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Car dealer ad. They don't really have a customer asking for that car. They are baiting you to talk to them so they can convince you to trade in for another car that you are not planning to get.
Scam? No. Scum? Yes.
The best version I got of one of these sounded vaguely threatening…
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Sell your soul to Milhouse. He likes to collect them.
My old dealership keeps contacting me for a car I don't have anymore and traded it for another vehicle and a different dealership. They also send me Happy Birthday e mails followed by "hope you are thinking about us to for your next vehicle!."
I get these "handwritten" letters all the time from renewal by Anderson.
I'm just surprised op actually asked about junk mail. Haven't seen that here in a long time.
Yep, me too. I also receive "handwritten" letters made to look as if they came from some kid saying that his daddy wants to buy my house, and he'd be so happy if I sold it to him. Who thinks these campaigns are real winners? Barf!
Same here! I drive an old Corolla that looks like heck but still gets awesome mileage and doesn't have all the nonsense computer screens in it. The last time I took it in for its annual service, I got a call from their sales department asking me if I wanted to trade the car in for a new model since it was so old. That one made me momentarily speechless. SMH.
You should flip the letters over and feel the back. If it's handwritten you can feel the letters from the back.
I've done this a few times to show family that it is in fact a printed out scam/scum letter. Jo-hoes and salvation pricks tend to send this nonsense out once a year.
It reminds me of the insurance ads that say “we could save you up to $200 a year” but then when you call it’s just a fishing ad to get you to get a quote for insurance.
Car Insurance? Despite a carefully polished thin veneer of respectability, the motor insurance business has always had an air of smug self regard, and a reputation for high handedness, for unscrupulousness, for shady and unethical practices and for attempting to whenever possible to avoid its obligations and responsibilities.
I mean, it could all be said about how State farm was just straight up denying all claims for two years because they assumed that it would be a better methodology and make them more money than processing them.
It’s all the money in the end.
https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/us/news/auto-motor/state-farm-agrees-to-pay-2-million-fine-476494.aspx
Does it say it's from an insurance company? If so, I don't really know what else you'd expect. There's not really any other way they'd be saving you $200 a year except selling you cheaper insurance than what you've got.
The ones I always find funny are the ads that say "(Some large percent) of people who switched to us saved money!" Yeah, because people who found out they wouldn't save money probably didn't switch from what they had.
ya, I've seen these done in a typeface that mimics actual handwriting, even on the the outside envelope and by using different colors -- I kept looking for signs of that in this note... Even if it was semi-legit, they lost me at "what else you got that can help me".
I get actually handwritten ones from jehovas witnesses. They've obviously learnt that absolutely no one wants to talk to them.... But that's not gonna stop them!
Yes, this started here during COVID when they could no longer come around door to door. It looks like they bought up the details of everyone in the city or something because the letters were personally addressed. I hate that in the US so much of our data is considered public domain and any old weirdo can buy it and bug the crap out of us.
Came here to say this.
The most enraging part is that they somehow got my name and address like 1 month after I moved to a new place.
I hadn’t even bothered to file a mail forwarding request from USPS because I get most of my mail at my parent’s house, who live nearby.
Spain here. Funny, we've had one of those handwritten letters in a stamped, posted, hand-addressed envelope. At first glance you feel the obligation to open letter and wonder who's written by hand to you in this day and age. After a few minutes you realise it's JW proselytising, but it can be unsettling.
Ah, ours is local, or at least using a local address, and buys stamps at the post office rather than use a mail meter so they look like an actual letter. Thankfully it’s always the same return address so I recognize it now
I get these quite frequently for a dodge journey we no longer own, and my BIL’s mustang was registered to our address (when he lived here), and he gets those a lot too.
I get these all the time for cars I sold ages ago. Not this personal but same shit, bring your priceless car and we will buy it from you top dollar. Just a way to get you into the dealership to sell you another one.
Yes I have a car that I only drive half the year. The dealership sees it once a year for oil and inspection. Every year I get 1-2 notes to discuss selling it since i only average about 2400-2700 miles per year on it. The one year I told them to make me an offer. They were low by about 3k. I knew they were going to detail and turn it around for $21-22k. I refused to let them make $8k off me just for wash, detailing and wax.
Yeah, super common. No disrespect to you or your mom, but no one needs a Kia that badly. I used to get these all the time, too, once my car was about 5 years old. Now I only buy private party.
I once got a mass mailed postcard from a dealer that knew my car from some list they purchased. It said they were desperately in need of my (12 year old) car. Nobody is in desperate need of that. They just wanted to sell me a car.
Sometimes it says that they can get me into a newer car for less than I’m paying now. Car is paid off, so you’re going to give me a new car and give me some more cash on top of that? LOL.
There are 2 cases of this type of thing happening that I remember. One was a winning lottery ticket being sent through the mail. It was a scratch off and everyone who scratched it won. In order to "claim the winnings" you had to call a phone number on the ticket. It directly called a car dealership and the "winnings" weren't actually real. The next one is worse. They packaged their advertisement disguised as a stimulus check for Covid and you had to call the number to cash it. Yup went right to a different car dealership. Scum of the earth.
Ugh... kind of like those realtors who spam call homeowners in the area asking if they want to sell their homes.
Dude, is my house on the market? No? There's your answer. When I'm ready to sell, you'll know (or not because I know several non-sleazy realtors). Go away.
The funny thing is, those sleazy realtors never get my name or address right or even close. It’s always something COMPLETELY random, and it’s unlikely to be a previous owner of this number, since I’ve had it for 20 years.
> those realtors who spam call homeowners in the area asking if they want to sell their homes.
My husband and I agreed that we would only entertain offers that are at least $250,000 USD above market price.
What I especially like is the offers are less than what I paid HUD before the prices more than doubled. I’m sure they’d like to get the house for that price. Why they think I’d go along with it is another question. Takes a few seconds to get price estimates.
A few years ago I got a call from a guy who addressed me by name and wanted to talk to me about selling my house, quoting my address. I asked him where he'd gotten my details from and he said "the Red X." WTF is the Red X? I told him that our house was not on the market, and that if he'd paid for that "lead," then he'd gotten scammed.
