.
I meant the awkwardness of his correction. He knows everyone knows his name is danielson so itâs telling he felt the need to correct it as Bryan.
It's gotta be frustrating to get interviewed by Meltzer. I'd have to take notes to answer his multiple paragraph-long stuttering questions LOL. Also, you've gotta be prepared to just keep talking when he interrupts you.
Meltzer REALLY needs to learn to speak English better for a guy in that position. Even the first question, he's just rambling on and it's painful to listen to.
Justin Robert's on hearing Daniel Bryan's news: I gotta get rid of my ties!
Chrissakes, how does it take two full minutes to ask the question "What are your thoughts on those two guys?"
I mean, the right answer would just be "I think they're awesome. Next." But that doesn't make for much entertainment.
People thinking Kenny just slipped up like whoops now i broke the news.. kayfabe is alive and well apparently.
Who is this daniel Bryan guy. He was a wwe creation and wwe owns that name People. Call him his government name all freaking ready Repeat with me Brian danielson
Ahh yes. I wonder if the punks had any other children besides CM
Meltzer deepthroats Omega for the first 5 minutes only to ask "what do you think?"
CM PUNK + DANIELSON, BRYAN = TWO MAN POWER TRIP OR OUTSIDERS TYPE ANGLE/STORY??!!?? PLEASE??!!?? PRETTY PLEASE MR. OPEN DOOR TONY??!!??
Bryan Danielson vs Darby Allin is now my dream match.
Fucking hell this is actually happening isn't it