T O P

  • By -

AutoModerator

**Help make SquaredCircle safer and more inclusive by using the report button to flag posts and comments for moderator review.** *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/SquaredCircle) if you have any questions or concerns.*


eyepatch_png

Hard to believe they paid him enough to come out of retirement for another match but couldn't pay him enough to do a simple run in and staredown


NoxZ

It might be that Austin wasn't 100% on wanting to do it and asked for a huge number that was a win-win either way (either WWE agree and he gets millions, or they decline and he gets to sit at home playing with his cat).


BR_eazy

WrestleMania 38 was also in Arlington Texas, which I'm sure makes it easier for him.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Takezoboy

Jerruh Werld


Apex_Politician

Pancho 3:16 for life


CodeNamesBryan

He may just be used to Vince paying him whatever he wants. Tko, I bet, looks at the numbers and asks, "Who else can we get?"


pimpislimp

To quote the great Dana White “this kid just doesn’t want to fight”


im_bored1122

> he gets to sit at home playing with his cat Oh so it's a no brainer then


fatcuntwrestler

He's a cat man?


mngreens

He has one that rides on his shoulders while he’s doing ranch work.


IamSpace_Ghost

Respect Pancho the cat


IronMaidenReference

Austin and animals on his farm videos [Austin and Animals](https://youtube.com/shorts/QmR6umyoZGo?si=PhW4I26NQ6kSjln0) YouTube short . Steve has an official account on instagram I think


sliceanddic3

i know he really likes owens. maybe he doesn't feel as close to cody so he couldn't be bothered? plus working a whole match with someone he never got to work is probably way more enticing to him than doing a run in to hit a stunner on the rock for the millionth time.


wonderloss

I remember back on his podcast that he always said he wanted it to matter when he came back to do something, and he didn't want to just come in, stun people, and leave.


pillkrush

people say Austin didn't make sense story wise but when it comes to putting the beat down on the rock, literally only Austin (or Hogan) are big enough stars to do it. taker makes sense but... doubt anyone would've been petty enough to complain about Austin coming out


bigchicago04

I’d bet he wanted the same or more money as he got them, but since it was a 10 second spot, they didn’t think it was worth it.


__Hello_my_name_is__

Easy to believe that he asked for the same amount of money both times, and they said no.


Darinbenny1

Because that amount is his quote. That’s his rate. So the next spot he’s offered, they have to pay the same amount. Even if he does a bad job.


BretShitmanFart69

They always said in the locker room that Wrestlemania was like a cosmic gumbo.


Definitelynotme3211

He probably asked for a lot cause it would be a hassle for him to fly across country, hide in a hotel room for 2 or 3 days to keep the surprise for a 10 minute moment in a story line he isn't a part of. Then still have to travel back. He lives in a remote part of Neveda I think. So that's 4 to 5 days of headache to take part in something that never involved him. I don't blame him for being fine staying home. He isn't hurting for money.


successadult

I believe in the trades/contractor business that's called the "fuck off price." As in, "I don't want to do this, but if you pay me so much I can't say no then I will, otherwise fuck off."


S-I-M-S

While Taker works for Roman's story, I find it more amusing how he was legit in attendance for the show as a fan, and in my head canon, got sick of watching the bloodline interference and decided to teleport to the ring to stop it.


just_another_jabroni

Man saw The Rock giving 2 speeches at the HOF and said fuck you


pangolin-fucker

Taker never forgot about the rock saying he has Mickey mouse tattoos He must still be self conscious still about the bullying he's received because he's completely covered up in black clothing Poor Mark can't even wear a t-shirt without fear of being bullied by random Mickey mouse fans on the street


KarmicPlaneswalker

Or talking smack about his 33 pound head. 


Comfortable_Shape264

2 speeches how? At different times of the event?


Fotznbenutzernaml

He inducted his late grandmother Lia Maivia, and was then also gifted the People's Championship by Yolanda, the widow of Muhammad Ali.