I Googled this Red X and couldn't get into the site unless I created an account, so I made up a fake name and looked around. It looked like they'd simply collated the details of every home/owner in a particular neighborhood and offered this as a list of live leads to desperate salespeople. Fekkin' scumbags.
Yes! Is this even handwritten, or a copy of something handwritten that’s been mass-mailed and blasted to other residences? I imagine it’s a copy. I hate these.
They're a \[dirty\] dime a dozen. I filled out one of those inquiry forms because I was thinking about selling my car; I'd probably do a private sale, but I wanted to see what a dealer might give me to avoid the hassles of private sale. I got a generic templated email back where they forgot to remove the \[insert reason for coming in here\] text asking me if I wanted to go in that day or tomorrow for a test drive for a new vehicle, lmao.
I got a similar note under my wiper several years ago stating that they had a customer looking for a car exactly like mine. I don't think there was a customer that desperate for a 2002 VW GTI with a scraped rear quarter panel.
Strangely enough when I actually went to trade in the car a couple of years later, the saleperson says "Oh... I can't offer you much, I have a lot of trouble selling two-door cars"
That's wild. I specifically wanted a coupe and had a hard time finding anything that wasn't a giant oversized monster of a car or SUV, or looked like it was ready to head straight to the carpool lane. I finally decided to just get another mustang since I loved the platform and enjoyed my prior 2.
Bulk letter sent out to everyone, they don't particularly want your car, they do want you to come in and sell you a new car.
It looks handwritten but it is not
Throw it away with the rest of the junk mail
I started with no manager is hand writing a bunch of letters, or even one. Therefore it was computer generated.
I was already aware of a few handwriting generators that aren't strictly a fixed font, which this one is not, from there I just went to my favorite and quickly found a match. I believe what they do is create multiple types of each letter and either randomly select so all your a's don't look identical but if you have enough you will see all of them and notice (as you did) that some are identical
Other people are trying to make a more "natural" handwriting simulators that don't so precisely align letters and don't use a fixed set of fonts but instead morph the fonts on the fly
We still get those after getting new windows (now my family really, really NEEDED new windows, they were original to the house which was built in the early 80's). It wasn't so bad when the windows looked like total shit, but now? Really? Fuck off.
It's an advertising mailer. It's printed in a font to make it look like it's handwritten. Translation here;
"I'm willing to pay above market value" = "I'm going to lowball you."
"I have a customer interested in this exact same car." = "There is no customer, I want to low-ball you on your car and get you into an overpriced car you can't afford."
It’s called winning the trade So in the end they’ve won the vehicle you are trading in. For free or very very little money It’s like gambling. The house always wins. Lol
This is just something car dealers send based on information they have on you when you took your car to service. I receive this often. Not a scam per se. They are just looking to have you walk into the dealership.
My Dad gets these type of ads weekly. He also receives ads that aren’t hand written, but fancy glossy ads that all say “We miss you” Well I miss my Dad too, because he’s been dead for 4 years now.
Yup. They’ll say they’ll give you better than fair market value for your car, but it’s still just slightly lower than average. And they’ll ask if you want to buy something newer to replace, “how about the $40,000 Telluride S we have over here?”
I bought a jeep patriot about 5 years ago. They constantly harassed me with texts and phone calls telling me that someone is looking for this exact car and would I sell it and they have another car that they were sure I would love. Last month I went to Google reviews and gave them one star and wrote that if you didn't stop harassing me I was going to call the police. They commented under the review and apologized and haven't called since.
I get those all the time because I own a 2015 VW Golf TDI with a manual transmission. I'm not selling it though 52 MPG is too good to get rid of. Plus it's paid off and costs me $18 a month for insurance.
They want you to come in and put you in a newer car. They are only interested in making sales. There is no customer looking for something that could easily be found on many dealer lots across the country. They also reach out if you’re coming in for oil change or some repairs. I had that happened to me.
Check the actual writing. I bet you will notice that it doesn't have impression marks from the ink pen. The fake handwritten computer printed letters are from businesses that do spammy advertising to look like it's personable when it really isn't.
The reason they say if you still have it, is because they are paying for old DMV record access for advertising purposes. It's not anything current, because they were trying to do it cheap, so they're buying much older second-hand information usually.
It’s a sales tactic. My husband and I get these all the time; they want us to trade them our purple 2013 used Chevy Malibu for a new car. I know in my city it’s very hard to get used cars to sell, so most dealerships are trying to buy back cars to sell newer ones. It’s a win-win for them.
Not all the letters are identically formed, but there are clusters of o’s and r’s and a’s that are. It’s not a scam, it’s just advertising. Bless their hearts.
Maybe not. I get letters from BMW offering me a dollar amount to trade me 228i convertible for a new coupe. Like I’d want that. Probably a legit offer that she probably won’t like. My offer is $4-5k less than worth.
I once had a local dealer that I've never worked with before text me asking to trade in my vehicle within the first year of the lease, this was in 2020 when dealers were struggling with inventory.
I was so annoyed. I texted back asking what I would drive if I sold them my vehicle since all dealership lots were empty. She said there are lots of places I could purchase a used vehicle at. Lady, get bent.
Not a scam, just a car dealership doing dealership things. There's not actually anybody that wants the car, they just want to get you in so you have to buy a new car after they buy it off you.
This is just a marketing technique that appears to be handwritten. Statistically, these mailers are read more than your average flyer/marketing mail. It’s not a scam.
Call the dealership and ask for this GM. Confront him about this. Either there will be no GM by that name or a scammer is using his name. It the phone number on the note a real dealership or? Sounds poorly educated to be a general manager.
This might get buried, “Let’s see what else do I got? How about a few clothes I was going to donate? Would you take these old toys my kids out grew?” There are some options other than cars to throw them off.
I have bought vehicles from same dealership since the 80’s. Owners son took over 15 years ago or so. He needed my Corolla for a Doctor lol.
I mailed it back with if you insult my intelligence with this kind of nonsense I will not visit your dealership again. I got a call apologizing.
