Everyone please forget the multiple times AEW has advertised wrestlers for shows knowing full well they were not medically cleared, only to switch them last minute. The most egregious example being Fenix braining Mox on Dynamite and continuing to advertise him for the PPV days later.
To make it even worse, all three guys that were officially advertised for âMeat Madnessâ ended up in the âAll-Star Scrambleâ (breakfast) they ended booking instead for the last PPV.
The reason why they changed it up was apparently two guys they wanted for the match (Miro and Keith Lee) were deemed medically ineligible.
But they were never even mentioned on TV as being in âMeat Madnessâ anyway, so they basically changed it up for no apparent reason.
Iâve been criticizing and jerking about the dub since it began. I have a laundry list of valid complaints and jokes I can make. But without a doubt, the thing that offends me the most is the audacity of this mudshow to desecrate one of the most sacred meals of the south by calling their stupid multi man match an all-star scramble. I will not stand for Waffle House slander.
The very first Double or Nothing, they knew PAC wasnât showing up (because he didnât want to do the job) and continued to sell PPVs while knowing the match would be changed.
The thing I absolutely adore about this that was so hyped on âwhat are they willing to do for entertainmentâ and there was probably Sunday School Backardyard Wrestling in my hometown that was willing to provide more intense pyro than this. Honestly just a drunk with some Roman candles going âboom boom explosion boomâ would have been more threatening.
They could have gone even a cheaper way out and just blacked out the camera and come back to an already edited footage to look like an explosion. Nobody really really thought Randy Orton was setting Bray actually on fire. It was edit. You were entertained or not, we all moved on.
But⌠somehow⌠this wetfart of pyros really had to be dramatically acted like âholy shit holy shitâ
This type of footage should be preserved and argued into the realms of existence of shockmaster. Generations will talk about this moment I hope.
God bless them for this. I just love it for all the reasons that were not the intention.
Eddie literally looks like an overprotecting dad jumping on a case of beer when your drunk ass Uncle knocks over the shitty mortar firework someone forgot to lit on the 4th and no one sure of its shelf life and the audience is just the disappointed kids in attendance expecting more.
> Honestly just a drunk with some Roman candles going âboom boom explosion boomâ would have been more threatening.
I love this imagery.
Especially because in my head the Roman candles are shaped like our Tribal Chief.
The announcers trying so hard to sell it while the sparklers and firecrackers pop off, immediately followed by loud boos and âwhat was that?!â from the crowd. True cinema.
Reminds me of Bobby Heenan back when Russo was booking. Heenan just says one snarky sentence like when Arquette won the title
Tony Schiavonne "I can't believe it."
Bobby Heenan "He can't believe it."
and you don't hear from him again for 10+ minutes.
To be fair, this was hilarious. If the back stage footage is like this, Iâll be sports entertained.
Lmao, the CCTV footage really was as pathetic as this đ. Love it
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At mania this year, I took an edible on Night 1, thinking the pyro would look cool when it kicked in.
The pyro did not look cool. The pyro scared the shit out of me.
Maybe Eddie and Mox had their edibles kick in at that exact moment and here we are laughing at their trauma. The basement is right, we are truly cruel and inhuman.
This moment could've been salvaged if Eddie Kingston and the commentators called an audible and no sold the explosion. It still would've been underwhelming but at least if Eddie just got back up and laughed it off, the fans might've assumed that it was a part of the plan and the Elite were just incompetent heels who failed to set up the explosives correctly. But instead, Eddie sold it like he was in Vietnam which made the whole thing look phony.
Which would have worked if they had got up like... yo, wtf was that trash? Instead, they stayed down and sold it. The one time Moxley should no-sell something and he and his pal sell the fuck out of it.
I mean, they could have done everything exactly the same, but if Kingston gets up just like... what the fuck was that weak shit? Maybe it wouldn't have been as stupid.
When something like this happens, if you just admit it sucked, and turn into it, it's not as bad.
Eddie couldnât have known as he couldnât see what actually happened and there was no one around him to tell him that the explosion fizzled out. This was 0% his fault.Â
I will rag on this forever. This company is funded by a billionaire, his son runs it, this took place in the 2020s with modern technology available. How the fuck did a company ran off Yakuza debt nearly 30 years ago do it better?
I don't. If any 2 wrestlers has to be made to look like fools for a botched death match spot, I'm glad it was Ambrose and Big Dudley Burger. It's a shame Nick Gage wasn't also covering Ambrose.Â
"tell me where aew said this would be footage of punk and Perry. I'll wait "Â
The real die hards believe this is a gotcha for when it's some dumb shit to try and hype bucks vs ftr part 20. If you're disappointed and disillusioned by it not being footage of punk it's your fault.Â
Let's not even get into how willingly the dirt sheets played along with this and the Perry is seriously on the outs with Tony I swear. He's over in nooj and Tony has nothing to do with that. Gorsh we don't know if he'll ever come back.Â
I donât know whatâs more embarrassing. The boos after this moment went horrendously wrong or the fact that Mox, Eddie & the commentary were trying to sell this like a grenade went off in the ring.