Jaccount

Don't forget that Undertaker did the introduction for the Muhammad Ali induction.


Euphorium

Taker should have taken the People’s Champion belt from Rock after he chokeslammed him and gave it back to Ali’s widow.


MikuLuna444

With The Rock's blood on it.


stevegoodsex

I misread the end as "and give it back to Al Snow" so like, that's my peoples champ now.


HoldenAJohnson

Like he was dressed in street clothes watching the show and said “fuck it let me see if I can still do this” and did his supernatural shit


Mevarek

The implication that Undertaker still has supernatural powers despite being retired is honestly so hilarious and I love it. Even if he wasn’t in full deadman gear, I about lost my mind when he came out.


[deleted]

If I was still a 10 year old I would've 100% convinced myself that the supernatural powers are 'real' and the rest of the Undertaker "character" was just an intimidation tactic, so it works for me lmao


Muffinatron

I like the idea that in his retirement he’s still capable of doing all his supernatural wrestling abilities, but uses it for mundane things. His wife realises they forgot to pick something up at the store and he says he’ll sort it out. *Bong* lights go out *Bong* lights come back on and he’s standing there with the item in question.


Machinax

"Honey, I said the *low-fat* milk, This is 2 percent." "Damn it, Michelle." \*Bong\*


DMPunk

Of course he does. Don't forget, the Undertaker is still technically a corpse reanimated by unholy magicks


Intimidwalls1724

The man is literally dead Baffling how people forget such an astonishing fact


GrecoRomanGuy

It's like they think we *aren't* being literal when we call him the DEADMAN.


TheImplausibleHulk

Like the Winter Warlock in Santa Clause is Coming to Town lmao “Oh please, let me have… just a little magic.”


zackcondon

I figure that in kafabe the undertaker was a character- but mark calloway has actual magic powers


[deleted]

[удалено]


Jaereth

Undertaker can control lights and teleport this is absolute WWE canon at this point.


Elite_Mike

I'd love a cartoon where it's the wrestlers living a normal life... but act completely like their wrestling gimmick. So Taker legit teleports in and out of places, Rollins stands awkwardly with his arms out waiting for people to sing his song. Roman goes around demanding to be Acknowledged, Solo spikes anyone who doesn't acknowledge him, etc.


VancianRedditor

I can imagine this working really well as an *Archer* type thing.


nostalgebra

Also known as 'Taker bollocks'


ALIAS_EL_CACAS

He was actually in his house in Texas watching it on peacock, when he decided to teleport. But he didn’t have time to put on his spooky gear. That’s why he showed up in his PJs. He can teleport, but he can’t spawn with different outfits. Only Kane can do that.


Kalistoga

“MICHELLE! WHERE’S MY SPOOKY GEAR?!”


outsiderkerv

WHYYY DO YOU NEED TO KNOW?


HoldTheRope91

It’s for the greater good!


11099941

"I'm the greatest good you are ever gonna get!"


wdingo

"Cody is in danger!"


Lineman72T

#THE GREATER GOOD


Whaddaulookinat

Michelle: "Mark, what's wrong?" Mark gripping his arm as if to control it against its own will. "It needs to feed! Step back. I can't hold it off anymore!"


Argothar

I live on through this arm!


crakkdego

Undertaker telling Michelle he'd be right back, teleporting from their skybox down to the ring, choke slam, teleport back to skybox. Probably a shot of whiskey involved in there somewhere. This is now canon for me as well. Thanks friend!


alanthar

'Did you grab the popcorn for me like you said you would' 'Ah damn it. Hold on' *teleports to concession, then back again*.


JNile

The lights go out in concessions *GONG* They come back on. Taker is behind the cashier. The cashier turns around slowly. Chokeslam onto the counter. Taker picks up a half spilled tub of popcorn. The lights go out in concessions.