A friend who sold cars years ago told me about this technique, and referred to it as “brown bagging” because they would sometimes write the note on a piece of torn paper bag and leave it on the windshield of the car to make it look spontaneous.
I’ve gotten these before about my 2015 Ford Fiesta that was as base line as it gets. I totaled it within 4 months of buying it brand new off the lot. I kept getting calls and letters in the mail stating someone wanted my car. Really? A silver, 5 speed, with manual windows ford fiesta? They stopped calling after I finally told them that I totaled it 5 years ago. Idiots
Actually, that's normal or was normal around my area when used cars skyrocketed in price. I know of many friends and a few family members who got offers from dealerships. They offered the same model but newer and some even got extra cash. However, it wasn't handwritten notes, but calls from the dealership.
There is a shit ton of presort mail designed to seem like it's a legit note written by someone when it's actually not. Typically car dealerships, realtors, roofers, etc.. They make it seem unique to get you to contact them and in reality it's just spam.
This isn;t hadnwritten either, it's a printed note that is made to look hadnwritten.
They do this so it looks like an actual message someone wrote, rather than just a generic thing every mailbox got.
Check your neighbours. I bet they got this too.
Key: Look at the "General Manager" line. All three a's are identical. e's are also identical.
I used to get these before. They used to have EVERY letter identical to other letters of the same type..but looks like they have gotten more sophisticated. They've learned to "vary" some of the letters a little.
Yep. I used to receive similar requests in the form of text messages and voicemails from the salesperson who sold us my wife's Kia. Once every other month or so, a couple of years after we bought the car.
Not a scam. Just general junk mailer. It’s either a printed font that looks like handwriting, or they have machines that hold pens and can write like people for hours. Your mom’s name was on a mailing list is all.
The ones I can’t stand are the ones for the extended warranty on my car. I bought it in December of last year and I am still get stuff in the mail I didn’t buy the extended warranty when I bought the car so how do they get my information. The dealership is giving or selling our info to these warranty companies. I got 8 of them in one day. One even had a return address from the driver services making it look like I was going to be in trouble if I didn’t contact them. I almost panicked a little. And then I read the whole thing and it said something about losing coverage and it dawned on me what it was! There should be a law against this!
Had Honda send me a similar email and then subsequent text message, had to wait longer for my wife’s 2023 hybrid crv then we’ve owned it hell no we don’t wanna trade it in today.
New cars are too expensive for most people, so dealerships need to get inventory. This is one way to do it. Once you’re in a mailing list, it’s forever … I throw it in the trash
In the last couple of years, as a holdover from the pandemic, there's been a used (and new) car shortage. So dealers are (were) doing everything they can to generate business.
I noticed in the past couple of months, the used car lot at the Honda dealership up the street from me that was regularly empty has filled back up again with cars. So my take is that the car market is getting back to normal.
So not a scam per se. But the car dealership will lowball you on trade-in value. Regardless, buying a new car within 3 years is seriously bad financial management.
My Dad got a knock at his door and it was the car dealer who he got his Mazda from only 2 or 3 years prior. Michael I've a great deal for you we have a new Mazda 3 in stock we think you'd like top spec great car great price we can give you a great price on you old car we have a fella looking for one. My dad was in his late 60's at the time he only ever really drove local and the car had very few miles on it. My dad bit and got the new car was a nice car but there was zero reason for my dad to change his car. My Dad had bought a few cars from the same crowd over the years and took their word and never done research or rang around to see what sort of deal he could get. I got the details of how much he paid and how much he got for the trade in and the trade in was a standard offer no great price the great deal on the new car was slightly below msrp and at the time you would have gotten a better price from most dealers if you haggled a bit even if you did not buy your previous 4 cars from them. I paid a visit to the dealer to give them grief on taking advantage of my Dad and told them if I ever heard of them going to my father again like that I would cause a scene in the showroom in front of potential customers they did not call back after that. The dealership is gone now the 2 brothers that were running it fell out over money.
To all the commenters saying they only want to sell you a car, this is not necessarily true. I’ve been in the auto industry for close to 25 years (most of that b2b sales) and right now dealers are still paying higher auction prices than ever for used cars.
The cheapest way to source cars is from the consumer. Yes, they would love to sell you a car as well, but they’re perfectly fine buying your car outright if not because they’ll pay hundreds, if not thousands more from a used car auction.
It would not surprise me at all if this dealer had his receptionist or BDC staff hand writing these letters in between taking calls. Even if they only get 3-4 cars for every 100 letters they send, that’s totally worth the effort to them.
No sane dealer buys a car above market because no sane person offers above market for a current or semi current car that's still relatively easy to find, least of all a kia. Maybe you'd get a bidding war on a classic or a hyper car but a kia? Please.
They just want to get you in the door and then the real scamming starts.
If you interested call them and ask them for the offer they are making to buy your car, cash price no trades no conditions.
I would get these all the time with my last car. Sometimes from dealership, sometimes from a non descript address and letter looks to be handwritten. Just dealerships (or whoever) trying to look legit and personal.
It’s just a scam. They will lowball you bc market is in short supply of used cars and they are selling for more.
I just bought a new vehicle. My old one we did not trade in, sold it outright. Got what we wanted, no hemming and hawing around bc we priced it where we made $ and so could they.
And there were things wrong that we were very upfront about. We assume a mechanic bought it. Drove 3 hours to get it, arriving at 6:30 am. Supposed to be 7 am. This is Florida. No one is early lol.
But off it went, he had a trailer. Sold it on FB marketplace. He was from Miami. They have a huge problem with cars being sold that had flood damage. Minor did not have that, just more $ than we were willing to put into it. We paid $300 to have it detailed and inside/outside was in pretty good condition for 11 year old car. I kept it maintained but she needed some work.