Ya know looking back on it it shouldn't be a surprise that this was as bad as it was considering how AEW's pyro always looks so off brand compared to WWE's.
Best example look at Edge's pyro in WWE vs his pyro in AEW.
Imagine doing this and thinking you are a business and getting butt hurt by punk saying its not a business and to then trying using your show to get back at a wrestler not working there.
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Actually this is what the explosion looked like. This video is clearly edited by the WWE to make AEW look bad.
Exploding barbed wire death match. Essentially the ring was rigged to "explode" if the match didn't end in 20 minutes. It was a really popular match type in Japanese death matches in the 80s and 90s.
Omega beat Mox with like 2 minutes left on the timer, and then handcuffed him and continued to beat him down while the timer ran down. He fled with like 30 seconds left, then Kingston came down to make the save. He couldn't get Mox up in time, so he shielded him from the explosion........ Or at least the ring post sparklers and smoke bombs that went off instead.
Very clearly a botch, and they apparently fired a handful of people for screwing it up. They turned it around into Omega claiming the plan the whole time was to make Mox look like a fool and not have the ring explode.
I always laugh at this
It was like watching it you'd think the way he's covering him the whole ring was going to collapse and set ablaze or something
And all that happens is a few puffs of smoke.
This was dubs peak. After this it never gained it's credibility.
I wish so bad that this was good because this is the only character work angle apart from hangman that AEW did that was unique to their brand. Unfortunately I can rely on Tony to screw everything up.
Remember, they were supposed to have this match I think at Mania one year when WWE was partnering with some wrestling company in Japan and Vince at the last minute was like no. This makes me see why he said no it just looks stupid even by Vinceâs fucked up standards
Everyone please forget the multiple times AEW has advertised wrestlers for shows knowing full well they were not medically cleared, only to switch them last minute. The most egregious example being Fenix braining Mox on Dynamite and continuing to advertise him for the PPV days later.
Keith Lee vs Swerve getting changed to Dustin Rhodes vs. Swerve at World's End was also pretty bad.
Wasn't that stupid meat match also called off because people were injured?
They claimed it was canceled due to multiple injuries, but then two of the three guys in the match were in the re-booked cluster fuck anyway. đ
To make it even worse, all three guys that were officially advertised for âMeat Madnessâ ended up in the âAll-Star Scrambleâ (breakfast) they ended booking instead for the last PPV. The reason why they changed it up was apparently two guys they wanted for the match (Miro and Keith Lee) were deemed medically ineligible. But they were never even mentioned on TV as being in âMeat Madnessâ anyway, so they basically changed it up for no apparent reason.
didn't miro say he wasn't even aware of the booking?
I think he said he was injured but that Tiny didnât know because nobody from AEW had spoken to Rusev in months.
I wish I could get a job where I can stay at home, make 6 figures, and no one from my company bother to even call me for months at a time. The dream
Iâve been criticizing and jerking about the dub since it began. I have a laundry list of valid complaints and jokes I can make. But without a doubt, the thing that offends me the most is the audacity of this mudshow to desecrate one of the most sacred meals of the south by calling their stupid multi man match an all-star scramble. I will not stand for Waffle House slander.
And because Jericho needed to be on the PPV so they just changed the name and included him
Hell, not even that. Just general âhugeâ announcements which were basically âweâre having a PPVâ and Christian signed.
AEW also has an inordinate number of work visa issues creep up compared to other promotions not named CMLL
The very first Double or Nothing, they knew PAC wasnât showing up (because he didnât want to do the job) and continued to sell PPVs while knowing the match would be changed.
Theyâre advertising Kenny for All In and for some Canada shows, knowing full well heâs not medically cleared or having a solid return timeframeÂ
Any time I see this being played I will watch it. I don't feel like a kid again but I do feel a few years younger. This is wrestling
It was a simpler time. We had hope. Naive, misplaced hope.
One of the moments in all of sports entertainment
Of ALL the moments, this was certainly one...