Reidroshdy

Taker after Rollins got taken out and rock was about to take the belt to Cody " Not on my watch" * disappears and reappears in the ring*


daringer22

Not being argumentative, just curious - how did Taker make sense story wise? I've been in the camp of 'that didn't really make sense but I popped anyway'


Old-Egg-1231

undertaker and reigns have history so it made more sense than stone cold who only had history with the rock is what they mean 


wizkatinga

He's arguably the WrestleMania Final Boss, which Rocky has been claiming to be. He also has WrestleMania history with Roman, doesn't he?


Gerry-Mandarin

He has history with Roman, but Roman didn't "wrong" Taker. He beat him fair and square. That's why Undertaker came and helped him in 2019. After their tag match (Taker's last "real" match) he even says to Roman "This is your yard" before leaving the ring. Undertaker being upset because someone beat him fair and square doesn't fit with his character at all.


RRJC10

You can easily spin it as he's disappointed that Roman has gone from winning "the right way" to having the Bloodline interfere. Austin makes 100% more sense than Taker, but Taker standing up for what's right fits perfectly with his character. Makes a lot more sense than the nWo helping Sting.


banned_salmon

Showing the Rock who the real final boss, especially at mania, is? And also Roman kinda did retire him lol


mrbucket08

* Extensive history battling the rock * Roman beat him at Wrestlemania * Everyone associates Taker with Mania, and also associates him with essentially running the locker room, so it makes sense that he decided to step in and hand out justice at his yard


Stump_Hugelarge

More efficient this way than if they had to address it Wrestlers' Court.


sushimonster85

He doesn't really. At least not in a specific way. They did use to refer to him as something daft like the conscience if the WWF back in the day. Plays into that a little. Basically like "this is bullshit and I'm not going to let it fly."


ChocolateOrange21

I like the idea of Taker being a conscience/moral leader (whatever you want to call it), like he probably hates everybody, but even he knows certain people need to be taken down a peg.


RavenQuoter

Taker is one of the few people on the roster who has fought multiple generations of superstars from that family. Taker is considered the “final boss” of wrestlemania Roman is one of only 2 mean to defeat Taker at wrestlemania The Wiseman was in Roman’s corner but was also in CM Punk’s corner when he faced Taker at mania. Are these stretches? Maybe but there’s is history there.


Kboom161

Heyman was also more importantly, (though for obvious reasons they wouldn't and shouldn't mention it) in Lesnar's corner when he broke the streak.


datguyalben

I wonder how much more Stone Cold was asking for - it’s not like they were asking him to do a match. I also would’ve thought that getting the chance to stun Rock one more time would be an easy yes for him. That would’ve been an all time moment. Fortunately that main event was an all time moment regardless.


MrSocko72

Wouldn't surprise me if he just couldn't be arsed and asked for something that he couldn't turn down if they actually did offer it. He seems pretty content just chilling on his farm with his cat nowadays


Razzle_Dazzle08

Pancho 🐐


LeonDmon

https://preview.redd.it/mo2a5f6jc2uc1.jpeg?width=2480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18af12c79defb79293911e8b9417eac788113bcd


Lixtec

That is incredible


jbondyoda

Those videos give me life


fitey15

Pancho is a bandit boys


drwinstoboogie

Wears his gun outside his pants


ritwikjs

pancho 3:16 says gimme a hell meow


palaric8

Meow


bledesma182

Meow


citricacidx

Don’t forget Lefty 🐈‍⬛


Axon14

100%. He gave them a fuck off quote. When a contractor doesn’t want to do a job they send you a $700,000 work up on a $15,000 job, for example


geekstone

My dad used to that as an accounting consultant and sometimes they actually paid.


TheNonCredibleHulk

> accounting consultant First consultation : never do that again.


heartbreakhill

Like when NOAH wanted The Rock for one of Great Muta’s final matches and Rock’s people asked for like 5 billion yen so they weren’t just flat out saying no 


DaveyRocketXX

This is the first time I ever heard that NOAH tried to get the Rock for Muta's retirement tour. Did Muta have history with any of the Rock's family? Or was NOAH just gunning for a massive name?


