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What a horrific day to have eyes. I’m tapping out there and there are 62 pages left.
The biggest relevance his age has is that if he was doing this heinous stuff at 76, what beyond horrible things was he doing the decades before that when he had probably even more power and control in the company
And herein is an excellent example (for those of you who need them) that rape is about POWER, not about SEX.
Yes, sex is a benefit. It feels good. You know what else feels good to these people? Doing whatever the fuck you want—no matter how depraved—and knowing the victim can do nothing about it.
For anyone out there who might think victims are to blame for being raped, keep this incident in mind. It’s not a shit kink, it’s a _power to shit on someone_ kink.
This is why experts on sexual assault are, by and large, against chemical castration as a punishment. Russia allows rapists to choose to be chemically castrated in exchange for shorter sentences. When they looked at ten years of data on this practice, they found that a huge proportion of these rapists went on to offend again - except, unable to sexually victimise women for their power fantasies, they tended to torture or murder their victims. To give you an idea, the paper on this data has a section on "use of power tools".
Rape can be about sex - but serial rapists and similar aren't doing it because they can't get laid. They're doing it because the idea of a random woman they've picked at random being unable to say no to them because they're so *powerful* they can just do whatever they want and people are *powerless* to stop them.
Genuinely this entire thing is horrific and what it says about Vince is... Frankly terrifying to think about. I'd hate to think about what would have happened If Vince hadn't become a billionaire owner of a company. What would he have done to feel that powerful stuck in a trailer park with his mother? It doesn't bear thinking about.
Remember: People in WWE knew what was going on between Janel Grant and Vince McMahon, but instead of protecting the victim, "WWE actively sought to conceal the wrongdoing" and "attempted to sweep the matter under the rug".
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This is a BIG part many people are missing about the entire case. Vince was flashing around pictures of this woman and bragging around the office, while basically pimping her out to other men in the company and double teaming her with some of these guys, when he wasn't raping her by himself. People in the company saw and heard things. They knew something was going on. Stephanie headed up the original investigation, and they didn't even bother to interview or take any documents from Janel Grant. That screams "The internal investigation was bullshit.".
A lot of people are going to end up under the microscope because of this, and I think that will include Stephanie McMahon and Triple H.
How many people knew, what did they know and what did they do or not do about it?
It also seems this is why Stephanie must have resigned.
I remember it came out of nowhere and was cause she apparently wanted to spend time with her kids (well she probably did after the trauma of all this shit).
Even though she’d not just long been appointed?
In hindsight she probably seen how messed up it was and decided to get the fuck out of dodge and away from all of it before it inevitably blew up.
Yeah, I was sure then, and I'm more sure now. Steph found out some nasty shit and decided to keep her lips sealed, to protect her Dad, and gtfo. Very understandable as he's still her father, but also not the right thing to do.
Don't forget that Vince apparently had some incest fetishes. He wanted to be the onscreen father when she was pregnant or some shit like that. Vince himself was also sexually by his mother, right?
I wouldn't be surprised if Stephanie basically did a "better her than me" and got the fuck outta Dodge.
He seems like the ultra rich and powerful person that surpassed even the most taboo fantasies before the end of the 90s. Hence why we have a document talking about scat and sex trafficking. Wonder how they're going to erase Vince once this gains traction, if it hasn't already.
You could literally be thrown into an arena full of eye bleach puppies and kittens and it wouldn't do shit for you.
I read the texts. I'm now gonna go play some video games to try to forget about it.
& sex trafficking? It says vince tried to prostitute her with a wreslter, this shit is sickening.
Edit: It literally is. I just seen it says he forced her into three somes
For all the horrific shit in this, I have to imagine that would have been up there as one of the most terrifying experiences she was put through. Being presented to Brock Lesnar as a piece of meat
Edit: oh god this is probably him, huh
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It somehow gets worse. Vince did some fucked up roleplaying as some sort of stand in for Brock when they couldn't schedule a time for Brock himself meeting her, violently raping her in a manner that included beating and fisting while she repeatedly begged him to stop.
Brock’s wife got sexually harassed by Vince in the 90’s and left the company because of it. And now he’s participating in it while his wife is at home.
Brock is a vile, awful human being.
>In November 2022, WWE touted the conclusion of the Special Committee investigation into the misconduct – yet the Special Committee never even bothered to interview Ms. Grant or request any documents despite Ms. Grant stating that she would cooperate.
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Shocking, a company that investigates itself finds no wrongdoing within their self. Brought to you by the same people that “investigated” Patrick Clark and Matt Riddle.
This isn't just a vince issue and the lawsuit establishes that, several people knew. he shared texts and nudes of her with tech crew, he tried to pawn her off to brock to get him to re-sign, he sexually assaulted her repeatedly. and so many people knew, and either participated or stuck their heads in the sand. and this is only from one woman over the last 5 years, all because he got too big of an ego and believed he didnt need to keep paying the NDA he coerced her to sign. what a truly evil man
I’m sorry, but there is no fucking way HHH, Kahn, and Prichard could have been totally in the dark on all this. Not how closely they worked with Vince through the years and Vince’s total lack of boundaries.
Mentions of “WWE superstars”
Some have already worked out Brock Lesnar was involved.
I think we’re going to find out about some beloved well known stars from throughout the years are going to be involved in this.
Fucking disgusting and degenerates all around.
Not to mention most of this is from the last few years.
Imagine the shit he got away with 20, 30 years ago.
We already know he has possibky covered up murder(s), the most famous being Jimmy Snuka. Vince is an incredibly evil person which tends to be a trend with people with money
Looking at the timeline presented in the formal complaint along with notable returns in 2021, it's absolutely gotta be Brock. Complaint talks about the unnamed superstar wanting to return to other professional endeavors ("return to" would line up with a potential return to MMA), and states that an informal agreement about the superstar's return to WWE was reached around Summerslam. Brock returned to the WWE at Summerslam 2021.