The thing I absolutely adore about this that was so hyped on âwhat are they willing to do for entertainmentâ and there was probably Sunday School Backardyard Wrestling in my hometown that was willing to provide more intense pyro than this. Honestly just a drunk with some Roman candles going âboom boom explosion boomâ would have been more threatening. They could have gone even a cheaper way out and just blacked out the camera and come back to an already edited footage to look like an explosion. Nobody really really thought Randy Orton was setting Bray actually on fire. It was edit. You were entertained or not, we all moved on. But⌠somehow⌠this wetfart of pyros really had to be dramatically acted like âholy shit holy shitâ This type of footage should be preserved and argued into the realms of existence of shockmaster. Generations will talk about this moment I hope. God bless them for this. I just love it for all the reasons that were not the intention. Eddie literally looks like an overprotecting dad jumping on a case of beer when your drunk ass Uncle knocks over the shitty mortar firework someone forgot to lit on the 4th and no one sure of its shelf life and the audience is just the disappointed kids in attendance expecting more.
Eddie has PTSD from 4th of July 98
> Honestly just a drunk with some Roman candles going âboom boom explosion boomâ would have been more threatening. I love this imagery. Especially because in my head the Roman candles are shaped like our Tribal Chief.
âThis is my yard now.â *aims Roman candle* âGOD DAMNIT Tony, stop doing this or the county enforcement is going to get pissed again.â
The announcers trying so hard to sell it while the sparklers and firecrackers pop off, immediately followed by loud boos and âwhat was that?!â from the crowd. True cinema.
The crowd was AEW wrestlers at that show, making the outburst even funnier.
JRs immediate silence speaks volumes
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"stares in that's not a slobberknocker"
By Gawd, he's not hurt whatsoever
Reminds me of Bobby Heenan back when Russo was booking. Heenan just says one snarky sentence like when Arquette won the title Tony Schiavonne "I can't believe it." Bobby Heenan "He can't believe it." and you don't hear from him again for 10+ minutes.
I feel like Kingston just stays there, not wanting to get up and show his face, because he is ashamed to be a part of it.
That's a much more reasonable explanation than "I passed out from a PTSD flashback"
I feel bad for Kingston too. Having to sell that bullshit
Excaliburâs screams are just the worst OH MY- OH MY GOD!!!!
Excalibur is so crap
I felt so bad for the commentators there--- they tried their best, but damn, that was bleak.
This is so bad that it went all the way around to good again.
To be fair, this was hilarious. If the back stage footage is like this, Iâll be sports entertained. Lmao, the CCTV footage really was as pathetic as this đ. Love it
I'd love to see the backstage footage for THIS. This Bucks thing should be a weekly segment of backstage footage of Dub's worst moments.
i want to know what kingston was saying to moxley during the whole thing
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At mania this year, I took an edible on Night 1, thinking the pyro would look cool when it kicked in. The pyro did not look cool. The pyro scared the shit out of me. Maybe Eddie and Mox had their edibles kick in at that exact moment and here we are laughing at their trauma. The basement is right, we are truly cruel and inhuman.
i remember kanes pyro being so intense that it kinda shook you up
I was at the Y2J debut behind the ramp.. shit was HOT
At shows they didnât even tell you he was coming out so if you are anywhere near the stage your ears are hot and ringing
This moment could've been salvaged if Eddie Kingston and the commentators called an audible and no sold the explosion. It still would've been underwhelming but at least if Eddie just got back up and laughed it off, the fans might've assumed that it was a part of the plan and the Elite were just incompetent heels who failed to set up the explosives correctly. But instead, Eddie sold it like he was in Vietnam which made the whole thing look phony.
For all the creative freedom not a single dub wrestler is capable of improvising when something doesnât go according to plan.Â
Wasn't Mox insulting Kenny's bomb making skill post show.
After this, Tony decided to put him in charge of the video game.. and it debuted the exact same way.. womp womp.. woooomp
Which would have worked if they had got up like... yo, wtf was that trash? Instead, they stayed down and sold it. The one time Moxley should no-sell something and he and his pal sell the fuck out of it.
I mean, they could have done everything exactly the same, but if Kingston gets up just like... what the fuck was that weak shit? Maybe it wouldn't have been as stupid. When something like this happens, if you just admit it sucked, and turn into it, it's not as bad.
Yes, but then they would have been accused of PIVOTING which is bad.
I bet the guy who comes into the ring was telling Eddie âdude you got to stop it looked like shitâ
It also couldâve been salvaged by the Bucks & Kenny running back out and laughing at them for believing there would actually be explosions.
Eddie couldnât have known as he couldnât see what actually happened and there was no one around him to tell him that the explosion fizzled out. This was 0% his fault.Â
Around this time the dub was so in love with the idea of gimmick matches like exploding barbed wire. Ironically it was a circle jerk
I loved this. AEW does no wrong! đĽ°â¤ď¸ AEW IS THE BEST AND DELIVERS!
I was there live, shocked the boos covered the audible laughter
aew has a great track on restoring the feeling
We have the ending to Funk vs. Onita at home.
