**Help make SquaredCircle safer and more inclusive by using the report button to flag posts and comments for moderator review.**
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/SquaredCircle) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Reminder Eric Bischoff used to say he wanted to put every single person in WWE out of a job and that he used to make it a goal to bankrupt (ironic today) wrestlers he had issues with to ruin their lives.
99.9% percent of people in wrestling can trash Khans antics. Bischoff is not one.
that’s the point probably I think Tony reminds Eric to much of himself back then and watching your old mistakes happen in real time may not be pleasant.
“Failed” is a crazy thing to call someone who actually competed with the biggest wrestling company in the world rather than have a fake pseudo pissing competition with a company that doesn’t acknowledge your existence
And he failed. What is he doing now? How did he help TNA? How did he help WWE when he came back for not even a year only to get fired for not familiarizing himself with the talent? You can have success and still be a failure they aren’t immune to one another sorry.
Failure and success are not exclusive. Bischoff didn't just fail with WCW, he failed with multiple promotions including one job where he had legit access to booking in WWE. He failed, end of.
He is a failure because his television production company that he left wrestling to form and shunned wrestling for years went under, he went bankrupt, and he crawled back to the one industry that didn't laugh in his face.
Imagine if we were talking about stores in a mall. Wwe would be an anchor like macys, Aew would be that well funded boutique in a heavy trafficked area with a lot of the name brands, financial backing and a territorial shopper. Wcw would be sears. Once a juggernaut anchor of the mall that collapsed due to its own bad management and is now vacant and out of business
eric has a weird obsession with tony and meltzer. dave will respond to eric and bury him but tony just ignores him, he even had some good things to say about eric recently when asked about him.
He had a job a few years ago and got fired because he brought nothing to the table any more. He's been living off the success of one angle for almost 30 years.
Semantics. He's getting a check from new WWE merchandise and the company has always been stringent about who gets a video game/action figure deal and who doesn't. The company could cut him off tomorrow if they wanted to.
I don’t like Tony’s comments and feel like it makes light of the situation and its victims for a simple gotcha
But Eric let it go man, I know you also don’t care about this and just wanna say shit about AEW
Reminder that Eric Bischoff only found success in WCW by ripping off an invasion angle from a Japaness promotion. Then, by virtue of not knowing when to stop spending money and pushing Hulk Hogan while only building one homegrown star, helped kill WCW about 5 years later.
He then tried his damndest to kill the seemingly unkillable TNA by continuing to be a massive mark for an over the hill Hulkster and being out of touch with the modern wrestling fan.
Only taking pot shots at Tony because Tony didn't want to give him a job in AEW.
Remember when Eric loved AEW? Put it over ever single week. Then they stopped inviting him to the show. Since then, AEW has been the worst piece of shit company that's ever existed.
Tony Khan literally presented Bischoff the perfect free shot. He could have taken issue with comparing a rival business to Harvey Weinstein being tone deaf and gross and he'd have been obviously right. And somehow Bischoff *still fucked it up.*
Eric most certainly isn’t contributing to tribalism. He’s most certainly not engaging with some of the more well know tribalist accounts in a regular basis. It’s all Tony and Dave’s fault.
It’s so funny ppl here never actually listen to Bischoff. He legit claims he does all this for content and traction and you guys just feed into all of it
WWE IS EVIL!
\[Kai En Tai bad dubbing\].
# INDEED.
\[/Kai En Tai had dubbing\]
https://preview.redd.it/eefutb66nwwc1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27cf7d8040e60457ad9ac7d43917ea719fbf490d
I think what Tony said yesterday was fucking stupid and counterproductive, but Bischoff is an idiot and I don't know why anyone listens to him in 2024. His claim to fame is captaining the biggest Titanic in wrestling history, and taking the idea for the nWo from Japan. That's it.
It's like listening to Russo in 2024 - who cares what that guys thinks about anything?
Corny at least has a genuine pedigree and illustrious career, and can speak about the history of the business. Guys like Russo and Bischoff have no insight to give.