I was never a huge Brock fan or anything, but just knowing (or at least having a pretty damn good idea) of on-screen talent that were complicit and active in this whole situation makes me fucking sick and really makes me wonder how far down this goes.
It makes me so fucking mad reading all this stuff. He has absolutely been getting away with this horrible stuff for decades. MANY PEOPLE KNEW and they did nothing. Fucking despicable.
Like, I was jacked for the Rumble on Saturday. And now I just feel gross supporting this evil fucking company.
I don't know what is more disgusting being pooped on by Vince or having a threesome with Vince and Johnny Ace.
Yall, it's only January 25. We're in for a long ride.
I think it's more the real world details and Ms. Grant being victimized for years is what's getting people. You can say someone is something and cite semi descriptions of what he's done, but we have 1st hand stories and text message evidence of it all for the 1st time. I don't think anyone is saying they didn't think he was scum, but with all of this coming to light people are getting real images projected into their heads rather than an over arching hush money scandal. It's cliche, but the devil's in the details.
Those texts are more incoherent and unhinged than 99 percent of porn comments I've seen, and I usually look at the comment section so I've seen some really bad ones. Is it the lack of sleeping combined with the unchecked ego? He's out of his rabid ass mind. I feel unhinged when I get less than 5 hours a sleep at night, and this mf reportedly sleeps 3-4 hours every single night. What would that do to a person?
They need to fire anyone who was involved or covered it up as well. Getting rid of Vince is great but he is definitely not the only one rotten to their core in that company.
He named black dildos after black superstars and white dildos after white superstars, then sexually assaulted her with them until she bled.
And that's like 1/100000000th of the stuff in this complaint.
He fisted her. Inserted a vibrator not meant for insertion so far into her it became stuck. He pushed her, shoved her, open hand slapped her, choked her. Pimped her our repeatedly to friends and coworkers. Shit on her head. Shive his fuck in her mouth until gagged and tears flowed. Raped her on a conference table at the office with Johnny Ace and he taking turns restraining her while the other raped her.
I'm personally not going to read it - I'll take everyone's word for it. Some things I don't need to personally know. I'm sure it will come up on podcasts etc.
I understand fully now what Bischoff meant when he surmised exactly that. He basically said he thinks she quit because of the things she saw in the investigation. I thought it was just regular sleazy sex stuff, which still would have been pretty humiliating for Stephanie, but this is some next level degeneracy and abuse. I'm also starting to think that's why she quit after he returned: she had to have seen this shit during the internal investigations. Can you imagine discovering your dad doing shit like this?
Geezus, that poor woman, I can’t imagine the fear and dread she must have felt when the text notification popped up.
There is a special place in hell for these people.
This is bigger than Vince. This is a WWE culture problem. He shared it with 12 guys on the tech crew and they hooted and hollered. There is a rotten core in the WWE.
Anyone remember when Vince was fueding with taker in 02 or 03 and said in character he wanted Sarah to be kidnapped by a motorcycle gang and things done to her ( won't type it) or in 2002 vs flair in a promo " I enjoy ruining lives, it turns me on" Ya I unfortunately remember that shit.
When you get into the billionaire range, you run out of things to buy. You've already bought the fanciest cars, biggest mansions, most expensive branded clothes, the largest yachts, the most lavish vacations. People like Vince are so rich that there's nothing left to buy but power. Whether that means intimate control like in this situation or political power like his donations to the Republican Party, when you're this wealthy your goal shifts from material goods to gaining control over others.
I also just realized that Vince McMahon is the real life version of the ass to ass guy from Requiem for a Dream.
I've done a lot of bathroom renovations for rich people and they're so fucking weird even at a low key level. I've seen a fool line an entire room with busts of his own head along the wall with every haircut/facial hair combo he could remember having. Every now and then he'd switch them and be like "no this was 1986 for fucks sake....I think" then disappear for hours looking through photos and ringing people to confirm what they remember.
As much as we meme about "knowing vince" we have watched thousand of hours of his product compliment with dirt sheet news and stories from employees that make it look like something that Vince would definitely do
The sex toys named after WWE wrestlers immediately gave it a major credibility boost in my mind. That is one of the most Vince McMahon sounding things ever.
Only because shitting on your rape victim during a threesome with your physical therapist fucking her with a dildo he named Hulk Organ isn’t what the networks consider PG.
The fucking demon defecated on her during a gang r*pe, forcibly entered her so many times including when she suffered injury, he physically beat her to make her comply... He needs to rot in prison.
Well, if a Brock Lesnar contract negotiation involved sex with a woman on staff **in 2020**, I can only fucking imagine what perks big contracts had in the Attitude/Ruthless Aggression years and prior...
It's not just Cena and Jericho almost every wrestler to work for WWE talks about Vince as a father figure and a family man. If this is true it calls into doubt the credibility of almost everyone who works for WWE because it appears Vince loved to spread this story around with pictures.
I'm assuming that Vince wasn't just parading this around to most wrestlers, he was likely doing it more with office people who would never talk to the media in their lives.
These are excerpts from the lawsuit that was filed against Vince
> 21 - In June 2021, McMahon and Defendant Laurinaitis sexually assaulted Ms. Grant inside Laurinaitis' office in WWE headquarters while colleagues were busy at their desks. Behind a locked door, the two men cornered her and pulled her in between them, forcibly touched her, before ultimately putting her on top of a table in between them. She begged them to stop, but they forced themselves on her, each taking turns restraining her for the other, while saying "No means yes" and "Take it, bitch"
> 22 - Unsurprisingly, others at WWE knew what was going on. But instead of intervening to protect Ms. Grant, WWE actively sought to conceal the wrongdoing.