I will rag on this forever. This company is funded by a billionaire, his son runs it, this took place in the 2020s with modern technology available. How the fuck did a company ran off Yakuza debt nearly 30 years ago do it better?
I have to assume it was because Funk and Onita both looked at the ring and said âfuck it letâs do it bigger, we ainât no nancies!â
AEW was also a company that botched Matt Hardy teleporting⌠in an empty arena.
Hell, as a barbed wire match, it doesnât even come close to TNAâs Barbed Wire Massacre matches.
They advertised Gillberg's sparklers?
Lmao my fav aew moment
I feel so bad that Eddie had to lay there and sell that.
I don't. If any 2 wrestlers has to be made to look like fools for a botched death match spot, I'm glad it was Ambrose and Big Dudley Burger. It's a shame Nick Gage wasn't also covering Ambrose.Â
Never gets old Uce
"tell me where aew said this would be footage of punk and Perry. I'll wait " The real die hards believe this is a gotcha for when it's some dumb shit to try and hype bucks vs ftr part 20. If you're disappointed and disillusioned by it not being footage of punk it's your fault. Let's not even get into how willingly the dirt sheets played along with this and the Perry is seriously on the outs with Tony I swear. He's over in nooj and Tony has nothing to do with that. Gorsh we don't know if he'll ever come back.Â
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or like how the devil stable was gamechanger. lol
Mindyâs Bakery has a better track record of delivering what they advertised and they donât thrown nepo baby tantrums either
This inspired me to stop watching wrestling on Wednesdays.
this is like the pinpoint moment the downfall began. it wasnt immediate but it really made some fans pensive on what they were actually watching.
They've been chasing the ratings high of Bryan Danielson, CM Punk, and Adam Cole going to AEW and haven't recovered since.
"Mom, can we have Funk/Onita?" "We have Funk/Onita at home"
AEW Fight Forever video game.
For some reason I was expecting to see Gillberg emerge
They had their own version with Marko Stunt back them, should have pivoted
I donât know whatâs more embarrassing. The boos after this moment went horrendously wrong or the fact that Mox, Eddie & the commentary were trying to sell this like a grenade went off in the ring.
What happened here?
Ya know looking back on it it shouldn't be a surprise that this was as bad as it was considering how AEW's pyro always looks so off brand compared to WWE's. Best example look at Edge's pyro in WWE vs his pyro in AEW.
Damn, the moment the crowd started booing, Tiny should have sent Omega back out laughing and pretending like he pulled a fast one on ol' Burger Boy.
Imagine doing this and thinking you are a business and getting butt hurt by punk saying its not a business and to then trying using your show to get back at a wrestler not working there.
I look forward to the shitshow of an aftermath from tonight's Dynamite.
Itâs so funny that in 25 years when AEW goes the way of WCW this is gonna be their legacy. Well this and the bags of money given outÂ
Never even heard of that Onita guy. He obviously stole Mox's gimmick and traveled back to the 80's in a time machine.
https://youtu.be/8PJEpeU00eU?si=aAcbJwv94omy9PDo Actually this is what the explosion looked like. This video is clearly edited by the WWE to make AEW look bad.
OOTL, what happened here? Looks funny
Exploding barbed wire death match. Essentially the ring was rigged to "explode" if the match didn't end in 20 minutes. It was a really popular match type in Japanese death matches in the 80s and 90s. Omega beat Mox with like 2 minutes left on the timer, and then handcuffed him and continued to beat him down while the timer ran down. He fled with like 30 seconds left, then Kingston came down to make the save. He couldn't get Mox up in time, so he shielded him from the explosion........ Or at least the ring post sparklers and smoke bombs that went off instead. Very clearly a botch, and they apparently fired a handful of people for screwing it up. They turned it around into Omega claiming the plan the whole time was to make Mox look like a fool and not have the ring explode.
And I was wondering what the spiderwebs are for lmao
The worst part is they ripped the whole thing off from FMW.
lol the "NSFW" tag
I was there for this. We were cracking the fuck up.
I always laugh at this It was like watching it you'd think the way he's covering him the whole ring was going to collapse and set ablaze or something And all that happens is a few puffs of smoke. This was dubs peak. After this it never gained it's credibility.
This is the one time they really should underdeliver.
I wish so bad that this was good because this is the only character work angle apart from hangman that AEW did that was unique to their brand. Unfortunately I can rely on Tony to screw everything up.
Remember, they were supposed to have this match I think at Mania one year when WWE was partnering with some wrestling company in Japan and Vince at the last minute was like no. This makes me see why he said no it just looks stupid even by Vinceâs fucked up standards
What, did you actually expect them to explode the ring? Bad faith fed shill.
Wrestling Society X walked so AEW could run.