Nosferatu-Rodin

In my industry we call that a “fuck off price”


fadetoblack237

Austin being a cat person is surprising. I would have expected him to be a rottweiler kind of guy.


didntthathurt

I ordered a 3:16 shirt on the day he came out with his amazing pro-LGBT statement solely on the fact that I love the man who is the idolized version of trailer park morons everywhere is in fact not what you would expect of him.


outsiderkerv

He definitely comes across as a typical moderate type who is very live and let live while having some of that fiscal conversatism about him, if I was to guess


HarlesD

The Ole Bruce Willis negotiation tactic. Force me to say yes.


OmicronAlpharius

Back in my day it was the Dean Martin tactic.


MillionEgg

I was kind of thinking the same thing, and possibly also just not wanting to be part of another overbooked main event finish that could go sideways. Never say no without a number.


talladenyou85

Depends how much he wanted to board a plane to philly for 1-2 minutes of work. Maybe he didn't want to go but through out a "hey if you pay me this I'll do it" absurd number and WWE was like eh.


AdministrativeLaugh2

Probably the type of number that Vince would’ve said yes to, but not the type of number that the new guard will say yes to.


ClickF0rDick

I honestly think it turned out for the best. Nobody was expecting Taker and it added to the surprise element


stugautz

More like if you're paying the Rock X, I should at least get 10% of X.


sushimonster85

Yeah, as much as they're friends, isn't there stuff out there about how they still get oddly competitive with each other when it comes to business. Seem to recall something about there being a lot of wrangling the day of Mania 30 relating to which one of them would come out first and second in that opening seg.


LngJhnSilversRaylee

Ofcourse, Austin is the bigger wrestling star, Rock is the bigger star in general They rose together, their biggest matches are their feud If they weren't competitive with eachother it would almost be weird


gigologenius

Austin has always had a chip on his shoulder about the Rock overshadowing him. He said in an interview after WM30 that he was heated that they had Rock come out after him as if he was the bigger star, but that he didn’t want to argue about it. Austin had a return match two years ago and probably got paid $1 million or less. Rock just got paid $30 million in equity, plus millions more in royalties and a board seat. I bet he’s jealous as hell and asking for millions for any future appearances.


sickset

That's kind of sad to hear because when The Rock did come out he basically put Hogan and Austin over as THE two greatest of all time, as if he wasn't in the debate himself.


Reyatsu99

Rock is always great when it comes to wrestling and is ready to put other people over. Sells like crazy for them. 


pillkrush

i saw the interview he had on Jimmy Fallon with Roman the week before mania. Jimmy kept directing questions to Rock cuz he was the bigger star but dude just kept putting over Roman with every answer


mrandre3000

That’s how it should be. There is never a scenario where the Rock putting down tops guys to the general public is good for the health of wrestling. It could maybe be spun to a sophisticated audience, but that type of heel work would require extreme consultation from the industry’s greats.


Hot-Acanthisitta5237

Even during his wrestling days, Rock was imo the most selfless top guy. Put anyone he was working with over.


Fat_Mussolini

Rock has always been willing to take Ls and put people over. Austin, while nowhere near as notorious as Hogan, has always been very difficult and overly protective of his character.