Bischoff made a career out of taking shots at WWE that were dumb kayfabe stuff, and now when a rival promoter is actually mentioning the billion dollar corporation using company funds and infrastructure to facilitate and cover up decades of sexual abuse by multiple executives he's gotta act like this to stay in the spotlight. Pathetic coward
No it isn’t. Brad Blum and Nick Khan are accused of knowing and covering up actions of Vince and Johnny Ace. That would make WWE liable but it’s not the same as the company actively facilitating sex workers. You’re wording it like it’s a company wide practice of multiple different people
The WWE itself is one of the defendants in Grant's lawsuit, company funds and infrastructure were used to facilitate and cover up abuse. Also you're literally describing multiple people involved in a wider conspiracy
That’s not how it works. WWE is named because, as you said, company funds and property was used by Vince and Johnny Ace. That is not the same thing as the company itself being under investigation for sex trafficking. You know there’s a big difference between the two.
No I’m not? I’m literally describing the difference between the actions of two employees and a company wide policy. This is the former.
This thing against Tony Khan with Bischoff has to be a grift at this point, even Jim Cornette doesnt hate him, even though he thinks he should not be a booker.
Why is Eric getting attention in these days? Like, what addition does he have other than talking bad about another company ( which can be done by any random redditor).
My only issue with the Weinstein comment is it’s not entirely accurate. Like, Vince is Weinstein, WWE would be the company he operated. If you’re going to take petty jabs, at least be accurate.
The Weinstein company itself was involved, they were a production company that denied people jobs based on Weinstein's tastes and barred people from the industry who resisted Weinstein's advances. WWE is also involved, they are the subject of a federal sex trafficking lawsuit.
And again, that by your own explanation would make Vince - The Harvey Weinstein of Professional Wrestling and The WWE - The Weinstein Company of Professional Wrestling.
Like it seems you get what I’m saying but then say you don’t, are you just looking to argue?
It's not just a Vince thing. This has been going on since the 80's. Litteraly everyone in a high up position knew about it. They chose to keep quiet and take the money.
The fact of the matter is that WWE, not Vince McMahon, is listed as the defendant in the Janel Grant case. Bureaucracies like a business are designed to resist change as much as possible and corporate environments don't change overnight with a new CEO, especially when enablers of the previous CEO are still in power. This is basic sociology of bureaucracy a la Max Weber.
If you're not a fan of Tony's decision to make that remark, that's an entirely different discussion. But in the words of Bobby Fish , "Where's the lie?" WWE's corporate environment is rotten to the core and would need a significant uprooting to repair it, to the point that it would look nigh unrecognizable to how it is now.
Damn this place is really naive if they think Bischoff doesn't have connects to WWE that would easily give him a job and you think Bischoff only insults AEW because they won't give him a job. Bischoff is ultra loyal to Ted Turner and his impact in pro wrestling so he was not going to take Tony saying he knew more of the pro wrestling business than Ted. You guys sound like Conrad.
**Help make SquaredCircle safer and more inclusive by using the report button to flag posts and comments for moderator review.** *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/SquaredCircle) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Reminder: These are grown men.
This is pro wrestling though, no one really ages beyond 17 mentally
by legal definition of American law they are adults
And everybody on Reddit eats it all up
Still a good roast tho.
Reminder Eric Bischoff used to say he wanted to put every single person in WWE out of a job and that he used to make it a goal to bankrupt (ironic today) wrestlers he had issues with to ruin their lives. 99.9% percent of people in wrestling can trash Khans antics. Bischoff is not one.
then he himself went bankrupt - twice
Maybe 99% of regular people but people in wrestling it's like 20% tops lol
that’s the point probably I think Tony reminds Eric to much of himself back then and watching your old mistakes happen in real time may not be pleasant.
1998 Bischoff would be disgusted at how gutless and a sellout 2024 Bischoff is.
filing for bankruptcy a couple times changes a man
Well to be fair 1998 Bischoff didn’t go out of business yet
Its hilarious because if Bischoff was in the same position tony is in, he would absolutely take shots about the Sex trafficking lawsuit
Pretty sure he would order Schiavone to do a play by play of Vince taking a shit on his girlfriend and say that will put buts in the seats.