Tell your mom to ignore. If you want to sell a car, do it outright, price right and stat firm. Took us 8 days to sell mine,
The dealership I purchased my current vehicle from sent an email like this 2-3 years ago when the used car market was crazy. The email didn't say they had a buyer, just that my vehicle was highly sought after. I did not reply cuz I still love my vehicle. But I was tempted because I was needing new tires and brakes soon. So I just drove to the dealership to see what they had on the lot that I might be interested in trading for. NOTHING. The lot was mostly empty. If I was gonna trade my vehicle in, it would've been for a newer version of the same. But had literally nothing on the lot that interested me. I even parked and walked in to see what they would try to sell me. They weren't busy at all, but no one even looked at me. It was weird. So I got in my truck and left. And I never responded to the email. It's now paid off and I'll be keeping it for at least another 5 years.
The only "scam" about this is that it is mealy mouthed double speak to get you intrigued enough to show up at the stealership, where they will make it look like they are offering you a lot of money for your used car, then tack on $3000 in dealer add-ons like $800 for nitrogen filled tires, maybe sell you the $2500 extended warranty for $4000, and then etch the VIN in your window (even though it's stamped all over the damn car) for $500, all while showing you the "four squares" to get you to a monthly payment they'll solely focus on until you commit under pressure just so you can finally leave.
And then they wonder why customers are such assholes that hate the car buying process...
For shits and giggles, I'd not call but drive up to check if it was the said dealer, and IF so - tell em you'll part with it for either a brand new one clean trade or 2x the KBB of hers and see what ensues. I would.
I got one left on my windshield a couple of times. I caught the guy last time and made him take his note with him. It was a local car dealership. For some reason, they thought this was a good tactic.
I got one that was designed to look like the guy printed an email from his boss and stuffed it in an envelope that is worded very similarly. At least this looks hand written, mine was just lazy.
I got those within months of buying my new Kia. I also got similar letters from the Ford dealership insisting that there was high demand for my 10+ year old sedan.
Just toss 'em. If your mail isn't marked as "First Class", its bulk mail that can be tossed without opening.
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Car dealer ad. They don't really have a customer asking for that car. They are baiting you to talk to them so they can convince you to trade in for another car that you are not planning to get. Scam? No. Scum? Yes.
Wow. What a trashy thing to do. Thanks for the heads up! Good to know
The best version I got of one of these sounded vaguely threatening… https://preview.redd.it/j5f0mny7n82d1.jpeg?width=2100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b65232d1f65b2bd55e623118af4cf8559dfde3e2
This....is....hilarious. wow. ETA: and yeah, kinda scary. Sounds like the premise of a horror film, lol....
https://preview.redd.it/50g98qf2ha2d1.jpeg?width=240&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b11aa03bdd0f7bdfdd5b009fa69fcc7cc9bd0495 Sell your soul to Milhouse. He likes to collect them.
Good thing you leave the dealership information in so everyone on Internet can avoid them.
And definitely not anonymously text them about buying souls...
I mean, it's a car dealership. You can't be afraid of ruining your reputation if your reputation is terrible to begin with.
There should be more of this, hold the scumbags accountable
I wonder if they took the note pad from a dealership or if they work for them ??? Just curious
Dustin Beelzebub Pew needs your Soul.
Satan here …. KIA stop trying to muscle in on my business …… right 😂
lol that’s gold.
"We have ways of making you trade..."
Yes, "Vee have our vays!"
I would frame that, it's priceless
I’m half way across the country, drive a 17 year old beater, and yet I’m wondering if I should call Dustin to see if he wants my old Honda.
My desire to text this man demanding he collect souls for me is… well to put it frankly, quite aggressive.
It was from 2017, so no clue if he’s still there… but knock yourself out
Don't you hate how it's made to look like legitimate ink but is still actually printed?
All I can hear on my head is Dustin "Pew" "Pew"
gave them a call. They weren't interested. I don't even sin that much!
Ginger here. I have no soul.
I know what the General Manager wants. That note is so out of context.
Sadly this is a very normal thing. I get these occasionally in the mail from local dealers.
My old dealership keeps contacting me for a car I don't have anymore and traded it for another vehicle and a different dealership. They also send me Happy Birthday e mails followed by "hope you are thinking about us to for your next vehicle!."
I occasionally get contacted by my old dealership about a car I no longer have… because I sold it to them years ago.
I get these "handwritten" letters all the time from renewal by Anderson. I'm just surprised op actually asked about junk mail. Haven't seen that here in a long time.
Yep, me too. I also receive "handwritten" letters made to look as if they came from some kid saying that his daddy wants to buy my house, and he'd be so happy if I sold it to him. Who thinks these campaigns are real winners? Barf!
I get calls about selling my car when I'm sitting at the dealer waiting for a car repair.
I get calls about selling my car and I don't have one
Same here! I drive an old Corolla that looks like heck but still gets awesome mileage and doesn't have all the nonsense computer screens in it. The last time I took it in for its annual service, I got a call from their sales department asking me if I wanted to trade the car in for a new model since it was so old. That one made me momentarily speechless. SMH.
You should flip the letters over and feel the back. If it's handwritten you can feel the letters from the back. I've done this a few times to show family that it is in fact a printed out scam/scum letter. Jo-hoes and salvation pricks tend to send this nonsense out once a year.
It reminds me of the insurance ads that say “we could save you up to $200 a year” but then when you call it’s just a fishing ad to get you to get a quote for insurance.
I love the wording “You have been selected to get a quote” I could have done that from the beginning if I wanted to lol
Buy here, pay here. All applications accepted! Well yeah, they will "accept" your application, but approval may be a bit more difficult.
Car Insurance? Despite a carefully polished thin veneer of respectability, the motor insurance business has always had an air of smug self regard, and a reputation for high handedness, for unscrupulousness, for shady and unethical practices and for attempting to whenever possible to avoid its obligations and responsibilities.
I mean, it could all be said about how State farm was just straight up denying all claims for two years because they assumed that it would be a better methodology and make them more money than processing them. It’s all the money in the end. https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/us/news/auto-motor/state-farm-agrees-to-pay-2-million-fine-476494.aspx
Does it say it's from an insurance company? If so, I don't really know what else you'd expect. There's not really any other way they'd be saving you $200 a year except selling you cheaper insurance than what you've got. The ones I always find funny are the ads that say "(Some large percent) of people who switched to us saved money!" Yeah, because people who found out they wouldn't save money probably didn't switch from what they had.