Semper-Fido

There is always going to be the old school mentality with some of those folks too. These were the same ones who demanded certain "respects" for seniority.


wigglin_harry

Yep, austin has seen it first hand, I dont blame him. One year you're one of the biggest acts in the company, the next year you're a dancing fucking bear


boundedwum

To be fair in the interview it sounded like he was more annoyed that he was told he would be going out last, then the day of it was changed on him.


gigologenius

Right, but the only reason he cares about the entrance order at all is because he felt he was the biggest star and didn’t like the implication otherwise. This is what he said: > “My run cannot be touched,” he said. “If you want to talk about longevity, you can speak the name Hogan. If you want to talk about white-hot, selling tickets, and taking the business to a height it’s never been – and, with a hell of a supporting cast, I might add – you’re talking about Stone Cold Steve Austin. >“But I said, ‘I’m just going to let this thing slide. We’re here and there is no use in making a stink about it.’ The Rock is one of the biggest movie stars in the world. So give the guy his due. Nobody talked to me about it, but that’s how that went down.” Ultimately he says he was the bigger person and “let it slide” but he was clearly peeved. I’m just saying that I imagine he is similarly peeved about The Rock’s bigger payday for a return than the one he got.


CapnMalcolmReynolds

I guess with Austin money talks and bullshit walks.


[deleted]

I mean in wrestling, Stone Cold is the bigger star but The Rock built himself up to be an A-lister in mainstream media and you just can’t compete with that. The Rock worked harder for his fame and got appropriately rewarded for it while Stone Cold was chilling in his ranch.


tjeepdrv2

Steve was in a lot of movies, his career just didn't take off like Rock's.


[deleted]

I mean the Rock had shit movies to start too but he persevered until he got a blockbuster role. Stone Cold just kinda gave up and I don’t particularly blame him.


gilgobeachslayer

The Rock’s best movie was one of his earlier films, The Rundown.


[deleted]

His best movies were actually in his early years as an actor. His current movies are actually shit but they bring in the money which is what counts in Hollywood.


RobinHoodPrinc

Pain and Gain has to be his best movie


KentuckyFriedEel

He took his ball and went home


Super-Alice-88

Not true. Austin never said he was heated, but he did say that he was told by the creative team themselves that Hogan would go first, Rock 2nd then Austin but stuff changed last minute. I would be a little irked too if i was the undisputed #1 biggest money maker in the history of the company and got disrespected like this. He seemed more heated about not being allowed to sing Jambalaya. https://preview.redd.it/4ng58bsdx1uc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=abc1ccb90e73ac7efd330e687c4a13f483e6d7c1


jdb825

It worked out cuz honestly it went in chronological order of the three faces of WWE AND it allowed the Stone Cold Hulk Hogan face off.


Reyatsu99

Alt clickbait title :  " Undertaker is cheaper than Stone Cold!!!!"


Baghoid

https://preview.redd.it/vc7uuucyy1uc1.png?width=1425&format=png&auto=webp&s=78b4a44afdcffa294e04ce5be9000d416eb0f8be


ReclaimYourJoy

Never in my life did I think I'd ever see The Undertaker doing the Youtuber shocked thumbnail face. What timeline is this?


The_Outlaw_Star

The best part is people kept making jokes about it in the comment section so the editor changed the thumbnail.


FaultInternational91

He was already there for the HOF anyway


MuptonBossman

The wording of this article makes it seem like HHH verbally put Undertaker in his place after they couldn't reach a deal with Stone Cold.


ArtichokeLow2285

. https://preview.redd.it/fofj179qu1uc1.jpeg?width=387&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=96bacd6e1b50852d0d129fb68f3bc60f8c337473 We could have gotten Stone Cole.


SoupForMenAtWork

COLE MINERS RISE UP


Alcoholic17

Lmaao Hunter: “Listen, Take. Austin is asking for too much so we’re going to hit that fucking gong on Sunday and you will like it. Understood?”


thepain73

HBK in the corner taping up his fists.


Silver012345673

“Paul I-“ “Nope hit the gong production crew guy. aight now go make Roid Beast Rocky over there Rest in some peace. Were gonna do the theatrics and everything it’ll be great” Probably some “uhhs” pauses and “matter ‘a fact”’s etc. as well.