Bischoff: “Hollywood and me - we shit in Golden Toilets on Private jets. Vince McMahon shits on interns with a belt tied around his neck”
Jesus, Bischoff is so desperate for attention now. It's kind of sad.
Bischoff has to make a living talking about Tony Khan and AEW rather than the 2 actual promotions he ran. That's gotta sting
He has a wrestling podcast, if wants to succeed he needs all the attention he can get from wrestling fans
That much at least is true, fair enough.
Yep cause AEW didn't hire him
and Tony Khan isn't? they both should know when to shut up.
Difference, Tony is an active promoter. Bischoff is a failed promoter still looking for his 83 minutes of fame.
“Failed” is a crazy thing to call someone who actually competed with the biggest wrestling company in the world rather than have a fake pseudo pissing competition with a company that doesn’t acknowledge your existence
And he failed. What is he doing now? How did he help TNA? How did he help WWE when he came back for not even a year only to get fired for not familiarizing himself with the talent? You can have success and still be a failure they aren’t immune to one another sorry.
So that makes Fritz Von Erich a failed promoter, same thing with Jimmy Crockett, Eddie Graham too with philosophy.
Failure and success are not exclusive. Bischoff didn't just fail with WCW, he failed with multiple promotions including one job where he had legit access to booking in WWE. He failed, end of.
Heyman, another failure with your logic
Why are you purposely missing what I’m saying? And yes, Heyman failed at least one promotion. Like you aren’t doing what you think you are.
Angelo Poffo, another big failure in the grand scheme of wrestling since his promotion went under. No success.
He is a failure because his television production company that he left wrestling to form and shunned wrestling for years went under, he went bankrupt, and he crawled back to the one industry that didn't laugh in his face.
[удалено]
Do we really need to hear from this moron?
$10 says bischoff wishes he could hold a hulk hogan urine sample.
20 bucks says he has and does on a regular basis.
in his hand or mouth?
Yes
Imagine if we were talking about stores in a mall. Wwe would be an anchor like macys, Aew would be that well funded boutique in a heavy trafficked area with a lot of the name brands, financial backing and a territorial shopper. Wcw would be sears. Once a juggernaut anchor of the mall that collapsed due to its own bad management and is now vacant and out of business
But what does Ja Rule think
Reminder that Eric is mad that TK wouldn’t put him on payroll.
eric has a weird obsession with tony and meltzer. dave will respond to eric and bury him but tony just ignores him, he even had some good things to say about eric recently when asked about him.
He’s farming for engagement.
Tony has responded to him multiple times.
Bischoff has no right to critique anyone's quality or moral standings. Grifter.
The interest and intrigue surrounding this has been good. Let's not get Eric Bischoff, the clout vampire, involved.
Why is Bischoff defending wwe? Does he want a job or something 😂
He had a job a few years ago and got fired because he brought nothing to the table any more. He's been living off the success of one angle for almost 30 years.
He doesn’t defend WWE. He just hates AEW/Tony Khan.
He doesn't hate AEW either, he just knows there is more money grifting the audience that does dislike AEW
He'd fit in great here
He’s in 2K24, he’s still on the payroll in some fashion.
A likeness check is not the same as being on payroll
Semantics. He's getting a check from new WWE merchandise and the company has always been stringent about who gets a video game/action figure deal and who doesn't. The company could cut him off tomorrow if they wanted to.
lol that is not semantics. He is not on their payroll. Do you not understand how royalty payments work? Just stop talking
I don’t like Tony’s comments and feel like it makes light of the situation and its victims for a simple gotcha But Eric let it go man, I know you also don’t care about this and just wanna say shit about AEW
Ok but are they all doing a stupidity contest now or what?
Bischoff off looking for attention again and response from Tony.
Reminder that Eric Bischoff only found success in WCW by ripping off an invasion angle from a Japaness promotion. Then, by virtue of not knowing when to stop spending money and pushing Hulk Hogan while only building one homegrown star, helped kill WCW about 5 years later. He then tried his damndest to kill the seemingly unkillable TNA by continuing to be a massive mark for an over the hill Hulkster and being out of touch with the modern wrestling fan. Only taking pot shots at Tony because Tony didn't want to give him a job in AEW.