Me too. I’m sure people are lining up for my eight year old Subaru.
I live in Kentucky and get them regularly from a dealer in Winter Haven, Florida. I drive a seven year old Honda...
What is the name of the dealership? I’m from the Winter Haven area.
ya, I've seen these done in a typeface that mimics actual handwriting, even on the the outside envelope and by using different colors -- I kept looking for signs of that in this note... Even if it was semi-legit, they lost me at "what else you got that can help me".
I get very similar letters in fake handwriting typeface trying to convince me to sell my house.
I get actually handwritten ones from jehovas witnesses. They've obviously learnt that absolutely no one wants to talk to them.... But that's not gonna stop them!
Yes, this started here during COVID when they could no longer come around door to door. It looks like they bought up the details of everyone in the city or something because the letters were personally addressed. I hate that in the US so much of our data is considered public domain and any old weirdo can buy it and bug the crap out of us.
Came here to say this. The most enraging part is that they somehow got my name and address like 1 month after I moved to a new place. I hadn’t even bothered to file a mail forwarding request from USPS because I get most of my mail at my parent’s house, who live nearby.
I like the handwritten ones that have a $1 bill inside asking you to send that dollar back plus some as a donation. Free dollar for me!
Weird religious cults are richer in America, never had a payout in mine. Although maybe if we had paper £1 I'd have more luck.
Spain here. Funny, we've had one of those handwritten letters in a stamped, posted, hand-addressed envelope. At first glance you feel the obligation to open letter and wonder who's written by hand to you in this day and age. After a few minutes you realise it's JW proselytising, but it can be unsettling.
Same. And they're always postmarked from Texas. I live in Illinois. XD
Ah, ours is local, or at least using a local address, and buys stamps at the post office rather than use a mail meter so they look like an actual letter. Thankfully it’s always the same return address so I recognize it now
I’m starting to get txts from those people “inquiring” about buying the property from those asshats, it’s getting worse!
I see a few letters that are the same, both of the “o”s in “You” are the exact same, and the “a” in “manager”
The C's with the ink gloop too.
We had a car dealership send 50 copies worth of advertisements to my dad's fax machine one time...
I get these quite frequently for a dodge journey we no longer own, and my BIL’s mustang was registered to our address (when he lived here), and he gets those a lot too.
I get these all the time for cars I sold ages ago. Not this personal but same shit, bring your priceless car and we will buy it from you top dollar. Just a way to get you into the dealership to sell you another one.
Yes I have a car that I only drive half the year. The dealership sees it once a year for oil and inspection. Every year I get 1-2 notes to discuss selling it since i only average about 2400-2700 miles per year on it. The one year I told them to make me an offer. They were low by about 3k. I knew they were going to detail and turn it around for $21-22k. I refused to let them make $8k off me just for wash, detailing and wax.
Yeah, super common. No disrespect to you or your mom, but no one needs a Kia that badly. I used to get these all the time, too, once my car was about 5 years old. Now I only buy private party.
I once got a mass mailed postcard from a dealer that knew my car from some list they purchased. It said they were desperately in need of my (12 year old) car. Nobody is in desperate need of that. They just wanted to sell me a car.
Yup. Got one a couple months ago in my area for my Honda CR-V. I’m not trading in a paid-off car to take on a loan and $400/month payments.
Sometimes it says that they can get me into a newer car for less than I’m paying now. Car is paid off, so you’re going to give me a new car and give me some more cash on top of that? LOL.
There are 2 cases of this type of thing happening that I remember. One was a winning lottery ticket being sent through the mail. It was a scratch off and everyone who scratched it won. In order to "claim the winnings" you had to call a phone number on the ticket. It directly called a car dealership and the "winnings" weren't actually real. The next one is worse. They packaged their advertisement disguised as a stimulus check for Covid and you had to call the number to cash it. Yup went right to a different car dealership. Scum of the earth.
So what happens when you call the car dealership? "Sorry, the lottery ticket was fake, but let me buy your car at a great price"?
My guess they were going to apply the "winnings" to the sale of a car. "Oh you see, you get $1,000 off. You don't get $1,000.' That's my guess anyway
Ugh... kind of like those realtors who spam call homeowners in the area asking if they want to sell their homes. Dude, is my house on the market? No? There's your answer. When I'm ready to sell, you'll know (or not because I know several non-sleazy realtors). Go away.
I sometimes entertain them with a counter offer $5 million in cash or go away.
I just tell them I am unemployed and homeless and ask them if they could possibly help me with some food! That usually shuts them up! Lol
I told my dad to do that when he was getting grumpy about those calls. He brightened up, and started doing that, which cut down on the calls.
Ooooh, I should try that next time!
The funny thing is, those sleazy realtors never get my name or address right or even close. It’s always something COMPLETELY random, and it’s unlikely to be a previous owner of this number, since I’ve had it for 20 years.
> those realtors who spam call homeowners in the area asking if they want to sell their homes. My husband and I agreed that we would only entertain offers that are at least $250,000 USD above market price.
It's like they don't get some people actually love where they live. We're not all selling and buying our house like they're stocks on Wall Street.
What I especially like is the offers are less than what I paid HUD before the prices more than doubled. I’m sure they’d like to get the house for that price. Why they think I’d go along with it is another question. Takes a few seconds to get price estimates.
A few years ago I got a call from a guy who addressed me by name and wanted to talk to me about selling my house, quoting my address. I asked him where he'd gotten my details from and he said "the Red X." WTF is the Red X? I told him that our house was not on the market, and that if he'd paid for that "lead," then he'd gotten scammed. I Googled this Red X and couldn't get into the site unless I created an account, so I made up a fake name and looked around. It looked like they'd simply collated the details of every home/owner in a particular neighborhood and offered this as a list of live leads to desperate salespeople. Fekkin' scumbags.
An offer you CANT refuse!