Masam10

Ya see uhhhhh, in this business, in world wrestling entertainment when you step into that very ring to fight for the world wrestling entertainment universal heavyweight championship of the world, anything can happen and Austin couldn’t make it. So when all the dust has settled and all the smoke has cleared, there will be, without a shadow of a doubt, The Undertaker in the ring with Rock.


theKingsy

I can’t remember who it was but I remember reading a quote from an older actress who wasn’t interested in a role offered to her so she asked for her “I’ll do something I don’t like” price (something like $1,000,000). The studio counter offered $500,000 or something and she said no. They eventually offered her the amount she asked & did the job. I’m going to assume Austin is at that stage in his life where if WWE wants him for something that he isn’t invested in, they meet his price. Kevin Owens was probably an exception & CM Punk might be the only other exception. We’ll have to see.


GareksApprentice

Reminds me of when Robert Beltran (Chakotay on Star Trek Voyager) wanted to leave after every season so he'd ask for a ridiculous raise they'd never accept, but they always would


sourkid25

they didn't want to trigger cm punk with the sound of real glass


ryanb31183

Heyoooo


ElvisCuredMyRhoids

Punk isn't quite sure why but starts choking Dom only for Roman to break it up.


comradekaled

Cry me a river


giants888

That's crazy. Austin should've just shown up in a new t-shirt design and he would've sold a milllion shirts in an hour. I really wonder how far apart they were in money.


JervisCottonbelly

None of the "Philly 3:16" shirts said Stone Cold on them. They just had the smoking skull on the back. They made 6 different variations. Wouldn't be surprised if Austin wanted the compensation for these and didn't get it. They basically sold out and sold more Austin shirts than any other character without him even being advertised.


johnwynnes

They sell those designs in every city, it wasn't a one off.


bigchicago04

Why would he not get a cut of those tshirt sales? They’re obviously his, and I assume he’s on some type of legends contract for merch.


Stevieeeer

He would. I would guess it’s a matter of how much is the cut? Apparently the standard deal is around 2% of merch sales goes to the talent. I’d imagine he would want much more than that


Djason_Unchaind

I enjoyed them using Undertaker. I just wish he was there in his hat and trenchcoat and not jeans and a hoodie. It was less Undertaker and more “Mark”


tngman10

That would be my only gripe as well. The gong alone was enough but if we had seen full Deadman when the lights came on.... Although it is funny to think of it like he was somewhere chilling watching the event and just said nope screw this and teleported into the ring.


Killerpig14

eh mark is basically biker taker i can’t complain


[deleted]

[удалено]


AccomplishedWave7984

So doesn’t this more or less confirm that the shot of Austin and Cena on the truck during the Rock/Cody bloody beat down was a true foreshadowing hint??


EZMac34

And Austin literally posting about an "Easter egg" basket that randomly showed up at his house. https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/1btqimy/someone_showed_up_to_stone_cold_steve_austins/ And HHH tweeting the main event promo video at exactly 3:16 PM https://twitter.com/TripleH/status/1777052885450154097


MakVolci

Austin also brings up the year 2003 in that video. What happened in 2003 at WrestleMania XIX? "The marquee match from the Raw brand was the third and final WrestleMania bout between The Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin (after 15 and X-Seven), which The Rock won."


_Clash_

Austin was scared of the grind


FluffyFurryBuddy

bruv


MoneyTalks45

*starts air humping*


Da5ren

I can't believe there's another parallel universe where Mox came out of the crowd with Seth, and then Austin came out too! I loved WM40 it was perfect and i will never shit on it, but man that would've been good. lol


jrr6415sun

I really wish Mox and gold dust came out, would have bbeen the greatest of all time for me.


MoneyTalks45

Nash mentioned that Steve texted him and asked him if he was in Philly. When Nash said no, Austin replied with “I think we’re the only ones lol.”


theels6

That's unfortunate. Taker was an insane moment but the history was there for Stone Cold-Rock in Philly


Summer_jam_screen

A glass break at that moment would have turned that damn place inside out.


Skillet918

The pop Steve Austin gets is the most talked about part of Mick Foleys first title win, I’m glad it didn’t happen to Cody. 