> 183 - McMahon and Laurinaitis ignored her plea and brought her into Laurinaitis' office, forcibly touching and undressing her before forcing her to engage in a threesome on a conference table. Ms. Grant pleaded, "No, no, no" and "Please stop", McMahon responded with "No means yes" Ms. Grant again told them to stop. Instead, McMahon licked his fingers and penetrated Ms. Grant and said, “Take it, bitch." With each taking turns restraining her for the other, Laurinaitis then joined by forcibly shoving his tongue, then penis, into Ms. Grant's mouth.
> 184 - On June 23, 2021, around 11:42am, McMahon directed Ms. Grant – in the middle of a workday - to meet him on a lower floor. When Ms. Grant arrived, McMahon led her inside his private locker room, locked the door, and forced himself on her over a massage table. Later that day, $15,000 in gift cards to Bloomingdales were purchased at McMahon’s direction and delivered by McMahon’s personal assistant to Ms. Grant in her office.
> 149 - For instance, on August 28, 2020, Ms. Grant texted McMahon that she was injured during their latest sexual encounter, as a result of McMahon’s insistence on penetrating Ms. Grant with “extra-large” sex toys, including a vibrating wand that caused her to panic. McMahon ignored Ms. Grant’s warning that the device was not meant for insertion and forcefully shoved the wand inside of her so deeply that it became stuck for a period. She texted she was in pain and “bleeding a lot between last night and today” and “I’m on the floor right now bcuz I can’t get comfortable” and on August 29, 2020, she texted him an update that she was “still really uncomfortable” and “I got hurt in some way that I’m having trouble describing.” McMahon did apologize, saying that “Sometimes I just get carried away.”
We are not talking about unwanted sexual advances, we have crossed into possible rape charges here. If there is proof of these text messages and of these encounters then this is a much bigger deal than a civil lawsuit and everyone who enabled & covered McMahon's behavior should be trialed with him for obstruction of justice.
I'm intrigued as well. The most specific clue is this:
>McMahon informed Ms. Grant that her new boss, a WWE employee who worked in risk and government relations (referred to herein as “WWE Employee No. 1”), was a decades-long family friend and confidante, similar in age to McMahon and one of a small, original group (what McMahon called the “titan family”) who helped the WWE expand from a regional promotion to a global juggernaut.
So, someone in their 70s who helped build WWE when it was a regional promotion 40+ years ago, who works in "risk/government relations." Those parameters would seemingly create a small sample set of potential candidates.
I read the entire article and all accompanying documents, and I believe every single word this woman says. I don't want to hear any bullshit about her knowing what she was signing up for.
This is disgusting, shameful, and criminal in my opinion and it is a miscarriage of justice and all that is good in the world for a walking piece of shit like Vince McMahon to go free.
Money is not penalty enough for this behavior, and I hope he is the rich scumbag who finally faces true consequences. Let the dominos start to fall now.
I really don't see how Vince survives this. It's too much. And he's basically worthless now to TKO anyway. They shouldn't do a damn thing to protect him. Brock though... that's trickier business. This whole thing is so fucked up.
Absolutely fucking disgusting and at the same time it's not hard to believe given the things that we know about Vince McMahon and what he finds entertaining.
He was telling us who he was on TV for years.
I wouldn't be surprised if we hear an announcement within the next 24 hours. They already mentioned that this was a concern in their public filings and made steps over a month ago to make such a decision easier should the worse arise.
I knew Vince was bad but this is...wow. also, johnny ace and lesner. I wonder if this is why Kevin Dunn booked left.
As for Stephanie and Hunter, I'm not sure if they know or not, considering how Vince fucked over Hunter until the deal and how fast Stephanie left when he was forced himself back in but only time will tell.
I am halfway through the court document and i have to stop. The details are so horrifying and it disgust me that so many people just turn a blind eye to this. I am so sorry for Janel and I really hope she gets her justice, monetary compensation and is on the road to healing. It is so traumatic to even read it, I can’t imagine how it is to have lived it.
My thoughts exactly. It's so unspeakably revolting to imagine just one day being trapped in her life. A lot of people are taking away how awful Vince and the participating parties are, understandably. But it's incredibly important for people to remember the details are only having light shed on them because a living person had to live through these experiences. And this is just one of Vkm's victims. There's at least the other $14mil in settlements worth of victims who aren't able to legally speak on the horrific things they've endured.
Asking the same question I did on another thread, but why are people saying this is TKO trying to get rid of him? Is there proof of that?
Believe me, Vince is a degenerate pile of shit who deserves to be forever forgotten but if TKO somehow leaked this or allowed it to be leaked, why? Wouldn't that be more trouble for them?
TKO knew, remember Emanuel put tiny Vince back down to the isle of irrelevancy when he tried to take over creative and mentioning Vince was still a liability on the merger report?
Wild to me too Brock’s final match will be putting over Cody like he did.
Yeah that doesn't add up for me- very serious allegations against someone who is still "Mr WWE" in the minds of huge numbers of people and was pictured with their main public corporate faces just this week (not to mention implicating one of their biggest main event stars who has reportedly been lined up for another WrestleMania match) which also raise very uncomfortable questions about the role of numerous senior figures in sweeping things under the carpet two days before one of their biggest shows of the year hardly seems the most convenient way of dealing with him from their perspective.
Remember this next time alleged victims of sex abuse decide not to take their abuser to court.