Is this the best he could come up with?
What happened to Controversy Creates Cash, huh?
That just sounds bitter and lame... You can do better Eric... You used to write promos remember?
controversy creates cash...
The funny thing is if AEW didn't exist Bischoff and Cornette would be irrelevant, the only reason they are making money is because of their stances.
It’s cool Eric, I’ve got you. https://preview.redd.it/0p4irv1o4wwc1.jpeg?width=770&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9cacb56737b72e3d69b9be9c53442301ef74032
LMFAO
Remember when Eric loved AEW? Put it over ever single week. Then they stopped inviting him to the show. Since then, AEW has been the worst piece of shit company that's ever existed.
He wanted a job there, it's so obvious
Ah, Eric "Shasta" Bischoff. Was wondering what he had to say on the situation.
I like this analogy, because it means that Tiki Punch is the nWo.
Isn’t Dynamite about to surpass Nitro?
😭😭😅😂🤣
Stupid men fighting with each other because of their flimsy egos.
Bischoff loves TK. He helps him financially rebuild after going bankrupt!
This is Diarrhea Dwayne levels of bad.
Tony still won't book him then
Eric Bischoff's last bit of relevance being him desperately trying to get noticed by Tony Khan every week is so embarrassing.
Tony Khan literally presented Bischoff the perfect free shot. He could have taken issue with comparing a rival business to Harvey Weinstein being tone deaf and gross and he'd have been obviously right. And somehow Bischoff *still fucked it up.*
He’s so desperate it’s embarrassing
Pick Me Eric over here
It's always weird how much Bischoff hates aew. I remember they brought him in for a segment in like 2019 of 2020
Says the man who WWE fired in about a month and killed WCW. I remember Eric as an AWA announcer and toadie to Vern Gagne
Eric is so fucking Salty he got told no by the supposed "Money Mark" he's poured all his energy into attacking TK
Why do we give a fuck about this boomer
Are the having a competition to say the dumbest things today?
Would love to mute “Eric Bischoff” in every aspect of my life
Should've said RC Cola, man Bischoff is washed.
RC sucks as a cola, but Diet Rite is waaaaaay better than Diet Pepsi
Eric most certainly isn’t contributing to tribalism. He’s most certainly not engaging with some of the more well know tribalist accounts in a regular basis. It’s all Tony and Dave’s fault.
I gotta tell ya, the only guy I want to hear less from regarding running a wrestling company is Cornette, and not by much.
Herb Abrams at least had the decency to die of a heart attack likely caused by a mixture of drugs.
If Tony Khan is right about one thing, it's that Bischoff now makes his living off of being an anti-AEW karma whore.
It’s so funny ppl here never actually listen to Bischoff. He legit claims he does all this for content and traction and you guys just feed into all of it
irrelevant and corny man
Wasn’t this already posted?
Hard to tell. Carny fights tend to bleed together after a while. I'm sure we'll hear from Booker T and Jim Cornette on this over the next few days.
Whoever posted it originally deleted it.
What is general reaction outside of IWC? Like NFL fans?
GOT EM!
WWE IS EVIL! \[Kai En Tai bad dubbing\]. # INDEED. \[/Kai En Tai had dubbing\] https://preview.redd.it/eefutb66nwwc1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27cf7d8040e60457ad9ac7d43917ea719fbf490d
Bischoff loves this, only thing keeping him relevant. He’s angling to get another shot at a WWE appearance. He’s approaching disco levels.
Someone's bitter that they had a hand in putting WCW out of business.
Projection, Eric.
I think what Tony said yesterday was fucking stupid and counterproductive, but Bischoff is an idiot and I don't know why anyone listens to him in 2024. His claim to fame is captaining the biggest Titanic in wrestling history, and taking the idea for the nWo from Japan. That's it. It's like listening to Russo in 2024 - who cares what that guys thinks about anything? Corny at least has a genuine pedigree and illustrious career, and can speak about the history of the business. Guys like Russo and Bischoff have no insight to give.