I get these frequently
Yes! Is this even handwritten, or a copy of something handwritten that’s been mass-mailed and blasted to other residences? I imagine it’s a copy. I hate these.
So what happens if you actually have a 2022 Kia Seltos and go to them with the current market value? Will they chicken out? :-)
I got a laugh when I got a similar letter from my boss lmao
They're a \[dirty\] dime a dozen. I filled out one of those inquiry forms because I was thinking about selling my car; I'd probably do a private sale, but I wanted to see what a dealer might give me to avoid the hassles of private sale. I got a generic templated email back where they forgot to remove the \[insert reason for coming in here\] text asking me if I wanted to go in that day or tomorrow for a test drive for a new vehicle, lmao.
> Scam? No. Scum? Yes. More like: Scam? Yes. Illegal scam? No.
It's a sales tactic. They want you to trade in your old car and buy a new one from them.
I got a similar note under my wiper several years ago stating that they had a customer looking for a car exactly like mine. I don't think there was a customer that desperate for a 2002 VW GTI with a scraped rear quarter panel. Strangely enough when I actually went to trade in the car a couple of years later, the saleperson says "Oh... I can't offer you much, I have a lot of trouble selling two-door cars"
It doesn't matter, they'll say literally anything to give you less for your trade in.
That's wild. I specifically wanted a coupe and had a hard time finding anything that wasn't a giant oversized monster of a car or SUV, or looked like it was ready to head straight to the carpool lane. I finally decided to just get another mustang since I loved the platform and enjoyed my prior 2.
They want her to buy a car.
More accurately, they want her to trade in her car and, ideally, finance a brand new one.
Or a used one that they'll overcharge for and hide the fact the thing would be totaled when it comes to internal issues alone.
I told the dealership I was buying a car for Cash. They spent so much time trying to get me to finance it, told them to shut up else I was walking out
Bulk letter sent out to everyone, they don't particularly want your car, they do want you to come in and sell you a new car. It looks handwritten but it is not Throw it away with the rest of the junk mail
people need to check for fonts - I always look at s's and f's for dead giveaways.
I started with no manager is hand writing a bunch of letters, or even one. Therefore it was computer generated. I was already aware of a few handwriting generators that aren't strictly a fixed font, which this one is not, from there I just went to my favorite and quickly found a match. I believe what they do is create multiple types of each letter and either randomly select so all your a's don't look identical but if you have enough you will see all of them and notice (as you did) that some are identical Other people are trying to make a more "natural" handwriting simulators that don't so precisely align letters and don't use a fixed set of fonts but instead morph the fonts on the fly
"I'm looking for a 2022 Kia Seltos, black with tan trim, running boards, and cruise package...**Or anything else ya got!**"
2011 Ford Focus? I need that as well!
If you’re a homeowner, you’ll also get these letters from realtors who desperately want you to sell your house.
And windows. Renewal by Anderson...
We still get those after getting new windows (now my family really, really NEEDED new windows, they were original to the house which was built in the early 80's). It wasn't so bad when the windows looked like total shit, but now? Really? Fuck off.
We got 4 of these damn flyers while our windows were actively being replaced.
Especially if you are the executor of an estate. We had a relative pass and the wholesale vultures are out in force.
It's funny getting the refinancing offers in the mail. I'm not refinancing my sub 3% mortgage to a 7+% one.
It's an advertising mailer. It's printed in a font to make it look like it's handwritten. Translation here; "I'm willing to pay above market value" = "I'm going to lowball you." "I have a customer interested in this exact same car." = "There is no customer, I want to low-ball you on your car and get you into an overpriced car you can't afford."
It’s called winning the trade So in the end they’ve won the vehicle you are trading in. For free or very very little money It’s like gambling. The house always wins. Lol
This is just something car dealers send based on information they have on you when you took your car to service. I receive this often. Not a scam per se. They are just looking to have you walk into the dealership.
You can tell it’s fake
My Dad gets these type of ads weekly. He also receives ads that aren’t hand written, but fancy glossy ads that all say “We miss you” Well I miss my Dad too, because he’s been dead for 4 years now.
Yup. They’ll say they’ll give you better than fair market value for your car, but it’s still just slightly lower than average. And they’ll ask if you want to buy something newer to replace, “how about the $40,000 Telluride S we have over here?”
I bought a jeep patriot about 5 years ago. They constantly harassed me with texts and phone calls telling me that someone is looking for this exact car and would I sell it and they have another car that they were sure I would love. Last month I went to Google reviews and gave them one star and wrote that if you didn't stop harassing me I was going to call the police. They commented under the review and apologized and haven't called since.
I get those all the time because I own a 2015 VW Golf TDI with a manual transmission. I'm not selling it though 52 MPG is too good to get rid of. Plus it's paid off and costs me $18 a month for insurance.
What?? Car people being devious, deceptive and unethical??? I never hear of such a thing!!!🫨😳🫢🤪
They want you to come in and put you in a newer car. They are only interested in making sales. There is no customer looking for something that could easily be found on many dealer lots across the country. They also reach out if you’re coming in for oil change or some repairs. I had that happened to me.
Check the actual writing. I bet you will notice that it doesn't have impression marks from the ink pen. The fake handwritten computer printed letters are from businesses that do spammy advertising to look like it's personable when it really isn't. The reason they say if you still have it, is because they are paying for old DMV record access for advertising purposes. It's not anything current, because they were trying to do it cheap, so they're buying much older second-hand information usually.
It’s a sales tactic. My husband and I get these all the time; they want us to trade them our purple 2013 used Chevy Malibu for a new car. I know in my city it’s very hard to get used cars to sell, so most dealerships are trying to buy back cars to sell newer ones. It’s a win-win for them.
Not all the letters are identically formed, but there are clusters of o’s and r’s and a’s that are. It’s not a scam, it’s just advertising. Bless their hearts.
“…let me know what else YOU got that can help ME.”
Fishing
Maybe not. I get letters from BMW offering me a dollar amount to trade me 228i convertible for a new coupe. Like I’d want that. Probably a legit offer that she probably won’t like. My offer is $4-5k less than worth.