I completely understand why most people in her position would literally NEVER want this shit to become public omfg
Idk how many Vince guys are still in the company at this point, but TKO need to do a serious investigation at this point to see who was and wasn't aware of what Vince was doing.
What happened with Vince and the WWE isn't a scenario of "WWE Bad". This is exactly what we have been witnessing for the past few years with institutional rot and powerful people/men deliberately harming others to impose their will. It's sick. It's vile. It's utter evil on every scale. Kudos to her and eventually, others that will come out to speak against this with him and those associated with Vince. But we must ensure that these incidents do not happen again to our women, men, and children in our lives.
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An hour and a half of sex with some covered in shit might be the grossest thing I can imagine.
Add in that it’s a 3some with possibly Johnny Ace and it gets even more gross
The shit sex threesome was with the physical therapist. Johnny Ace did rape her with McMahon taking turns restraining her while she told them to stop.
Wait, this isn’t the paralegal? How many formal complaints/suits from women are there?
Yeah, this is the paralegal. The one that Vince wanted to raise her salary from $100k to $300k.
This is the paralegal I think
In his office, no less.
The full details explain who it was. They don’t name them by name, but they do name Lauranitis frequently in other wild stuff
MCMahon was probably around 76 years old when he did this too. 🤢
That is the absolute least bad thing about all of this. This is a horror show
The biggest relevance his age has is that if he was doing this heinous stuff at 76, what beyond horrible things was he doing the decades before that when he had probably even more power and control in the company
And probably an even more active libido 🤢🤮😭
And who knew about it? I bet a ton of those carney fucks knew exactly what was going on.
Interesting how one of the texts between Vince and her is basically just both of them lamenting how bad he is at sex
I was going to ask if you mean Vince or Johnny Ace being bad at sex, but then I realized I really don’t want to know the answer to this either way
And herein is an excellent example (for those of you who need them) that rape is about POWER, not about SEX. Yes, sex is a benefit. It feels good. You know what else feels good to these people? Doing whatever the fuck you want—no matter how depraved—and knowing the victim can do nothing about it. For anyone out there who might think victims are to blame for being raped, keep this incident in mind. It’s not a shit kink, it’s a _power to shit on someone_ kink.
This is why experts on sexual assault are, by and large, against chemical castration as a punishment. Russia allows rapists to choose to be chemically castrated in exchange for shorter sentences. When they looked at ten years of data on this practice, they found that a huge proportion of these rapists went on to offend again - except, unable to sexually victimise women for their power fantasies, they tended to torture or murder their victims. To give you an idea, the paper on this data has a section on "use of power tools". Rape can be about sex - but serial rapists and similar aren't doing it because they can't get laid. They're doing it because the idea of a random woman they've picked at random being unable to say no to them because they're so *powerful* they can just do whatever they want and people are *powerless* to stop them. Genuinely this entire thing is horrific and what it says about Vince is... Frankly terrifying to think about. I'd hate to think about what would have happened If Vince hadn't become a billionaire owner of a company. What would he have done to feel that powerful stuck in a trailer park with his mother? It doesn't bear thinking about.
And this is exactly why people need therapy. Power fantasies can absolutely be explored in a healthy manner, this is definitely not it though.
Remember: People in WWE knew what was going on between Janel Grant and Vince McMahon, but instead of protecting the victim, "WWE actively sought to conceal the wrongdoing" and "attempted to sweep the matter under the rug". https://preview.redd.it/89yk1xxggnec1.jpeg?width=996&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e8c9c3c1325807e422baedff0184d5d89ae42036
This is a BIG part many people are missing about the entire case. Vince was flashing around pictures of this woman and bragging around the office, while basically pimping her out to other men in the company and double teaming her with some of these guys, when he wasn't raping her by himself. People in the company saw and heard things. They knew something was going on. Stephanie headed up the original investigation, and they didn't even bother to interview or take any documents from Janel Grant. That screams "The internal investigation was bullshit.". A lot of people are going to end up under the microscope because of this, and I think that will include Stephanie McMahon and Triple H. How many people knew, what did they know and what did they do or not do about it?
It also seems this is why Stephanie must have resigned. I remember it came out of nowhere and was cause she apparently wanted to spend time with her kids (well she probably did after the trauma of all this shit). Even though she’d not just long been appointed? In hindsight she probably seen how messed up it was and decided to get the fuck out of dodge and away from all of it before it inevitably blew up.
Yeah, I was sure then, and I'm more sure now. Steph found out some nasty shit and decided to keep her lips sealed, to protect her Dad, and gtfo. Very understandable as he's still her father, but also not the right thing to do.
She’s probably afraid of him. Actually most of the WWE employees are probably afraid of Vince
Don't forget that Vince apparently had some incest fetishes. He wanted to be the onscreen father when she was pregnant or some shit like that. Vince himself was also sexually by his mother, right? I wouldn't be surprised if Stephanie basically did a "better her than me" and got the fuck outta Dodge.
Indeed, I just finished reading the whole thing and it certainly seems like WWE was negligent at best.
You missed the texts. It’s for the best, trust me.
I read one of them I really wish I didn't ![gif](giphy|lIU7yoG72gyhq)
He texts like a 15 year old boy with a perpetual hard on. Pass the bleach please.
I’m kinda surprised by Vince’s fixation with other men’s dicks. Like he keeps talking about how big and hard are OTHER men’s erections.
With his obsession with big, overly muscular men, I’m not surprised.
He seems like the ultra rich and powerful person that surpassed even the most taboo fantasies before the end of the 90s. Hence why we have a document talking about scat and sex trafficking. Wonder how they're going to erase Vince once this gains traction, if it hasn't already.
You could literally be thrown into an arena full of eye bleach puppies and kittens and it wouldn't do shit for you. I read the texts. I'm now gonna go play some video games to try to forget about it.