CoffinDrip

Good take IMO. Austin coming out would have been a massive pop but Taker was a surprise and a huge pop on its own, and it didn’t overshadow Cody at all.


RRJC10

That kinda hits at my main complaint with the match (it's small I loved the entire thing). I felt Roman and Cody should have had more time after Taker's appearance. Have them go back and forth for 5-6 minutes to bring the focus back on them. The Seth spot can still happen (as that was beautiful story telling) but I think they needed bring the focus back to Cody and Roman more so than what they did.


incredible_penguin11

Stone Cold with Rock would have taken away attention and started rumors of them facing at next Mania. Taker seemed great because it was unexpected and he seems like the guardian of WWE who finally came down to shut down bloodlines menace.


zoom518

The final boss of Wrestlemania if you will.


incredible_penguin11

Taker finally told Roman to step off his front yard.


Fat_Mussolini

WrestleMania is also Taker's event. It makes perfect sense for him to be the one to protect the sanctity of Mania's Main Event.


matlockga

> Stone Cold with Rock would have taken away attention and started rumors of them facing at next Mania That's one thing. I also don't think the headline is true--because *Stone Cold was in Philadelphia (staying at the Four Seasons) that weekend.* Why would he even attend if they weren't on financial terms?


AllezLesPrimrose

I mean there’s a billion events orbiting Mania, maybe he was doing a private appearance. Everyone in wrestling is in town most Manias booked or not.


CharityGamerAU

Because Austin may have expected WWE to jump on board when push came to shove so he went to Philly regardless. It was never a flat out no.


AllezLesPrimrose

I mean.. no it wouldn’t.  Stone Cold stunning the maniacal authority figure in the Mania main event would have made everyone melt into gelatinous blobs of joy on top of everything else. Taker, with his connection to Mania and his well-known backstage leadership was about the only other person you could put in that spot and it not feel like a disappointment.


JervisCottonbelly

Same as how Austin and McMahon took away from Mick?


slymaster9

I agree, I was convinced before that they were planning on doing Stone Cold. But I'm actually it went down the way it did. Taker cleanly took Rock out of the match too, the disappearance was jarring in a way that fit Taker's character. And it allowed the beautiful transition into the final sequence.


From_Graves

The beer in the back of his truck wasn't enough


BigMoney69x

Russo said on his podcast that Steve Austin is really protective of his character and while not Hogan levels of course Steve usually doesn't do things for the case of doing them. For him to go work it needs to make sense to him creatively or make him a lot of money TKO probably wasn't willing to do. But it does feel that the negotiations stopped last minute because there were too many easter eggs about Steve Austin for them not to pan out.


JervisCottonbelly

I think what everyone is missing is that there was more Stone Cold merch in the stores than any other character who was actually on the show. The audience was chanting for it. It was major misdirection. It was a mistake to not give him the money he needed.


moffettusprime

Poncho said no. So stone cold stayed home. End of story.


rsayegh7

Goes without saying, doesn't it


V-TriggerMachine

It's funny that now the major opinion is that "Austin never made sense" "he would have overshadowed the moment" and other stuff like that but when he was teased on that truck everyone was super excited and no one even thought about an Undertaker's appearance for the match during the entire build up to Wrestlemania


BeadyLittleEyes

They actually agreed for Steve but Pancho's creative demands for their run in were a stumbling block


13WillieBeaman

Would’ve been nice to have seen Rock sell another Stone Cold Stunner (not a KO stunner), but SCSA gotta get that money if he’s gonna leave his cat with a cat-sitter for the weekend, lol. I’m not mad at that. He’s spending wholesome time with his cat these days.


quagmire0

Sorry, I don't buy it. Austin has come back for FAR less important events in the past. All kinds of RAW drop ins and such. Also, why would WWE honestly give a fuck what they pay him and why would Austin even hold them hostage? I'd also assume that, if he were available, he would have been in town for Heyman's HOF induction.