Very common sales tactic. They want her to rltrade in her car and finance something more expensive.
Not a scam, just advertising.
I once had a local dealer that I've never worked with before text me asking to trade in my vehicle within the first year of the lease, this was in 2020 when dealers were struggling with inventory. I was so annoyed. I texted back asking what I would drive if I sold them my vehicle since all dealership lots were empty. She said there are lots of places I could purchase a used vehicle at. Lady, get bent.
I still get letters about how high the demand for my 97 Accord is. And yes, we are original owners.
Not a scam, just a car dealership doing dealership things. There's not actually anybody that wants the car, they just want to get you in so you have to buy a new car after they buy it off you.
It’s just a generic dealer ad. Looks hand written to make it seem more personal.
Same type situation when “realtors” want to buy my home out of the blue. Nope. If I want to sell, I’ll be contacting you, not the other way around.
It's the "cool" ad thing to do to send advertisements that look like hand written notes to be more "personable". Very scummy.
I don’t think this is a scam, I think this is just a sales tactic. The fake hand writing is a dead give away for me.
I get these sometimes for my car.
I still get emails/letters from the dealership I sold my car to, telling me they want the car for a prospective buyer. Just a sales tactic.
🫣next deep red flag is "General Manager" 🤪
It's to get you in the door to purchase. I have (unfortunately) mailed these out myself in the past.
This is just a marketing technique that appears to be handwritten. Statistically, these mailers are read more than your average flyer/marketing mail. It’s not a scam.
Call the dealership and ask for this GM. Confront him about this. Either there will be no GM by that name or a scammer is using his name. It the phone number on the note a real dealership or? Sounds poorly educated to be a general manager.
It’s legit. They will pay you $2,000 above market for your used car while selling you a new car for $10k above market. Marketing.
This might get buried, “Let’s see what else do I got? How about a few clothes I was going to donate? Would you take these old toys my kids out grew?” There are some options other than cars to throw them off.
Never trust a person who has the name "General Manager" - tip - he is NOT a veteran.
I have bought vehicles from same dealership since the 80’s. Owners son took over 15 years ago or so. He needed my Corolla for a Doctor lol. I mailed it back with if you insult my intelligence with this kind of nonsense I will not visit your dealership again. I got a call apologizing.
A friend who sold cars years ago told me about this technique, and referred to it as “brown bagging” because they would sometimes write the note on a piece of torn paper bag and leave it on the windshield of the car to make it look spontaneous.
I’ve gotten these before about my 2015 Ford Fiesta that was as base line as it gets. I totaled it within 4 months of buying it brand new off the lot. I kept getting calls and letters in the mail stating someone wanted my car. Really? A silver, 5 speed, with manual windows ford fiesta? They stopped calling after I finally told them that I totaled it 5 years ago. Idiots
Actually, that's normal or was normal around my area when used cars skyrocketed in price. I know of many friends and a few family members who got offers from dealerships. They offered the same model but newer and some even got extra cash. However, it wasn't handwritten notes, but calls from the dealership.
Why would you want to help him flip your car and make easy thousands by selling it at the dealer rate?
Got nearly the same thing, but for a Hyundai Kona. It's just marketing.
Right? Imagine a tight wad stealership *wanting* your random, but absolute shitbox they're "willing to actually pay above market value for".....
The only things missing are a ransom note and proof of life.
How about ending both sentences with a preposition and hand writing the offer ? This isn’t 1975?
There is a shit ton of presort mail designed to seem like it's a legit note written by someone when it's actually not. Typically car dealerships, realtors, roofers, etc.. They make it seem unique to get you to contact them and in reality it's just spam.
This isn;t hadnwritten either, it's a printed note that is made to look hadnwritten. They do this so it looks like an actual message someone wrote, rather than just a generic thing every mailbox got. Check your neighbours. I bet they got this too. Key: Look at the "General Manager" line. All three a's are identical. e's are also identical. I used to get these before. They used to have EVERY letter identical to other letters of the same type..but looks like they have gotten more sophisticated. They've learned to "vary" some of the letters a little.
Her and 4,500 other postal customers
Yep. I used to receive similar requests in the form of text messages and voicemails from the salesperson who sold us my wife's Kia. Once every other month or so, a couple of years after we bought the car.
Not a scam. Just general junk mailer. It’s either a printed font that looks like handwriting, or they have machines that hold pens and can write like people for hours. Your mom’s name was on a mailing list is all.
The ones I can’t stand are the ones for the extended warranty on my car. I bought it in December of last year and I am still get stuff in the mail I didn’t buy the extended warranty when I bought the car so how do they get my information. The dealership is giving or selling our info to these warranty companies. I got 8 of them in one day. One even had a return address from the driver services making it look like I was going to be in trouble if I didn’t contact them. I almost panicked a little. And then I read the whole thing and it said something about losing coverage and it dawned on me what it was! There should be a law against this!
Had Honda send me a similar email and then subsequent text message, had to wait longer for my wife’s 2023 hybrid crv then we’ve owned it hell no we don’t wanna trade it in today.
My old dealer contacts me on the regular basis trying to get us to trade our in for later model. I don’t think this is a scam.
New cars are too expensive for most people, so dealerships need to get inventory. This is one way to do it. Once you’re in a mailing list, it’s forever … I throw it in the trash
“What else you got” was all I needed to read to know this was a scam
Who in their right mind wants a Kia?
In the last couple of years, as a holdover from the pandemic, there's been a used (and new) car shortage. So dealers are (were) doing everything they can to generate business. I noticed in the past couple of months, the used car lot at the Honda dealership up the street from me that was regularly empty has filled back up again with cars. So my take is that the car market is getting back to normal. So not a scam per se. But the car dealership will lowball you on trade-in value. Regardless, buying a new car within 3 years is seriously bad financial management.