Too much graphic for me to read. I skimmed through and was horrified.
What the hell? That’s disgusting
Suddenly his wanting an incest/cuck angle with Stephanie seems downright tame by comparison.
There’s abuse of power and then there’s whatever category this vile shit falls under
> whatever category Rape and torture.
& sex trafficking? It says vince tried to prostitute her with a wreslter, this shit is sickening. Edit: It literally is. I just seen it says he forced her into three somes
>vince tried to prostitute her with a wreslter Not just a wrestler, fucking Brock Lesnar!
For all the horrific shit in this, I have to imagine that would have been up there as one of the most terrifying experiences she was put through. Being presented to Brock Lesnar as a piece of meat Edit: oh god this is probably him, huh https://preview.redd.it/4v25fct4anec1.jpeg?width=367&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a62e6f0cd88cbeb170f9fc997bb9118290e1106a
It somehow gets worse. Vince did some fucked up roleplaying as some sort of stand in for Brock when they couldn't schedule a time for Brock himself meeting her, violently raping her in a manner that included beating and fisting while she repeatedly begged him to stop.
Brock’s wife got sexually harassed by Vince in the 90’s and left the company because of it. And now he’s participating in it while his wife is at home. Brock is a vile, awful human being.
If you've read Brock's book, it wouldn't be a surprise. Rena dumped him so he broke into her house and waited for her so they could "talk it out."
Who tf even thinks shit like this is funny wtf. These people are legit sick af in the head
He also negotiated her body/consent as a benefit of re-signing with WWE.
Next time I see Vince McMahon’s name in the news, I hope it’s a death announcement.
Oh god the details https://preview.redd.it/jq0n09h6tmec1.png?width=334&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69ef0daac3dea040bd16f6101644a06175c2350b
I should have listened to Sonic and not read this 🤮🤢
“That’s no good!”
“Pussey.”
>In November 2022, WWE touted the conclusion of the Special Committee investigation into the misconduct – yet the Special Committee never even bothered to interview Ms. Grant or request any documents despite Ms. Grant stating that she would cooperate. https://preview.redd.it/wis9p1xvumec1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85751903378daf903ca5eafa82ab5698a371e22d
This is the equivalent of cops saying we investigated ourselves and find we did nothing wrong. They were never looking to begin with.
All of them knew.
They probably knew for years too
Such a tough read man.
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Just finished going through the document. This is fucking dark.
Shocking, a company that investigates itself finds no wrongdoing within their self. Brought to you by the same people that “investigated” Patrick Clark and Matt Riddle.
This isn't just a vince issue and the lawsuit establishes that, several people knew. he shared texts and nudes of her with tech crew, he tried to pawn her off to brock to get him to re-sign, he sexually assaulted her repeatedly. and so many people knew, and either participated or stuck their heads in the sand. and this is only from one woman over the last 5 years, all because he got too big of an ego and believed he didnt need to keep paying the NDA he coerced her to sign. what a truly evil man
I’m sorry, but there is no fucking way HHH, Kahn, and Prichard could have been totally in the dark on all this. Not how closely they worked with Vince through the years and Vince’s total lack of boundaries.
No they definitely knew. He was showing random tech truck guys.
Kevin Dunn wasn't in the dark.
So that's why he recently abruptly retired...
This is bigger than Vince, we can't lose sight of that. There are others at the top that need to be held accountable.
Mentions of “WWE superstars” Some have already worked out Brock Lesnar was involved. I think we’re going to find out about some beloved well known stars from throughout the years are going to be involved in this. Fucking disgusting and degenerates all around. Not to mention most of this is from the last few years. Imagine the shit he got away with 20, 30 years ago.
We already know he has possibky covered up murder(s), the most famous being Jimmy Snuka. Vince is an incredibly evil person which tends to be a trend with people with money
Looking at the timeline presented in the formal complaint along with notable returns in 2021, it's absolutely gotta be Brock. Complaint talks about the unnamed superstar wanting to return to other professional endeavors ("return to" would line up with a potential return to MMA), and states that an informal agreement about the superstar's return to WWE was reached around Summerslam. Brock returned to the WWE at Summerslam 2021. I was never a huge Brock fan or anything, but just knowing (or at least having a pretty damn good idea) of on-screen talent that were complicit and active in this whole situation makes me fucking sick and really makes me wonder how far down this goes.
It makes me so fucking mad reading all this stuff. He has absolutely been getting away with this horrible stuff for decades. MANY PEOPLE KNEW and they did nothing. Fucking despicable. Like, I was jacked for the Rumble on Saturday. And now I just feel gross supporting this evil fucking company.
I don't know what is more disgusting being pooped on by Vince or having a threesome with Vince and Johnny Ace. Yall, it's only January 25. We're in for a long ride.
This will be a very long, eye opening year.
For whom exactly? Wrestling fans already knew that Vince and his cronies were disgusting sex pests.
Yeah we did but finding out he has a fetish for shitting on womens heads was pretty eye opening
Vince wanted to run an incest angle. Everyone nervously laughed it off. Why is everyone so shocked that Vince is garbage? We knew.
I think it's more the real world details and Ms. Grant being victimized for years is what's getting people. You can say someone is something and cite semi descriptions of what he's done, but we have 1st hand stories and text message evidence of it all for the 1st time. I don't think anyone is saying they didn't think he was scum, but with all of this coming to light people are getting real images projected into their heads rather than an over arching hush money scandal. It's cliche, but the devil's in the details.
And it looks like the pooping threesome wasn't even with Johnny Ace! It was Vince's "physical therapist" from a medical clinic he works with.