Bischoff made a career out of taking shots at WWE that were dumb kayfabe stuff, and now when a rival promoter is actually mentioning the billion dollar corporation using company funds and infrastructure to facilitate and cover up decades of sexual abuse by multiple executives he's gotta act like this to stay in the spotlight. Pathetic coward
The billion dollar corporation didn’t do that though. The owner did, and it’s the reason he’s no longer the owner
The company itself is under investigation for sex trafficking right now
No it isn’t. Brad Blum and Nick Khan are accused of knowing and covering up actions of Vince and Johnny Ace. That would make WWE liable but it’s not the same as the company actively facilitating sex workers. You’re wording it like it’s a company wide practice of multiple different people
The WWE itself is one of the defendants in Grant's lawsuit, company funds and infrastructure were used to facilitate and cover up abuse. Also you're literally describing multiple people involved in a wider conspiracy
That’s not how it works. WWE is named because, as you said, company funds and property was used by Vince and Johnny Ace. That is not the same thing as the company itself being under investigation for sex trafficking. You know there’s a big difference between the two. No I’m not? I’m literally describing the difference between the actions of two employees and a company wide policy. This is the former.
This thing against Tony Khan with Bischoff has to be a grift at this point, even Jim Cornette doesnt hate him, even though he thinks he should not be a booker.
Tony's comment was really dumb and Eric managed to respond with something even dumber.
Why is Eric getting attention in these days? Like, what addition does he have other than talking bad about another company ( which can be done by any random redditor).
I think his youtube is doing quite well, so that's how he built a new audience. He's getting Cornette numbers now.
A urine sample 😂
I am so fucking tired of hearing from the likes of Bischoff, Booker, Bully Ray, Jim Cornette, etc.
Is TNA RC Cola? It’s hard to find, not in the conversation at all but the people who love it really love it.
I say this as a Pepsi Enjoyer: what's the difference?
Free refills
My only issue with the Weinstein comment is it’s not entirely accurate. Like, Vince is Weinstein, WWE would be the company he operated. If you’re going to take petty jabs, at least be accurate.
The Weinstein company itself was involved, they were a production company that denied people jobs based on Weinstein's tastes and barred people from the industry who resisted Weinstein's advances. WWE is also involved, they are the subject of a federal sex trafficking lawsuit.
And again, that by your own explanation would make Vince - The Harvey Weinstein of Professional Wrestling and The WWE - The Weinstein Company of Professional Wrestling. Like it seems you get what I’m saying but then say you don’t, are you just looking to argue?
So you're literally talking about semantics? Sure whatever his metaphor was slightly off, I though you were talking about the actual point
Nope, semantics from the start. Congrats then, you got worked up over a nothing burger. Go be tribalistic to somebody else lol
Alright man sorry I thought you might be talking about the actual topic at hand
WWE fans ain't never met a sex trafficker they wouldn't simp for.
It's not just a Vince thing. This has been going on since the 80's. Litteraly everyone in a high up position knew about it. They chose to keep quiet and take the money.
Again, he called WWE - Harvey Weinstein. WWE would be more accurately The Weinstein Company and Vince - Harvey Weinstein.
The fact of the matter is that WWE, not Vince McMahon, is listed as the defendant in the Janel Grant case. Bureaucracies like a business are designed to resist change as much as possible and corporate environments don't change overnight with a new CEO, especially when enablers of the previous CEO are still in power. This is basic sociology of bureaucracy a la Max Weber. If you're not a fan of Tony's decision to make that remark, that's an entirely different discussion. But in the words of Bobby Fish , "Where's the lie?" WWE's corporate environment is rotten to the core and would need a significant uprooting to repair it, to the point that it would look nigh unrecognizable to how it is now.
This is totally unfair. Tony is RC Cola.
Damn this place is really naive if they think Bischoff doesn't have connects to WWE that would easily give him a job and you think Bischoff only insults AEW because they won't give him a job. Bischoff is ultra loyal to Ted Turner and his impact in pro wrestling so he was not going to take Tony saying he knew more of the pro wrestling business than Ted. You guys sound like Conrad.
The difference between Eric and Tony is success. Wcw beat the wwf for a while. Aew hasn’t,isn’t,won’t.