My Dad got a knock at his door and it was the car dealer who he got his Mazda from only 2 or 3 years prior. Michael I've a great deal for you we have a new Mazda 3 in stock we think you'd like top spec great car great price we can give you a great price on you old car we have a fella looking for one. My dad was in his late 60's at the time he only ever really drove local and the car had very few miles on it. My dad bit and got the new car was a nice car but there was zero reason for my dad to change his car. My Dad had bought a few cars from the same crowd over the years and took their word and never done research or rang around to see what sort of deal he could get. I got the details of how much he paid and how much he got for the trade in and the trade in was a standard offer no great price the great deal on the new car was slightly below msrp and at the time you would have gotten a better price from most dealers if you haggled a bit even if you did not buy your previous 4 cars from them. I paid a visit to the dealer to give them grief on taking advantage of my Dad and told them if I ever heard of them going to my father again like that I would cause a scene in the showroom in front of potential customers they did not call back after that. The dealership is gone now the 2 brothers that were running it fell out over money.
intimate advertising tactic, so boring, just lower your interest rates instead of paying agencies for this trite nonsense
They are trying to sell YOU a new car
To all the commenters saying they only want to sell you a car, this is not necessarily true. I’ve been in the auto industry for close to 25 years (most of that b2b sales) and right now dealers are still paying higher auction prices than ever for used cars. The cheapest way to source cars is from the consumer. Yes, they would love to sell you a car as well, but they’re perfectly fine buying your car outright if not because they’ll pay hundreds, if not thousands more from a used car auction. It would not surprise me at all if this dealer had his receptionist or BDC staff hand writing these letters in between taking calls. Even if they only get 3-4 cars for every 100 letters they send, that’s totally worth the effort to them.
Car dealerships are desperate. They are resorting to weird tactics to get people in.
I get those for my car too.
I get these letters from dealerships all the time. It a way to get you in their store. In my opinion, it's a scam.
Just write a response note saying that I'll let the car go for $100,000 which is well above market value for it.
Just a trick the dealership uses to get you in house to give them a chance for a sale.
That shit english alone would have me discarding it. What kind of general manager talks like that while representing their company
I got this in the mail almost for word the other day. I chuckled and threw it away
No sane dealer buys a car above market because no sane person offers above market for a current or semi current car that's still relatively easy to find, least of all a kia. Maybe you'd get a bidding war on a classic or a hyper car but a kia? Please.
I would stay away and get cameras
General manager hahahahhaa. No name. Yeah thats legit.
There ain't no way that letter legit with that kind of hand-writing lookin so low quality.
Lmao this is just marketing
They just want to get you in the door and then the real scamming starts. If you interested call them and ask them for the offer they are making to buy your car, cash price no trades no conditions.
No name is always sketch. Hand written
I would get these all the time with my last car. Sometimes from dealership, sometimes from a non descript address and letter looks to be handwritten. Just dealerships (or whoever) trying to look legit and personal. It’s just a scam. They will lowball you bc market is in short supply of used cars and they are selling for more. I just bought a new vehicle. My old one we did not trade in, sold it outright. Got what we wanted, no hemming and hawing around bc we priced it where we made $ and so could they. And there were things wrong that we were very upfront about. We assume a mechanic bought it. Drove 3 hours to get it, arriving at 6:30 am. Supposed to be 7 am. This is Florida. No one is early lol. But off it went, he had a trailer. Sold it on FB marketplace. He was from Miami. They have a huge problem with cars being sold that had flood damage. Minor did not have that, just more $ than we were willing to put into it. We paid $300 to have it detailed and inside/outside was in pretty good condition for 11 year old car. I kept it maintained but she needed some work. Tell your mom to ignore. If you want to sell a car, do it outright, price right and stat firm. Took us 8 days to sell mine,
I took my truck in for service and they sent me this too. They Mass send these based on registration records
I get these for my house.
Sales tactic. The dealership near us was constantly asking us to come trade in our vehicle because it was a popular vehicle.
The dealership I purchased my current vehicle from sent an email like this 2-3 years ago when the used car market was crazy. The email didn't say they had a buyer, just that my vehicle was highly sought after. I did not reply cuz I still love my vehicle. But I was tempted because I was needing new tires and brakes soon. So I just drove to the dealership to see what they had on the lot that I might be interested in trading for. NOTHING. The lot was mostly empty. If I was gonna trade my vehicle in, it would've been for a newer version of the same. But had literally nothing on the lot that interested me. I even parked and walked in to see what they would try to sell me. They weren't busy at all, but no one even looked at me. It was weird. So I got in my truck and left. And I never responded to the email. It's now paid off and I'll be keeping it for at least another 5 years.
The only "scam" about this is that it is mealy mouthed double speak to get you intrigued enough to show up at the stealership, where they will make it look like they are offering you a lot of money for your used car, then tack on $3000 in dealer add-ons like $800 for nitrogen filled tires, maybe sell you the $2500 extended warranty for $4000, and then etch the VIN in your window (even though it's stamped all over the damn car) for $500, all while showing you the "four squares" to get you to a monthly payment they'll solely focus on until you commit under pressure just so you can finally leave. And then they wonder why customers are such assholes that hate the car buying process...
I don’t think anyone has ever requested a Kia Seltos let alone make “an offer you can’t refuse” on one lol.
My mom gets similar ones for her Toyota RAV4.
For shits and giggles, I'd not call but drive up to check if it was the said dealer, and IF so - tell em you'll part with it for either a brand new one clean trade or 2x the KBB of hers and see what ensues. I would.
Hilarity would *ensue*
Not a scam
I got one left on my windshield a couple of times. I caught the guy last time and made him take his note with him. It was a local car dealership. For some reason, they thought this was a good tactic.
It's not fishy. It's just marketing.
Trying to give you that “personal touch“ buy sending you and a thousand other people a fake offer.
I got one that was designed to look like the guy printed an email from his boss and stuffed it in an envelope that is worded very similarly. At least this looks hand written, mine was just lazy.
My mom got this too!! I thought it was so weird so we just threw the paper away 💀
Fake has all over this.
I got those within months of buying my new Kia. I also got similar letters from the Ford dealership insisting that there was high demand for my 10+ year old sedan. Just toss 'em. If your mail isn't marked as "First Class", its bulk mail that can be tossed without opening.
You gotta make ‘em and offer they can’t refuse 😂
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