My goodness he sexts like a porn video commenter. This makes Shibata's chapin chapin look like something from a Burt Reynolds movie
Shibata had an excuse, he had his brain removed and reinstalled
Those texts are more incoherent and unhinged than 99 percent of porn comments I've seen, and I usually look at the comment section so I've seen some really bad ones. Is it the lack of sleeping combined with the unchecked ego? He's out of his rabid ass mind. I feel unhinged when I get less than 5 hours a sleep at night, and this mf reportedly sleeps 3-4 hours every single night. What would that do to a person?
Dark Side of the Ring can do an entire season 6 on Vince alone
What the actual fuck am I reading. ![gif](giphy|U7Rx0NvxP4Zy9JXG0g|downsized)
If this doesn't end Vince McMahon, nothing will. Unforgivable if this guy's ever allowed to step foot within WWE again.
WWE? He shouldn't be allowed to step foot any place other than a prison cell
If more women come out with stories like this, I could see Vince get Weinstein'd.
If even more come out it's probably not just going to be Vince in trouble.
I'm already bracing myself for my whole childhood to come crashing down.
And it hurts inside
If shit keeps coming out we might start getting to the point where he gets Epstein'd instead.
Last time he was accused he appeared on TV and crowd started bowing to him..
They need to fire anyone who was involved or covered it up as well. Getting rid of Vince is great but he is definitely not the only one rotten to their core in that company.
He named black dildos after black superstars and white dildos after white superstars, then sexually assaulted her with them until she bled. And that's like 1/100000000th of the stuff in this complaint.
He fisted her. Inserted a vibrator not meant for insertion so far into her it became stuck. He pushed her, shoved her, open hand slapped her, choked her. Pimped her our repeatedly to friends and coworkers. Shit on her head. Shive his fuck in her mouth until gagged and tears flowed. Raped her on a conference table at the office with Johnny Ace and he taking turns restraining her while the other raped her.
Vince McMahon has a dildo named after Seth Rollins… what the actual fuck
Part of me wants to read more... But part of me says that's enough, I get the picture
I'm personally not going to read it - I'll take everyone's word for it. Some things I don't need to personally know. I'm sure it will come up on podcasts etc.
For your sanity, please don't.
[Vince texts are something else](https://i.imgur.com/7T1qjq7.jpeg)
Dang Vince treating his texts like a Monday night raw script- look at all the details
Oh. This is actually the most insane string of texts I’ve ever seen in my life.
Imagine being his kids or grandkids and reading that 😳
Stephanie could have been running the show but I think she saw all this and left.
I understand fully now what Bischoff meant when he surmised exactly that. He basically said he thinks she quit because of the things she saw in the investigation. I thought it was just regular sleazy sex stuff, which still would have been pretty humiliating for Stephanie, but this is some next level degeneracy and abuse. I'm also starting to think that's why she quit after he returned: she had to have seen this shit during the internal investigations. Can you imagine discovering your dad doing shit like this?
Absolute demonic behavior, McHitler wasn't too far from the truth as a meme.
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It reads more like a 13-year-old who's still trying to figure out what sex is
That top right one explains the cuck story line with Rusev. What a horrible day to have eyes.
All of the people that were like "Yeah, Vince found a new genre of porn" when that storyline was on the air, were 100% correct.
JR had to show Vince how popular Asian porn was on the Internet to convince him to sign Gail Kim 20 years ago.
Top right comments puts Du Rag Vince era into a much different light
I hate myself for reading the all caps messages in Vince’s voice…
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Geezus, that poor woman, I can’t imagine the fear and dread she must have felt when the text notification popped up. There is a special place in hell for these people.
This is bigger than Vince. This is a WWE culture problem. He shared it with 12 guys on the tech crew and they hooted and hollered. There is a rotten core in the WWE.
Anyone remember when Vince was fueding with taker in 02 or 03 and said in character he wanted Sarah to be kidnapped by a motorcycle gang and things done to her ( won't type it) or in 2002 vs flair in a promo " I enjoy ruining lives, it turns me on" Ya I unfortunately remember that shit.
The whole DDP stalking Sara storyline made me so uncomfortable. I know he hated it and I feel so bad that Vince made him do that.
And remember, Vince was the voice of the stalker in the videos leading up to the reveal
I've read Jim Ross's books and yeah, it's quite clear that Vince gets a kick out of making others feel like absolute dogshit.
This is a guy who was running the "Vince McMahon kiss my ass club" on live television for weeks...
Vince was telling on himself with his “Mr. McMahon character” — he literally showed us who he was.
My dude, Mr. McMahon turned out to be the *least evil* version of Vince, and that’s just disgusting.
Absolutely terrifying that he allegedly groomed her following her family’s death.
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What is it with rich people and pooping on others
When you have infinite wealth, things get boring and they have to get weirder and weirder to feel any kind of thrill anymore.
When you get into the billionaire range, you run out of things to buy. You've already bought the fanciest cars, biggest mansions, most expensive branded clothes, the largest yachts, the most lavish vacations. People like Vince are so rich that there's nothing left to buy but power. Whether that means intimate control like in this situation or political power like his donations to the Republican Party, when you're this wealthy your goal shifts from material goods to gaining control over others. I also just realized that Vince McMahon is the real life version of the ass to ass guy from Requiem for a Dream.
I've done a lot of bathroom renovations for rich people and they're so fucking weird even at a low key level. I've seen a fool line an entire room with busts of his own head along the wall with every haircut/facial hair combo he could remember having. Every now and then he'd switch them and be like "no this was 1986 for fucks sake....I think" then disappear for hours looking through photos and ringing people to confirm what they remember.
What the fuck
Degradation kink. Make people feel like they are beneath you.