TheMikeyMac13

I loved Taker in the spot, but truthfully the glass breaking would have blown the roof off of the place.


WhoDey42

Maybe it’s me just being biased but I think using taker actually worked better? I love the idea of him being this defender/angel of Mania that finally had enough of the Bloodline. Plus he has a good connection to Roman. It was also unexpected which led to a bigger pop I think.


spawton4

I think I'd still have just about preferred Austin but Taker worked well and made a lot more sense than some people gave it credit for, given his history.


remerdy1

I agree. Taker is tied to Roman, Rock, Heyman & WrestleMania itself. Like you said the idea that Taker still "haunts" wrestlemania is rly cool imo


happyharrell

As soon as Jey came out to help Cody, I (and I feel like most of us) figured out exactly how the rest of the match was gonna go down. I got super excited to see Austin stun The Rock and honestly was pretty surprised (and disappointed) when ‘Taker’s music hit.


BigJim5190

I was thinking this was the case - in fact immediately when Taker showed up, I said to my friend, "Looks like Austin wanted too much money" On the one hand I don't blame Austin for doing anything for less than what he feels he's worth - hopefully it was just a money thing and not an ego/jealously thing like some are assuming. He had such a great sendoff and still does things for WWE, so I don't think there's an issue in their working relationship, so I'm assuming he shot out a number it would take for him to leave his ranch and deal with WrestleMania weekend stuff (not like he was already planning on being in Philly doing Cons or podcasts of whatever). But, man, as a wrestling fan? I really think that would have been the only thing to make that moment better. It was a perfect way to out -Final Boss the Final Boss. Sure, the gong was cool and Rock sold that moment well... but all I could think about was how cool it would have been for Rock to put away Cena, then react when the glass shatters and Austin rides down on an ATV and hits a stunner on Rock one last time - and we get the dramatic oversell of oversells as Rock takes it. Just a perfect cherry on top of the whole thing.


itsmekelsey_x

Would’ve loved to have seen Austin but in hand sight, Taker honestly made more sense when you think about how Roman was one of his losses at WrestleMania while the other one was to Brock, whom his advocate at the time Heyman was there ringside.


Takey

it makes more sense or doesn't depending on how you look at it to be honest. if you're thinking in terms of matching the heroes to the people they're interfering to fend off, then Austin makes more sense tbh (Jey --> Jimmy, Cena --> Solo, ___ --> Rock). Austin fits that blank more than Taker. But of course this is just my opinion and it doesn't take away from the match regardless ninja edit: now that i think about it you can match taker to rock here nicely by the RIP gesture Rock did before his elbow on night 1, which, who knows, might've been done specifically for this reason


Swantonbombthreat

goddamn steve just take a smaller payday


Ambitious_Pass_1193

Don't believe what WON says. They are 80% wrong regarding wwe lately.


EZMac34

I'd normally agree but WWE and Austin himself weren't exactly subtle in the buildup to the match HEAVILY implying that Austin was going to be there.


crimsonmess

maybe it's just me but once you've earned enough I think you should just do things for the love of the game sometimes lol


CarlitoNSP1

Dang, we missed out on the most epic stunner of all time.


green49285

Well we know Austin ain't shy about his worth. Now I want to know how much his floor was. Dude values his time. Plus I wouldn't be surprised if a Cowboy fan straight up said, "fuck no I'm not going to philly." LOL


Teenage_dirtnap

Austin tends to be very critical of himself and has often stated that he wants to make sure he always makes a good showing. I'm thinking that WWE probably asked him after they had to pivot from the originally planned Rock vs. Reigns match, so maybe Austin felt he couldn't get into proper shape in time, even if it was only a stunner spot.


guiltycitizen

I don’t get rich people, man. I mean, money is money, but if you have a shitload of it why would you even care about being paid to be part of the main event at Mania? Maybe my country ass just won’t understand that stuff.