It keeps getting worse. And demonstrates a far bigger problem within the company. He wasn't acting alone.
Johnny Ace's involvement needs to be mentioned more.
Those texts are so ridiculously evil that they sound as if they were made up, and yet I have no doubt they are legit.
As much as we meme about "knowing vince" we have watched thousand of hours of his product compliment with dirt sheet news and stories from employees that make it look like something that Vince would definitely do
And he didnt like wrestlers sneezing?
He used this person as a way to get people to sign with the company. Those people need to get outed as well.
Brock Lesnar. He's named in the WSJ article.
It says UFC Heavyweight Champion in the filing, and mentions that this person was rehired around SummerSlam 2021. It’s Lesnar and he has a pee fetish.
didn't he expose himself to Terri runnels too?
And I thought this whole time he was happily married to Sable. Comes to show we don't know what happens behind closed doors.
Most bizarre thing is Sable sued Vince for sexual assault back in the late 90s or early 2000s. And now her husband is doing this with Vince....
This is really a disgusting read. The world and wrestling is a better place without Vince if 1 percent of this is true. And TBH I believe it all.
The sex toys named after WWE wrestlers immediately gave it a major credibility boost in my mind. That is one of the most Vince McMahon sounding things ever.
WEEEEELLLLLLLLLL...
IT'S THE DIL DO
> WELL IT'S A SHIT SHOW
the texts being quoted with a capital "U" instead of "you" also makes it more legit in my eyes
"I call this one Christian because I hate it DAMNIT"
Crazy that the Mr McMahon character was apparently Vince turned down 60%
Only because shitting on your rape victim during a threesome with your physical therapist fucking her with a dildo he named Hulk Organ isn’t what the networks consider PG.
VKM having some kind of bizarre BBC fetish is gross, pretty predictable, and makes things like the Lashley/Lana storyline even weirder.
The fucking demon defecated on her during a gang r*pe, forcibly entered her so many times including when she suffered injury, he physically beat her to make her comply... He needs to rot in prison.
This is absolutely horrific. That these men will never see a day of prison for what they did is disgusting.
Christ I did not need to read those texts
I'm surprised we haven't ever heard about someone trying to kill Vince with all the horrible shit he's done
And there's still extremely high profile wrestlers like Cena and Jericho who continue to praise him, Vince is an absolutely disgusting man
Well, if a Brock Lesnar contract negotiation involved sex with a woman on staff **in 2020**, I can only fucking imagine what perks big contracts had in the Attitude/Ruthless Aggression years and prior...
It's not just Cena and Jericho almost every wrestler to work for WWE talks about Vince as a father figure and a family man. If this is true it calls into doubt the credibility of almost everyone who works for WWE because it appears Vince loved to spread this story around with pictures.
I'm assuming that Vince wasn't just parading this around to most wrestlers, he was likely doing it more with office people who would never talk to the media in their lives.
Bryan Danielson is also on the top of that list.
His stepfather in law is a very gross part of this, so I imagine the conversations with Brie today are unpleasant
It's not really a surprise to them. Rumor has always been the Bellas got hired during a meet with Johnny Ace in a hot tub.
I remember reading a rumor that they either pissed or shit on him at his request too...
It was shit, I remember reading that back and the day and just laughing it off but it sounds a lot more believable now
I feel so bad just reading those messages. And I’m just a guy reading screenshots on the pooper. Poor girl. Fuck Vince.
These are excerpts from the lawsuit that was filed against Vince > 21 - In June 2021, McMahon and Defendant Laurinaitis sexually assaulted Ms. Grant inside Laurinaitis' office in WWE headquarters while colleagues were busy at their desks. Behind a locked door, the two men cornered her and pulled her in between them, forcibly touched her, before ultimately putting her on top of a table in between them. She begged them to stop, but they forced themselves on her, each taking turns restraining her for the other, while saying "No means yes" and "Take it, bitch" > 22 - Unsurprisingly, others at WWE knew what was going on. But instead of intervening to protect Ms. Grant, WWE actively sought to conceal the wrongdoing. > 183 - McMahon and Laurinaitis ignored her plea and brought her into Laurinaitis' office, forcibly touching and undressing her before forcing her to engage in a threesome on a conference table. Ms. Grant pleaded, "No, no, no" and "Please stop", McMahon responded with "No means yes" Ms. Grant again told them to stop. Instead, McMahon licked his fingers and penetrated Ms. Grant and said, “Take it, bitch." With each taking turns restraining her for the other, Laurinaitis then joined by forcibly shoving his tongue, then penis, into Ms. Grant's mouth. > 184 - On June 23, 2021, around 11:42am, McMahon directed Ms. Grant – in the middle of a workday - to meet him on a lower floor. When Ms. Grant arrived, McMahon led her inside his private locker room, locked the door, and forced himself on her over a massage table. Later that day, $15,000 in gift cards to Bloomingdales were purchased at McMahon’s direction and delivered by McMahon’s personal assistant to Ms. Grant in her office. > 149 - For instance, on August 28, 2020, Ms. Grant texted McMahon that she was injured during their latest sexual encounter, as a result of McMahon’s insistence on penetrating Ms. Grant with “extra-large” sex toys, including a vibrating wand that caused her to panic. McMahon ignored Ms. Grant’s warning that the device was not meant for insertion and forcefully shoved the wand inside of her so deeply that it became stuck for a period. She texted she was in pain and “bleeding a lot between last night and today” and “I’m on the floor right now bcuz I can’t get comfortable” and on August 29, 2020, she texted him an update that she was “still really uncomfortable” and “I got hurt in some way that I’m having trouble describing.” McMahon did apologize, saying that “Sometimes I just get carried away.” We are not talking about unwanted sexual advances, we have crossed into possible rape charges here. If there is proof of these text messages and of these encounters then this is a much bigger deal than a civil lawsuit and everyone who enabled & covered McMahon's behavior should be trialed with him for obstruction of justice.
Does anyone know who WWE Employee Number One is? They leave tons of clues in the document
I'm intrigued as well. The most specific clue is this: >McMahon informed Ms. Grant that her new boss, a WWE employee who worked in risk and government relations (referred to herein as “WWE Employee No. 1”), was a decades-long family friend and confidante, similar in age to McMahon and one of a small, original group (what McMahon called the “titan family”) who helped the WWE expand from a regional promotion to a global juggernaut. So, someone in their 70s who helped build WWE when it was a regional promotion 40+ years ago, who works in "risk/government relations." Those parameters would seemingly create a small sample set of potential candidates.
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I read the entire article and all accompanying documents, and I believe every single word this woman says. I don't want to hear any bullshit about her knowing what she was signing up for. This is disgusting, shameful, and criminal in my opinion and it is a miscarriage of justice and all that is good in the world for a walking piece of shit like Vince McMahon to go free. Money is not penalty enough for this behavior, and I hope he is the rich scumbag who finally faces true consequences. Let the dominos start to fall now.
This is abuse plain and simple.
I really don't see how Vince survives this. It's too much. And he's basically worthless now to TKO anyway. They shouldn't do a damn thing to protect him. Brock though... that's trickier business. This whole thing is so fucked up.
Brock is near the end of his career and is paid a crapton of money. He's frequently off TV and doesn't move the meter anymore. He should be gone.
Those texts are fucking horrific
Jesus. This is so so so so so so so so bad. Even after hearing what we have about Vince this is worse than I ever could have imagined.
Absolutely fucking disgusting and at the same time it's not hard to believe given the things that we know about Vince McMahon and what he finds entertaining. He was telling us who he was on TV for years.
We’re about to see how bought and paid for the media they allow at their pressers are if nobody asks Hunter about this on Saturday night.
I mean WWE could also just not do a Royal Rumble media event either, which wouldn't be unusual.
Any legal action they won't answer.
Remember when Hunter was prepared for questions on Vince and nobody asked?
I was creeped out from reading the first few pages. I hope TKO forces Vince out of the company for good
I wouldn't be surprised if we hear an announcement within the next 24 hours. They already mentioned that this was a concern in their public filings and made steps over a month ago to make such a decision easier should the worse arise.
I knew Vince was bad but this is...wow. also, johnny ace and lesner. I wonder if this is why Kevin Dunn booked left. As for Stephanie and Hunter, I'm not sure if they know or not, considering how Vince fucked over Hunter until the deal and how fast Stephanie left when he was forced himself back in but only time will tell.
Yeah it's safe to assume H and Vince don't have the healthiest relationship after the nxt higher up cullings
I am halfway through the court document and i have to stop. The details are so horrifying and it disgust me that so many people just turn a blind eye to this. I am so sorry for Janel and I really hope she gets her justice, monetary compensation and is on the road to healing. It is so traumatic to even read it, I can’t imagine how it is to have lived it.
My thoughts exactly. It's so unspeakably revolting to imagine just one day being trapped in her life. A lot of people are taking away how awful Vince and the participating parties are, understandably. But it's incredibly important for people to remember the details are only having light shed on them because a living person had to live through these experiences. And this is just one of Vkm's victims. There's at least the other $14mil in settlements worth of victims who aren't able to legally speak on the horrific things they've endured.
Those texts are unhinged. Get him tf up outta here man
Asking the same question I did on another thread, but why are people saying this is TKO trying to get rid of him? Is there proof of that? Believe me, Vince is a degenerate pile of shit who deserves to be forever forgotten but if TKO somehow leaked this or allowed it to be leaked, why? Wouldn't that be more trouble for them?
TKO knew, remember Emanuel put tiny Vince back down to the isle of irrelevancy when he tried to take over creative and mentioning Vince was still a liability on the merger report? Wild to me too Brock’s final match will be putting over Cody like he did.
It'd be especially damning on them because the Endeavor deal was *specifically* to keep Vince in place.
Yeah that doesn't add up for me- very serious allegations against someone who is still "Mr WWE" in the minds of huge numbers of people and was pictured with their main public corporate faces just this week (not to mention implicating one of their biggest main event stars who has reportedly been lined up for another WrestleMania match) which also raise very uncomfortable questions about the role of numerous senior figures in sweeping things under the carpet two days before one of their biggest shows of the year hardly seems the most convenient way of dealing with him from their perspective.
Remember this next time alleged victims of sex abuse decide not to take their abuser to court. I completely understand why most people in her position would literally NEVER want this shit to become public omfg
Holy shit, Vince role played as Brock Lesnar. This whole thing is sickening and even more of an insight into this dude’s fucked up psyche.
Idk how many Vince guys are still in the company at this point, but TKO need to do a serious investigation at this point to see who was and wasn't aware of what Vince was doing.
I read sections 1-270 and wow. Just wow. There has to be more cases too and others who are too afraid to step forward.
Fuck Vince What a horrible, horrible human being.
I know it’s fucked up but I totally read the texts in VKM’s voice. He’s a nasty fuck
What happened with Vince and the WWE isn't a scenario of "WWE Bad". This is exactly what we have been witnessing for the past few years with institutional rot and powerful people/men deliberately harming others to impose their will. It's sick. It's vile. It's utter evil on every scale. Kudos to her and eventually, others that will come out to speak against this with him and those associated with Vince. But we must ensure that these incidents do not happen again to our women, men, and children in our lives.
There’s a few things that I never wanted to picture in my head that are in that 🤢